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1. Introduction: [MUSIC] Hey guys, I'm Parv. This is a really great time
in history for filmmakers. The traditional models
of making film in TV have been turned upside
down in the last decade. As well as that the
tools of the trade, the cameras and software and all that jazz have
become so accessible and cheap in comparison
to what they used to be when I was first
getting into media. As a result, being able to make great content that's
worthy of being on a television screen is no
longer just the domain of big production companies
or television networks. Anyone can do it now, the traditional gatekeepers
no longer hold a monopoly. On top of that, there's so
many new outlets for content. There's all the TV networks
all over the world, plus all the video on demand
services like Amazon Prime, Disney Plus, Netflix, and there's more all the time. These places are hungry for
content and they don't care where it comes from as
long as it's good content. Now if you're a filmmaker
who feels like you've got an awesome project in
there waiting to get out, then this is the course for you. Just because anyone can do it these days doesn't
mean it's it easy and it can be
tricky to know what the actual steps are to
getting something on it. That's why I've
made this course. But what are my
qualifications to be making a course like this? Why should you listen to me? Well, I'll tell you a
bit about my story. A few years ago, a mate of mine hit me up and said, "Hey, let's quit our jobs and go on a six-month road trip across the USA and let's try and make a TV show about it."
I wanted it in. At the time I wasn't feeling
fulfilled as a filmmaker. I had been working in TV and
media for about five years. I was getting stuck
in a loop freelancing for different networks
and advertising agencies, making lots of
uninspiring content. I was getting a bit
jaded with the industry. I really felt like I
could make something cool if someone just
gave me the chance. But I felt like no one
was giving me the chance. Plus at the time I still thought that before you can
make a TV show, you had to be a
big shot director that had worked in the
business for ages. Maybe one won a few
Film Festival Award. I thought you had
to be working for a big production
company or TV network. I didn't fit into any
of those categories. I was decent using a camera, but by no means a
higher professional. I felt I had pretty
solid editing skills, but really I felt my
best skill was I had a good attitude
and a strong will to make some awesome content. But making my own TV show which is me and a
couple of mates, that was going to
be a huge leap. We had no idea of what
the process looked like. We knew how to film
and edit stuff. The packaging it up into
a TV show and selling it, not really our bag. We decided to take
the plunge anyway. There was no way I could've predicted where that
journey took me. We ended up making that TV show. It was a six part travel
documentary series called Unplanned
America. Guess what? We ended up selling it. Then it ended up on a bunch of channels here in Australia, as well as Netflix
internationally, Amazon Prime, and a bunch of other broadcasters
all over the world. Were even ended up on the front page of VICE
magazine for our efforts. After the success of
the first season, Netflix and Australian
broadcaster, SBS, teamed up to fund two
more seasons of the show. We basically spent
the next few years living the dream as we traveled around the USA making our own travel
documentary series. I went from being a
filmmaker that was only getting hired
to make shot on inspiring videos to a guy who was now getting
paid to produce, direct, and edit
his own TV series with a crew of his friends. Pretty big career jump. Now look, I'm not saying we made the best show of all time. In fact, that first
season was dodgy, but that dodgy
little show took us places that I'm really proud of. We barely had enough money
to keep ourselves alive and we had a video camera
and some basic equipment. We made heaps of mistakes
and learned a lot, and I'm going to share
that stuff with you. I'm going to take you right
through our journey from beginning to end and tell you all the stuff I wish
I had known before we started from pre-production and the equipment you're
going to need, to crowdfunding tips, to methods of filming
and interviewing, to post-production techniques,
and walking you through how we sold the show
and got distribution. I'll tell you about the
kinds of deliverables networks you'll expect
when you deliver a show, as well as the annoying
legal forms and documents you might
need along the way. I'm also going to cover some of the psychological aspects of undertaking your
passion project. I wish I had someone to tell me all this stuff when we did it. We really bungled our way
through this process. But what's great about that is you get to learn
from my mistakes. I'm really stocked to
share this stuff with you. If you're ready to take your filmmaking dreams
to the next level, then this is a place for you. C'mon you scallywags.
2. Mission Statement: [MUSIC] Let's talk mission statement. The approach I'm imparting
through this course, the approach that I believe
has the best chance for you selling your content to
a television network or video-on-demand service
is the approach where you make the content yourself and then sell a finished product
to these outlets. This is the approach I've
come to believe in after our outcomes with our
show Unplanned America, our subsequent projects
that I've worked on or collaborated
with since then. The traditional way of
making a TV show was this. You'd be a well-known
production company or a director or producer with an impressive resume and years and years of experience
under your belt. These people or
companies approach the TV network or Netflix or
whichever broadcast and say, hey, I've got a great idea for a show give us lots
of money to make it, and the broadcaster says, sure, that's a great idea and
we trust you to make it because you're a well-known
production company or director with a great resume and years and years of
experience under your belt. You see the risk at this and fair enough they're
not going to give you heaps of money and
trust you to make a show if you're a
nobody in the industry. I was a big-time nobody
so were my mates. Sure we were competent
content creators, but no heads of any
production companies or TV networks knew our names. Our chances of convincing
any broadcasters to give us money to make our dream
show was close to nil. Here's the thing, you
got to do what we did. You've got to make
the thing yourself and then show them
the finished product. They're not going to trust
you with their money to make something
awesome because they don't know who the
**** you are and they get hit up by
people all the time. But if you show up with
something already made, all they have to do is watch
it and if they like it, boom, it's a low risk. You've already done
all the hard work. It's way more likely for
them to buy it off you at the tail end than
at the front end. Then once you've
done it this way, it's a lot more likely
for broadcasters to trust you to make
shows for them, because you'll have a
credit to your name. After our first
season was a success, Netflix and SPS gave
us the money to make our next two seasons and they barely even checked up on us. They just set a date
for when they wanted the thing delivered
and waited the rest. They trusted us because
they had seen the proof. We had proved ourselves. This course is about
making this thing yourself and trusting
that you can. I believe that's the best
chance for getting it on air. It may not be the same
format as our show. It may be a one-hour
film about love. It might be a four-part series
about hermaphrodite frogs, whatever it doesn't matter. From doing this course,
you're going to get an understanding of
how to make a show yourself and the kinds
of processes it's going to take to get it
across the finishing line. Now your journey is going to be totally different
to our journey. But by learning
about our journey, you're going to
know way more than we did when we set off. Let's do it. Let's get
your show made and sold.
3. Pre-Production: Finding Your Drive and Passion: [MUSIC] What was driving me and what was I
passionate about? These are two things you
should probably ask yourself before you decide to embark
on a project like this. What was driving me? Well, I had wanted
to be a filmmaker and I got into it in
my early 20s with these great dreams of making awesome content and that
would really touch people. That by making this content, I would unlock a lifestyle
where I was earning money making staff that
I was really proud of. Fast-forward, 6-7 years and
I was feeling pretty stuck. I was getting paid, yes, I had ticked that box, but I was making content that
I wasn't really that into. I was doing it over
and over again. I wasn't feeling very
inspired by it or challenged by it and I was
feeling pretty gray inside. When Gonzo hit me up with
his idea of making a show, I felt that drive come back. I wanted to make stuff
that I was proud of and I wanted to
unlock a lifestyle where I was earning money
making stuff that was actually fulfilling to me
and that actually mattered. That was my drive. That was my motivation. What type of show would we make? Well, that's where
the passion comes in. If you're going to take a risk and try and make your own show, it's got to be something that
you're passionate about. It's going to be a long process so you need that passion
to keep you going. Otherwise, you'll probably
going to fizzle out halfway because this thing is going to take a lot of time, energy, probably a
bunch of your money. You might not be
heading off and making a travel show for six
months like we did, you might just be doing this on weekends or whenever you've
got some spare time. But the point is, you're going to be
dragging yourself away from your couch, away for your biz, away from your Dobby, away from your Netflix and you're going to be putting
effort into this thing. You're going to need to find the right motivation
and you're going to need to have some
passion for it. Otherwise, the Dobby, and the biz, and the Netflix,
they're going to win. You see, Gonzo was
passionate about the USA and road tripping. I was passionate about
traveling outside of the normal tourist destinations and I loved weird sub coaches. Boom, we decided to combine these two passions and the rough premise of
the show was born. A road trip documentary in the USA where we
quit our jobs and go on this adventure
to weird places and hangout with strange
sub coaches. It was pretty exiting. Also remember when you're
considering concepts, that a show that talks to people's dreams is
very marketable. Our show was a road
trip documentary, yes, that was the content, but the premise of the show that we quit our
jobs and went on this adventure that talks to a lot of people stuck
in the daily grind. That was something that really
appealed to our viewers. Also consider that when you're
coming up with a premise. You don't need to look too far
to do the market research. What are your dreams? What were your dreams? That's a pretty good
place to start. Figure out why you
want to do this thing. Try and be really
honest with yourself and figure out what's
motivating you. Figure out what you're
really passionate about. Is it food, travel, diving, ballet, drugs, drugs and ballet? Whatever it is, figure it out and make
this project about that. If you're working
with other people, try and find a compromise
so that you're making something that you're
all passionate about. Otherwise, the
others will probably fall away once things get tough. Remember, a show the talks to people's dreams is going to be easier to sell down the track.
4. Pre-Production: Finding Your Team: [MUSIC] There's a good chance that you can't do
this all yourself, I definitely would not
have been able to. Your team is out
there, trust me. Most filmmakers got into
this industry to make some awesome film or show
that they're proud of, and most filmmakers
are making a heap of **** for someone else that
they're not proud of. They're just waiting for
the right motivator or project to come up and
light them up inside. You've got to start
talking to people and posting on Facebook
group for filmmakers. Start putting
yourself out there. Start making your
intentions known. Maybe the first 30 people you talk to won't be interested, but eventually you'll
get some buds. Try and find people that
compliment your skillset. If you're not a good editor, try and find a
passionate editor. If you don't want
to use a camera, find someone who's
passionate about it. Try and find the smallest
viable team that you think you might need to try
and get this project done. The more people involved, the more difficult it
gets to try and line up schedules and all that crap. Scope each other out, have a few coffees, do you like their vibe? Good. You got to really like the vibe
of the people you're working with because
this is going to be a real journey that
you're going to go on. You're going to have ups
and downs, and arguments, and all stuff, so it's good if you dig their
vibe from the beginning. Now, just remember, if you're involving
people in this project then you've got to
properly involve them. It's time to start
letting go of some of those control freak
tendencies of yours. This is all of your project now, everyone's voice is valid, and you've got to make
them feel that way. You need to value their
input and opinion, and you need to actually
take it on sometimes. It can't just be my
way or the highway, or you're going to
find people will start dropping off
really quickly. This is a collaboration, and that means that
this project is a mix of everyone's
creative output, not just yours, so
find people who you respect and who you're happy to share your
creative output with. Compliment people. The best way to
keep morale up in a team is to compliment people, but not with ****** fake
compliments that aren't real. Find real things about
the person that you find awesome and respect
and let them know. Like, did they film something in a particularly
great way that day? Did you like the way they
edited a particular section? Whatever it is, people can sniff out if you're being fake, but if you find things
that are genuinely cool about them
and let them know, they'll really light up, and the project will really benefit if you have a bunch of people working on it that are feeling good about themselves. It feels good to hand out
compliments, give it a go. Let's try this together, Perv, you are a bloody legend.
Didn't that feel good? I had an interview with Hollywood writer and
director Judd Apatow, and he said that if
you're going to do a project that involves people, then you might want
to ask yourself if you're a good
person to be around, and if not, then you might
want to change that first. Obviously we're not perfect, but if you're a grumpy
***** all the time, maybe try and sort that out. If you always think you're right and other
people are wrong, then time to look at that. If you think you're better than everyone else, well, guess what? You're not, so time to get
that through your head. If you never say sorry, well start practicing mate. There's nothing worse
than someone who won't take responsibility
for their actions. You going to make heaps of
mistakes during this project. You're going to mess up and sometimes you're going
to do wrong by others. If you say sorry when
it's your fault and don't be stubborn ***** as
much as you can help it, then you and your
team might just work. Just remember, it all
comes back to you. Don't blame externally,
look internally. That's where you got
to make the changes. [MUSIC] To find a team, you need to start putting
yourself out there. Make your intentions known to more than just your
best mate and your mom. If you're going to let other
people into the project, make sure you respect them
and treat them with respect. This is a collaboration
between all of you, so make sure everyone's input is being valued and
considered equally. Compliment people, this will do wonders for the
morale of the project, but find genuine staff to
complement them about, otherwise it'll just
come across fake. Take a look at yourself. If you're going to be working
with people then make sure you're a decent
person to be around, and if not, then
work on that first. [MUSIC]
5. Pre-Production: Psychological Tips: [MUSIC] Look, this thing is probably
going to take a long time. It's going to be a
lot of hard work and that's what's going
to make it feel great when you get to the end, whatever happens with it. But there's going to
be some tricky times. My biggest hurdle through the whole project was really me, my own mind, my own
fears and doubts and insecurities, my
imposter syndrome. I was constantly
getting that voice in my head telling me that
I wasn't good enough, that I was a poser, that I had no right to be
thrown down with a big dogs who made television shows, the
legitimate filmmakers. I doubted myself constantly. I had so much fear and you
know what, I still do it. I've come to realize that these
things might not go away. They actually might
be with me for life. But the huge lesson that I learn making this
show is that they're just opinions that
are a partly for throwing out there and
you don't have to listen. Almost every day that
I made that show, I had that voice pop up from time to time telling
me that I should quit. But I kept going regardless. I pushed through and
I kept showing up and putting in the effort
day after day. In the end, it worked out, even though that voice
told me it wouldn't, even though it told
me over and over again that I would fail
and that I was a loser, it all worked out fine. Because of that, and
I saw that things worked out even though
it told me those things, I realized it was just
giving me an opinion. It's not the truth,
it's just an opinion. It was up to me
whether I wanted to listen while I wanted to act
from that place of fear. I still get that voice. Even writing this course, it was saying, these
course is **** man. Why would anyone want
to listen to you man. There are more
experienced filmmakers than you out there man. But these days are
more likely to ignore it because I
remember it's ******** from every project
I've ever done and how despite its
inlining opinion, things usually turn
out just fine. Really I think one of the
biggest keys to doing a project like this is to realize the voice is just
offering you an opinion. It's an opinion that's
very convincing some and has some
great arguments. But at the end of the day, it's a fee-based opinion
and it's not the truth. Something else to
remember is that a project like this
can be very heady, isn't to say, lots of thinking. I found that I was starting
to get a little obsessed with the project and it was becoming a bit all consuming in my life. I was starting to notice in my anxiety was getting
a bit jacked up and sometimes I wouldn't be
able to sleep because I was constantly
thinking of ideas. You really got to try and
balance his stuff out. Try and learn to have work hours and then switch
off outside of that. Just go back to life. I think it's really good to get some exercise routines
going so you can balance that head stuff out with some body stuff and just
help you switch off a bit. It's easy for me these days because my wife gets a **** with me when I blab on about whatever project I'm
working on too much. That's a pretty good
motivator to cut it out. But also I like
to go swimming or surfing just to
help dehead a bit. I've found meditation
really helpful. I used to hate meditation, but then I started doing
these guided meditations on YouTube and I just found it really helpful to take a break from all
the chatter in my brain. But obviously, you have to
find your own strategy. The point is having some other routines to
help balance you out, to help these projects stay fun, and that way you won't end
up as an anxious divorcee. [MUSIC] Remember, the hardest part of a project is probably
going to be yourself. Try and get in the
habit of not listening to that negative
voice in your head. It's just an opinion and things that are actually going
to turn out fine. Try and foster some good
life habits to help you switch off and always
thinking about the project, and also just make you
feel good in general. The better you feel, the
more likely you are to keep this thing rolling
and rolling in a fun way. Whether it's going
for long walks are getting oiled up and
wrestling with him Mike, there's no judgment here. Just keep yourself
feeling good and help that mind switching
off from time to time. [MUSIC]
6. Pre-Production: How Are Shows Sold?: [MUSIC] Knowing the different ways that broadcasters buy
shows will be helpful when you're figuring out how
to approach this process, if indeed you're hoping to
sell the show like we were. Now, when selling a show, there are generally
two main options. The first is a commission. This is usually
when a broadcaster pays to have a show
made for them. Think shows like X Factor
or Game of Thrones, HBO commissioned Game of
Thrones to be made for them. They pay for everything and then usually own the
rights to the show. If you want a commission, I would suggest you go ahead and make the first
episode of the show, this is called a pilot episode. Then you'll approach broadcasters
or distributors with a pilot and other documents that I'll talk about in
the selling section. That is not what we did. We didn't get a commission, we got an acquisition
because we self-funded the production and went and
shot everything ourselves. This meant we had bypassed
the commission type of deal, which meant we went into
the acquisition category, so the deal we got
was an acquisition. This is when a
broadcaster pays you a license fee to
show your content, but you still ultimately
own the right to your show. To make this a bit clearer, think about Netflix shows. There's the shows that
Netflix has made themselves, those are the commissions, and then there are all the
other shows that Netflix didn't make but are on
the platform anyway, those are the acquisitions. Those are shows that
Netflix has paid to be able to stream
on their platform. Now, we had a contract
with them saying they could show our
program for two years, but we still own the
rights to the show and could sell it to
other places as well, even though it was on Netflix. Now to be clear, commissions are harder to get, but it means you get
more money upfront, but it also means
the broadcaster generally owns the rights, that we call the shots more. Acquisitions mean that you
have to do more hard work upfront and might have to
self-fund the project. The acquisitions deals
are for less money, but on the plus side, they are easier to
get because they're less risk for the
broadcaster and it also means you ultimately own the rights and might
even be able to sell it to multiple broadcasters and make more money
in the long run, if money is your main motive, which it wasn't really for
us in the first season. There's two types of deals,
commissions and acquisitions. Commissions are
when a broadcaster pays to have a TV
show made for them, acquisitions are when a
broadcaster pays to stream an already existing program
on their platform or channel. Have a think about which path
you would like to go down. [MUSIC]
7. Pre-Production: Getting Started: [MUSIC] We had decided we wanted to go and
make a show ourselves, self finding it and everything. We decided we wanted to go the acquisition road instead of a commission because we
knew from working in the industry how hard it
was to get a commission. What were we going to make? Quite simply, we didn't
have much of an idea. As I told you before, Gonzo like road
tripping in the USA and I liked off the beaten track
travel and some coaches. We went with that to start. That was our rough premise, a road trip to the USA
where we hang out with interesting and weird
people that we meet while traveling and also make some
of it up along the way. We both agreed that the end goal was to get
it onto television. We decided that we would
try and make a series and multiple episodes and decided to work towards six
half-hour episodes. Now keep in mind there's
different options. You don't have to make six half-hour
episodes like we did. Some of the other options
are a one-hour documentary, a feature-length documentary,
which is anything upwards of 70 minutes,
full one-hour episodes. There's a bunch of options, so you really got to think what suits the type of show
that you're making. Just watch different shows on Netflix and see what formats suit different types of shows. Even if it doesn't
end up this way and changes into a different
format, that's okay. Just give it a rough
structure to work towards. We came up with a working
title for our show, which was quite simply
two men and a camera. We banged up a basic
logo and boom, we had a project. How exciting. Now the logo and the name
of the project ended up changing down the line when
another mate came on board. But it was good to have
something to work with for now. We decided we would set
a date for when we would like to start filming and
