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Content Creation: Creating a Cinematic Interview in 20 min

teacher avatar Fred Trevino, DP/Colorist & Top Teacher

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Lessons in This Class

    • 1.

      True Crime Intro

      2:24

    • 2.

      What Will You Need?

      3:24

    • 3.

      Camera Placement

      2:05

    • 4.

      Lens Choice Matters

      3:10

    • 5.

      Lighting Techniques

      4:42

    • 6.

      Proper Exposure

      3:55

    • 7.

      Bonus: Basic Color Grade

      8:30

    • 8.

      Final Thoughts

      0:47

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In this class you'll learn how to create a cinematic interview like you would see on Netflix, HBO or in any high-end video production. 

We'll cover things like:

  • What Gear You Need
  • Lighting
  • Lens Choice
  • A Basic Cinematic Grade
  • Proper Exposure 
  • and more! 

If you want to elevate your cinematography skills and want to start producing video and film productions that stand out on social media, or in any creative content environment, then this class is for you. 

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Fred Trevino

DP/Colorist & Top Teacher

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Fred Trevino is a cinematographer & colorist at Beambox Studio and Top Teacher at Skillshare who has been grading projects for small, medium and large corporate clients, as well as filmmakers from all over the globe. He's graded over 60 feature films along with hundreds of music videos, short films, documentaries, commercials, web spots and more.

Some past corporate clients include HBO, ESPN, Shiseido, Under Armour, Sundance Channel, Tru TV, and Pepsi.

He's worked with countless talented DPs and directors and his color work has screened at several highly esteemed festivals such as Sundance, Cannes, and Slamdance. Along with grading he enjoys doing street photography in New York City where he lives.

As a first class he recommends Introduction with a Pro Colorist and ... See full profile

