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1. Introduction: The path of accretive is never linear and it's easy
to get discouraged. Having the right
tools to push through these challenges is what makes a good creative, a great one. Hi, my name is Allison Keeler and I'm a graphic
designer and illustrator. Many times throughout my career, I've come across
these challenges where I've lost touch with my own inner voice and I've
had to reconnect with it. So that's what this
class is about because I truly believe that
everyone is creative. As kids, our imagination is
encouraged and fostered. It's okay to be a
beginner and it's okay to wonder about things. But as we grow up,
these skills are not fostered in the same way. And many of us lose
touch with what we consider our inner
creative voice. So that's what this
class is about. We're gonna go through
five exercises to not only help you reconnect
with your inner creativity, but to strengthen
that relationship. So moving forward, you
can tackle any challenge. For your class project. You are going to create
a visual journal to explore your creativity
in a low stress way, and to document your progress as you move through the exercises. Each exercise, Lucas's on a different part
of your practice. In exercise one, we will figure out what makes
you feel creative. In exercise three, we will figure out what
your creativity looks like to get a
better understanding of how you work with it. And didn't exercise five, we will learn how
to intentionally approached the
world from a place of wonder and curiosity
on a creative journey. There are many times
when you're gonna get stuck and you need to have
the tools to push threat, whether it's your
profession or hobby. When you hit a wall, you need to have
a way around it, even if it's just resting and trying
again in the morning. This class is for
anyone who feels stuck in their creative
practice or wants to understand themselves and their inner creativity better
to make the journey easier. I've created a blog for you to guide you
through the exercises. By the end of the class,
you'll not only have a completed quests log
any visual journal, but a better understanding of
how you work as a creative. So let's get started.
2. Your Class Project: Our class project is going
to be a visual journal that documents your quest as you move away from the inner
voice that says no, and towards the endless
possibilities that await you. By the end of the class, you'll not only have a
completed quests log, but a visual journal
of your request. Any better relationship with your creativity and what you want out of your
creative practice. This project is a fun, low stress way to
explore your creativity. Most cases, I find
that we get in our own way when it comes
to our creative practice. This class, and specifically this project is meant to
get you out of your head. Here are a few examples that
I made of a visual journal. You can go for a more
digital version where you can draw one or you can
even cut out magazines, scraps and do it like a
more traditional collage. Anything that works
best for you to set yourself up for
success with this class. I'm encouraging you
to do two things. One, to keep your
mind open as you move through the exercises and to, to check perfectionism
at the door. You'll need a few
things for this class, including the resource book
at the Creative Quest law, which I created for you. Inside, you'll find
decorative inventory, which focuses on figuring out what's missing in your
creative practice. The creative schedule,
which focuses on creating time around it. The most productive
parts of your day. Your inner daimon, which focuses on your
creative identity, as well as the identity
of your creativity. Your creative support group, which focuses on building up relationships that
foster your creativity. And finally, the artists quest, which is all about changing your perspective and doing things a little bit differently. And finally, you'll
need anything that you need for your own
creative practice. Before the main lessons, make sure that you
download the workbook, grab any supplies
that you might need, and really quiet that
inner voice that says now. So I'll see you in
the first lesson.
3. Exercise 1: Taking Inventory: When movies, when an
adventurer gets lost in the wilderness and they need to figure out
where they are. They always end up
climbing a tree or a hill. They're trying to look for
landmarks to pinpoint where they are so they can figure
out which direction to go. Well, that's what we're gonna
be doing in this lesson. We're going to be figuring
out where we need to go by figuring out where we currently are with our
creative practice. Everyone is creative, full stop. It would always make me really sad when somebody would see my work and they would
say, wow, that's amazing. I could never do that. I'm not creative. What are you talking about? Of course, your creative.