then work towards it. We gave ourselves about a year. We figured this would give us enough time to save
a bunch of money, research what equipment we might need and just start
getting in the zone. The money was the main thing. We needed time to save
a bunch of money, but it also bought us
a bunch of time to start focusing on our
upcoming project. We started getting down to work. It felt scary and exciting
to be working towards this thing without having any idea of where
it was going to go. [MUSIC] Don't spend too long refining your
show idea name, etc. Start with a rough guideline and let the show evolve as you go. You can never predict the
outcome from the get-go. At the same time don't be too vague with what
you're going for. We ended up shooting
all the content for our whole series. You might not have the
time and money to do this, but at the very least, aim to shoot the first episode. Figure out your
engulf from the start so you can work
towards achieving it. We wanted to get on TV, but you might be
just interested in an audience or the money
or the creative aspect. Know what you're after,
before you start. Branding is an important
aspect that can help you create an identity
for your project. But again, don't spend
too long refining the details and
characteristics of your brand. Make a mock-up and let it
evolve with your work. Setting a deadline is essential in helping
you achieve goals. Be realistic with when you'd like to get started and then do everything in your power to make sure you stop by that time. [MUSIC]
8. Pre-Production: Finding Inspiration: [MUSIC] At this point, I started looking around for
inspiration pretty heavily. I was looking around at
the people I respected, who are making shows
and I was really watching how they
were doing things. I was a little inspiration
sponge just sucking it up. I was watching a bunch of Louis Theroux stuff
because I liked the way he would go into
weird subcultures and interact with them, asking really great questions. From watching him, I was
starting to get a better idea of how to ask people
questions in a good way. I watched this
great online series called California Is
a Place which are these nine videos about
different characters around California and
I just loved them. I really deconstructed
the videos. I would watch them over and over again to see how they
did the interviews, what shots they would
use when they brought in music and what music
they would use. I even emailed the guys
who made them and ask them questions about what cameras they used and stuff like that. Then there was this show
called Backpackers that I'd remember I'd seen on Australian
television years ago. It was about these [inaudible]
guys that had gone to Europe and traveled around
with a handy-cam or something. I managed to find some old
episodes on YouTube because it was a similar thing to
what we were going to do. The production value is
actually pretty bad, but it was still inspiring
because these guys had obviously had no money and
still just went for it. Now we weren't
surfers or anything, but I loved the
vibe of surf films, so I wanted to scope
out how they did that. Often around the actual surfing, they would have these
great moments of them camping or traveling. I wanted to absorb
that stuff as well. I was doing my homework and
unlike normal homework, it was heaps of fun. I was watching heaps
of stuff and really just absorbing how
they were doing it. It was just making
me feel really inspired and excited about
doing it for myself. [MUSIC] Inspiration
is important. Consider your role models, shows you'd like to emulate, film-making styles you
admire and pick them apart, watch them over and over again until you've learned how
they were put together. Then you can single out the elements that
are really speaking to you and try and use
them for your own project. Don't be afraid to branch
out and seek inspiration from other projects that seem
dodgy or unprofessional. There's always something to
learn from any piece of work. [MUSIC]
9. Pre-Production: Money Talk: [MUSIC] A really massive factor
is obviously money. Production companies
and TV networks will usually have budgets of hundreds
of thousands of dollars. You don't have that and
we didn't have that, so don't worry about
it that didn't stop us and it
will not stop you, but you do need some money. Obviously, the way the big
production companies go about things is they go to the
network or Netflix and say, here's our great idea and the
network goes, we love it. He's a bunch of
money and you can go and make it. That will be great. But it's super rare for anyone without a track
record to score that. Also, it means a network
gets to control it, which means it's some
network executive gets to sign off
on all the ideas. We knew we probably
weren't going to score a commission
because we didn't have a track record so we had to
go and do it all ourselves, and that meant paying
for it ourselves. Gonzo and I got pretty serious about raising money
for this trip. Gonzo moved back home
with his parents for the year leading
up to the trip so he could save every dime
and I moved into tent in so friend's backyard and
they charged me like 20 bucks a week rent or
something like that. We barely ate out or went out. We just knuckle down and saved. By the time we left in the USA after we'd bought
all the equipment, I had saved about 12 grand. That was the money I
needed to live and love with the next six months
that we were there for. That might sound like a lot
to you, but in TV land, it actually isn't and I ran out halfway and needed to raise more money through crowdfunding. You might not need
that much money or maybe you need more. Remember, we wanted to be traveling around for
about six months, so that's quite a long time. By looking back on the trip, I can now see the calculations I should've done
before we started to give me a good idea
of how much money we might've needed and I'll
walk through those with you. By the way, I'm
just talking about the money you need to
do the production. Once we came back
from the production, we all got part-time
jobs which helped us hustle on the side
until we sold the show. Let's focus on production first. The main expenses
for production are going to be the equipment
you need to buy to make the show and the other
main cost is going to be the daily expenses of
traveling around and making a show while
eating and sleeping, and putting petrol
in your car and smoking cigarettes
and all that stuff. I'll break down these costs
in two main sections so you can start the calculation for
the money you might need. I'll also do a segment on crowdfunding later
in case you want to raise some money
that way [MUSIC]. To make the project of
your dreams happen, you're going to have to
make some sacrifices to your daily life and expenses. For me, that meant
moving into a tent. For you, it could mean
giving up takeaway coffee, selling your car, or moving
into mom and dad's place. Do whatever you got do to make your project happen,
make a budget. I'll get to that later, but factor in the fact that
you will need to do a bit of math before you hit the
road for your own good. Finally, you can and will create something without
the massive budget of production companies
and TV networks. [MUSIC]
10. Pre-Production: The Equipment: Our first major
expense was buying the equipment we needed
to make the show, the camera gear,
sound gear and so on. Most important thing
is your camera. For our first series, we decided to buy a Canon XF100. It was a great camera
that was pretty cheap. It still broadcasts quality. Unfortunately, I can't
show you our one because it got lost in one of our
later production trips. The downside of that
camera was that it didn't have
interchangeable lenses. All you filmmakers who
want to get fancy with your lenses this might not
be the camera for you. But the upside of something like the XF100 is it's basically
a glorified camcorder. If you're a really
amateur camera person, it's best to get a
camera like this, the professional camcorder type. Pretty basic to use without
all the bells and whistles. This is the Sony FS700. We bought this one for our
next couple of seasons. It's also a pretty
great camera and it does have
interchangeable lenses. The downside of a
camera like this is it's a little bit
more complicated to use I'd only head in that direction if you're feeling confident with the camera. The XF100 can be
bought for around a 1000 bucks second-hand
and the Sony FS700, maybe two grands sometimes less. Heaps of older cameras will
do just as great a job. The XF100 was great
for us because we were making a lo-fi
style travel show and we found out that the XF100 is what a lot of the vice videos were getting shot on at the time, and we liked that look so that's the camera
that we went for. I would do a bit of research about what camera
is best for you. I'm not going to talk about all the different cameras
because we'd be here all day. There's so many out there and there's new ones coming
out all the time. It's important to note that you don't need the
latest and greatest. We had one of the cheapest
pro cameras on the market. I would say whichever
camera you're looking at, just watch a bunch of reviews on YouTube and make sure you
don't go for the review where the guy is saying
that everything is awesome because they've
obviously been sent the camera by the manufacturer. You want to find someone who
is obviously being a bit more honest about the pros
and cons of each camera. The main thing I would recommend with the
camera is that it has XLR inputs so your
sound gear can plug directly into the camera
and record into it. You also want the
option of being able to set the sound
levels manually. Make sure your future
camera can do this. It'll usually mean to have little sound dials
on the camera. Also, you want your
camera to have the sound input
option where you can switch between mic input, line input, or plus 48. This is so you can plug in the different microphones
that you'll need. The pills usually need
the micro line option and the top mark I'll talk
about runs on plus 48, which is also referred
to as phantom power. I'll cover these
microphones in a second. After we got the camera, we go a decent tripod. Now we knew that we
were going to shoot mostly handheld because that
was the style that we liked. The tripod wasn't that vital, we just got a photo tripod
from one of their other mates. I'm sure you've got some
mate who wanted to get into photography and
bought a bunch of gear and now it's just
sitting around getting dusty. Hit them up and borrow it. Otherwise, just get a
secondhand tripod for 50 bucks. We also had a little
GoPro because we wanted to do some driving
shots from the front of the car and also shooting
back into the car just to get that road
trip vibe going. Now sound gear is
pretty important. In the era of reality shows and all that stuff people can handle video that isn't
shot really well, but they won't
abide by bad sound. Good sound or bad
sound is what will differentiate a good production, a professional production
from an amateur one. We got two things. We got this rode NTG1 mic. This was generally our top mic, which means that it
was the one that sits on top of the camera. This is a really
great microphone and served us really well. If you want a boom mic like those ones that they
hold up on film sets, you can just trap it to
a stick or something. This mic is the ****
and it only costs between 200 and 300 bucks, which is pretty unreal for
a pro quality like this. This mic runs on phantom power, which is a weird turn. It basically means it needs juice from your camera to run. That's plus 48 option that
I talked about before. That'll power a
microphone like this. Then we bought one
lapel microphone. This was for when
we did interviews. Now later down the
line when we had more money for season
two and three, we bought it great
sine highs of lapels, but they're pretty pricey. If you can afford
one of those, great. But otherwise, for Series 1, we just bought these asden ones. This was a 15 BT and I don't think they
make them anymore. They are about 300 bucks and
they served us really well. Just make sure
when you're buying sound gear that you don't get the cheapest thing out there because you'll get
what you pay for. Get the mid-range
staff or just go as high as you can without
breaking the bank. You want decent quality
sound gear and get a stack of AA batteries or
whatever goes in your lapel. That's it for sound. Series 1, we just had the
lapel and the road mic. That was our sound gear. We had a cord to connect
it to the camera and a long XLR cable
in case we wanted to use the rode mic
with a longer reach. Generally, if we were talking to the camera in the car or if someone was talking
to the camera close up, we would just use the rode
mic on top of the camera. If we were doing interviews, we would put the lapel
on the person we were interviewing and we'd use
the rode mic as a backup. I will go over sound recording
in the production section. We had a decent pair
of headphones so we can monitor the sound
as we were shooting. You want to find
out right away if the sound is coming
in badly or too low, not later when you're editing. We also had a spare battery for the cameras so that we
can shoot for the ages. That way we could charge one while shooting with
the other one. Two spares wouldn't hurt either. You obviously want to
charge it to go with it. And a car charger is
super handy in case you don't have access to power
and you can charge on the go. You want some big SD cards or whatever cards your
camera shoots onto. Do not buy cheap ****** ones. We bought a couple of
cheap ****** SD cards and they corrupted
at some stage. Buy decent priced ones from well-known brands this is not
the thing to cheap out on. I'm all about cheaping out. This is not the place to do it. You also want a card reader so you can transfer the footage. We also had this little top
light so that we could still film if the lighting was
crappy or if it was dark. Later we bought
this awesome one, but for season one we
just had this little guy. You also want a
lens wiper thingy so you can keep the lens clean and some power adapters for whatever
country you're going to. Now, hard drives. What I would really
recommend doing is having two hard drives and putting the same footage on both drives. There's the main drive
and then there's the backup drive which is a
mirror image of the main one. This is in case the main one dies or is lost or something. We learn the hard way that if a hard drive dies or gets corrupted for some weird reason, and you don't have a
backup and you've already wiped the cards then it's sucks. If all your footage
takes up three drives, you actually want
six drives because each hard drive should
have a backup hard drive, which is the mirror
image of its bro. When you get back
and start editing, you probably want a
main master drive to put all the footage onto, but we'll go over that in
the post-production section. Let's stay focused
on production here. Now, you'll need a laptop so you can be dumping
footage on the go and also reviewing
footage and probably editing cubits of
footage on the road. Then you're going to want
some editing software. Now I use Adobe Premiere
on a yearly subscription, but just go with what you know. That's it for
production equipment. That is all the stuff that
we had when we set off. [MUSIC] For series 1 we used the Canon XF100
shape of broadcast quality. That said it didn't have
interchangeable lenses. Series 2 and 3, we had the Sony FS700, which does have
interchangeable lenses. Do your research and
know what vibe you're going for before
settling on a camera. Don't be afraid
to go secondhand. Make sure your camera has
XLR input so that you can directly plug your
sound gear into the camera. Also makes sure the camera has the option of setting
sound manually, as well as the mic line or
plus 48 phantom power options. Don't skimp out on sound gear. While shoddy video
can scrape by with audiences shoddy
audio is never okay. Invest in decent
quality sound gear or at least go for the
mid-range products. Avoid cheap sound gear like your professional life depends on it because you know what? It does. Grab a good set of headphones for testing out
sound while you're shooting. This is the best
time to pick up on crappy audio coming into
the camera not after. Just like sound gear, don't skip out on your SD cards or whatever your camera uses. They are holding the lifeblood
of your project and it is not placed to take
chances with fake. Double up on all your
hard drives, trust me, make sure each and every
hard drive has a clone. Be prepared and you'll
never have to face a data loss disaster
like we did. [MUSIC]
11. Pre-Production: Other Expenses: [MUSIC] Guys, let's get down
to the other side of the money you're
going to need, all the non-production
equipment stuff. These are the things you're
going to have to consider. I can't just give you
a figure and say here, you need 18 grand because that's not the case
as each production is different depending
on what you want to do and how you're
going to go about it. But from having done the trip, I can give you some things
to think about that will give you a rough idea of the money that
you're going to need. Firstly, if you're doing it in another country like we
were the plane ticket. How much is the plane
ticket going to cost for return ticket and how much are visas going to cost
for that country and how long does that visa
allow you to stay for? Next, how are you
going to get around? We bought a cheap
$700 Toyota Camry. Now with cars, you need to
check the legalities of being a foreigner buying
a car in that country. Being Australian,
we weren't able to buy a car in certain
states in the USA, but managed to buy
one in California. But even then we had a
bit of trouble trying to get insurance because
we weren't citizens. It's a really good idea
to research this stuff. Maybe you have to hire a car, how much is that going to cost? Research. When buying a
car for the love of God, please try and get
someone who knows about cars to check
it out first. Our car was cheap and we ended up paying for
it in the long run. It broke down and
needed bits and pieces replaced so many times that
by the end of the trip, we were basically driving a different car because we had
replaced so many pieces of it and it cost us a few
thousand dollars in mechanical repairs over
the course of the trip. It's going to be a really
important part of your trip, so don't be too relaxed
about it like we were. Also, it's really
good to look up cars that are really easy
and cheap to repair. Lucky for us, we had
an old Toyota Camry and although it
broke down heaps, they're pretty inexpensive
cars to repair and get parts for so that worked
in our own bums favor. After the car, a good idea
is to get travel insurance. I never used to get
travel insurance. Before this trip my dad
convinced me to do it. I'm stoked that he did
because on the trip my appendix burst and I had
to go to hospital in the USA. The cost of the operation
was upwards of 30 grand. I would've been truly screwed
without travel insurance. Another type of insurance
you might want to consider is insurance
for your equipment. We didn't actually get any, but that's a pretty
risky maneuver and our car did get broken
into in Atlanta. Luckily, they didn't
grab too much stuff, but that could have been
a real disaster for us. Public liability insurance is another type of
insurance to look into. This covers you in case you heard someone else
while filming. Again, we didn't have
this in the first season, but we did have it for
the next two seasons. It's up to you if you
want to run the gauntlet. I'm just telling you
things to consider. Now we had a decent 10. You can usually borrow
one from one of your mates who
never uses theirs. There's heaps of people who fantasize about going
camping all the time and board the
gear just like the tripod and it's
getting dusty. Ask around and get some
good camping gear with a good sleeping bag
and a decent mattress. This will save you heaps of
money and accommodation. On that first trip in the USA, we paid for accommodation
maybe a total of three weeks over
that whole six months. We saved a buttload of money there by camping
and couch surfing. Also, you can get some good cooking gear
that will save you stacks. What you spend on one
prepared meal is what you can spend on ingredients to
cook for an entire week, so it's really worth
thinking about. It ends up being nice
because a couple of times a week when you do
decide to pay for a meal, it feels like a real treat. Next up, you need to figure out how much money you're roughly going to need for traveling. You need to work backwards here. First off, think of what the format of your
show might be. This can change, but it gives
you something to work with. Say that our show was six
by half hour episodes. The rough equation for filming documentary stuff that
someone once told me is it takes at least an hour of filming
to turn into a minute. Now that's super variable, but at least it gives
you a starting point. At the minimum, I would say each half hour
episode would take at minimum like 30 hours to film. It's always safer to give
yourself more time if you can. Let's say you want a
week per half hour episode and then you
have six episodes. You're at six weeks
and then you probably want to add a couple of weeks as a buffer because **** happens, like cars breaking down
and appendixes bursting. You're at like two months. That might be too much
time for you. We had ages. We took six months to cruise around and do our first season. But let's just work
with my equation so you can see where
I'm getting at. Say you have the two months
that you think you're going to need to
make six episodes. Then you try and work
out your daily budget, your budget and how
much you're going to spend on food each day roughly. You add in petrol depending on how much you want to travel, how many beers you
drink per day, cigarettes, water,
work the **** out. How many times a week are you going to budget
for staying and accommodation and how many
nights are you going to camp? Add it all out and average
it out to the daily cost. Then times that daily cost by the two months and now
you've got a figure. Ideally add some money in case your car breaks down
and in case you lose your microphone one
night when you're drunk and you're going to
need to buy a new one. Add some money in case you
need to hire a car for the first week before you
find one to buy and boom. You're starting to
get a good idea of how much money
you're going to need. Then you add that to the film equipment
and you're getting a good idea of how much cash
you need for this project. Now it might be a fair
bit more than you think and you might have
to make sacrifices. I saved all my money for a year. I pretty much stopped
eating out that whole time, barely drunk any alcohol, made heaps of sacrifices
in my day-to-day life. You'll be amazed how much
money you'll save when you cut out all those
unnecessary costs. It's tough because you're
used to those luxuries. Trust me, the feeling of
an achievement like this will fire away all
those bottles of beer. Now we underbudgeted and ran
out of money halfway due to car issues and also just having no idea how much
money we might need. We had to use crowdfunding to raise more money and
finish the show. Like I said, I'll cover
crowdfunding later. Now whatever you do, keep a track of who
is spending what. We kept a good record of who bought what
equipment and who was spending what money
as we were going along the pre-production
and production. That way, when money
starts coming in, once you sell the show, you'll know who
needs to get what. Go figure out how much
money you might need. You'll never get it
completely right, but it's good to
have a rough idea or at least more of
an idea than we had, which isn't hard
because we had no idea. [MUSIC] If you're going to
be doing this overseas, make sure you thoroughly
research visas, insurance, and all that pretty boring stuff
that's essential. Consider how long
you need to stay, how you'll be getting around, whether you can buy a car there, and whether you can buy
insurance for that car. If you do plan on buying a car, make it a trusted brand that is easily and
inexpensively repaired. Even if you have to
splurge a little more, you're better off
paying a little extra in the
beginning rather than basically putting in a
whole new engine bit by bit like we did. Look at what insurance
you might want. Travel insurance,
I now stand behind 100 percent after saving
my *** in the USA. Then do you want
equipment insurance , public liability insurance? Even if you don't want to
pay for any insurance, just do your due
diligence and know what it is that you're not
insuring yourself from. A general rule is
that one hour of filming equates to one
minute of footage. Consider how many episodes of what length you want
to create and use the above formula to estimate how much time you'll
need to record, then add more time as a buffer. If you're with the crew, keep track of who is spending what. Write this down somewhere. It's easy to think
you'll remember, but after six month and a ****
load of crazy experiences, it's the last thing
you'll remember. [MUSIC]