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1. True Crime Intro: I ready to get started? So it was October 4, 2015, and I had just gotten out of work. And so I decided to go to pick up some groceries. When I walked in, I immediately noticed something was off. I walked in and the cashier looked at me. She looked terrified. And next thing you know, I look over and someone has a gun right in my face. From that day on, my life would never be the same again. A question that I get frequently is, how do you make something look cinematic? How do you make something look cinematic in the grade on set, shooting. And one of the best things that you can know as a filmmaker or cinematographer is how to shoot a cinematic interview. You can get hired on great jobs, high end jobs if your interviews stand out. There's a lot of cinematographers out there, a lot of filmmakers out there that make their money, make their living and move up strictly on the fact that they know how to do basic lighting, but in a more unique cinematic way. In this lesson, I'm going to cover choosing your location. I'm going to cover lens choice. I'm going to cover lighting, which is extremely important in creating a cinematic look. And I'm going to give you other tips and tricks on how to take your interviews and keep them from looking like low budget corporate videos and have them look more like high end videos so that you can become a stronger cinematographer and a much better filmmaker because these skills are not just for interviews. The skills that I'm going to show you do carry over to other places in the filmmaking world. Because if you know these foundations, you'll be able to also light more cinematic narrative pieces. You'll be able to light things, whether you're in an office space, whether you are outside, no matter where you are these skills can travel with you and make all of your work better. So let's get started. 2. What Will You Need?: Okay, so before we get started, I just want to go over what you may need and some principles of cinematic interviews. So first, what you need, I would say, definitely, you want to start with one to two cameras. I'd say two cameras is preferred because cutting between two unique shots is usually a little bit more interesting than just having a single camera. Second thing you need, obviously, you need a large light source, and I'll go over this a little bit more in detail, but a good rule of thumb to remember is that the bigger the light source, the softer the light. And the more cinematic that lighting may look, the more natural it may look, and the less lit it will look. Because one of the key things about lighting is that you never want it to look like it's lit, you never want it to look sourcy, which is usually a term that's used. You want everything look natural, cinematic, soft. Nice soft shadows, which is usually one of the key characteristics to making something look pleasing to the eye and interesting. Now, one thing you'll hear me say a lot in this class is that this is an art form, so there's no solid hard rules because there's a lot of beautiful lighting that is hard light light that is not softened, light that is not diffused. But for this class, we're going to go with typical traits, typical characteristics of a cinematic interview and cinematic lighting. And with that, it is a large soft light source. You will also need an additional light that's used for a hair light. A lot of times tube lights kind of like this one are used. But again, use what you have. It's about practicing your skills. You don't have to have two amazing cameras. You don't have to have giant professional light kits. Most of what I'm using is pretty basic film gear, not too expensive. Yes, you can buy something super expensive, but for the most part, it's stuff that you can find online on places like Amazon or B&H Photo, or on different online stores for pretty decent prices. Also, the lenses you choose are very important. For this class, I'm using cinema lenses, which tend to have softer, more pleasing characteristics. Modern lenses tend to be extremely sharp, edge to edge, have very little characteristics or very little character you can also use older vintage lenses, photography lenses. Usually, when something is pleasing and unique and cinematic looking, it's because the lens choice is something with a lot of character. It may have blurry corners. It may have, you know, a little bit of vignetting in there. It may be super sharp in the middle, and then just kind of blends off to the sides. The lenses that I'm using for this class are cinema lenses, but they are budget cinema lenses. Also, having something like a bounce board for fill. Sometimes you need fill, sometimes you don't need fill. So that's basically it. One to two cameras, a large soft light source, some bounce, some diffusion material, a back light, and that's a good place to get started. And all of those things will give you some of the principles of a unique, interesting, cinematic interview like something you would see on Netflix, for example. And I'm going to cover all of this stuff in this class in a little bit more detail. So let's move on to the next lesson. 3. Camera Placement: So in this lesson, I'm going to talk about camera placement. That is connected to the location and some general guidelines when getting started in camera placement is always shoot with the most depth behind you. Place the camera so that you're as far away from the wall behind you as possible so that you can create depth, so you can create background blur. Number two, always be aware of your background, what's in your background. Make sure it's something that's unique, interesting that fits the character, fits the story, but at the same time, isn't super distracting. Always look for things like signs in the backgrounds or maybe logos that aren't supposed to be there, words or people that aren't supposed to be there. There's nothing worse than shooting a great interview, and then you have something in the background that you did not see, and then you have to remove it and post or you can't use that shot at all. Also think about how that camera placement and how the shot and the composition helps tell your stories. So are you going to do a symmetrical shot? Are you going to do a shot where the interview E E is centered, kind of like this one, because I'm talking directly into the camera. Is your subject going to be position to the left or right of the frame, looking into the person conducting the interview? So all of these choices help make your shot more interesting. And another tip I will say is that always go for a unique angle. Never want to choose something that you've kind of seen everywhere because that is sort of the perfect formula to just get a very boring looking corporate style interview. And if you look at a lot of unique interviews online or, you know, great documentaries on HBO or Netflix, you'll notice that a lot of times the framing and the composition is very unique, something that you typically would never see in a corporate style video, and that's part of what drives the story and makes the interview interesting and makes the audience want to keep viewing. Okay, so those are a few quick tips, and now let's mom to the next lesson where I'm going to talk about ns choice. 