Let me break it down. When you were a
kid, you probably played with blocks, right? That's creative. Maybe as you were growing up, you heard from somebody, creativity is nice but not a
great way to make a living. So now you've pursued
a career where you're not inherently
in a creative field. And you think, well, I'm not creative anymore. Well, maybe you came up with a kickback way to reduce
companies spending. Or maybe you wrote a really awesome e-mail but smooth over some friction
with the client. Both of those things are creative or maybe
you're not there yet. Maybe you're a student and you wrote a really awesome paper comparing the
cellular structure of desert plants versus
tropical plants. That's creative and creativity. Does he even have to be
related to your profession? There are creative
acts in everyday life. Watering your plants,
singing in the shower, cooking, looking at clouds
and imagining shapes. These are all creative acts. I believe that we all kinda have to persona's inside of us. Let me know if this
is true for you. But for myself, I definitely
have a more impulsive, childlike persona that's playful and curious about the world. And then on the other hand, there's a more
serious inner critic, as I call it, which pays the
bills and edits my work. It's important to recognize
these voices when you hear them and not let them
interfere with your work. It's also important
to recognize that neither these voices is bad. They each have pros and cons. Introducing the inner
critic too soon can kill an idea before it has a
chance to be fully formed. You know that part
of the project when you're staring
at your work and it's lumpy halfway stage and
you can see the structure, but you're not quite
sure how it's going to come together yet
half the time I end up just throwing
the entire idea away if I let my inner critic
in on the conversation. And sometimes when I listened
to my inner child too much, I end up distracted, unfocused, and usually avoiding the editing stage because I'm chasing the next idea already. Alright, at this point, let's pull out our creative
inventory worksheets. At some point you decided
that you either don't feel creative or
you would like to be more creative. That's great. That's a great place to start. It's really good to know
where you are right now. But let's break it down. When was the last time that
you felt truly creative? This time could be last week or it could
be ten years ago. It could be when you were a kid. Whenever. Let's just break
down that moment and write down those things on our creative
inventory worksheet. As you do this exercise
focused on what can be gained and
not what is missing. You want to notice the
past but not lamented. You want to focus
on what you can be doing for yourself tomorrow. So on the left here I have describe your ideal
creative situation. What's the location? Are you outside? Inside? Are you
in a coffee shop? Are you at home? Where is this location
for people who surrounds you when you feel
creative for surroundings? Are you sitting in
the comfy chair? Are you sitting in one of those chairs that helps
you sit up super street? Are you laying down? Are you standing up at one of
those fancy standing desk? What are the surroundings? What is the time of day? What sounds around you? Do you need it to be
absolutely quiet, or can music be playing
for sustenance? Do you work best
on a full stomach? Do you need a fancy
green tea latte? What do you need to feel good? And wardrobe? What are you wearing? Are you in a professional
wear or can you work really well in sweats if you're having trouble thinking of any answers. Think back to that time when
you felt really creative. In the top right, I have one was the last time that
you felt really creative. If you'd like to
do this question first and then use this answer to inform your ideal
creative situation. Go ahead and do that. And finally, when
I do these things, I feel very creative. What are the things that fill
you up with inspiration? What are the things that
inspire you to create? Spend about 15 to 20 minutes filling out your
creative inventory. Really try to imagine yourself in that time that
you felt creative. Look around and write
the things down that you see for myself
in this exercise, I wrote for location. I love to work in coffee
shops or at home. At this point in my career, I have a whole little desk
setup that's hard to move. But for simple stuff, I enjoy working around
other people. For people I love to work with close friends or by myself. Close friends are
good when I need to take a break and we can chat. I used to be super bad about
just working with 0 breaks. So having others around can
really help regulate me. Although sometimes
when they need to really focus
and do deep work, Being alone as butter for me
to focus because it takes a long time to refocus
for surroundings. I use an ergonomic chair
and then ergonomic mouse, which are great if you work
all day from a desk for time, my most productive hours are
between 10:00 AM, 02:00 PM. For sounds, I need to listen to music that doesn't have lyrics. If I'm writing like lo-fi beats to study
or relaxed to you. Or sometimes I can
listen to other music if I'm just doing design
work, noise canceling, ear buds are a godsend
though, for sustenance, I almost always
have some sort of Warren caffeinated
beverage around. I think I've accidentally
trained myself to be productive and creative when I have these kinds of beverages. Finally, for wardrobe,
I usually am wearing comfy clothes when
it's more casual work, but when I need
to be productive, I have to dress
up more formally. In your visual journal, you can write, draw, or express this ideal
creative situation. In this lesson, you learned
that everyone is creative and there are creative acts
in our day-to-day lives. That we have two persona's
inside us as creatives. And it's important to recognize them and not let them
affect your work. In the next lesson, we're
gonna be talking about being consistent and
showing up for yourself. See you there.