12. Pre-Production: Basic Administration: [MUSIC] Admin, what a boring world? Well, you can't escape it
and it's going to be a lot less painful if you get
a good system going. First of all, Gonzo and I were
a bit sloppy for a while, so maybe just skip that bit. We would start a document on his computer and then one
on mine and then save one on his desktop than one on Google Drive or
somewhere. It was a miss. Then each time we
were like, hey, let's open up our document of potential ideas or our document
or potential equipment, we would be looking around, didn't you save
it in that folder or maybe it's my computer, or I think it's
on your computer. It was totally amateur. You got to get involved
in shared drives like Google or
Dropbox or whatever. Get a good file structure
going two men and a camera, pre-production, potential
ideas, potential equipment, contact list or whatever. But just get some
organization in there and use a shared drive it'll
make it much easier. This is how professional
cruise role and you're starting to
be a professional crew, so begin acting like one. The other thing you need
is a decent email address. My email address used to be captainpoland@hotmail.com
and that wasn't going to cut it anymore. At the very least,
you just got to have your name with Gmail
at the end of it? No, Tim rule 778 or
any of that ****. Even better would be
Timproductions@gmail.com or something like that. Just make it look
semi-professional. You don't want people thinking
is some preteen clown. Once we had decent
email addresses set up, it was time to contact people. I always use the same email
address to contact people. So all the emails
were in one place. I would also highly
recommend that anytime you get an email
relating to your show, put it in a folder. That way when you email gets really messy or you
need to look for someone's contact or some
important bit of information, it will be in that
folder in your email. Really good habit to get into. [MUSIC] Admin is boring, especially when you're filming a bad *** production, but do it. Do it earlier rather than later or you will
spend hours fixing up your mess and wishing you just listened to me
from the get-go. Get onto shared drives like
Google Drive or Dropbox. I personally prefer
Google Drive. Label your files and
folders appropriately. Silliness is fun, especially
when working with mates, but not when it comes to
bite you in your bum later, sort out your email address
and get professional. Make sure you always use a dedicated email address for anything related to
your production. Get on top of things
like labels and filing. So it's easier for
you to track down specific emails in the future. [MUSIC]
13. Pre-Production: Release Forms: [MUSIC] Now, the second part of the admin is the legal forms and documents
you're going to want. One, release form. If you haven't seen a
release form before, this is what one
basically looks like. This is a form that
you need to get people to sign when
you film them. What the person is signing his permission that
you're allowed to film them and use that
recording in your production. This is a legal requirement and if you intend to sell
your show there is always a possibility
that the network you sell it to will ask to
see the release forms. They usually won't, but it's good to have them just in case. The other reason
for a release form is if someone that you film sees himself on TV
and they don't like it, and they try to take legal
action unless you've got a piece of paper where
they've given you permission to film them. The second one is a
location release form. This is just like a
release form for people, but it's for places. This is for when
you're filming in someone's restaurant or shop
or something like that. You just want to
get the permission of the owner so that you're covered to film there for all
the same reasons as above. Download free ones. Every country has resources where you can get
a hold of these. Trust me, type in free video release form
and there will be heaps. Just make sure it's coming
from a legitimate source. [MUSIC]
14. Pre-Production: Online Presence: [MUSIC] Website and social
media and looking legit. We had another mate join
our little gang, Nick, as it turned out that maybe three people will
be better than two. We re-branded ourselves
from two men in a camera to Unplanned America. Our mate brother came up
with a cool logo and we decided this was going to
be the name of that show. Now, we decided to get a website going and
a Facebook page. Let's talk social media and
website and all that stuff. Do you need to get involved? It's a great question,
and I'll tell you why it was a bonus for us. We started a Facebook page, and in the beginning
it was just a way so our mates could
follow our journey. What we did is we were
traveling and making the shows, making little updates
and short videos and funny staff that we would
post on our Facebook. We were just having fun, but we ended up slowly
building up a following. By the time we were
trying to sell the show, we had about 2,000 likes
on our Facebook page and some of our videos on YouTube had a few
thousand views each. Now, none of that is big
numbers or anything, but what it did was prove
to people that we were meeting with that we were serious about trying
to do this thing. It showed that we
were putting some effort into it and also that people were starting
to respond to that effort. This helped down the line for us because it showed the
network that we sold it to that people out there were actually liking
what we were doing. It gave them some
evidence of that. Yeah, if you can't be bothered, get an Instagram going or whatever social media
thing is happening for you and just have
some fun with it. Divide it up so each person
is responsible for it at different times so you don't get completely sick of it by
doing it all yourself. Just have fun. I think the trap a lot of
people get into is like, "What am I going to post that other people
are going to like and how can we make our shows
other people will like it?" I really think that's the
wrong way to go about it. Making sure any social media
post and everything you do so that you like it and
you'll find your audience. Make sure first and foremost
that you're having fun. When you start to
build up a following, you got to nurture
your little community. These people are
following you and take an interest in
what you're doing, so engage with them and nurture them and communicate with them. Don't just wait till
you've got heaps of followers before you decide
that they're worth anything. You should be nurturing them
from the very first person. Marketing guru, Seth Godin, talks about you
following as a tribe. Imagine that you're
starting a little tribe, and nurture your little tribe. You're their leader, so be a cool leader. Be nice to them
and make them feel valued and they'll keep coming
with you on this journey, and they'll probably
tell their friends. Now, we got a website going. It's really easy to get
a website happening, so if you can be bothered,
then just do it, even if it just has some
stock footage of a car driving with coming soon
written over the top. We would often email
people and say, "Hi, we're an Australian
documentary crew filming a project about traveling
without a plan." If they ask to see more stuff, we could just push
them to our website. That just showed them we
were serious enough to get a website happening and
a logo or whatever, even though our website was just a short video of stock footage and the
words Coming Soon. It's really not hard to
look legit these days. If you're serious
about this project, then just put a
little bit of effort into it and make
it look that way, and it will go a long way, and just have fun with it. Don't make it a chore. Do it if you feel the buzz
and be creative with it. People will dig it. [MUSIC] Get on social media, even if you're just posting fun little updates
for your mates, you never know where
that will take you. You could end up with
more fans, shares, likes, viral posts,
you never know. A website is a gateway
to looking professional. If you're going to be talking
to a lot of people to get permission to
film, get a website, even if it's a blank page with just the words Coming Soon, you'll look that
much more legit. [MUSIC]
15. Pre-Production: Planning your Stories: [MUSIC] When you start
building an episode, you want to think
of the two main aspects of a documentary. There's the interviews
and the visuals. You want the interviews and information to be
interesting and from interesting people and you
want the visuals to look cool. We've all seen
documentaries that have good information
but they're boring because they're just a bunch
of people sitting there and talking without much action. We've also seen heaps of videos
that have great visuals, but have very little
substance because they don't have good interviews
or information. Try and have both. For interviews, try and
research people that are experts on a subject or
right in the thick of it. If you're making a documentary
about gangsta rap, talk to experts on gangsta rap, but also talk to gangsta
rappers themselves. Then try and film
lots of cool stuff of them, hanging out, wrapping down to the local club, the neighborhood they
live in, lots of stuff. For example, I'll
talk you through an episode we did about Detroit. One of the other boys, Nick, lined this episode up and I think he did a really
great job with it. He was fascinated with Detroit, he loved the fact that
half the city was abandoned and that there was these great abandoned
buildings everywhere. But he'd also heard
that there was this great scene of activists, and urban farmers and
artists that were slowly reviving the city
in a whole different way, focusing more on community
than on industry. He went digging. He looked up news articles, read stuff online, watched some little documentaries on YouTube about Detroit
and the same. From this, he started
getting an idea of the things to go in the episode. He found out where the
iconic abandoned buildings were and where
other neighborhoods that were abandoned were. He lined up this local
photographer called Eric, who took us on a tour of the abandoned
buildings in the area, so we could film them
for some great visuals. He found out that there was a very well-respected author and activist in the area
called Grace Lee Boggs, who had kicked
around with people like Malcolm X back in the day and had some really inspiring philosophies
about Detroit, so he lined up an
interview with her. He found out that there was
this couple who was turning abandoned properties
into urban farms and teaching kids
how to do it too, so we lined up in an
interview with them. He found a young
entrepreneur who had bought a whole factory for $50,000 and turned it into this
shared workspace where all these social initiatives
and artists could work from. We lined up an interview
with him and we lined up an interview with the
people in their workspaces. He found this local
poet who had been very vocal about her
crappy upbringing in Detroit and how she was transmuting it all into
something more positive, so we lined up an
interview with her. My mom had me at 16 and didn't really know how
to raise a family. We went through a lot of things. He found a local
hip-hop club where all the upcoming local hip
hop artists would perform at. We went there, got amongst it and interviewed some
of the hip-hop crew. You see, he was really
putting together a pretty dynamic and
interesting episode, which was a mix of good
interview subjects and good visuals. Then the rest we made
up as we were there, depending on what jumped out at us when we were on the ground. That often happens. You line up a bunch of
staff but also keep your eyes open for the good stuff when you're in amongst it, even if it's not
part of the plan. When we were there filming with the gangsta rappers in Chicago, one day this cool character
in a pink suit rocked up on a motorbike and
turned out he was a local legend with heaps
of great knowledge. We asked if he could do
an interview with him. Don't be afraid to stray from the plan if you think there's
some goods to be got. Now we didn't do much storyboarding when we
were putting together an episode but if you need some visual help with how you might be putting
it together, and I would recommend
getting out the postage and sticking
them to the wall with the different elements
you're laying out just to get a feel
of your episode to see if it's too hectic or too empty or just see what
you're lining up. I would always recommend filming and lining up more
than you think. Sometimes interviews don't
turn as good as you think. Were you in hot
tub time machine? No. No. It's easier to cut
stuff out when you don't need it
rather than try and find stuff if you don't
have enough when you're in the editing stage of your
production. Off you go. Time to start lining up
the elements to make a really interesting and
visually great episode. Just so you know, don't worry if your cinematography
isn't world-class. If you find a great story, that's the main thing. If the subject is interesting, people won't care if
it's not going to win an Oscar for
its cinematography. [MUSIC] Remember that
a good documentary is a mix of great
interviews from good sources and good visuals. The more dynamic, the better. Do your research on your
potential story and start lining up a plan of places to film and people to interview. Then start getting in touch with them and lining it all up. Imagine that you are a private detective who's
doing the research and finding out all
this cool stuff so that you can then show
it to your viewers. [MUSIC]
16. Pre-Production: Contacting People: Once we were starting to
find people and places, it was time to get in touch and see if we could
film with them. Now, this is an area
where you just need to stand by yourself and
pretend that you're legit. When we would contact people, we would say, "Hi, we're an Australian
documentary crew making a show about
interesting subcultures, and we were hoping
we could talk to you guys about
being in our show?" We would also have
our little logo at the bottom of the email and a job title for ourselves
like Director or Producer, just to back up the
perception of our legitness. You'll be surprised
how many people were more than happy
to be involved. Don't just assume that
people are going to say no. In my experience, people
actually say yes. How often do you get
the chance to tell your story and be treated
like an expert on a subject? Now usually you can get a hold
of people through Facebook or LinkedIn or just searching
online through their email. But here's the thing, if you're going to film with people don't just email them or
message them on Facebook. You have to call
them at some stage and have actual conversations. It's a really good
practice to get into. Yes, email them, but at some stage jump on
a call with them and start building up rapport with people before you meet them to film. What I would do is have at
least two conversations with them before I'd
meet them him film. One way you ask
him some questions and try and get a vibe for them, and the other one
where you just have a chin wag and get
comfortable with each other. The more comfortable that people are with you the better, and more comfortable
they're going to be opening up when you're
there with a camera. Now, if you going to be
filming with people, even if you're not
going to be on camera, make sure you're comfortable
talking to people. If you're a bit
awkward at making conversation and it's not
your forte, that's okay. There's heaps of books out there that you can get some tips from. I read a few books including
this one which was called How to Talk to Anyone, Anytime, Anywhere, The Secrets of Good
Communication by Larry King. It wasn't the best book ever, but I definitely got
some pointers from it. There is stacks of literature or YouTube videos that
can help you out. Also, something to be aware of, if you're planning to film with minority groups or
indigenous people, please be very
aware that there's often different
etiquette and things don't always work the same
way that you're used to. In these instances,
make sure that when you first make contact that
you say something like, "Look, please excuse me if I make any errors
in etiquette, it comes from ignorance. I'm not doing it on purpose. Please make me aware
of anything I can do better or the
proper etiquette." It's very important to
acknowledge that you are not aware of the
proper etiquette but that you want to learn, and that you are
being respectful that they might do
things differently. Please don't be another ignorant
white person who doesn't give a crap about anything
except your own culture. People will smell this a mile away and they will
react accordingly. Really this goes for everyone you're going to
potentially film with. People can feel the way that
you're approaching them, so try your best to be open
to them and respectful. If you feel like you're
better than them or have some other crappy
attitude they will sense it and you're
not going to get the best from them as
filming subjects. [MUSIC] Before you start
contacting subjects, make sure you've really
embraced you're legitness. You are a professional, you have every right to contact these people and they would be honored to be a part
of your project. Don't think you
can get away with just virtual chat with
your potential subjects. Get on the phone and give
them a call, build rapport. If you're socially
anxious or a bit awkward, get reading some conversational
tips and advice, there's plenty out
there to learn from. If you're working
with minority groups who are indigenous folk, make sure you announce
your ignorance beforehand. Apologize just in case you should happen to offend someone. Ask them to point
out any errors in etiquette or behavior.
Take it on board. Try to integrate with their ways of being and socializing, learn from them. [MUSIC]
17. Pre-Production: Outro: [MUSIC] That's it for
pre-production tips. Pre-production is
about trying to make sure that as much stuff as possible is in
place for when you hit the road and
you hit production. Now, things are going to change, and you're not going to be able to prepare for everything. We add heaps of stuff go down that we could
never have full saying like our car breaking down every five minutes
and stuff like that. But you want to try and
feel as good about things as you can once you
hit into production. By the time we were
about to fly to the USA, the three of us felt
like a little unit. I was super nervous when
we started production. I wasn't sure if we had
prepared everything properly in pre-production because
I'd never really worked on a project
like this before, and I had no idea if
we were going to make something that people would
actually want to buy. But we pushed ahead anyway. I realized that even if
we tried and failed, I'd feel a lot better about myself than if I'd
never tried at all. Onwards we went. I'll see you in
the next section. [MUSIC]
18. Crowdfunding: Tips: [MUSIC] All right everyone, it's time to talk
about crowdfunding. This might be a road
you want to go down to raise some funds
for your project. Now, we didn't rely
solely on crowdfunding. In fact, we hadn't
even considered it until our car broke
down mid trip, and it was going to cost us
more than US$2,000 to fix. That was going to
take a huge chunk of cash out of our bank, and we weren't even
sure if we're going to be able to finish
the trip after that. We decided to do a
crowdfunding campaign. We aimed to raise around $6,000, and actually managed
to raise $9,000, which was super amazing for us. I'll tell you how we
went about things and what I've noticed from other friends running their
own crowdfunding campaigns. First-off, be very clear about what
crowdfunding is about. For 99 percent of us
going into crowdfunding, the people you'll be
receiving money from will actually just be
your friends and family, and their friends and family. It's going to come
from your network and your extended network. We had this illusion
that there'd be all these cashed up
people cruising around the internet just
looking for projects today to donate thousands
of dollars too. Now, this might be the
case for the Auto ID, which is going to change
the game and going to be the next Facebook or revolutionize the
way we make coffee. But for the majority
of projects, we'll be getting
money from people that you know personally. The next thing to be aware of is how much money you can
realistically raise. Now, we were lucky
because we raised 3,000 more than we aim for, but from watching our own
crowdfunding project and a few of my friends' projects
and averaging them out, I'd say that the
amount of money you can aim for is about AU$1,000 to AU$3,000 per person
involved in the project. Don't aim for
something unrealistic, like 30,000 or something like that because it's
just not going to happen. Now, to get the cash, you're going to have
to be very proactive. There's no such thing
as a free ride here, so don't think you can
just put the campaign up, sit back, and let
the money roll in. You're going to have to
promote it shamelessly. That's the key word
here, shamelessly. First off, you need to
pick your platform. We went with Possible, but there's also Kickstarter, Indiegogo, all these
other platforms. Do a bit of research to see which platform you're liking
the vibe off the most. They all have
different processes, deadlines, ways in
which they work. Look at some of the
other projects that has successfully raised money. Look at the video, what
they wrote for the project, and just get an idea of what's appealing and
effective and works. Next up, shoot a
slick little video that shows your faces. Explain to people
what you're doing, and open up a little. Tell them why this project
means a lot to you. People love to help other
people go for their dreams, so let them know how much
this project means to you. Make sure your video
isn't too long. Unfortunately, the video
we made is long gone, so I can't show you an
example of what we did. But in the next video, I'll show you what one of my friends did, which helped her raise the money she was aiming for successfully. You can get a vibe
of the kind of thing that works
in this scenario. I'll put up the link
to her project and another friend's
project just so you can scope out what they wrote
in their descriptions. After the video and the blurb, you need to set some rewards. The way most crowdfunding
platforms work is that you have little rewards for
people who donate money. Now, we made this process way too
difficult for ourselves. We promised people photo books and all these
elaborate ****. But remember that most
people are giving you the money because they like you and they want you to succeed, not necessarily because
they want a reward, so keep it simple. Things you could
give out include a personal video message
saying thank you, and invite to a screening
of the first episode, which could just be in your
backyard with a projector, or even just an invite to
a barbecue or something. Make it easy and
simple and cheap. There's no point raising
money for a project if you're just going to spend it
all on people's rewards. Now, once you've got
the rewards sorted and the video and the blurb up, get a friend to have a look over everything just to
make sure it's good. Then get it up, get it live. This is where the hard
part starts because now, you're going to have to
promote it like crazy and make sure people are aware
that it's happening. I really hated this part. I felt like a sleazy salesman, but you got to do it. Posts it on your
Facebook wall or whatever social media you use and keep doing
it every week. Message people you know, tell them to post
it on their walls, tell your friends,
tell your family, just be shameless about it. I would private message people the link and say, "Hey buddy, I'm raising cash for
this project I'm doing, which is basically
chasing my dreams of creating my own TV
series. Here's the link. Reckon you could
share with anyone you think would be interested
in helping me out?" That way, I wasn't
directly saying, "Hey man, give me cash," but
I knew that they would have a look at it anyway. Now, a lot of those
people actually ended up sending
some dollars my way. A bunch of my friends even
shared it on their pages. It's going to be the most
anxious months of your life, but it's going to be worth it. It's basically free money, but even free money isn't free. If it costs a bit of
anxiety, that's pretty fair. One last thing to add is
that whatever money you get is often counted as
income in many countries. Just make sure that you're aware of your tax responsibilities. Don't come whining
to me if you get busted for dodging
tax, you little ****. [MUSIC] Not all crowdfunding
sides are the same. Research each one
of them carefully, and know what's involved
and how the process works. Then choose the
most suitable one for your goals and project. Make sure you dedicate
enough time for crowdfunding and just don't whip the whole
thing up overnight. Put some time into it and effort to produce a great video, and write up a professional
and convincing blurb to entice people into donating. You might be excited to
start raking in the dollars, but speeding through the step means you might
