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Online Extreme Vocal Course Growling, Screaming, Distorted singing and Harsh Vocals Tutorial

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Lessons in This Class

    • 1.

      Introduction

      2:29

    • 2.

      Part 1 How To Breathe Right

      3:53

    • 3.

      Part 2 The Most Important Breathing Technique

      5:11

    • 4.

      Part 3A - Different Breath Tecniques For Different Situations

      6:36

    • 5.

      Part 3B - Different Breath Tecniques For Different Situations

      3:19

    • 6.

      Part 4A - 5 step practice to bring out your inner voice

      3:21

    • 7.

      Part 4B - 5 step practice to bring out your inner voice

      2:49

    • 8.

      Part 5 Differenc Between False Chord Screaming and Fry Screaming

      4:52

    • 9.

      Part 6 Practicing Mid False Scream With Ah ÁH Sounds

      3:29

    • 10.

      Part 7 Practicing Mid Low False Chords Screaming With OH UH, UH sounds

      2:38

    • 11.

      Part 8 The Russian bL Sound

      1:58

    • 12.

      Part 9 Practicing Mid High Screams With EH ÉH AND IH Sounds

      1:54

    • 13.

      Part 10 Why You Can't Scream

      3:48

    • 14.

      Part 11 Common mistakes people make when practicing

      1:51

    • 15.

      Part 12 How to reach lower sounds

      1:26

    • 16.

      Part 13 How to reach higher sounds

      1:00

    • 17.

      Part 14 How to do basic fry screams

      2:22

    • 18.

      Part 15 How to practice higher and lower fry screams

      2:09

    • 19.

      Part 16 Fry scream from head voice

      1:34

    • 20.

      Part 17 Fry Scream from ZA Sounds

      1:52

    • 21.

      Part 18 Different Throat Stances With Practices

      1:05

    • 22.

      Part 19 The Higher Throat Stance

      1:37

    • 23.

      Part 20 The Lower Throat Stance

      2:35

    • 24.

      Part 21 Rhythmical Practice and Screaming The ABCs

      2:04

    • 25.

      Part 22 Enunciation Practices

      2:50

    • 26.

      Part 23 Mimicing Different Extreme Vocalists

      1:41

    • 27.

      Part 24 Raspy Scream Singing Vocals

      2:09

    • 28.

      Part 25 Harsh Breath Hardcore Vocals

      1:04

    • 29.

      Part 26 Practice With Major Scale

      1:55

    • 30.

      Part 27 Easy Warm Up Practice

      3:50

    • 31.

      Part 28 How To Improve Stamina

      1:06

    • 32.

      Part 29 How To Elongate Screams

      1:23

    • 33.

      Part 30 Recording A Vocal Cover (Lamb Of God Walk With Me In Hell)

      2:18

    • 34.

      Part 31 Closing Words, Practice Patience

      2:34

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About This Class

In this class I'll teach you how to do different types of extreme vocals. This is a beginner tutorial class to do Extreme Vocals, Gowlings, Screamings, Distorted singing and Harsh Vocals. You'll learn how to use your voice to create different sounds for extreme metal and how not to hurt your voice while practicing.

You'll also learn how to use the right breathing technique for not just extreme vocals but for singing and doing vocals in general. 

There are not a lot of classes that go into extreme vocals, and this one is also focuses on how to learn and practice safely without destroying your voice. I'll teach you how to focus using the right breath technique and vocal techniques by going in-depth with a lot of the main extreme vocal techniques like False Chords Screaming and Growling, and Fry Screaming. By the end of this class, you'll be skillful enough to confidently sing in a metal band, or any band for that matter that uses extreme vocals, and you'll also be able to do your very first vocal cover video as well. I've been teaching online and in person as well for 2 years now and over that time I taught and still teach a lot of students. 

Anyone who is interested in singing in a metal or rock band should get my class. There is no prior knowledge of singing required to start this class, I'm going over everything from the very beginning of this science. 

You don't really need any equipment to start this class. All you need is yourself, your voice, your determination and your patience.

And always have fun!