4. Exercise 2: Show Up for Yourself: Everyone knows that the
real secret to making fantastic work is
to be consistent. I'm sure you've heard
on social media post three to five times a week, post every day, post
three meals a day. Well, that's a little
home possible, but being consistent with
your creative practice, even when you don't share, it, is a great way to make leaps and bounds and progress with
your creative practice. You will need your creative
schedule worksheet from the log as well as
anything that you need in your own
creative practice. Most of the artists
that we regard as truly prolific are only that
way because of this year, the volume of work
that they made. Picasso famously made close
to 50 thousand pieces of artwork in his lifetime. And Beethoven wrote
close to 700 pieces of music over the
course of his life. And obviously that's insane. But the point is that if
you continue to make work, you will uncover a few
gems in your lifetime. Pull out your creative schedule on this worksheet
we're focusing on specifically when you feel creative as a working
professional, I understand how hard it
can be to balance life, but you don't have to be
making a big project. You can just carve out 15 minutes a day to
feel more creative. And I found that that
works really well for me. Sure, I don't make as big of chunks of progress
as I would like, but I'm still slowly chipping away at my creative practice. On your creative
schedule worksheet, I have two questions. When do you feel creative? When do you have time? And can you make time? This all centers
around balancing life with when you
have energy to be creative and under what conditions do
you feel creative? This touches on a little
bit in the last worksheet, but is more specifically
focused on the time. Then to the right, I have the whole schedule split out
into different time groups. Go through this
chart and mark the times that you feel
the most creative. It might not be the same times every day for people
that are productive. First thing in the morning, they say that working
first thing in the morning gets
your momentum going. The first hour of the day is the most productive
hour for night owls. Maybe you like to
wake up slow and do other tasks in the morning and your energy comes at night. One makes sure that
you get enough sleep, but maybe you enjoy
working while everything is quiet and
still in the world, middle of the day people. This is my ten to two crew. I would consider myself
a morning person, but like at ten AM
morning person, not super early, but also not super late and a
three to six people. Who are you? I'm very impressed. This is where I personally have a natural low and my energy. But do you see the
connecting thread? It's not about forcing
your creativity. It's about learning
what works for you. Create when you feel the
most full of energy. For myself, I wrote that I am most productive
between 10:00 AM, 02:00 PM, followed closely
by 06:00 PM, ten PM. Occasionally on the weekend, I'll have a lot more luck working first thing in
the morning as well. The conditions that I work best under our being well-rested, hydrated, and
consistently creating. Well, you might be wondering, I have a full-time job and I am also created between
10:00 AM, 02:00 PM. What can I do? I try to carve out at least
15 minutes of time from my lunch break to do a little
bit of art for myself. Whether that's just sketching an idea or looking
for inspiration, whatever I feel like
doing that day, I tried to do at least one
thing creative for myself. Spend about 15
minutes filling out this worksheet and
really thinking about the times that you
feel creative. And I would challenge you
for this week to spend at least 15 minutes a day trying to work on
something creative. It doesn't have to be big. You don't have to
make a masterpiece. Just try and do
something a little bit creative during that time
in your visual journal, you can write or draw specific times that
you feel creative. Or you can find photos that express this ideal
creative time. So now we know that the
real secret is consistency. Practices the only
way to get better. And even when it's hard and even find it stinks,
that's okay. Because the point is that we're stretching our creative muscles. In this lesson, you learned
that consistency is the key to making progress
in your creative practice. You learn that Picasso
and Beethoven are such prolific creators because of how much work they make. And you found when you specifically have time for
your creative practice. The next lesson, I'm
going to be chatting with you about how I
approach creativity.