not earn as much. Keep your reward
simple and personal. You're going to be busy working on the project of your dreams, so don't promise time-consuming
and expensive rewards you're going to regret later. Be realistic about
how much money you can raise on this project. Don't expect your campaign
to bring in millions. Our rough equation is AU$1,000
to AU$3,000 per person, but that's only if you're
willing to shamelessly work your butt off and promote that
link to everyone you know. You're only going to make as much money as you put
effort into this step. Share your link and make
sure everyone you know has got your crowdfunding
campaign on their radar. Swallow your fears,
anxiety, and insecurities, and do what it takes to
make your campaign succeed. Remember, you could be
taxed for your earnings. [MUSIC]
19. Crowdfunding: Example Video: [MUSIC] Here is my friend Gen's video that she used for her crowdfunding campaign to raise money for the launch
of her art business. My name is Genevieve. Art has been in my life
since I was born. My parents are artists
and are teachers, but it was in high school that I probably actively
started to engage with it mainly because
I was just losing my **** and didn't
know how to function, so it was a really good outlet. I ended up coming to Australia and studying a
Bachelor of Fine Arts, which was super fun, and over the next 15 years, that passion never left me even though it was
a part-time thing. But I worked in galleries
and I had my own shows, kept painting and
producing until recently, I did an advanced
diploma in visual arts and really ignited
my full passion to take this full-time. I've decided to launch my full-time art
practice business, which is called Miss Unicorn, and that has four parts. One is monochrome paintings, the second one is the
lord frameworks on paper, the third one
unicorns and shows. The color of monochrome paintings
are medium large scale. They were born out of being
really overwhelmed actually, and I just found that working with one color
field is actually quite common and simplifying in the experience of the world, which is often quite
overstimulating. The Lord frameworks are works on paper that are really
intuitively driven. They turn into these
abstract poetic messages that were catered specifically
for the recipient. The next part are the unicorns, and they're like my
icon or totem animal. I feel like they
reflect back to people the magic and beauty that's in the world than in themselves. Lastly, I love to put on shows. This is not the moneymaker
of my business, but it's a passion thing, and I really like to create immersive environments for
people where they lose their day to day hangups
and just saturate into a little world that's
been set up for them and all these dormant parts of
themselves come to the table, which is quite freeing and
expressive and joyful. I really appreciate
your support. I truly feel like
a lot of things in my life have come together
for this moment in time, which makes me very excited. I'm so happy for you to be involved and to
see what's coming. [MUSIC]
20. Production: Introduction: [MUSIC] It's time for us to jet to the USA and
make the magic happen. We got to the USA, bought a $700 piece
of **** Toyota Camry, got a bunch of people who had just meant to help us paint it and then we hit the road
trying to make our own show. Now we were living pretty
rough to save cash. We were camping, sleeping
in strange places, couch surfing and occasionally staying in cheap dodgy motels, but you know what, there was all good fun
and we were fueled by the passion of
making our own show. Now, what we were
trying to do in essence was telling an interesting
story and tell it in a way that was
going to be engaging and cool for our future
viewers to watch. We needed to capture our
story in an interesting way. The production stage is
about filming your show and recording the sound in the best possible way
that you can manage. Now obviously the best possible ways to have a huge crew with a great cinematographer behind the camera and a camera system, a lighting guy, an
experienced director, sound recorders, some little
intern getting you coffees, but we didn't have that
budget and you know what, our show is still
pretty cool and had its own particular charm. There was only three of
us doing everything, so it can't be done trust me. I'll show you some of
the stuff we were doing. Follow me. [MUSIC]
21. Production: Camera Setup: [MUSIC] [NOISE] One of the
most important things for us was our camera setup. I'll do a section on
recording sound and workflow later but what's really important for us was having a basic camera setup that was ready to go
at the drop of a hat. That way if something happened, that was really awesome like someone driving next
to us who was doing something funny or
whatever it was like this guy driving next
to us in New York. [NOISE] *****'s reading his
******* paperwork [LAUGHTER]. What's he doing? You are kidding me. Do you see it? [LAUGHTER]. He's unsafe. Just a small example
but you get the idea. At the very least we
would try and make sure that there was a battery
charged in the camera, as well as a card with
a bunch of space on it. The top mic, which
was pretty much permanently on the
camera so that we could always record decent quality sound
really quickly. We mainly shot everything hand-held so we didn't
worry much about having a tripod handy
and it meant we could just turn on the camera
and start shooting. [NOISE] Also, don't be
ashamed to shoot stuff in auto-focus with auto settings like white balance
and things like that. I know that to be a
top-level professional, you would know how to
shoot everything in manual and set the color
balance perfectly, and all that and you know what? I do know how to do
that stuff now but at the time I didn't but I wasn't
going to let that stop me. I mean we were just
three guys trying to do everything and we couldn't
nail everything perfectly. We were traveling, lining
up people to shoot with, shooting, recording
sound, editing. We just couldn't be
aces at everything, we shot heaps of stuff in auto. The way technology
is these days, the auto function
usually works great. I mean, just make sure
it's looking good. I know heaps of people
are going to get their ***** at me for
even saying that stuff. Now, if you're
doing this course, you should already know
the basics of filming. But if you're super green, then I'll give you
some basic settings to keep your camera in, which will at least get
you across the line. Shooting in PAL or NTSC. Depending on what country
you're from while depend on whether you
shoot in PAL or NTSC. As a rough guide, if
you're in North America, you shoot in NTSC, most other places, PAL. Just look it up on Google
what country shoot in NTSC. If you're in one of those countries and
make sure you have your camera at 24 frames a
second or 30 frames a second. If you're in a PAL country, then set your camera to
25 frames per second. It sounds a bit complicated but it's all you have
to worry about. If you don't know much
about shutter speed then generally just set it to
double your frame rate. So 50 if you're a PAL person and probably 60 if you're
an NTSC person. Now, most of you
will be all over that stuff and you'll
be able to change those settings when
you're getting fancy because you know what
settings to use for what. But I just wanted
to go over it for the greenies but make sure you're really familiar
with your camera. Learn where all the little
switches are and a bit about its different functions
and all that stuff. This thing is basically your new spouse so get
to know it really well, you don't want to
be figuring things out in the middle of a shoot. So at least figure out where all the basic things are and
how to navigate the menu. We had our rig ready to rock at all times [NOISE] [MUSIC]. Make sure your camera is always set up and ready to
go at any moment, you don't want to miss a
spectacular spontaneous shot. If you need to shoot
in auto settings, don't feel like a phony or
a rookie, you doing great. Maybe you'll learn to
use manual settings after this project, who knows? Point is, do what you need to do and don't feel bad about it. Basic settings for the
beginners is people in PAL countries set your camera to shoot at 25 frames per second, usually, it says 25 P and get
your shutter speed at 50. NTSC folks you're
shooting at 24 P or 30 with your shutter
speed at double that. Make sure you know your camera inside and out before you start. Don't leave it till
your mid-shoot to work out how to
do that one thing. [MUSIC]
22. Production: Workflow: Getting into a good workflow
was really important for us and we kept refining it until it became a template. Now when we started, it was a bit of a
dog's breakfast and we'd be starting
shoots with cards. It hadn't been dumped onto the hard drive or a
battery that hadn't been recharged or we'd lost something but we got better
at it after a while. By workflow, what we did each
day while we were shooting. First step, we would make sure all our batteries were
charged and ready to go. That had been charging
overnight or whenever. We had fresh batteries
for things that might run out of
batteries like the lapel. We didn't want
lapels to run out of battery halfway
through the shoot, and have to duck down to
the shop because we did do that a few times and
it was embarrassing. Our laptop was charged in case we needed to dump
footage on the go, phones in case we needed
to call people or urgently look up YouTube videos of how to do something
on the camera. We would check our equipment. Did we have everything
we needed for the day? Camera, check, microphone check, top plug, check, tripod, check. You don't want to
forget anything. It's best if two of you
do this in case one of you is a bit scattered or
hangover or something. Till we have the SD cards and our camera was
recording onto. There's no point
having a camera if we didn't have a card
to record onto, but also have to
take our hard drives so that we could dump
footage at the shoot. If we weren't going to
be able to do that, that we had to make sure we had enough cards and COD space. It's also good to bring an extension code and a power board in case you want to set up a charging station
for your batteries. We've got all this stuff. Now we head to the shoot. We're shooting. Now the two main things that might happen is
you need to change the battery or you
need to change the card out of the camera. Just to note, some people think
it's really great to have cards that are
hundreds of gigabytes so you can shoot for
12 hours or something. I personally don't agree here. I think it's better
to have smaller cards like 32 gigabytes or whatever. That way, if you card
collapse and it does happen, instead of losing
two days of footage, you've only lost a few hours. Anyway, when we finish
shooting with a card, we take it out and
we used to put a little bit of colored
tape on the case. This way we'd know which card was full and shouldn't be used. Putting a fresh card
and away we go. This is the same
process with batteries. Once a battery runs out, it's good to have a
little marker on it so you know which one
not to use again. Afterwards, it's time
to charge this spin batteries and ingest the
footage that you shot. We would put the batteries on charge and start
ingesting footage. It's really best if you ingest the footage on the
same day you shoot it, otherwise things can
get really messy. Now when you're copying
the footage to the drive, make sure you've got
some structure on the drive as in an
organized folder system. This is so that it's not a total **** show when you're
editing all that work down the track or worse
someone else's editing and they just have no idea
where to look for footage. The structure the
we use was would break the folders
down by shoots. If we were with the superheroes, we'd have a folder
called superheroes then a folder saying day one. Then in that sub folder
would be card 1, card 2, card 3, depending on how
many cards we used. For the **** star shoots, we would have **** set, day 1, day 2, day 3, and within each day, card 1, card 2, card 3. Now that's just a
system we used. There's probably better
systems out there and you need to go and figure
out what your system is. But the important
thing is once you've decided on a system,
stick with that. Anyway, we would ingest the footage into the
appropriate folder. Now remember earlier when
I said two hard drives, so there's the main drive and then there's
the backup drive. If you don't remember,
I'm going to say it again because it's
super important. You want twin hard drives. You dumped the footage into
the first drive and then copy it over exactly the
same to the backup drive. They're twins of each other. You want a main drive
and a backup drive. Drives do fail from time to
time or someone drops it or something happens and it's a nightmare if you
don't have a backup. Trust me, main
drive, backup drive. Once the footage is copied off the cards and onto the drives, make sure you take the tape
off the card so you know that the card can now be
wiped and re-using again. Now I'd recommend reviewing some of the footage
from the day. Just check random clip
to see how they look, to see if the sound
was recorded properly. You'll often see from
reviewing the footage anything you might want to
do better than next day. Once we'd reviewed
the footage and made sure that it'd been
copied to both drives, we would wipe the cards
so that they'd be fresh and ready for the
shoot the next day. Now after all this is done, a really good habit
to get into is to put your equipment back
in the same place, whether it's a suitcase,
a pelican case, a backpack or whatever, and just check you
have everything. Things do get forgotten
or misplaced. It's a good idea to try and
find out as soon as you can so you can call
the place you were filming or run back
there and get it. We lost some stuff. It does happen, so
don't be so far. Among some of the stuff we
lost was our first top light. We had to go get another one. Believe it or not,
a few times we even forgot our main camera. One time we left it on
the floor at Walmart and thank God when we got back there he was still
sitting there. Getting the habit of checking your equipment and
taking good care of it. These are the tools of your
trade so look after them. Now that we had all the
batteries on charge, ingested the footage
and backed it up, checkout equipment
and packed it away, we were ready to go to bed
and start again the next day. We just keep repeating this workflow until
the end of the shoot. Now just a little
note about drives, what we do and we'd fill
it up and drive and the backup drive is post one of them back to
our parents place, this way we'd have one drive
and the other would be in a whole different
locations safe and sound. Now this might not be
the best system of getting one of the drives
to a different location. I used to live in a
country where you couldn't really trust
a mailing system because things that were
valuable would often go missing. I'm not going to say which country because I don't want to be *** pooing any
postwar systems here. But in some places that just not the best
way to go about it. My point is, is that
you should think about trying to get
one of the drives to a safe place in case
some of your stuff gets stolen or
something happens, at least you won't have lost both drives because
that'll be a huge tragedy. It actually makes me sick
even thinking about it. Anyway, that's
workflow ticked off, tick [MUSIC] Setup
a good workflow before you leave for a shoot, during the shoot,
and after the shoot. Once you've got a good
hang of the process, it'll just be a part of
your everyday system, keeping you in check so
your work is organized, efficient, and everything
goes smoothly. Charge everything every day. Even if it still has some
charge in the battery, do it. Check your equipment
before you leave either twice or by having two
people look over it, human error is a real thing. With SD cards, I prefer to
shoot on multiple cards with less storage rather than one
card with tons of storage. Because if that card corrupts, I'm going to lose a
whole bunch of work. Work out a tagging system for your SD cards and batteries. This will help you know
when batteries are charged, or need charging and
when SD cards have been used or are ready to wipe. Having organized folder
system ready for when you're dumping footage
on your hard drive. It's easy to think,
I'll do that later, but by the time
later rolls around, you could have a whole bunch of messy footage to rifle
through and organize. It's not a good time. Sort it out early and
make your life easy. I structured my folders
by shoot day and SD card. Don't take chances
with technology. Have two hard drives, one main drive and one backup. Dump all your footage on both so that they are exact replicas. Once you've used up
all the space on them, keep one with you and
send the backup to a far-off location where
it's going to be safe.
23. Production: Recording Sound: [MUSIC] People will abide by bad video, but they will not
abide by bad sound. Sound's what really separates an amateur production
from a professional one. People are used to bad
production quality when it comes to video, mainly due to the
reality show era. But sound is what
sets things apart. You really want to make sure
you're recording sound well. We only had two things with
us for the first season. A top microphone, and one lapel microphone. Two lapels would be great, one for each person, but one did just fine. Top mic first. Now, remember that for the top mic, you want that plus 48 phantom power setting
to make it work. Here's some examples of sound we recorded with just
the top microphone. We bought the two
things we need, we've got the six-pack
and the stun gun. [NOISE]. Here we sit at the dry ice
facility where we come once a month to pick off
about a ton of dry ice. If you must pick a
cost to fight for, I pray you pick this
one because Detroit won't last another
day without you. When you're using the top mic, just make sure that you're
nothing close to the person. The farther away you are, the crappy the sound
quality is going to be and that's what
you want to avoid. Then what we usually
did when we were doing an interview was we would put the lapel on the person we were interviewing
and then we'd use the top microphone
as a backup in case anything went
wrong with the lapel. He's an interview we did with a real-life superhero guy from one of our
episodes in Seattle. We've got the lapel on him and we're using the top
mic as a backup. This is the audio
from the lapel. When I realized I was
going to get serious, I went and looked up
online what I was going to need and it was about 10 grand, little short of 10 grand.
I was going to be a loan. This is the audio
from the top mic. When I realized I was
going to get serious, I went and looked up online
what I was going to need and it was about 10 grand,
little short of 10 grand. I was going to need a loan. You want to have both
so you can use one as a backup if the
other one is dodgy. When you're recording sound, whether it's through the
top mic or the lapel, make sure you're
wearing headphones. You have to monitor the sound. The last thing you want
to do is find out that the sound wasn't
recording properly, because that'll mess
you up big time later. You also need to be able to adjust the sound
as it's coming in. For example, if the
person starts talking really loudly or
not loudly enough. As you can see here
on the camera screen, this is the spot on my camera where the audio
levels are displayed. You want to make sure
that they're not tapping that top line because
once they pick out, then it doesn't matter
what you do in the edit, it's going to sound ****. You want the audio levels maxing out around
the last quarter. That way you have a
little room in case someone suddenly
talks a bit louder. Also a good thing to
grab is code at most. The sound mixer in the edit will potentially want this later. Basically, whenever you're doing an interview at the
end is get everyone to shut up for a minute and just record the sound
with no one talking. The sound of the room
or wherever you are. It's a good thing to have
up your sleeve for when you show is getting audio mix later. Look, we were pretty sketchy with sound
stuff when we started, but we got better
as we went along. You will too. It's pretty much like
everything in life. You start **** at it, and then you do it a bunch
and you get better at it. [MUSIC] Bad video
can be overlooked, but bad sound quality
definitely won't. You want to give sound
quality, it's due attention, but that doesn't mean
you have to invest in heaps of expensive equipment. We go by with just using a top microphone
and a lapel mic. This way we had two recordings
of the shooting case, one of them staffed on. If you can get your hands
on two lapels, even better. Always wear headphones
when recording sounds so that you
can keep an ear on how things are coming
out and whether you need to adjust audio levels. Record at least a minute of at most the sound of the room or location with no one talking for about a minute when you've
finished your interviews. You're always going to start out **** and improve with practice. Just keep going. [MUSIC]
24. Production: Lighting Tips: [MUSIC] I'm going to give you the
most basic lighting tips because I'm not a pro at
lighting by any means, so this is how we
approach lighting. When you're a
documentary filmmaker, especially when you're
working with a low budget, you're basically going to
be using whatever light is available to you
from existing sources. You'll be happy to know
that we never actually had a lighting kit
with us on production. We always use whatever light was available wherever we
were doing interviews. [MUSIC] The only light we ever had, which is what we use at night, was this little LED top light. Now when shooting
during the day, the best thing to do is to get someone to stand in
the shade if you can, like what I'm doing here. Direct sunlight can be
pretty tricky to expose for, but shade is a little bit more consistent and
easier to work with. Overcast days are good for
this too as the clouds diffuse the sun and make
the light more consistent. We're actually battling the
sun a little bit today. My wife is filming and the sun is going in and
out behind the clouds, and that could be
pretty annoying. If you are determined to
shoot out in the sun, then what I would recommend is you don't shoot in the
middle of the day. In the middle of the
day, the sun is going to be coming right from above. It's pretty intense and it's very difficult to expose for. What you want is the sun
coming from the side, so I'd recommend
morning or afternoon. A really good idea is to go to the location day
or two before to see where the sun
is going to be at certain times and see
what you're working with. A really good app that I would recommend is called Sun Seeker. You can get it on your phone and when you go to the location, it'll tell you exactly
where the sun is going to be coming from
at different times, so you will know exactly
what you're working with. Your other best friend
is going to be this guy, this is a standard old reflector that costs like 30 bucks. This is for if you want to reflect more
light onto your subject. I never know how to
fold these things up. [NOISE] Another handy piece
of gear which isn't vital, and is only going to be for
those of you who are using interchangeable lenses
is a variable ND filter. This is a filter that you
screw onto the end of your lens and you can control how much
light goes through. This is good for those
of you who want to keep that aperture open for nice
shallow depth of field, but still want to expose
properly for the sunlight. The way they work is they match up to the
size of your lens. See here on my Canon 24-105 lens is a number at the
end of the lens here, which tells me the
diameter of this lens. When I buy a variable ND filter, I buy one that is the same size. See here I have bought
one that matches this diameter and now I can screw it on and
it's ready to rock. A lot of lenses will have little
threads at the end to screw filters such as these on. When shooting at night,
we would do two things. The first is just use light from available sources
like street lights. This was good to create a street gritty feel
which suited the vibe sometimes like when
we were shooting with the real-life
superheroes in Seattle. The other thing we would
do is use a top light. In the first season, we just had this little LED top light that we used at night. In the second and third season, we got these bigger bad boy. [MUSIC] If it's too intense, I would recommend taping some baking paper over the
top to diffuse it a bit. That's it. That's
all we were doing. Really we were just
looking through the viewfinder on the
camera and trying to make things
look as good as we could with what
we had available. I'm sorry if you expected
more from this bit, but that's how we did it. I'm not a lighting guy. I do know that getting
the hang of good lighting can really amp up your
production value. But if you have very little idea about lighting like we did, then you're going to be
fine because we were fine.