4. Lens Choice Matters: Okay, so in this lesson, I'm going to talk about lens choice. So lenses are more than just a lens. A lot of times when you're starting out, you just kind of see this as, Oh, that's just a lens. It came with my camera. Lenses are like film stocks. Lenses have a lot of character or they have different styles. So lenses are very, very sharp from edge to edge, like new lenses. So lenses are a little bit softer. And then, of course, you're talking about how wide is that lens? Is it a very tight lens? Is it a wide lens? Is it a extremely wide lens? And so what I'm really getting at is that if you get anything out of this lesson, it's to put thought into what you're framing and what your lens choice does. For example, on this setup here for my classes, I do have a wider shot because this is a smaller office. As I mentioned before, I am separating my from the background, so I have some separation and so that I pop forward compared to me being up against a wall. Then in some of the footage that you've seen in the intro, I went a completely different direction with the lens. My a camera, which is the main camera, I was shooting instead of this lens here is a 28 millimeter equivalent. Definitely on the wider angle side. For my more cinematic intro that you saw earlier, I had a 38 millimeter lens, which is tighter. The lighting was also differently, but that lens that I chose, I intentionally chose to be a little bit tighter because it's a little bit softer, it's not super crisp, it's not super sharp, and it just has a more natural organic film like quality to it. And that's one of those traits that can make a big difference between having a lens that's super, super sharp, where you can see every pore in someone's face. You can see every detail. That usually does not work for cinematic style shooting. That type of super tack sharp lens usually works for things like nature documentaries. If you want to shoot in an Arctica or, you know, in a desert and you want to see every grain of sand, that's where these very high end super modern, super sharp lenses tend to work better. Again, to circle back to everything, it's about putting thought into how your lens looks, and a lot of it is practice. Practice makes perfect. So if I were to give you a tip, it's to become a student of different lenses, old lenses, new lenses, different manufacturers so they can see what kind of look they have. And then you'll get to the point where you'll be able to think of a shot, think of a scene, and know, Oh, I should probably go with a 50 millimeter lens, an old vintage cannon lens with an FD mount, and you'll start thinking that way. You'll start learning what those things mean. And that will be a huge head start for beginners who tend to simply just grab a lens that came with their camera. Put it on there and hit record. Okay, so in the next lesson, we're going to get into some of the fun stuff. I'm going to show you how I lit that intro, and we're going to start jumping into what exact cure was used in some of those principles. So I'll see you in the next lesson. 5. Lighting Techniques: Okay, so now let's talk about my lighting setup and what I did exactly. So I'm just going to go through here shooting on my iPhone because it's the most mobile, the most versatile phone so that you can really see what I'm doing. So what I did is really based off of an idea called a book light and really the principles of getting very nice soft cinematic lighting. So those principles are basically having a very large light source, the largest light source you can have, making sure that light is very soft, very diffused. Let me switch around here really quick. Okay. So here you can see my light source, and this is my main light source. And so what you can see here is that this is actually five feet across, okay, and eight feet up and down. I mean, here, this is an actual cinema cloth that I have here set up on a C stand, and if I go to the back here. Okay so here's the back. What I have, you know, is this very basic Amaran 60 X. It's set to 80% 5,600 Kelvin degrees. I have this here, which diffuses the light as it's coming out. And then here, we have the diffusion cloth set on a C stand. Here. And then I have this kind of cross bar that I put in. I I zoom in, kind of show you what I did. This metallic bar here is something that I simply got at a Hardward store. It's just a half inch pipe so that I can squeeze it through a C stand. And then I clip the pipe through the C stand. Very basic, very affordable setup. Probably the most expensive thing here is the C stand, but you can actually get these pretty cheap now, about $100. And so that's the setup. And the key to this is that you have a very large light source. 