5. Short Rest: Your Inner Creativity: I want to tell you a little
bit about how I came across these ideas and how I
approach creativity. There almost seems
to be this nebulous, mythical quality to creativity that I find to be
really interesting. Artists are seen as a vessel to the divine
in a lot of cases, which if you have a creative profession
and it's your day job, it's not super
convenient because it's not every day that you get
a visit from the divine. I like TED Talks, I'm
not afraid to admit it. And there's this
one by the author of Eat Pray, Love
Elizabeth Gilbert. That's just really fantastic. And she talks about
how people would come up to her and asked her if she was afraid that she would
never reach the heights again after she wrote,
Eat, Pray, Love. And there's this
conversation that she had with the
poet Ruth Stone. I don't want to give away
the whole topic because it's really fantastic and
you should go watch it. But this poet used to work in
the fields during the day. And she said that she
could almost hear poems coming at her
from across the hills. And she would have to run back to her house and
hope that she could find a pencil in time
so that she could break down the poem as
it passed through her. If she didn't make it in time, then the poem would go on it's
way to find somebody else. So there's a real
sense of urgency here. There was one day
that she was running and she almost
didn't make it in. The poem had passed through her, but she grabbed it by its
tail and started to pull it back towards her writing
with her other hand. And she ended up
writing the poem perfectly from the last
word, the first word. And I think that this is a really great
illustration of what I mean by creativity
is its own entity. This has been really
popular throughout the years and I need really
throughout the years, it's gone by many names. Amuse, a genie, a gin, a daemon, et cetera. And Damon is my favorite one. It comes from ancient Greece. And it was a benign spirit that existed between
the gods and man. They were responsible for whispering inspiration
into your ear. And now, I don't think that creativity may be
a separate entity, but I think that it might be
helpful for our purposes. No matter what you
believe there is a mythical quality
to creativity, it can come and go. But here's the good news. You don't have to wait for
inspiration to strike. But if you and your creativity
as a separate entity, You can care for it as such, nurturing and
allowing it to rest. So as we move forward
through the lessons, keep in mind this
physical manifestation of your creativity because
we're gonna be using it in the next
lesson as we explore identity and how that relates
to your inner demons.
6. Exercise 3: Your Inner Daemons: As I've gotten older, I've
noticed like getting to know yourself as a truly
intentional act. And this really interested me because as a
graphic designer, I create identities
for a living. So as I was navigating
interviews and dates and other places where
I was meeting new people. I noticed that we were
having the same sorts of surface level conversations. What do you do? What's
your favorite color? What's your favorite
type of food? And I swear as soon as
I hear these questions, my mind just
completely goes blank. Which is interesting because
I feel like as a kid, I knew the answers
to these questions, like right off the bat. I knew what my
favorite dinosaur was. I knew what my
favorite color was. I knew what my favorite part
of my favorite movie was. So I'm inviting you to revisit some of these
questions with me as we explore our creative
identities and how that relates to
our inner creativity. Time to intentionally
good to know yourself, you will need to enter
Damon worksheets from the Quest slog and the questions
that I have for you are, What's the most magical
or surprising connection that you've had with a stranger. And how did that
situation happen? What do you want more
of in your life? What would your younger self be surprised by in your life today? And if you could have
any super power, what would it be and why spend about 20 to 30 minutes filling out your first inner
daimon worksheet. What are some things
that surprised you about your life today? Think about times that felt
truly out of the ordinary. What happened? For myself? I wrote about a time
when I was walking down the street and I noticed
this really cool individual. And as I pass them, they reached out to
me and they said, Hey, you seem like a
really cool person. Don't let anyone mess with you. I definitely want more
spontaneity in my life. I'm very planning oriented. My younger self would
definitely be surprised that I work in a creative
field professionally. I don't even think
I knew that was an option when I was a kid. And the superpower I'd want is that whatever beverage I have, hot or cold, it would always be the perfect
drinking temperature. And the second
worksheet is focused on this separate creative entity that I'm calling
your inner daimon. What does your
creativity look like? What if it had
form, draw, right? So et cetera. Imagine what it would be like
to talk to your creativity. Use that space to write
about your inner creativity. Really try to imagine what it would look
like if it was real, is the disparate, nebulous and pulsing with
iridescent light? Is it a butterfly or
a blade of grass? Or is it you as a kid with
a drawing of a house, or does it look like
a six headed monster with wings and horns? Then I've left space for you
to draw what it looks like. And at the bottom,
I have a space for you to write anything
that you'd like. You could write the
level of your creativity or what inventory
your creativity has. What does your creativity
carry around with it? And this is for no other
reason than it's just fun. Spend about 20 to 30 minutes filling out your second
inner daimon worksheet. What does your creativity look? Sound and act like? Spend some time
reading about and visualizing your
creative entity. For myself, I wrote that my creativity would
definitely look like a very kind but
slightly off humanoid. Maybe they'd have a third eye or other indicators that
they aren't quite human. They'd be soft-spoken
and gentle, but sassy, definitely
very logical, but would meditate and
be still when need be full of wonder at
the world around them. Their inventory,
they'd have tweaks, rocks and other
trinkets at the desert. They'd be in Level ten
creativity, Damon, I have no idea how
many levels there are, but Level ten seems good. So my challenge for
you is to fill out these two worksheets and
really spend time like seriously considering
what your creativity looks like because you can carry this forward into whatever project that you're doing in your visual journal, you can draw this
creative entity or include the drawing
that we've already done. Or you can find images
online that truly feel like the aesthetic
of your creativity, whatever helps you to imagine it as a separate entity
other than yourself. In this lesson, you learned
that learning about yourself is an integral part of the creative practice
and you need to make time to intentionally
sit down and do it. And we also went over
imagining your creativity as a separate entity in order to have a better
relationship with it. In the next lesson, we are
going to be going over how to build up a
creative support network.