25. Production: What to Film: [MUSIC] What do we need when
we're filming an episode? To be honest, it's
not rocket science, but it does start
to become a bit of an art once you get
the hang of it. For starters, film
heap is a ****. This isn't the old days
where you have to be careful of using
up expensive film. It's a digital era, so live it up, enjoy it. I like to use what I
call the condom theory. Better to have it and not need it than need it and not have it. When in doubt, just film it. We had about 200
hours of footage when we got home from our
first production trip. The finished product was
only six-half hour episodes. That's three hours of total
footage from 200 hours. Now in Series 2 and 3, we ended up becoming more
streamlined and more efficient. But the first time round, we didn't have too much of an idea of what we were doing, so we just filmed heaps. Now remember what I
said earlier about the two main elements
of a documentary, interesting interviews,
and interesting visuals. That's all there is to it. Generally one of our
stories would play out like this: We would
set up the location, show people where we were, the city, us driving
into the city, a crappy motel room, a quiet suburb, whatever the case may be,
we would shoot it. A good guide for each shot is to hold it for at
least five seconds. That just gives the editor
some time to play with. Don't get too excited
and just whip around, just chill a bit and hold
those shots for longer. Often we'd spend a few hours just getting shots of location. These shots are great to
have up your sleeve in case you need to cover
stuff in your edit. Then at some stage we would do a little introduction
piece to camera, telling the viewers
what was going on. We would just do them
a few times to be on the safe side and get
different styles and options. Sometimes funny stuff
would happen when we were doing it and
we'd just keep rolling. It can add character. This is a packet plant, 38 acres of now abandoned
semi-demolished, burned, graffitied property,
where they made luxury cars enclosed
in 58 apparently, and was for a time the most modern car factory in the world. We made it to Seattle. On the way, I had a horrible
pain in my stomach. Turns out my appendix might
rupture at any moment. I stopped in a hospital. They told me I should
see a surgeon. But I bought this suede jacket and nothing is stopping me from going on patrol with the Rains
City Superheroes tonight. I'm more kidded up
and I'm ready to go. We're going to hang
out with a girl named Ayla who does this for a living, and not get insider
into this world. Run. Keep left. Sweet driving. [LAUGHTER] If something significant
happens during the filming, feel free to give a
little piece to camera just to update the viewers. I'll show you what I mean. This is a time we were
filming an episode in Colorado and the car broke down. Our ******* car just exploded, so now we're riding in the
back of the truck with them. I don't know what we're
going to do about the car. When the superheroes
got a call over their radio that
shots had been fired. Shots fired. We got
a problem here. That's fine. This is Jones. I'm going to need all the details
possible on shots fired. Let's keep going, guys. We might hang back off
these dudes because shots have been fired and
that's not really my domain. We were hosting
the show and so we were the viewers guide
through the story. We'd try and keep them updated
about what was going on. That also helped
them to see more of their personalities as well. After we had set
the scene for where we were with shots
and a little intro, it was usually time to
meet our subjects or go to the place where
we were going to do the bulk of our filming. Now we needed to
set the scene here. If you're at someone's house, maybe meet them first and then show some things
about the place. The viewer is really keen to get an idea of the person
you're interviewing, so you need to start giving
them that information. The same way you would
be if you were in someone's house
for the first time or in someone's office. You'd look at all the
things around you to try and get the
information you're after. So give it to the viewer. You're their eyepiece. Show them the
pictures on the wall, the inspirational quote on
the fridge, all that stuff. Start setting the scene
so they can start profiling the person
that lives there. Film their books, the way
the kitchen is organized, the picture of them scuba diving in some tropical location. Just film it all. If you get somewhere
and there's stuff going on like a
party or something, and you know that the
interviews can wait till later, just start filming the action. Things might not go to plan. Sometimes you just have
to change the plan. When we got to the real-life
superhero guys in Seattle, they were ready to jump into the action and go on patrol, so we just started
filming and ended up doing interviews with them
the next day instead. When we got to an anarchist
skater colony in Ohio, there were some
crazy party study, so we just jumped
right in and started filming the party
to get good vision, and then we got the
interviews later. Just a little note, try to
keep the camera rolling, even if weird **** is going on. By this I mean that even if **** is getting a bit too real, just try and film it anyway. You don't have to use it, but it's better to
have the option. An example of this is when we
had to give a statement to the police in Seattle after witnessing some
domestic violence. 1701. Your name? Parvo. Thank you gentlemen. When some guy tried to fight
us at the gathering of the jugglers and some other guy stepped in and defended us. You better calm down. **** you in your
microphone *****. [BACKGROUND] We kept the camera
rolling and both bits really helped to set the
scene or tell the story. Don't do it if you're going
to be in serious danger, just use some sound judgment. When you're filming,
try and get heaps of different shots all
in the same area. Get close-ups, mid shots, shots from a far, arty shots of the rain
falling on the ground. Don't worry about
trying to follow some film school template
of how to compose a shot, experiment and get creative. Get really close fog
at weird angles, get above, get below, find the things you like. Give yourself lots
of different types of shots to use when
you're editing. Variety is the spice of life. This goes for whoever the
subject is for the episode. Film them walking, driving, doing stuff, film an
interview with them, but also film an interview with them while they're
walking or driving, get lots of variety. Variety is great
and it makes for an interesting episode and therefore an interesting
show to watch. But we'll cover interviewing
techniques in a later video. I think the best way to see the approach we took
to production is by taking you through
a small segment that we filmed and showing
you what we did, the things we filmed, the way we filmed it, and then at the end you can see the finished product that we
edited out of that footage. Let's get into that
in the next video. But just remember
at the crux of it, you're trying to get
interesting interviews and interesting visuals. [MUSIC]
26. Production: Frozen Dead Guy Segment: In this video, I'm going to take you through all the raw footage we shot for a small segment of our show
we call the Frozen Dead Guy. This is when we found out that there was a dead guy being kept cryogenically frozen in a little shed on someone's property
in the mountains. We found out that this other guy was being paid to keep laying fresh ice on the dead dude to keep him at the
right temperature. We managed to get
in contact with the ice laying dude and he said we could come
along and film it. Here we go. Every single shot that we filmed for that segment. Buckle in and then I'll show you the finished piece we
edited in the next video. Here we go. I'm going to take you through
every single clip. I'm not going to
take you through the full length of each clip because we'd be
here for two hours, but I'm just going to show you each clip and explain
what was going on. We hadn't actually filmed
with these guys before. We hadn't even met them. We were going to film
and meet them all at the same time filming the
adventure as it was going. The first clip that we did
was an intro to the camera, made explaining
what was going on, that we'd heard
about a guy who was frozen in a back
shed in Colorado. He'd be in kept cryogenically
frozen and that there was these guys keeping him frozen that had
been paid to do it. We met them at the
cryogenic facilities. Here is a shot of us at the
cryogenic facility with him, that we're going to
be leaving soon, so we didn't have
much time there. We quickly shot a
few shots just to establish that we're at
a cryogenic facility, liquid nitrogen, etc. Then we did a piece to
camera with the main guy. He explained what was going on, that they come here to
this cryogenic facility, they load the ice. He's got his daughter and
another guy that help him. We quickly did a shot of that. Then we jumped in the car. We started filming them
through the windscreen, just filming them as they go up this mountain to a
place called Nederland, we just shoot stuff
out the window, getting lots of scenery shots. Set the scene of where we are, more stuff out the windows, scenery, more filming, then driving just
through the windscreen. Then we add a little problem. Our car suddenly broke
down, stopped working. We filmed that happening. Me looking ****** off. Us not really sure
what's going on. The coolant system seems to
be exploding everywhere. We hopped in the back of
their truck, we left the car. I just did a little
piece to camera saying, basically that our
car had broken down. We had no idea what
we're going to do. Then we just jumped
in with them. Then we started filming from
the back of their truck. We filmed the tub
of the dry ice. Ourselves, just
cruising the wind, sweeping our hair. More scenery. Lot's of more scenery. So much scenery. The open road, us living free in
the back of the Ute. Loving life, living free. We were cruising next to a lake, so we filmed a lake. Then we stopped at this
town and the main guy was just explaining
to us a little bit about the town that
we stopped in. He showed us this
old bulldozer thing that apparently had been used to build the Panama
Canal or something. Then we just kept
driving through the town and kept
going up the mountain. More scenery shots. Then we finally got there. We got out and filmed them, driving up and driving
back to the shed where apparently the dead
guy was being kept. Then the main guy Bauge, he
took us on a little tour of the property just
telling us a few things. Then we did an interview
with him where he started explaining his job and how this all happened and just
explaining how he came to be laying ice on this frozen guy that's
kept in the shed. He showed us the main house. Then we did another
interview with him. Quite a long interview, again telling us the details
that he was getting paid by the family to keep their grandfather who had frozen himself and was
in his back shed. The property was abandoned. There was no one there. He just comes up every few
weeks to lay the ice. He told us about that
and his philosophy, and a bit of background and just lots of questions and
it was the main interview. Then once I was done, we started unloading the ice, just filmed the guys
unloading the dry ice, opening the dry ice, and then him opening the shed. Then telling us a little bit about what's going on in there. Showing us the box
where the guy's kept, showing us a liquor cabinet, showing us picture of the guy. Then the grand reveal, he opens up this big box. I thought I was going
to see a dead guy, but actually the
dead guy's inside this sarcophagus thing and they just lay the ice around it. I was a bit disappointed but a bit relieved at the same time. We were just filming
all of that. He shows us that there
is a little thermometer, so we film that. He shows us that they keep some birthday cake for the guy. Have all these
weird little jokes. He showed us the birthday cake. Filmed that. Filmed the
picture of the guy up close. Then they start
unloading the dry ice. We just filmed that. Filmed them stacking the ice. Just keep filming it, we're just going forward like them putting the ice there, this little sarcophagus,
us helping out. Packing the dry ice. More shots of the
sarcophagus thing, all misty. More helping. Just more laying ice. Little stuff that they
keep around the shed, little funny frozen dead
guy related things. Just more unloading of
ice, different angles. A bit farther away, gets some shot diversity. Here's some instructions
about dry ice. More shots to the dry ice. Him putting in some
ice, them laying ice. He would tell us
interesting facts as we were going along, so we would just film
him talking every time he had something
interesting to say or even just when he said something in
case it was interesting. Then just more
shots of the truck. Then there's inside the liquor cabinet that
they had in there. Filming that because
it was funny, they had some Dilbert comics
and other bits and pieces. Then again, he
would just tell us interesting little facts
or just say some stuff, so we would film that. Just film around the place. More him telling us
stuff so we would just keep the camera rolling. Me helping, what a helpful guy. Banging into people. More filming. Same stuff. Then a shot of the
house that's on the property that's abandoned, a bit farther away, different angles,
underneath a bit. Then they had this little
ritual way afterwards, after they had laid ice
they would do a little shot of some alcohol. We filmed that. They'd use some dry
ice so it looks cool. We were going to do
the shots with them. There is Gonzo doing his shot. There is the other guys
doing their shots. Me doing my shot. It's pretty strong that stuff. Then him putting the
last bits of ice in. Then they close the box. Just filming them close the box. Then filming him saying as he was closing that he would never get himself
cryogenically frozen. He felt is a waste of money, which we felt was really funny because he's the guy
who gets paid to do it. Then after that, he took us
on a tour of the house on the property and
showed us inside. I didn't think we used
any of this stuff, but that was what was
happening at the time. So we just filmed it. We didn't know what we were going to use. He's just showing
me it's inside. So we'd film all
the little bits and pieces as he was
telling us stuff. It's shirts and more decorations and things around the house. Outside, his daughter was telling us some stuff
about how the house was built and then a little
bit more about the house. Then some shots of the view. Another shot of the view. Then some shots of the
stickers on his truck to say go to a bit
of a vibe for him. More stickers on the
truck, just some vibe. Then the next thing
on the way down, they took us to this
little carousel, the carousel of happiness. We had a little ride
on this carousel. We didn't end up using this, but it was fun at the time, so we just filmed it. Then on the way back down, they showed us a dam
and we filmed that too. I don't think we used it either, but we just filmed it in case. Condom theory. That's it. That's everything that we
filmed for that segment. So here is the piece
that we edited from the segment that went
into our finished show. The town folk [inaudible]
told us about some dead that has been cryogenically frozen in the town called Netherlands. So we're going to
go check it out. We're meeting up with
the head cryogenicist. Apparently they're
replacing the ice on these dead dude who froze himself in the
'80s or something. Some Norwegian cracker. Here we sit at the dry ice
facility where we come once a month to pick off
about a ton of dry ice. We've got our two containers
on the back of the truck. We've got our personnel
to help load and unload. It usually takes two of
us and a truck capable of carrying a ton of
ice once a month. This is our job. We've been
doing it for 18 years. My ******* car just exploded. Now we're riding in the back
of the truck with them. I don't know what we're
going to do about the car. A frozen dead guy, otherwise known as Burrito
Morris aka grandpa. He died in Norway
about 25 years ago. They had him shipped to
the West Coast of America, to Los Angeles at one of the cryonic facilities
where they preserved him, and did everything necessary
to him and got him ready. They kept in there
for a year or two. Then his son [inaudible], came here, bought this
piece of property, started to build all
this stuff on it, and then moved his father from
Los Angeles into the shed. When [inaudible] was deported, he had his friends
doing the ice for about six months and then they got tired of doing it
and he lucked into me and I've been taking
care of him ever since. We bring up about a ton
of ice once a month, and it maintains our
cryogenic temperatures at about a minus 109 Fahrenheit, and it keeps our frozen
grandpa in a state that should be okay until he's
ready to be fixed. Ready. Inside. This is grandpa's sarcophagus. Well, actually this is his cryonic chamber and
sarcophagus inside here. There's a picture of
the gentleman up there, what he used to look
like when he was alive. Now, we try to keep
some comedy things here and there about cryogenics. This is his supply cabinet. He likes to invite people in for drinks and stuff like that. There he is. This is his case. They believe the soul is intimately tied up with
the physical body. When a physical body dies and deteriorates, the
soul goes away. If you put this physical
body back together again, the soul will come back into it. Temperature at minus 70,
something like that. That's always good. We've got our ice cream and cake here
for where we have parties. This is his millennium
birthday cake. We got for him back in 2000. You can see it's still
got burrito on it. We saved the last piece of
his cake with his name on it. We don't have to
be philosophically aligned with the client
to be able to perform. He believes that and I don't
know maybe he's right. I don't know. I really
don't think so, but maybe he's right. Meanwhile, we maintain this. If we make a couple
of bucks at doing it, then he's got the
money to do this because it's his
belief, his philosophy. So who are to argue. That's why he's in America. America is the
land for the free. All right grandpa here is the last piece. Find appropriate place for it. Prefect. As low as possible, all the ice is as
low as possible. Put on our little
air control device. Can I get one too? Sure. It's the ice coldness of it, you don't even feel it. Did you ever consider being
cryogenically frozen? No. Why? Waste of time and money.
27. Production: Being on Camera: [MUSIC] Just to note
about being on camera, if you're planning to be a host, being on camera feels
really weird at first. I used to hate it and I'd be really weird in front of the
camera at the beginning. It's really awkward and stiff. I found the two
things helped me. First, you got to just
practice hits and you'll slowly get more comfortable
in front of the camera. Second, I found that if I was doing something while talking, it would really help
me loose some of my stiffness and awkwardness. By that, I mean say
walking or driving, just doing something instead
of standing right in front of the camera and talking
straight down the barrel. It would help me
seem more natural. It's like how if you're at a party and you're
talking to someone, it feels more comfortable
to have a drink in your hand or a
cigarette or something. Or if you're on a date
and you're eating a meal or drinking
coffee instead of just sitting opposite
each other and not doing anything and try and
have a conversation. It's just too intense and
weird unless you have something to diffuse
your attention. Hopefully, that helps you
loosen up a little bit. But the more you practice, the more you start to relax and seem like a normal
person in front of the camera instead of some
weird malfunctioning robot. [MUSIC]
28. Production: Storytelling: [MUSIC] An important part of anything we
film is the story. A filmmaker in my opinion
is basically a storyteller, no different to
someone sitting around a campfire thousands
of years ago, entertaining people
with a great story. When we were filming our
episodes about different things, there was always a story that became evident at some point. It's our job to try and
translate that story to the viewer by asking the right questions
in the interviews, capturing the right vision
and all that stuff. I feel like there are
two main elements to any story we were doing. There's a surface element and then there's
the deeper element. A really good story has both. Stories can still be cool
with just a surface element, take the one I showed
you where we went and laid eyes on that dead guy. That was a surface story really. It's still fun to watch
and good viewing, but if you really want to leave
people feeling like there was something special
about your piece, then you've got to get
the deeper element. Now I'll walk you through
some of our episodes so you get an idea of
the surface stuff and the deepest stuff that I'm
talking about when you're finding a story. Example 1. We went and filmed at the
gathering of the juggalos. Now juggalos are fans of the
band the Insane Clown Posse. People call them white trash, social outcasts, the
FBI calls them a gang, and the gathering
of the juggalos is basically this big
music festival they have every year with thousands of them
amass in one place, and basically have a huge party. The surface level of
this story is how weird and gross and
crazy at all is, and how demented it all
looks to an outsider. But the deeper level
was how these crew are social outcasts
where they come from, but here they find a community
and a sense of belonging. In the outside world,
everyone is judging them, but here they find
acceptance and camaraderie. That's something we
can all relate to; that feeling of wanting
to belong to a community. Really anybody who's
ever felt like they were outcasts or the downtrodden, well, society is trash. We're real sick of it, so we decided to band together
and we started a club, and we said what
would be a neat name? Juggalos. That's
what it's all about. When they come
here and they have these people just like them, they are also into it. You know you're not alone. It's like a sigh of relief
beyond comprehension. Example 2. When we went and filmed
with the gay voguers, the surface level was that there's a scene
in New York where gay and transgender black
and Latino men would come together to have
these amazing dance offs. But the deeper level was
that many of them had been thrown out of their homes
or rejected by society, but here they found a
place where they could belong and where
they felt valued. We cannot just
walk in the street every day with the costume on because we have a
whole bunch of people judging us, gay bashing us. Most of us come out to the
board room to enjoy the night, have fun, be ourselves, and also certain
people they only have this to come to cause
they don't have nothing. They lost family, shelter, everything, so this is like their
highlight of their life. Example 3. In our Detroit episode, the surface level was that the city looked like **** hole. There's abandoned
buildings everywhere that look cool in
a messed up way, and the city is
basically bankrupt. But the deeper level of
this story was that there's all these people banding
together in Detroit, ignoring the doom and gloom, rolling up their sleeves to rebuild their broken city from the ground up and
not waiting for the government to come
in and save them. They're doing it all themselves and it was really inspiring. It filled me with a
really nice buzz. It is exciting. A little scary, but Detroit is full of
movers and shakers, and they all don't have zillions of dollars
in their pockets. But it doesn't mean they're
not moving and shaking. There are blocks in Detroit now that I'm aware
of that where they ring a bell and they actually commune for
dinner in the alley. They've made makeshift tables and everything and
they cook together, and they potluck, and
people are realizing that that is what it's going to take to restore
our neighborhoods. I think the future for the
city is basically great. Truthfully, I think we
about the blow back up. I think Detroit is
really about to be the epicenter
to the earthquake. Example 4. When we were in Chicago, we filmed with these
gangster rappers. Now the surface level
was that there's this cool hip-hop
scene in the heart of Chicago's roughest
neighborhoods. For an Ozzie like me, it was pretty cool to
be hanging out with these legit gangster rappers like I've seen in the movies. But the deeper level was
that these guys were working really hard to get out of
some ****** situations, trying to turn a lot of
negativity into something positive and also trying to be good role models for the
kids in their neighborhoods. It was really cool to witness. I definitely know I'm going
to inspire some kids. Some of the younger youth. Shout out to the little G's. I grew up on the
low end of Chicago. It wasn't perfect, but I went through it. Violence has always been around, so just trying to get myself
to do something positive. You see there's a surface level, and then there's
the deeper level. The surface level is usually
what the people are doing, the deeper level is usually
what people are feeling. When you get people
to connect with deep universal feelings like wanting to belong,
to feel loved, to make a better life for
yourself or loved ones, those are the kinds of
things people can relate to. When you hit people
right here in the heart, that's when you've
told a good story. [MUSIC] Most stories have two
elements, surface and deep. The surface level of a
story is what's going on, what people are doing, and the deeper level is
what's driving those actions, what people are feeling. To be a great filmmaker and
therefore a storyteller, you need to access the
deeper level behind every story and hit your
audience with the feels. [MUSIC]
29. Production: Interviewing: [MUSIC] Because we were making
a documentary series, interviewing was
pretty important because it was basically the core of constructing any story that we
were trying to tell. Now, just a little note, anyone who we interviewed
had to sign a release form. Remember those forms
I gave you before? Really good to get into the habit of using them
because it'll cover your *** later if someone gets ****** off at you
that you filmed them. Now, I really like to interview people a couple of
times if possible. The reason is that sometimes
I think of good questions later after mulling over the first interview
we would've done. They may have said something that made me want to know more but I didn't really pick up on it properly the first time. We like to interview
more than once if we could to get
more good content. Also, we'd make sure we'd
interview the person in a different location each time so then it's visually
more interesting. An example is an
interview we did with this anarchist
skateboard guy in Ohio. We interviewed him sitting down. The full potential of an
individual's creativity. We interviewed him in his room. Showing here I do my research, I got my literature, lots of different books,
lots of really old books. We interviewed him
while he was giving us a tour of the place, Which is probably a little bit
messy right now because we also de-junking out
front if you'd look. It just gave us lots
to work with and makes it visually more engaging. Now, if you have an extra camera while you're
interviewing someone, then film other
things about them. It could be a different angle of their face that you can cut to, their hands, feet, anything. If you don't have another camera then just get them to stay still after the interview
so you can film some stuff about them
for a few minutes. It could be a badge on
their hat, some tattoos, jewelry, things like that, so what should you
be asking them? Well, everything.