80% here, 5,600 Kelvin, diffused through the initial diffusion here, which then makes it this large five foot by eight foot light, you know. So don't look at this as a small light here that I'm using. Really, this is like having a five foot by eight foot light that's double diffused, double softened, which is what creates this very nice soft, cinematic wraparound lighting that you see here on the image. Now, it's not a hard light, it's not a harsh light. It's what you see. That's how light wraps around an image very nicely and creates something like this. So that's the key large light source, diffused, double diffused, maybe even triple diffused placing it in a position that's subjective up to you so that the image looks nice and soft in how you want it to look. And this is basically a two light setup. This is the second light that I have here. It's just a 1 ft tube light set to 33% power and also set to 5,600 Kelvin degrees. Again, I just have a basic light stand here, sandbag so it does not fall over. And I got the grip head from my C stand. This is actually the grip head from the other C stand that I showed you. I put it on just a typical light stand that's maybe 15 to $20 US and that's it. Then I have the arm coming out, this 1 ft tub light screws on the end, 33%, and that is what creates the back light that you are seeing. Here, yes and something else that I will say about having a nice, large light source is that you really don't always need a fill light. Again, don't think of this as something that's a science or math, where one plus one equals two. It's creativity. It's how you want it to look. And if you have a giant light source like this one here, that's five by eight foot, you may not need a fill light. If you feel that you need one, that's great. But as a matter of fact, most of the time someone might actually put a flag up, just a large black flag kind of like this to add shadow to that side because the light source is so large that it wraps around. So very simple lighting setup, and you're seeing all this stuff come together with location, with camera placement, with lens choice, a very basic large, soft light as your key light and a back light. So let's move on to the next lesson. 6. Proper Exposure: A common question that I get a lot when shooting something is, how do you know that something is properly exposed from everything from this class here to the intro that you saw to anything, how do you know? Once you put lights up, once you set your camera up, you pick your lenses and everything, how do you know? Well, there's a lot of different ways to know, but one that I want to go over now because it's very commonly accessible is something called false color. Right now a lot of on camera monitors come with false color. And the way they basically work is that when you turn them on, there's a little kind of chart at the bottom, where one end of the chart is the blacks or the shadows. The very far right is the bright highlight areas. For example, this window would be a bright highlight area. This back corner here under my desk, that would be the shadows. My skin, you know, my sweater would be the midtone and that chart kind of makes this funny multi colored image, but it will tell you if the skin tones are in the right place, if the shadows are in the right place, if the highlights are blown out, if something is too bright, and it's a very easy, accurate way to be able to determine if your image is properly exposed, but it's a great tool that comes on pretty much every on camera monitor, and it's one of those tools that you should definitely learn how to use. Now I'm going to show you a short clip that I recorded while I was shooting this class that kind of will give you a very quick rundown of using false color. You know, here you can see my image. And that question is typically, Okay, I have all this stuff set up. So how do I know I'm exposing it properly? Again, nothing that I'm working with is expensive, high end gear, and false color. If I turn this on, that happens. Okay? You can see that you have this bar at the bottom, okay? This bar right here. And typically, you have zero here, which is black. It's underexposed. The window here, you can see it's bright red, bright pink. That means something's overexposed. When you use these guys, it's really just kind of guidelines so that you know when something is very hot, very blown out with something you see my shirt here, which is a black shirt. I I turn it off, you can see it's a black shirt, so it's going to read as very dark. And typically for skin tones, regardless of your skin tone, you want skin tones to usually lie between this range here in the greens, which is between I'd say 60 to 80, okay? This is, again, a range of zero to 100 and skin tones for most people, you want them to lie 60-80. So why such a broad range? The answer to that is because, I mean, again, it's an art form. The question is, do you want your image to look brighter, kind of like a TV commercial, or darker, which is a little bit more cinematic. So if you're wanting something to go a little bit more cinematic, you might be on 65 to 70, maybe even lower. It's a creative choice. It's stylistic choice. If you want something to be more high key, brighter, more like a TV commercial, then you might have your skin tone set to something brighter. I'm filming so you can see what it looks like. You can see how my skin tones are in the greens, which is how I'm lighting it. The background window is also bright, but it's not totally blown out, and everything is where I want it to be creative. So in the next lesson, I'm going to kind of bring everything together. I'm going to take the two cameras, cut them together, and kind of show you what I did in the opening intro of my sort of fake Netflix documentary. So let's go on to the next lesson. 7. Bonus: Basic Color Grade: What's up, guys. So in this lesson, I'm just going to do a quick basic grade. I'm going to show you what I did with my footage, tell you a little bit about the camera I shot on and just a little bit about my workflow. This is not a color grading class. I do have other color grading classes, so make sure to check those out. However, this is just to show you kind of where the footage started and where it ended. So let's jump right in. Okay, so you can see here this is obviously the final image. We go into full screen, you can see the final image there. And this is the final image of the close and now I will kind of show you where we started. So first of all, this was the original image. I shot on the Fuji film XH two camera in four K, and just as a basic workflow thing, I shot in Fuji log, F Log one. And a way to do that is once you get a log image in DabnciRsolve, for example, this, then once I brought in the clip, I just right click go to input color space, and then I made sure that I selected the input color space as Fuji film Flog because I shot in that Flog format Fuji film FlogO. So it basically took the footage and brought it out of log, whereas if I were to click here, for example, actually, I'll go back here. If I were to go here and say, Bypass color management, you can see this is what the original shot looked like, fully log, okay. And then once I applied the input color space, I did that to it. And this, by the way, is what I saw on my monitor as I was shooting because