7. Exercise 4: Your Creative Support Group: For this lesson, we're
gonna be focusing on building up your
creative support network. So who are the players in your
creative support network? Are they the people
that you can go to when you need to brainstorm? Are they the people that you can go to when you don't
feel creative? Or are they the people
that build you up and hype you up when you
have great ideas. These could all be
the same person, but we want to focus on
who's on your bench, who are your creative
height people. As a freelancer, it really
felt like I was working alone. Even now as I work from home, it's still feels that way. So I think that we
need to be super intentional about
building connections. I really think that social
media is a great tool for connection because
there are so many friends that I made through social media that I would've
never had a chance of connecting with because they live halfway around the globe. But I think that we
need to be intentional about building actual
genuine connections. I've started to learn Spanish
on Duolingo this year. And there's always
this little blurb that pops up that says you are 70% more likely to finish
your language course. If you follow friends. 70% more likely to finish
your language course. That's insane, which I think is a really good case
study for any habit. Building. Any habit that's hard
for us to build is much easier if you are
accountable to somebody else. So think about those when you're building up your
creative practice, it truly is a habit
in and of itself. It's much easier to do it
when you're not alone. So pull out your creative
support group worksheet. I split this up into three
different categories. Your writer dies. These are the people who
are your inner circle. They know you, you know them. You can always go to
them for support, your mutual secret admirers. Maybe you follow these people on social media and you just
don't talk that much, but you always like
each other's posts. And finally, your casual fans. These are people that
support you and follow you, but maybe it's more
distant. For myself. I wrote that my writer dies or my Instagram followers
and I personally know and longtime friends and family for mutual
secret and Myers, I wrote Instagram followers that are mutual followers
they may not talk to. And acquaintances that
I know in real life. And my casual fans are
my Instagram followers, I don't know, and old friends. Before moving onto
the next lesson, try and spend about ten
to 15 minutes writing two or three names in
each of these categories. Then reach out to at
least one person and tell them about your artists quest
in your visual journal, you can include photos or drawings of your creative
support network. Or if you feel that
you don't have those people in your
life right now, try writing about what
you would like to see in those relationships so
that when they do come along, you can recognize them. In this lesson, you learned
about the different types of people that exist in your
creative support network. And you also learn that
doing things as part of a group is way easier
than doing it alone. So reaching out to
people on social media is a great way to build your
creative support network. In the next lesson, we're
gonna be focusing on changing our perspective
and embracing them. Wonder that's available
in the world.