Just go for it. We would write a
list of questions we had thought of
and ask those but if they say interesting
stuff during the interview then
explore that a bit. It's okay to go on tangents. The big mistake I used
to make was trying to stick to the questions
I'd written down. I wouldn't really be listening
to what they were saying. I was just waiting to
ask the next question, and so as a result
I'd sometimes miss really interesting
stuff that they were saying and the chance to
explore that a bit further. Now, Gonzo, one of
the other guys from the show was much
better at this than me, and I eventually got a bit
better by watching him. The main lesson was to
really listen to what the other person was
saying, be present, try not to wander
off in your mind, be there and listen and try and flow with what
they're saying a bit. If things fizzle
out then you can always go back to your
list of questions, and remember the storytelling
video from before. If you've picked up on
an interesting story in the situation, then make sure you ask
relevant questions during your interview
to back that story up. Now often we'd ask heaps of questions and film
with someone for ages and then only use a fragment of the
answers in our episodes. But like I've said before, it's the condom theory, better to have it and not need it than need it and not have it. The next video is
the raw footage of one of our interviews, the uncut interview so
you can get an idea of the way in which we were
conducting our interviews. It might be a bit boring to have such a long video but you can just skip around to have a look. I just think it's handy to have something to watch
as a reference. The next video
after that will be some quicker examples
of interviews we did just see you can get
a bit of an idea of the different ways you
can conduct interviews. [MUSIC] Get your
release forms signed. It only takes a second and
it will save your *** later. It's good to try and arrange for at least two interviews
with your subjects. This way you can ask
about anything that pops into your head after
the initial interview. If you can try to film
each interview in a separate location to get
some different visuals. Try to get some unique
shots of the person, be it a cool ring, a tattoo, their face from a
different angle, these are great shots to
use for editing later. Don't be too rigid
about sticking to your script and
list of questions. Let the interview be fluid and dynamic and let the subject guide you down different
thought patterns and conversations. Your questions are
there for you to return whenever you need to. You never know what
could come out of an interview so try to let
go of some of that control. Also, pay full attention to what your subject is
saying so that you can respond and bounce off what
they say instead of just mechanically reading your
next question like a robot. [MUSIC]
30. Production: Raw Interview Example: [MUSIC] Here's the raw footage of the interview we
did with the leader of the real-life superheroes
in Seattle, Phoenix Jones. Ready? So first up is who
are you and what do you do. I'm Phoenix Jones. I'm the leader of the Rain
City Superhero Movement. It's a 10-15 member citizen
crime prevention group. How did this all come about? Wow. [LAUGHTER] It
started three years ago. I got my car broken
into and someone left a glass on the
ground and me and my son were running
back to my car. He tripped and fell on the
glass and cut his leg open. So I was bleeding everywhere, so I covered up the cut
and I told someone to call 911 and this guy comes running up to me with his
camera phone on me, and I'm like,
"Perfect, call 911." He goes, "I can't,"
I said "Why?" and he goes, "Because it'll
ruin my YouTube clip." [LAUGHTER] I realized that
that's what America is. It's a bunch of people who are
more excited about posting YouTube videos than
helping people. That's when I decided I
was going to trick them. I'm going to post
YouTube videos that trick people into
understanding that they should be doing something
more with their time. How did you come up
with the character or the alter ego of Phoenix Jones? How did I come up
with the alter ego or the different [OVERLAPPING] character of Phoenix Jones? Well, Phoenix is
a mythical bird. It dies and it rises
from the ashes. It's always reborn.
I like that idea, it comes back stronger, and that's what I
thought it was like. Through tragedy I'm going
to come back stronger. Jones is the most common
last name in America. So when I put them together, I realized that has a good
ring and title to it. It was a lot of evolution. Originally the first
Phoenix Jones, if I can go back
in time and take Phoenix Jones three
years ago and introduce him to
Phoenix Jones now, they wouldn't get along. The first Phoenix Jones was very violent and very exact justice. Then as I learned the legal
laws and got lawyers and got more famous I realized that I need to do this a better way. Now you've got the
legal Phoenix Jones which can allow a camera
crew like yourself to do a documentary whereas before I couldn't even
acknowledge that I existed. How long have you
been doing it for now? It's three years, is it? It's about three years.
The immersion of Phoenix Jones into the main
populous and everything like that happened on
November 19th, 2010. That was how I got discovered. I broke up a knife fight
and I got stabbed and I wasn't able to get out of
there before the police came, so they had to fill
out a police report and the news got wind of it. It started going
pretty crazy then. You obviously get yourself into some pretty hectic situations. What training do you have
to deal with the scenarios? What kind of training
do I have? I think it's besides common sense which is funny because coming from a guy in a rubber suit, the first thing you'd
think of would be, this guy has tons
of common sense. But you need to know
when to get involved and when not to get involved
right off the gate. But I have three black belts through different
types of martial arts, over 25 professional mixed
martial arts cage fights. I have years of
military ROTC training. I come from a long line of military and family friends
who were in the military. I also have blood
borne pathogens, CPR, Community Response
Training, CERT; Community Emergency
Response Training. I was active in a
small auxiliary of the air force called
Civil Air Patrol. I reached a pretty
high rank in that and I almost got an
Eagle Scout as well. Now, you just
mentioned your family. Do all your family
know what you do? What do they think about it? Well, now they know what I do. Originally it was weird. I'm just getting you
to say my family. My family knows what I do now. Originally it was just my mom and the only reason she knew is because I needed a co-signer to get a loan to
make my new suit. When I realized I was
going to get serious I went and looked up
online what I was going to need and it was about a
little short of 10 grand. I was going to need a loan. So I went to my mom
and I said, "Hey, [LAUGHTER] I need you to
co-sign a loan for me to buy some bullet proof gear." She wasn't too excited about it, she thought I was kidding and
we're signing the loan for the thing and they're asking me because it's
a line of credit, they're asking me what
I intended to use it for and I said, "I'm
going to buy a car." Mom goes, "Good, I thought
you were going to buy a bulletproof," and we laughed
and then I left and I said, I'm really going to
buy a bulletproof. It was this funny look
at each other moment. So how does your mom feel now and then the
rest of your family, do they worry about
what you're doing on the weekends going out and fighting crime? Are they
worried for your safety? Well, my whole family and my mom are a little
bit worried but now that I've been doing
it for so long they know that I can handle myself. At the beginning they
were much more nervous. I would call them
and be like, hey, this happened or this happened, they'd be pretty nervous. Now they really understand it because I've been
doing it for so long. [BACKGROUND] After the FBI called my parents and told them they believe in what I do and Homeland Security and
this police department, it explained I'm not crazy. Yeah. Which is good [LAUGHTER]. Sorry. [LAUGHTER]. You mentioned before you
have been stabbed once. Can you to talk us
through some of the craziest things I
guess that you've experienced while
you've been doing this? The craziest things about patrol are not so much what happens, it's what happens
when it's over. You get shot at, you
hide and you duck the bullets and then you
go after the bad guy. Then afterwards you're
like, I just got shot at. Stabbings are totally different and that's what
changes the game up. Because once you get stabbed, even if you fix the problem the knife is still
most likely in you. [LAUGHTER] Then you've
got to figure out, do I go to the hospital? Do I get stitches? How
do I get the knife out? I'm bleeding all over
my Kia of Justice. You're just bleeding
everywhere. It sucks. Most of that is preparation. Before my first date
with my wife actually, I had gotten stabbed
the night before. [LAUGHTER] I didn't want to miss the date so I glued it
shut and came to the date which was funny because I
ended up gluing myself inside my own super suit because I fell asleep in it so the suit
was glued to my body. I called her and I'm
like, I know it's our first date but I want to let you know that I'm going to
come dressed as a superhero. You can wear a mask if you want. Actually I didn't tell
her I got stabbed. I said I'm just glued in my suit. Left it alone. We're
having dinner, we're having a great time. I started laughing and I
started leaking blood under the tablecloth into [LAUGHTER] the suit because the
stitches ripped open. I'm thinking, well, this is
a great way to ruin a date. But she was really cool, went out in the back alley and I took my shirt off and
she actually helped me glue it back shut
and we finished the date and that's
when I was like, yeah, this is going to work. This is the one. [LAUGHTER] This is going
to work. If you can glue my stomach shut,
we're going to make it. We were on patrol
with you last night actually and we came across, there was a pretty obviously tragic thing that
happened recently that you were on the scene with the girl that
got shot and passed away. Yes sir. Can you talk us through that? Was that probably one of
the worst things that's happened since you guys
have been doing this? What's so frustrating
about that one is I've seen a lot
of bad things, it's hard to quantify
what's worse. What's worse for me
is that I go within, if this is the bad guy, I got within this distance of the guy and I could
have taken him out, I could've tackled him. The reason I became
a superhero and not a police officer is to make my own decisions, to
make my own choices. I had a chance to make my own
choice and as I'm doing it, someone told me to stop and I
listened. Then he got away. Everybody is like, you
did the right thing. You listened to the police
when they told you to stop, but being a superhero is about
me choosing what's right, about my own code. What governs your
own code of ethics? How did you develop your code
of ethics for what you do? Basically everybody's moral
compass has their own, how they judge right or
wrong is their own thing. Originally my right
or wrong was, if you're doing
something that's wrong, I'm going to beat you
up and that's right. After a while I
realized I'm not making a difference really because I'm not going to be everywhere. I can't do this for
the rest of my life. I started thinking
about who are some of the people who've
made large impacts. I looked at Martin Luther
King, I looked at Gandhi, I looked at really large
political figures, really large activists. What I realized they have
in common is that they're dead and we're talking
about what they did. No one is going to
talk about what I did if I'm just beating people up and hiding in a bush.
No one is going to get it. Ten years from now when
I'm gone it's over. I decided I'm going to inspire everyone to step up to
crime when they see it. That's going to be my legacy. So what I did is I
set out on a campaign to make sure that my
exploits were noted, tagged, and basically exploited for the
good that they are. When I did that, people
looked and they said, they have to make a
choice immediately. They have to say either I'm
with him or I'm against him. If you're against me you've got people go, "So what
are you against? You're against standing
up for your citizens?" If you're with me, you have to make the choice when
you see a crime to say, I'm going to step in and
I'm going to be a man. I'm going to stop
this. Just that is making a huge difference. What has been the public
reaction to what you're doing? [LAUGHTER] That's a
hard thing to gauge. So where are we up to, public's reaction, getting
the public reaction. Yeah, you can't gauge
the public's reaction. Sometimes people will
walk up to me and they're hyperventilating and
they're so excited to see me that they literally
have to sit down. I've got other
people who think I'm bat **** crazy and they're like, "Dude, you are out
of your mind." I've got the media
people sometimes who think I'm cool
depending on what I did and other times
think I'm over the top. But the best part about all of it is that they're
talking about me. They're striking up a
conversation which is saying, this guy thinks he's
fighting crime. What do you think? Which is bringing crime to the forefront. When I first started
patrolling Belltown there was one cop in Belltown.
What was his name? Officer Garcia, one cop. [LAUGHTER] I asked, I said man, you make a difference
here and he said, "It's hard man. I'm one cop." Now, 13. Why? Because it's not good to have your town
on the cover of the newspaper mass superhero breaking up crime.
Police don't like that. Because they don't like
that they're forced to patrol there and because they're forced to control there, crime has dropped
down 25 percent. I'm not going to
say 25 percent of it is mine but I'm
going to say that I made a difference completely and the people of Belltown
know I made a difference. A good example was last night, the crime that we broke up and
caught on tape last night. Did you guys catch the
news article about it? No. Yeah, it was on the news and it was on another article and the police responded
by saying that they would step up patrols
there tonight. Well, that's a direct response
to what we did yesterday. They can deny all they want until you put the facts in
their face and the facts are, I walk around the street and
whether I find crime or not, people are under the illusion
that I do find crime, and because they
believe in that, the police are forced to
do something about it. I force their hand. [NOISE]. So we touched on
public reaction. How do the police react
to what you guys do? [LAUGHTER] It really depends. I think the official
response from the Seattle Police
Department for a long time was that I didn't exist. Then after a video
arose where I had to prove I existed their response was they don't work with us. But here's the thing. If you're a citizen
and you call the 911 and you tell them, hey, there's a crime taking
place and the cops don't do anything,
that's a crime. So if I call 911, the cops show up and they stop what I'm
telling them is a crime. They work with me whether
they like it or not. They just don't endorse
me. You know what I mean? Yeah, exactly. Now, what equipment do you
normally get around with? I carry a bunch of
different stuff. It really depends on
what I'm going to be doing on patrol. Everybody's got a different
assortment of stuff. I just have my pepper
spray tonight. I've got bullet proofing
inside the suit which is the most important. I've got my pepper
sprays on the outside, I've got the 911 cell phone, a live streaming camera that'll plugin right over
here like this, and then I've got
my GoPro camera. The most important thing
I can do on patrol though is get good video
footage because the police are going to swoop
in there and they're going to tell me to back off and they're going to try
to handle the crime. But when it comes down
to the come down, they need footage,
they need evidence. That's the only way crimes
gets solved is by evidence. Plus this cool impact shock breastplate
in the center here, I've got a bullet proofing
Kevlar by weave underneath, then a big metal plate on the chess piece right
here on top of that. When you punch it it absorbs
a lot of the impact. I want to show them, go ahead. Give it a good one though.
Make it a real shot buddy. Real shot, hard as you
can. [NOISE] No man. [NOISE] Nothing. [NOISE] Nothing. Nothing. You know what I'm saying? It hurts, your hands? Yeah. So that's what's up. [OVERLAPPING] So I guess a lot of people see what you guys are doing and their first thoughts for this guy is to comics
and superhero movies, I was wondering if you yourself, are you a fan of comics and superhero movies growing
up or are you still? Yes and no. I'm a
big fan of comics. It would be foolish to say
that I wasn't a fan of comics. But I think what I do transcends
like people who look at comic books because originally I did this without
really a suit, just more of just the gear. But walking around in
bulletproof gear is foolish. You just get stopped
by the police and it doesn't really work. So I took something,
an iconography that people knew and already existed and stood for something good and I made it my own. That's why I embody the
vision of a superhero. I think if people
were enamored by scuba divers or
enamored by firemen, if they wore a mask I could've
been one of them as well. It was just what people
looked at and said, that's a good guy and I
took it and made it my own. [MUSIC]
31. Production: Ways to Interview: [MUSIC] Here's some more
examples of interviews we did. You can get an idea of the diverse ways you can
conduct an interview. It's a new normal. It's another thing
that you have to do. This is life we all go
through different things. As I get older and
you meet more people. This is inspiring to be
around and there's a lot of good energy and good vibes. Going about the city. Naked by [inaudible]. Yeah. I'm going to walk around
and while walking around, I'm on a phone
like, look, there's two mother ******* in a ditch. [LAUGHTER] Can you come
and help by the ditch? You know what I'm saying? Sillu. You're going
to want to get late. Its not late. He
didn't generally don't leave your town to go. We've had conversations
about the world. And everybody's
huddled around him and he's telling us a story. This thing just
scared him in what it was he described
it as a ring of fire? All I know is from
Paris, his burden. I saw that film like this, as much knowledge about the
past of it that I do have. What are you doing to relax? What book you are reading now? Yeah, I'm reading right now James Patterson's toys normally every my iPad and I like play games with other people
on it or have Netflix. Some bodies have just been
demolded for the most part. We have a big track here that we rotate the bodies around. What would you like to say
to them about their hang-ups and negative opinions
towards ****? I mean, it's really not
what you think it is. Is eye contact okay? Actually, I like eye contacts. I mean, personally, I do not
do a lot of pull tricks. One because I bruise
easily and who wants that? Can you describe it to them in what makes Portland unique? I think a lot of things
make Portland unique. DIY style, make this a
friendly and inviting place. Again, we're stuff's
going on and people can route for the project and
see cool things happening, even though we don't
have a ton of money. If I don't keep doing this, it's going to happen
to more people. Next time I might be able
to help somebody [MUSIC].
32. Production: Note on Directing: [MUSIC] Look, a quick
word about directing. If you're the director of
a segment or an interview, it's time to get decisive. The director is there to make
the final call on things. When the crew ask
a director, "Hey, should we film the
interview under the tree or on the bench?" There's usually no right answer. You've just got to make
a call the bench or let's shoot 30 seconds at each and see which
one looks better. The minute you start
getting all wishy washy, not sure everyone's going
to start chiming in. Maybe we should do this, maybe we should do that and then it can get like herding cats. If you're in that role
it's time to start being decisive and standing
by your decisions. You'll make some wrong
decisions sometimes, but you'll learn from that. But if you're planning on being a director more in your
film-making career, learn how to make quick
calls on things and not second guessing
yourself all the time. And look, I've directed a bunch of shoots for
a bunch of places now and I still
second-guess myself all the time. But you know what? I'll just keep it to myself and I pretend I
know what I'm doing. By doing this it seems most people I work
with get fooled into thinking I know what
I'm doing too so the act works.
Just give it a go.
33. Production: Photos: [MUSIC] Look, take lots of
photos while you're filming. The higher quality, the better. This will come in handy later down the line when you're
promoting the show, but it's also great
for social media. At the very least, take some nice portrait-style photos of people you're filming with. You'll never regret it. Actually, when we sold
our show to The Network, they asked for a few photos from each episode as part
of our deliverables, so it's just a
handy thing to do. Even if it's just to look back home when you're old and crusty, remembering the good
times when you went off and chased your dreams
with your mates. [MUSIC]
34. Production: Social Media: [MUSIC] Don't forget to keep doing fun stuff
on your social media. If you can't be bothered, make little videos from the
stuff you've been shooting. Like 30 to 60-second videos. Post cool photos, and just
find fun stuff to do. We were posting the
online reviews of crappy motels that
we were staying at. A paper would dig in that. We were making fun stuff which was enjoyable
for us and would keep people engaged and create a fun energy around the project. Like this feed, we made
when we were driving from Detroit to Washington DC. [MUSIC] [LAUGHTER] [MUSIC] Try
to keep people engaged. Remember, this
will help you down the line when you're trying
to sell the show because it'll demonstrate
that you already have some fans interested
in what you're doing. It shows a network that
you're onto a good thing. Look, don't get his hardened. I really thought that
when we started, people would just flock to our project and
our Facebook page. I don't know why I just thought
that was going to happen. But actually, it's a slow game. It just slowly build and at
some point it builds quicker. We gave ourselves small aims. Our first goal was 100 likes, then we work towards 500. We were really
stuck till we hit a 1,000 and it just continued
to build from there. Take it easy, have fun, and don't worry
about it too much. Scheduled time for
posting to social media, and always be aware
of when you're out and about if anything entertaining or funny that
you could post to your page. You want to engage audiences and keep things light and fans. So don't worry too much.