I also have a F log to Rec seven oh nine ut or lookup table in my monitor. Now, most on camera monitors, just like I mentioned in the previous lesson, that they have false color. Most monitors also have a very simple way to convert your log footage into a Rec seven oh nine. They typically have Lutz. Advice I can give you for this lesson is if you have it on camera monitor, go in there, play with the menu because every monitor is different, look for Luts and then apply a ut that will go from whatever your camera is. If you're shooting on Sony, it would be S log to Rec seven oh nine or Fuji film, F log, Cannon, C log to Rec 709, just so you can see this image here. And so it's not the super flat image here. Okay, so enough about that. And so, yeah, so this was the original image. Let me go into full screen. And then with the first look that I did, it gave me that look. And the next look, I did that, and then the next node, that's on the face, as you can see. I'm going to break these down in a little bit, by the way, so don't worry if I'm going too fast before, after. It was darker. And then the last look. And then I applied that kind of film emulation mode to it. Actually used a Fuji film, ternaFlmstock, emulation to kind of take it from a kind of video look to colors that are a little bit more cinematic, okay? So now that's just so you can see it in full screen. And then with those adjustments, you know, it's just, you know, as the name here says, it's a base grade. I applied the put color space conversion to Rex in nine, and then I just basically tweaked the contrast, tweaked the color temperature, and adjusted the tint. You know, I can't really tell you how much or why I went this far because, again, it's an art form, your shot will look different. And that's just to show you what I did here. I got a good starting point for my exposure. So I just needed a little bit of a contrast tweak, a little bit of color temperature and tint adjustments. And then I was happy with the base grade. And that gave me this look. Before, after. And the next one was kind of a little bit of a more interesting thing. I used the magic mask tool, okay? And if you go here, what the magic mask tool basically does, it helps you separate objects, whether it's a person, whether it's an animal, whether it's a plant, whatever it is, you select an object and it helps you separate that object, so you can make adjustments just to a specific part of the image, okay? So in this case, turn on the magic mask here, okay? And you can see that what I actually did was, I wanted to go with kind of a cool, warm look. So I selected the background and cooled it off to again make myself pop from the background. And if I do this, you can see this is what I selected. And that's basically it. And to kind of give you a quick preview of how you use the magic mask, it's actually very simple. You simply go to the magic mask tab here, and then it's so easy that it might be a little confusing that it's so easy you'll want to see more steps. But you see these two dots here. I simply clicked on my face, and it selected my face. I clicked on my body, I selected my body. This is what it actually did at first. And then I went here and I did the blur radius to kind of soften my outline a little bit, and so that I kind of blend in a little bit better with the background. And then I just went here and clicked here to reverse the selection and say that what I actually want to effect is the background and not myself. Okay. So I did that, and then I just simply so I went here to the HDR tools. I went to the global setting, and then I just simply pushed things into this kind of teal area. So basically, I created sort of a teal and orange look. And then on my third node, very easy, I simply Ed my face. So I went into the Ker tool. I selected my face. It selects just my skin tones. And then from there is where I added a little bit of warmth and raised the highlights. Like that. So in the HDR tool, you can see that I went in here and I raised the exposure a little bit just to give my skin a little bit more of a pop before after, before, after. And then as my last node, resolve does have a film look emulator, and I used that to kind of take my shot. You'll see it'll be kind of a somewhat subtle change. It was here and then it went here before, after. There we go. And again, this is just a creative choice. I could go through and show you every dial that I hit, but it really wouldn't do you good because really what I want from you is take your footage, play with the film look emulator. Remember, it's all creative choices. There's no right and wrong. So you going in there, playing with the knobs and the switches and everything like that and create a look that works for your project. So that was basically it. So again, to wrap up, it was the base grade, magic mask, pop on my face, film look emulator. Then I basically did the same thing here. This was the original image. Same thing, base grade adjustment, magic mask, skin tones, make them pop a little bit. And then I brought down the overall look just to match the two cameras. This camera was a little bit brighter than the first shot, and so I brought it down to match the shots, and then film Look emulator. And that's what created the two looks here. Okay, so that's it. Again, that's just a quick overview of what I did with the original clips, shot and Log, how I applied a quick grade to create the look that I wanted. If you want to know more about color grading, definitely check out my other color grading courses. I have classes for everyone from absolute beginners to more advanced people, so check those out. And now let's move on to the final lesson. 8. Final Thoughts: Okay, so that's the class. I hope you got a lot out of it. Again, this was a kind of quick, basic getting started on cinematic techniques, cinematic lighting, creating cinematic interviews. Any questions, please ask in the discussions below. And for this project, I also want you to go out, shoot something cinematic, upload it for me to see, and I'd be happy to give you feedback. This is my first of kind of cinematography classes. I typically do color grading classes, but I have been shooting for a while now and want to bring more classes like this. To Skillshare. Also, I always like to hear what you want to see. So in the discussions, let me know what sort of cinematography filmmaking classes you want to see. And thanks again, and I'll see y'all later.