8. Exercise 5: Artist Quest: In this lesson, we are going
to be exploring perspective and embracing the wonder
that's available in the world. Because trust me, it's
abundant and not just in big moments like
an epic road trip or seeing a friend get married. It's available in everyday life. You will need your
artists quests, worksheet from the log. There's this term from Zen Buddhism called
the beginner's mind. And essentially what it
means is that you abandon your ideas about what it
means to exist in the world. And you really ask yourself, why we do things a certain
way or how things work. Being a beginner definitely
has a negative connotation, especially as an adult, because you're supposed to
know everything already. But I think it was Jake, the dog that said
sucking at something is the first step to
being good at something. So that's what I'm going to encourage you to do
in this exercise. Be radical. Suck at something. Dance around, flail your limbs just because it feels good. Singing in the shower badly. Make art that's
just for your eyes. There are so many people
out there that don't do things because they're afraid of what
other people think. They don't even try. Try. There's this great
book called On Looking, a walkers guide to the
art of observation. And the author talks
about going on a walk over a city
block and just talking about how boring it was and how there
wasn't much to look at. But then she took the same walk with a variety of experts, entomologist, geologists, architects, all those
sorts of people. And she talks about how the all pointed out
different things to her and how the same
walk widths transformed. There's so much in the
world to see and wonder about if you give yourself
the space and time to do so. You don't have to have a field of experts
at your disposal, but you can still ask yourself why something is the way it is, or ask yourself how
we do certain things. Allow yourself to step
back and be a beginner. There's this great project
that Stefan Sagmeister dead for the music venue casa
de music in Portugal. He wanted to create a
project that wasn't just another facade of a building and he wasn't
sure how to start. So he used this method that's called the Edward
de Bono approach, which is where you start with a completely separate
idea or object. And your brain trust to figure out how the two are related, which opens up new
pathways in your brain. And he came up with
this idea where they would use every
facade of the building. And they created a custom
software that pulls colors from whatever media they are presenting
the logo width, such as a painting of Beethoven when they were
featuring his work. And each color from the painting
would populate the logo. A completely new and
novel approach to logo design that he found by
just looking out his window, if you're having trouble
accessing the beginner's mind, try role-playing as
yourself as a kid. What would your self at age 12? Think of this, or age
eight or even age for what kinds of questions
would they be asking? So for our last exercise, we are going to be
going on a quest and then take out your
artists quest worksheet. This worksheet is
meant to help you document your artists quest. The purpose of the
artists quest is to do things that you
might not normally do. But the most important aspect is that you're setting
a goal to achieve. There should be a
clear checkpoint at the end in the first box, right down your objective, I'll give you a few
examples of good ones. They don't have to be
related to your work. In fact, I would actively encourage you to think
of one that isn't. This is meant to get you
out of your head and interacting with the
world in a new way. Go find a Ferris wheel, take it to the top. Leave notes in your
favorite books in a bookstore for
future readers. Go to an art supply store and buy as much glitter
or confetti or little glittery
stickers as you can find and do a photo
shoot with your friends. Try to find as many
cloud shaped like drafts as you can
for the entire day. Every staircase you come across, slide down the rail. No exceptions. Go to a restaurant and
order your meal backwards. Desert on trade than appetizer, take a class at your
local community center, find the most ridiculous
car accessory that you can find and buy it. You could even go to your local botanical gardens
and spend some time with some butterflies as a
creative professional that works primarily at a
desk behind a computer, I find that I get a lot of
energy and a lot of joy for being around nature and being around a different
sort of environment. Not only was it an opportunity
to get away from my desk, but I ended up seeing
an atlas model, which is a rare sighting because they only
live for a week. Look how dry it is. Next, write down any
potential obstacles. This could be something
like overcoming fear, entering a new space that
feels intimidating or not having the materials
to learn a new skill, etc. And finally, after you're
done with your artists quest, write about how it went. Did you surprise yourself? Did you make a new friend? Did it end in complete disaster? And if it did, why
did that happen? And what can you do
differently next time, spend about 15 minutes filling out the details about
your artist's gloss. Be very specific about your goal and make sure
it's something that you can actually do and then go
do it in your visual journal. You can document
your artists quest. You can come up with
ideas for new ones. Or you could even imagine what your highest self or you as a kid would do in
these situations. In this lesson, you
learned from unlocking that there is wonder
available everywhere. And that new ideas
can be sparked by random objects that create new neurological
pathways in your brain. And that the beginner's
mind is a way to continuously learn and be
curious about the world. That was the last lesson. I'll see you in the wrap-up
for final thoughts.
9. Wrap Up: Thank you so much for
taking this class. I hope you enjoyed it. In this class, you learn
that checking in with yourself every once in a
while is a really good idea. Find out what makes
you feel creative. Visualizing your creativity
as a separate entity is a great way to have a healthier relationship with your creativity moving forward. And utilizing a tool like the beginner's mind
is a great way to open yourself up to new wonders that are
available in the world. Please post your
visual journals and any work in progress in
the project gallery tab. I would love to take
a look at what you're creating if you'd like
to connect with me, all of my information
on where to find me on the Internet is on
my teacher page. Thank you again and remember,
everyone is creative. See you later.