35. Production: Conflict Resolution: [MUSIC] Now look, the three of us spent a fair bit of time on the road
together and there were times when arguments happened and we crack the ****
with each other. This stuff happens. What we realized over time is that a good working relationship isn't about conflicts not happening because
they're going to happen, but what you want to
work towards is getting that conflict resolution time
down as much as possible. When we had our
first big flight, we didn't talk to each
other for like a day or two and the next few days
we had pretty weird vibe. By the end of the production, we were getting a lot better
at having those chats. I found that it was
really important to try and listen to the
other boys when they had an issue with what
I was doing and to not get defensive about it. My first reaction
was often getting really defensive and
to counterattack, sometimes attacking them
on a personal level. That wasn't really
a good approach. I realized later that
it's best to try and keep my ego out of it and
put the defense aside, listen to what they're saying, take it on board
and try and have a reasonable
discussion about it, maybe apologize for my role
in things, all that stuff. If I was having an
issue with the boys, it was best to try
and chat about it as soon as possible because often I wouldn't say anything
and then build up all this resentment
for a couple of weeks, then I'd just explode in a rage over something small
that had sent me off. [NOISE] That's also not a healthy way to
deal with things. Hey, we were learning, we were spending a lot of time together and conflicts happened. I would really recommend
doing a bit of research beforehand about
conflict resolution and that subject because
it'll go a long way for your working
relationship and it's a very important part of
any relationship really, so get involved, trust me. [MUSIC] If you're working
closely with a team, you probably going to get
into a few arguments. It's natural, try
to detach yourself, not take things personally, avoid being defensive and
approach conflicts with an open mind and
a willingness to resolve the issue as
soon as possible. The sooner is resolved, the sooner things can get
back to the good stuff. [MUSIC]
36. Production: Managing Energy & Mental Health: [MUSIC] I know some of you are going to
label me as some hippy, but I really don't care. I've been on this journey and now I have the
experience to know what things are really
important to focus on. Keeping up a good energy and keeping your
mental health in a good place are two things that are vital to your project, having a good buzz around it. Now we felt like rock stars and some kind
of tour around America. We spent a lot of the
early days partying heaps, eating fast food and just
feeling we were invincible. But turns out we weren't. That crappy lifestyle takes its toll on you energy
and after a while you just feel worn
out all the time and your mental health can
take a bit of a dive. Neither of which
are conducive to getting a project done well. I realized getting heap
to sleep, eating well, doing a bit of exercise
and all that good stuff went a long way
to keeping me saying, keeping me feeling good and
keeping the project going. I would strongly advise that you foster your own good routines to keep you in a good mental space and feeling physically good. Sure. It's healthy to let
loose from time to time. Trust me, too much
drinking and too many drugs and crap food
and light night, are the last thing
that you're going to feel like doing is
getting up and filming. Let alone filming it well. Try and keep the bigger
picture in mind. You can do all
that stuff another time when you're not
chasing your dreams. [MUSIC] Mental health
is not hippy talk. Look after yourself and make
sure your body is getting what it needs while you're
out there shooting a project. It might be enticing
to party all the time, stay up late and
booze self crazy. But those things are just
going to take energy away from making your
dreams come true. [MUSIC]
37. Production: Outro: [MUSIC] So we'd be on the road for
months and we had tried our best and filmed everything
that we thought we should. We have film with
jugglers, gay voguers, gangster rappers,
real-life superheroes, **** stars, UFO chasers. We'd been to abandoned cities, pack frozen ice on a dead guy, we'd filmed our own little fun
moments in-between at all, as well as bits
like shooting from the car's bonnet while driving, then into the car
and out the window. All in all we hoped we'd
made an interesting show. We had ups and downs and **** stuff happened to
us our car broke down here and my appendix burst and I need an operation,
all that stuff. But overall, we'd
had a great time, I would film what's hopefully
to become a TV show. Now we'd run out of money so it was time for us to head back to Australia and move on to
the next phase of it all, selling and post-production. [MUSIC]
38. Selling: Introduction: [MUSIC] This is where things will
start to become a bit of a choose your
own adventure book. I know it seems weird that the selling section is
before post-production, but I'll put it there because that's the way it
played out for us. We decided to take a
gamble and try and sell the show from showing
broadcasts as just one episode. We did this because
we were very broke when we came back from
the production stage. We got back and we edited
one episode of our show, what's known as a pilot episode. We edited one whole episode, making it look the
way we envisioned an episode of our
show would look like. Then we go all our
fancy documents together and started
chasing that style. Now obviously to
edit your pilot, you might need the
information in the post introduction
section. That's cool. You can go there. It's
right after this section. Like I said, this was a gamble because we were
still trying to sell as an acquisition of
finished product even though we hadn't exactly
finished the product. We were basically saying, Hey, we've shut all the
footage and this is what an episode will look like. Now please buy it and we'll use the money to finish editing. This was a risk,
and as a result, it took longer to sell
than it probably would have if we had all the
episodes finished. Luckily, one of the
broadcasters we approach, ended up loving
that first episode so much that they would convince the rest
of the series was going to be great.
So they bought it. With the money we got
from the network, they paid half upfront
and half on completion. We finished editing the show. Now most broadcasters will only buy a show once it's completed. If our little gamble
hadn't worked out, we were still planning to get part-time jobs and
fund the completion of our show so we could sell it as a properly completed product. I would still recommend
trying to complete your show first before
trying to sell it. But if you're feeling
lucky and feel like rolling the dice like
we did, then go for it. It never hurts to try. Just don't get discouraged
if they don't go for it as it's a
tad unconventional, but it does happen
from time to time. I'll walk you through the
selling process we went through first and then we'll do
post-production after. That might be a
little bit confusing, but I think you're a tough kid and you're going to be okay.
39. Selling: Prepare for Rejection: [MUSIC] First stop, you've got to prepare yourself for
a lot of rejection. We got rejected heys by a bunch of places before
we sold the show. To be honest, I was getting
close to giving up. It took us about a
year before we had any interest in the
show, so hang in there. It's not going to
be a quick thing, and if it is, that's awesome. But it just wasn't
the case for us. In my opinion, this is the hardest part of
the whole process. You end up waiting to hear
back from people a lot, holding your breath,
getting half excited, and half thinking it's
not going to work out. It was a mentally
pretty tough process. But I had to keep
reminding myself that even if it
didn't go anywhere, we were legends for even giving it a go in
the first place. But you know what, in the end, persistence beat resistance, and it ended up paying off. [MUSIC]
40. Selling: Setting up a Company : [MUSIC] One of the things that we found out we
needed to do was have a company to sign the deal
through if we sold the show. We found out that most networks and distributors would only sign a contract with an
actual registered company. In Australia, that
means a Pty limited, so a properly
registered company. Now there was a couple of
ways we could go about this. We could either go to an
accountant and set one up, which over here
would cost about a $1,000, sometimes more. We'd also need that
accountant to explain the legal guidelines for
running a company to us because there's
certain responsibilities we would have by law if we owned an actual
Pty Ltd company. But don't be too put off by it. It's easier than it
actually sounds. But what we actually did was ask our friends if we could
use their company. A couple of friends had set
up a production company a while ago that it was just
sitting there dormant. It was basically a
company that just existed on a piece
of paper somewhere. But we really trusted those
mates and they trusted us. They said that if we got a deal, we could use their company
to sign it through. Now, only do this if you really, really trust the
people because it could lead to all
sorts of headaches. But it worked out fine for us. When we got the deal with
the network and later with the distributor and
Netflix and all the rest, they were all signed
with no roles for SAM, which was our friend's
company that we got to use. Now, I know this
might sound annoying, but that's just one
of the roadblocks we hit and that's
what I'm here for, to give you a heads
up on that stuff. Now, since then, I've set up my own company and now I run
everything through that. [MUSIC]
41. Selling: Terminology Recap: [MUSIC] All right. Remember back in
pre-production we talked about commissions
and acquisitions. Now if you don't remember, go back and watch that
bit because this is terminology that's really
important in the selling phase. Because there's two main
ways to sell the show, commissions and acquisitions, and what we ended up
getting was an acquisition. Just go back and re-familiarize yourself
with those terminology. It'll help some of this stuff make a little bit more sense. [MUSIC]
42. Selling: Film Festivals: [MUSIC] Look, we didn't go
down this road, but something you might
want to consider if you have a time and
heaps of patience is that you put your
show or film into some film festivals before
you try and sell it. This way you might
be able to rack up some nice accolades
for it and it might help you in
the selling phase. Everyone loves those little film festival laurels and they do add a certain zest
that cannot be denied. What this might help with is
proving to broadcasters and distributors that
other people in the biz also think
your show is good. The other good thing about
entering festivals is you might get the attention
of some industry folk. We could end up being a pretty solid exercise in networking. The best way to go about this is to get onto filmfreeway.com. This is a website that list all the different film festivals out there and gives
you all the details you need for each of them, where they are, when the
submission dates are, how much to enter,
and all that stuff. If you're thinking of
going down this road, then I would case
through FilmFreeway and see which film
festivals are right for the type of show or
film that you've made and then enter those ones. Our camera man,
[inaudible] who is actually filming this course, told me that if you're
planning on entering multiple film festival
then signing up for the FilmFreeway gold membership will end up saving you money in the long run as it offers discounts on the fee of
entering age festivals. If you're thinking
you might want to go down this road and get some extra attention
and accolades for your baby before you
try and sell it, FilmFreeway is probably
the best resource for you.
43. Selling: Elements to Sell With: [MUSIC] Here's what we did
when we started trying to sell the show. First of all, we
edited the pilot. A pilot is basically a fancy
word for the first episode. We spent a few months
editing one whole episode of our show making it look exactly how we pictured
it would look on TV. We knew whoever we sold it to might want us to
change it a bit, but that was okay. We had to look through
all the footage, had to think and thought
we could probably make six half-hour episodes
from what we'd shot. Again, we figured that if a broadcast would prefer
something different, like three or four
one-hour episodes, we could do that too. But the general format
we thought we could turn our show into was six
half-hour episodes. We made the first episode, we got our strongest
stories and we put them into that
first bad boy. It took us a few months
because we were still getting the hang of editing an
episode of our own show, and we were very
slow and clunky, but we got there in the end. I'll put our pilot episode in the next video so you can
watch it if you want. Next up, we caught a trailer. You want a nice, snappy
trailer that's 30 seconds to 45 seconds long that
just reels people in. Then we put together a
nice-looking document that gave a bit of information
about the show. Something we could send
to people if they were interested or take to
meetings and give to people. It was basically
a small booklet. This was the front page. See down the bottom is
a 6 by 30 thing telling them it's six episodes
of half an hour each. On the other side is our
little production company that I already told you about, No Roles for Sam. The next page had a bit
more of our synopsis. It was basically an
extended description with some cool photos to
make it look awesome. See, that's where taking
those nice photos during production
comes in handy. Then we just had a
few pages that had a little rundown of each
of the proposed episodes. See, there's a quick synopsis of an episode with some
nice photos at the top. Gets the message across
in an easy to digest way. The people we were meeting
were often busy and there was no way they were going to be reading any lengthy documents. Short, sharp, snazzy. I would really recommend
an online program called Canva for making
these proposals. It's a free version
that has heaps of awesome templates and
it's easy to use. I pretty much use that for
everything these days. Once we had all those
elements ready, our pilot, trailers, nice-looking booklet, we were ready to start
hitting people up. A good bonus is if you
know the key points of your show and the things you've written in
your pitch document, so when you start
having meetings, you can be nice and succinct. Try not to babble, even if you're nervous,
and dress well. You don't have to wear a
tuxedo, but dress nice. Look, you still do
all this stuff if you decided to sell the show
after completing everything. As in, if you've taken
the approach where you're finishing editing everything
before you try and sell it, not just the pilot. What you do in that case is you upload all your
finished episodes to YouTube or Vimeo password
protected, of course. You have a nice-looking
booklet, the trailer, you'll have decided which
episode is your strongest one to show them when they
want to see an episode. You'll have the
rest there ready to rock if they want to see
more. New bloody ripper. [MUSIC] We looked at our footage and reason
that we can make about six half-hour episodes. We edited a pilot episode using our strongest stories and
short, snappy trailer. We'd attach the
trial to emails to try and attract
attention quickly, then send the pilot when
we had someone interested. We always put together a
nice pitch document with information about the show and lots of nice photos we've taken. Here you want to be more
visual and less wordy. Just a short synopsis and run
down a proposed episodes. If you've finished
editing all the episodes of your show before
trying to sell it, that's an even
stronger approach. Upload them to Vimeo or YouTube with a password
protection and have them ready
to rock alongside your trailer and pitch document. Know your project
inside and out and practice talking
about it before you start having
meetings so that you sound confident
and don't babble. [MUSIC]
44. Selling: Our Pilot Episode: All right guys. This is our pilot
episode that we caught and we started
selling the show with. Now, be aware because this is definitely some adult themes. Just to reiterate there is
mature content in this video, and sorry guys, of blood or the ***** out. This is Unplanned America. The show about three Australian mates who quit their jobs, hopped on a plane, board
a barely roadworthy car, and hit the highways of the USA. Throwing away the itinerary, we find ourselves
in the most weird, wonderful, intimidating, and
inspirational societies, the land of the
free has to offer. My name is Gonzo, in my opinion, I'm the
leader of the pack. When you're traveling
on the road, you're not always going
to get a chance to stop the laundromat and
clean your delicates. I'm always sharing, just take your underpants off and
just scrub them with some soap and you having
an electric window because this makes
it a lot easier. Watch, they're not
going anywhere. Texas clothesline, we'll ride through the desert for
maybe half an hour. Good as new, maybe a bit dusty, might have a few
dead bugs on them that better than
the alternative. Next up, we have Parv. The best **** roadside
cook in the USA. Eating out is for
chumps, basically, and cooking in your
motel room and stinking it out is not for chumps,
that's for winners. Then there's Nick, the
last of the three amigos, and the only one of this
with a normal name. After four hellishly
boring days after the car break down in the
most nothing town in America, Laurel, Maryland, which
you've never heard of, and please don't look it
up, we're finally free. This episode is all about
family from the Juggalos we encounter in
Southern Illinois to the gay ballroom houses
of New York City. We discover that family
can be found in the most unlikely of circumstances. When they go home and
they're living their lives, people are like you're a
dork listening to that ****. To be out here in the
middle of nowhere, and to reroute all these people, who have the same
interests you do, it just makes wonderful people. Thank God I'm not alone. A Juggalo is a follower
of a rap group called the Insane Clown Posse known
for its violent lyrics. Juggalo say it's a way of life, criminologists
call it dangerous. Authorities have classified
Juggalos as a gang in Utah and Arizona as well as in portions of Pennsylvania
and California. Rumors of violent,
murderous Juggalos, and embracing gang
classification from the FBI, had us wondering whether
we were really cut out for the gathering
in Southern Illinois. Mixed ingenuity in short, that at least upon arrival, we'd have some cool beers
to calm our nerves. As we traveled to the
biggest white trash event, that's a pretty judgment,
but Sam and Fish, will probably love
everyone there. I am advancing my design for my Unplanned America
ICE vehicle on, which I think is suitable
for such an adventure. One can, two cans. Then it was time to meet
the Juggalo family. We are now at the
gathering of the Juggalos. As Nick return the knife, it was fair to say we'd
arrived at the gathering. We're at the gathering
in the Juggalos, we're about to witness a
blind role escape battle. With boxing gloves. On the count of three, you all ready to do this? Three, two, one, fight. We were definitely
out of our element, and it seemed hard to
reconcile the chance of family with the behavior
we were witnessing. Police don't come in here? They're not allowed
to come in here. There's people with
signs like morphine, magic mushrooms,
whatever you want. Look at the size of his joint. Behind us is the
controversial what, drug bridge, where everyone
goes to get their drugs. You can get any drug
apparently that you want, you can get acid, mushrooms, molly, which is MDMA. Panadols. Panadols if you've got
a headache, apparently, maybe even heroin, but that is an unconfirmed
rumor at this juncture. That is the only drug
we haven't seen here. Heroin is not any faster
at the moment, is it? It'll come back. It's not easy coming
back in [inaudible] . There was a whole lot more than drugs on
offer at the gathering. Mom, please change channels. Don't tell the organizers, they're probably coming for
free and not even get paid. Broadcasting live from the
gathering of the Juggalos, somebody make some
noise right about now. Sure, the wet t-shirt contests might not have been
to everyone's taste, but it would've been
frankly rude of me to turn down an offer
to participate. While I'd succeeded at
pretending to enjoy myself, there was still a few moments that left us
feeling less comfortable. Show us that, what is it? This is 16 strands of steel. He just shaved his arm with the hatchet
that he's carrying around. There are some nursing really ****** up
Juggalos out there. There are some really
****** Juggalos. With places like here, I've seen three or four
people get carried out. If you don't know what your
limit is, you find it here? What's up boys? You might be able to have a
quick chat with you guys. We will just start interviewing
a couple of Juggolets and the Juggalo having
a nice grand old chat. We respect one
another, we treat one each other like equals. Being out of a cubicle
route a big fat ****, and he's like stop filming. Then the square off began. These two guys start
fighting each other, everyone's crowding around,
the crowd started building. You're not even
from this country. I'm not from this country? Fat guy push that in. You are fat guy,
he's the fat guy. I'm not the fat guy. He came at me, push me. Then the other guy is like. The fat guy, which shouldn't
be me, hit ground. Dare swing on me, bro. We were like, "Let's
get out of here." About five minutes later, 15 Juggalos had stomped
down towards us. The Fat Guys Crew wanted
to see our footage. If a weapon had been used, all **** was about
to break loose. I was trying to stop
it the whole time, right before that guy started fighting with someone. Trying to break up the fight. Thankfully, there was no
weapon and it never escalated. We managed to laugh it off, but it had been a pretty
frightening experience. To be fair to the
Juggalos though, the fight had only begun when one of their own defended us. You're not even
from this country. We were still unsure about the FBI's assertion that the Juggalos were
a dangerous gang, so we decided to dig
a little deeper. Tell us what it's about being a Juggalo, man. It's about family.
It's about lifestyle. We look out for each other. Gauges back. It's love no matter
who you are or how you look or who you
are, we don't judge. We accept you for who
the **** you are. We got your back no
matter who you are or what you do. We got you. Tattooed this the day
I came up to the army. Today I turn 18. You're in the army, what? Yes, sir. Are there many
Juggalos in the army? There were seven of us Juggalos
with tattoos and ****, and they had separated us
because we were gang-related. You had a lot. Even in the army, we
were just still gang. The longer we spent at
the gathering and the more time we spent
with the Juggalos, we couldn't help but
feel that got a bad rap. To us, it's saying they were just a group of guys
and girls that had got together in the hope of finding people with similar beliefs. It means that I'm
always going to have family to rely on that's
not going to judge me, that's going to be down with
me and ******* roll with me. **** the ******* FBI and their, "We're a gang and ****." We are too unorganized
to be a ******* gang. The most organized thing we do all year is make
it to gathering. Do we look organized? Do we look like we're going to harm anybody? Most people here are
too ****** up to do anything bad to each other. Some of you may not
have had cousins, some of you may
not have brothers, some of you may
not have sisters, good friends that you've
never had in your life. Are here. You missed it, but you
have it right here, it doesn't matter
where you're from. It doesn't matter who
or where you're from. You're from Australia?
If you can make it. Your family. Come. Coming up, we speak to the fathers of the
Juggalo family, the Insane Clown Posse. Because nowhere in the history
of rock and roll period has there ever been
anything like Juggalos. The gathering of the
mother-effing Juggalos. Best time ever. Keep grinding. Same here, baby. We keep grinding. We keep grinding ninjas. We'd spend three days and nights to the gathering
of the Juggalos. What had been the
odd shocking moment, we'd been welcomed
with open arms by this much-maligned group. Now the time had
come to speak to the band behind the
entire movement, The Insane Clown Posse. You basically got
this huge community which is based on you
guys. How does that feel? It doesn't really
feel like the way you probably see it because we're just as amazed by Juggalo culture as
the Juggalos are. We never planned this,
this part of it. We never said, let there be Juggalos,
you know what I'm saying? The Juggalo, well,
created itself. The bond, the camaraderie
is strictly managing. You guys made a big announcement that you're going
to sue the FBI. We have to sue the FBI. Juggalos are so united and so passionate that
the FBI scares them. People fear what they
don't understand, so they label it a gang. If you do a crime and you're
about to do a week in jail, if you're in a gang, that'll
turn into a month in jail. If Juggalos meets out
there peddling weed, then he goes to get sentenced, just because he's a Juggalo, he's going to do an
extra three weeks. That's ****** up. That is the government's way of dictating what people
can and can't wear, or what they can and
can't listen to. Five years from now when
the rest of the world accepts it that
Juggalos are a gang, it takes something so special, which Juggalos are and
it ***** all over it. It says you're nothing special, you're just a ******* gang. Anytime we have written
about and talked about with this heavenly hard, people are listening to
our **** in Juggalos, they go through ****
just been a Juggalos. People give them
**** at their job, in the school, or whatever. It's not easy being a fan of the most hated
band in the world. But isn't that just amusing
what they have in common? It's so many other things. I never had a mom
and never had a dad. Most of us came from homes where it wasn't
like a family, and we come here
to replace that. Exactly. That's exactly it. Really anybody who's
ever felt like they were outcastes or the downtrodden, what's said is trash
and we're really sick of it so we decided to band together and we started a club, and we said what
would be a neat name? Juggalos, and that's
what it's all about. When they come here and they
gather all these people just like them, they're
awesome individuals. You know you're not alone. It's like a sigh of relief
beyond comprehension. With the gathering in
our rare vision mirror, we were back on the road. Only four days earlier, we were headed into
the great unknown. But any fears had
disappeared when we were accepted into the Juggalo
family upon arrival. We found a culture where everyone was accepted
for who they were, regardless of how society
at large had viewed them, and we couldn't
help but feel that the FBI's gang label
was unwarranted. It had been a ****
of four days that we weren't going to
forget anytime soon. As we drove away, we'd already made
plans to get back there for a family reunion. Tell everybody if
you're not here, in fact, **** you
you're not here. Next time, bring your
*** here and you could enjoy all of this. This is our paradise, please come and join us. Gathering of the Juggalos. In New York you're forced to look at
strangers in the train, you're forced to grab against people that
you normally won't, and so that's why a
ballroom exists here because it's probably
the only place that it really can be what it is. The next part of our
unplanned journey across the USA took us to the
heart of the Big Apple, and headfirst into
another example of a unique self-made
American family, the Voguing and Ballroom
Scene of New York City. The epicenter of this
world is irregular Monday club night at a
place called Escalator, an event known as Vogue Knights. That, of course, was where
the boys and I headed. When we got there, the club was relatively quiet. It soon became
apparent that those there were competitors
warming up. As the club filled up
and judges assembled, it also became apparent
that we might be the only straight
White people there. Then at around 1:00 AM,
the competition began. The source of the
Knights' music, DJ MikeQ, explained to us that the
dancers were battling it out one-on-one for the honor of their respective
dance houses, often named after the legendary
fashion houses of Paris, such as Dior and Vuitton. MikeQ also outlined the
different elements the Voguers we're judged on in
each ballroom walk-off. There's five and
sometimes six elements where Voguing dips, catwalks, duck walks, hands, spins, floor performance. Because all I'd seen
was Madonna Vogue, and so I knew there was
a little more legit dancing than just putting
your hands next to your face, but I didn't expect
it to be as tough. There's even change from
what it was then till now. It's more dramatic now, and then you have a lot
of the younger kids so they changed the
flavor of the Voguing. A lot of the moves they
come up with are their own. The Knights' proceedings
were controlled by Kevin Jay-Z prodigy of
the House of Prodigy, who's known in the ballroom
scene as a commentator. Well, commentating is basically
like MCing or rapping, a host of any type
of major event. Can I get a nice
little help, please? Let's go. If I get vulgar, I may recite poetry, but I may recite poetry
as if I'm rapping it. I may just say things that
come off the top of my head. Like if I would just want to say ***** or ***** or hand
or get out of my face, I'll just make it
sound really nice. How competitive does it get? It gets very intense. The cross-dressing
ballroom scene in New York City dates as
far back as the '30s. However, these balls were mostly the domain of White men, and Black participants were expected to widen their faces. By the late '60s, however, the Black gay community
had grown the ball scene to heights unimagined by
their White counterparts. Thanks to MikeQ and Kevin, there's wide-eyed White
boys who are fast becoming expert observers on all
things Vouging ballroom, but we wanted to learn more. Luckily for us,
our time coincided with one of the biggest events
on the ballroom calendar, the House of Latex Ball, where we would learn there's a much more serious side
to the whole scene. We had found ourselves smack bang
in the middle of New York City's
legendary underground vouging and ballroom scene, where young gay, and
transgender, black, and Latino men battle it out for the glory of the dance
crews or houses. We've been invited to
film at a charity event that really highlighted what
this culture was all about. We're in the middle
of New York City, in the middle of Manhattan, at the 22nd annual
House of Latex Ball. We've put on by the
gay men health crisis here in New York. This might be the epicenter
of all things vogue, and ballroom which is the
real reason that we're here. As we delve into that culture, we just had to be here
and see what happens. Can we get some sound? Inside, we were blown
away once again. This time by an insane
fairy tale themed ball. Using the moves that Mike
who had explained to us, the competitors faced off in a series of different
categories. These range from straight
up runway walking to intense vouging and other more fantastical
costume categories. As we saw how fiercely they defended
the honor of their houses, we started to realize that maybe these organizations
were more than just a team to
these young people. Each house was headed up by
older members of the same, who took on the
role of mothers and fathers in the
vouge family tree. Behind the evening
spirit of celebration, there were much heavier
realities faced by members of the vogue
and vouging community. The evening was run by
a charity organization known as gay men's
health crisis, and Krishna Stone was its
head of community relations. Tonight this is the 22nd
annual House of Latex Ball. It is about creativity and
resiliency and amazing talent. It's also about stopping
the spread of HIV. Young gay black men are disproportionately
impacted by HIV in this country and globally. It's a historic issue around the meaningfulness
of black people, transgender people, gay people. You're often thought of as somebody who has
not really made it, and that's just
really not the case. We need more role models, particularly for gay kids. They just don't have
enough role models that they can talk to, who can talk to them about the issues around relationships, about identity, about sex. Krishna thought that mainstream
society and media didn't provide the role models that these young people needed
to stay healthy and happy. Trying to make their way
in a country without basically the minority
of the minority. Maybe some guidance
was exactly what the mothers and fathers
of their houses provided. We met the perfect man
to answer our questions. Legendary vouger, Luna Khan, patriarch, and overall
father of the House of Khan. Can you tell us a
little bit about your love story coming
into this scene? I first started coming to
the House of Ballsy in 1998, I was about 17-ish. I was automatically intoxicated with this wonderful movement
that people were doing. Most young gay
people tend to go to the ball thing
because it gives you that family that you don't have. Some had families who
loved them but some, their family kicked them
out because they're gay, and I was a kid in a house
now I'm a father of a house. The difference between the
mother and the father, is the mother a
transgender person? Not necessarily because
I was a mother once. A mother is just a title. You could be a
mother of a house. A mother is just because maybe there's already a father, so they need a mother. What has the house
protégé done for you? I feel like support. Just knowing that you have another family that
you can come to. I was one of those
young people that was dismissed and lost myself. My story begins and it will
always begin at the age of 14 because I was infected
with HIV at the age of 14. I had my first sexual experience and so what happened
with that is I got HIV and that's what made
my compassion for life and want to do more for
people, more vivid. So have been living
this long with it, I think that it's a gift, but I still have a
lot of work to do because I know life can
be taken away like that. But GMHP, which is gay men health prices
was the first agency, the first service organization
for HIV/AIDS in the world. Most of my work is to provide service to young
people and make them feel they are loved because
a lot of us aren't. People just don't care. We need to start loving
each other and we need to come together because
at the end of the day, that's really what
it all is about. It's about what you
leave on Earth, but how you touch the Earth. I think what's nice
about House of Ballroom. Its that no matter why and
what team you're part of, we still embrace you. So you say a lot sometimes
they're kicked out, the gay community kicked out of their family homes
and stuff like that. Then they come here or just
come to the ballroom saying they've get to
have that feeling. People that I usually don't
get the same love and respect than anybody else
would, they get that. They have people
that are screaming their name in the name of love. Then you have family and
then you have competition, and then if you win, you get the award
and that will make anybody feel wanted, loved, all of that. We all want to be somebody. We cannot just
walk in the street every day with the costume on because we have a
whole bunch of people judging us, gay bashing us. Most of us come out to the ballroom scene
to enjoy the night, have fun, be ourselves, and also certain
people they only have this to come to because
they don't have nothing. They lost family,
shelter, everything. So this is like their
highlight of their life. Their family may have
dismissed them or society doesn't care about
them, somebody loves them. For that little moment, you are Madonna, you are the Beyonces'
of the world. We all strive to be
that for that moment. When I die and how they say
life flashed before you, there's going to be a whole
bunch of ballroom moments because that's what it was. My life is a flash of ballroom moments and I think
that's a beautiful thing. Yeah, that's a perfect ending. We'd come to realize that the
ballroom houses have played a vital family role
for thousands of gay and transgender
black and Latino men. Many of whom were cruelly kicked out of the families
they were born into. Thanks to ladies like
Luna and Krishna, as well as the scene as a whole. Young people who face
much more adversity than we would ever have to
endure were given the love, acceptance, and even a sense of self pride that
everybody deserves. After being welcomed
with open arms by both the juggler family of Illinois and the ballroom
family of New York City, it was once again time for the Unplanned America
family to hit the road.
45. Selling: Hitting People Up: [MUSIC] Now that we had our
selling material, it was time to start
approaching people, TV stations and
broadcasts generally. We started doing our research. Who were the broadcast
is in Australia that might be interested in
our type of content? Our show was pretty
raw and a bit edgier than your usual stuff. It needs to target
channels at play, that kind of thing. No point targeting
the family-friendly soccer mom TV channels. Around Sydney where we live, we had some options. It was a channel called SPS, which played a Giancana stuff. Then there was ABC, which
also had a sub-channel called ABC2 which sometimes
played riskier content. There was also a
few cable channels that might fit the bill. We started making a list
of the type of places that were likely to
play alcoholic content. Now we decided we
weren't going to just email the receptionist
at these places. We wanted to get our stuff into the hands of
higher-level people. We'd got on the Internet and
started doing our research finding the right people that work at these target stations. We asked all our
friends if they knew anyone at those
networks and then just got on Google and LinkedIn to try and find the right
contact details. Now one of the handy tools
for this is LinkedIn. I set up a
spiffy-looking profile, and maybe some of the
job titles that I put on there for myself were
a little bit elevated, but I wanted to look good. I also started requesting people on there so
that I could jazz out my profile and make my
whole page look really good. I figured that if I was going to be hitting up industry big wigs, I needed more than
17 connections. It doesn't matter if your
connections and just give mom and all her friends and
your high-school buddies, just get those numbers up. You might want to
consider signing up to LinkedIn premium
for a little while. The benefit of this is that
you can start messaging people who you're not
even connected with, which can be helpful for those network big wigs
that you've scoped out. The people we were looking
for were those people at the broadcasters
who had these titles. Acquisitions manager,
commissioning editor, Head of Programming,
Channel Manager, programming manager,
senior programming. Those kinds of titles. We would try and
source these people's contact details
but also be having coffees with
basically everyone we knew who might be
helpful to the CORS, telling them about
our project and seeing if they could
help us out in some way. Occasionally someone
would be like, I know someone who works
with that network. I'll give you the
email address then whether it was a message
through LinkedIn or an email, we've managed to get a hold
off through whatever means, it was time to make our approach would try
and get our spiel nice and efficient getting
across where we wanted to say without faffing too much. Here's an email I sent to
a guy who was the head of programming fox till the biggest cable channel
here in Australia. Hi blank, blank posts
on your details. He used to work at Channel V, said you'd be a good guide
to getting contact with. Myself and two other
producers just returned from shooting a documentary
series in the USA, think Louis thorough meets
an awesome road trip. We were on the set
of **** shoots, hung out with the
Insane Clown Posse, patrolled the streets
of Seattle with real-life superheroes,
and a whole lot more. We were hoping to
open a dialogue with you as now that the
pilot he's caught, we are trying to discern
which channel in Australia would be the best
match for the content. I have attached our
that treatment and the pilot can be viewed here. Vimeo link with possible that
we are open to working with a network to mold the content
to better suit their needs. I hope to hear from you
with your thoughts, Cheers Father Jared's
key director, producer neurons for
Sam productions. See? It was nice, short with a length of a pilot
and a document attached. Sometimes we'd also just
attach the trailer. Now hate to people ignored us. People said they weren't
interested or it wasn't the thing they were
looking for right now. All sorts of stuff we
just kept plugging away. It took us about a
year to sell the show, and I'll take you through
that in our next video. Our little journey to victory. [MUSIC] Before you start
hitting people up, make a real nice refined list of people you'd like to target
when selling your show. First, consider the major
broadcasters and channels in your area and what kind
of content they'd go for. Would they air your staff? If he is put them on the list. Next, seek out the big wigs at your chosen network and try
to find the contact details. Look on LinkedIn,
stoke them on Google, ask any friend who works
within an inch of media and TV through whatever you
can to get a hold of them. Now once you have that golden
piece of contact info, send through a short
and snappy email with a pitch document trailer
and later the pilot, voila. [MUSIC]
46. Selling: Our Selling Process: [MUSIC] All right, so this is
how it went for us. Keep in mind that this
was during the span of slightly more than a year after we finished editing our pilot. First up we hit a channel called ABC because they
had another channel called ABC-2 that we figured might like
our kind of stuff. They said they
weren't looking for that kind of thing right now. Next up, we went to a
channel called SBS, would broadcast more documentaries
and also edgier stuff. They also said they weren't looking for that kind
of thing right right. Then we had a friend who'd done some work with Red Bull TV. We'd passed on some
contact details. Red Bull was interested
for a while. They strung us along for a few months and
then they went cold. That was a major
bummer because it was feeling like something
was going to happen, so we were really bummed
out when it went nowhere. Then a friend put us in
touch with this guy who apparently had contact
with networks in the USA. He had a meeting with us
and promised us the world. He said he was going to
sell our show in the USA, and all over the world, and he's going to
make us famous, we were going to be massive. He got our hopes pretty high and we were feeling
great about it. Then the weird thing is we
never heard from him again. He wouldn't even
return our emails. To this day that thing was such a mystery, but either way, we felt pretty let
down by it because it was clear that
he'd gone cold on us. If you're out there,
Roly, you're a ****. Then a friend who had
done some animating work at a broadcaster called Foxtel gave us the email address of the guy who was
their general manager. That's the email I was
showing you before. He emailed me back saying this "Hi Pawel. Thanks for the note. I've cc'ed in blank, blank, who is our Head of
Programming and the best point of contact initially. I'll let him him back to you once he has had a
chance to review. Kind regards, Mr. Blanky
Blank, General Manager, the Music Channel and Head of Digital, Foxtel
Networks Australia." Then I emailed that guy, and he emailed me back. Then I had to email him a couple more times to remind him. Don't be afraid to
follow people up, just don't send too many follow-ups and
start seeming like a weird ex-partner
who is leaving a thousand messages
on your voicemail. Eventually, he was interested and he got
us in for a meeting. The three of us
went in and we had the meeting and he was pretty
into what we were doing. That really got our
hopes up again, but then afterwards it would be ages before we'd hear from him, so we weren't sure if it
was going to happen or not. Even though the general
tone was positive, we decided to keep
trying to sell the show just until something
was a sure thing. Just keep in mind that
you're a low priority to most people and you're
going to have to accept that. They might take weeks to
get back to you sometimes. It's sucks, but it's
just the reality. Next, we hit up the
acquisitions manager at a cable channel
here called Studio. The guy who was in
the role at the time said it wasn't really
the thing they were looking for but he knew
that SBS which was one of the first channels we'd
approached and got rejected by, had just launched a
new channel called SBS-2 which later
became SBS Viceland, and they were looking for
this kind of content. He gave us the email
address of a guy who was a senior in the programming
department of the new channel. We emailed that guy
and he was interested. Then we had a meeting and
it seemed to go well. Then there was some
back and forth as they'd ask us some questions. Then they send us an email
saying they'd like to see proper industry-style
breakdowns of our episodes. We didn't have that and we didn't even really
know what that was, but we had a couple
of late nights, found out and we got it done. An episode breakdown is basically a document
that shows what's going on in every
little bit of your show and how long each bit goes for. This is so they can
have a good idea of how each episode will
look play by play. Seeing as our episodes were
going to be half an hour, which in TV land usually means 24-ish minutes because
they need time for ads. We came up with a rough vision for how
an episode would look. I've attached one of our
rough episode breakdowns as well as a template in case
you need to do one too. They might ask you for
random **** like that and you just got to find
out what it is and do it. Don't let some small
process derail you. Yeah, you might need
to hustle for a couple of nights with coffee and pizza, or chai's and burrito balls, or whatever your thing is, but just get it done. We gave them the breakdowns and they were happy with that. They'd asked if
we'd be happy with an executive producer being
assigned to the process, and what we would see
their role being. We said we'd be happy with
someone that we could send out draft edits to
for some feedback. We were both happy with that, us because we got to
give someone the edits for feedback that was
outside of the process, and then because
they'd be able to guide the process a bit. Then, boom, over a year after we
started trying to sell it, we got the magic email saying that we were going
to make us an offer. We were over the moon. [MUSIC] Now like I said before they were making
us an acquisition offer. This meant that they were
going to pay us a fee, which meant that they had
a license to air air show and then network for
a set amount of time, or a set amount of place. They were paying us 75 grand. Now, that might seem like a lot but if you think
about all the time we put into it and the
fact that we had to divide it up amongst
the three of us, and then also pay ourselves
to finish editing the show, it really just got
us over the line, and it ended up leading
to other stuff for us, so it was a massive win. [MUSIC] After a bunch of rejections from broadcasters and a few uncertain
opportunities, we finally scored a deal
with a new TV channel SPS-2. There were a few things
they asked us for which we didn't have and we didn't
even know what they were. But we had a few late nights
and we got everything done. When you're in the
selling stage let nothing stop you from
getting that deal. [MUSIC]
47. Selling: Journey & Destination: [MUSIC] Look, I think something that's really
important is to not get your identity too wrapped up in whether this thing sells or not. As I mentioned, it took over a year before we
managed to sell our show. As that time was
getting longer and longer I was starting to
feel like we had failed. I started to recognize
that my identity was getting way too wrapped
up in this project. It's like that if it
didn't work out I was a total loser and a failure, and if it did work out
it was going to fix all problems or something
weird like that. It wasn't really a healthy
road I was going down. I decid