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1. Introduction: Hello everyone. I'm Danielle. You want each? And welcome to my online extreme vocal cords. I am the vocalist and bass player for the Hungarian deaf core and metal core, but Nesta of plagues. I'm also the backing vocalists and the bass player for the Hungarian thrash metal band or Kayla, I was featured on several different projects as a vocalist and as a bass player. I'm a YouTuber and a YouTube, amongst other things, I also do vocal covers for different metal songs. But most importantly, I'm a teacher and I teach extreme vocals in-person and online. Two different students from different countries all over the world. This course covers three months of my extreme vocal lessons, which is certainly enough to get you to a level where you can confidently seeing in a band. Or you could do your own color as well. I'm going to cover everything from the basics of breath techniques to doing a basic Fourth courts dreaming, to doing a basic fry screaming. And we're going to cover different types of screenings as well. My goal with this is to get you to a level where you could do cover and maybe share it with me or with the rest of the world. You could also do this by watching the entire vocal cords and try to write out the different practices at the end of the vocal chords, I am going to talk about how you should practice each day, but you can also do this as many times as you want and just watch some of the parts and then come back to it and watch the other parts later. The important thing you should also remember, this is not like a basic singing course or like instrumental course. This is a very personalized vocal course, meaning that some of the techniques that I'm going to show early might not work as well for you as I'm going to show you later, but don't be discouraged. Some of the practices might work better for you and that's perfectly normal. That is because we all have different anatomy. 2. Part 1 How To Breathe Right: The most important part and science behind the extreme vocals is the breathing technique. I always say that 40 to 60% is the whole science and the 40% of it is the breathing technique. And this 40 per cent worse that you can only do it one way. Everyone can only do it one way. And that is by using the diaphragmatic muscles. And the rest of the 60% is how you do the different types of vocal techniques. But like I said before, that's a very personalized thing and that's not an exact science of it. So what I'm trying to get to is that if you get the breathing technique right, you already have an advantage of not making the mistakes you might make when you are learning the different types of vocal techniques. Like I said before, we are trying to use diaphragmatic muscles when we are reading. And we, and we are trying to seeing extreme locals. That is because our lungs are not able to do physical job or physical work. They can expand as much as you would think they can. Because if you are trying to take a breath in, your lungs are expanding so much that your ribs, ribs, and the lungs itself are going to push it and you cannot get too much breath into your body. But if you use it like if you are trying to breed downwards to your diaphragmatic muscles. There is much more space there because the organs are much more flexible and breadth can move, they're much more flexibly. People usually say like you have to read into your stomach. That is actually false. You are reading into your lungs of course, but you are reading in fewer downward parts of your lungs, which is behind your last ribs. And the lungs there can expand much more easily downwards behind your diaphragmatic muscles. Diaphragm muscles, you should imagine it's like boxing, belt. It's not just in France of your body, It's all around you. It can expand everywhere. And the other important thing that why we are learning to use the diaphragm muscles is because we can push out the air much more effectively and much more powerfully with the diaphragmatic muscles than we would normally push it out from our lungs. So there are a few practices you can already tried to do. One of them is a very easy practice. I always say this is the relaxed breathing practice. I usually imagine it is when you practice menu or standing or sitting. Try to imagine that you are trying to get really relaxed and you're dropping your shoulders. If you're sitting, you're putting it on knees and you are trying to breed in downwards without trying to move your muscles. You don't have to forcefully push down your shoulders. You just have to like relaxing in a way that's not even on your chest and non-union shoulder muscles would move upwards? That is like the basic reading technique. I know it sounds like it's very easy, but it can actually get difficult because you wouldn't think about how you are reading in your normal life. And the other practice that you could try to do is take a breath in. Do not worry about where you take the breath. This time. When you take a breath in trying to say the words, the sounds. And every time you say these sounds, your diaphragm, It's muscles should flex a little bit. I'm trying to like force on it and you can also try to force on it if you feel it. This practice is good to find where exactly your diaphragm muscles are and what are we going to improve on the next topic. 3. Part 2 The Most Important Breathing Technique: So now I'm going to show you the most important breathing technique that you can use. This is a breathing technique that's so important that normally this is the practice that I use as a warm up when my students come to my lessons. What you're going to need is a metronome. You can, if you don't have a metronome on your phone, that's okay. If you type in Google metronome, that is going to be a metronome that you can adjust. All you'll have to do is set the BPM to 60 BPM, which is basically saying that it counts the seconds for us. If you have a metronome like mine, you should try to set it to six by four beat. That is because we are going to use six bits to count our practice. At the first four bits, we are going to pick up that relaxed practice, that relaxed breathing practice I talked about on the fifth and the sixth bit, we are going to take a breath in. Like we would take a breath in through a straw. And it's going to come inside our body, through our upper part of our mouth and in the upper part of our tongue. Like a. That's important because you can more easily control the breath, how you, how it comes into your body. And we are trying to always breeding to the diaphragmatic muscles, like I mentioned before. And we are trying to not move our shoulder. And after that, you are the first beat or the seventh beef. You are going to push out the breath with an S sound like as long as you. But it should always be consistent if it sounds like at the end, like like that's not good because then it would be a screaming to sunlight. This is because we are using this technique, this power that we are pushing out to breath. Now we would push out a scream itself. And it's important to control the power of it all the time. And now I'm going to demonstrate you the practice, Something like that. You can find it as well. Of course, I always say that if you can get it up to 30 s and we will be able to get it up to 30 s. And you will be able to read this practice with less than three months if you practice this every day. That that is good for us. Because after that we can try to do the same practice which streams as well. But if it's less than that, I always say do not repeat yourself, do not trace with the time. Just be patient and practice this possibly every day and you will get there. If I'm warmed up effectively and, um, before a show even, I can do this for 1 min thirty-seconds. But that's definitely not an important result to reach thirty-seconds is more than enough. And even if at the beginning it's less than that, then don't worry about it. You will get there in time. After that. When you get there to the third second, you can try to do the same technique with her with a consistent scream. And then we will see how long you can screen. Basically, if you want to want to upgrade this practice, you can also do one where you only take a breath in the sixth beat. Something like that. I didn't count this time, but do not worry about that. If you practice this regularly as well, you will notice that the two results, the one where you do it to the fifth and sixth beat and the one that you do it, the 6-bit, will almost be at the same time. That's because your body is able to get enough oxygen into your body itself, regardless of how much time it has to do so. And that is good for us because if we are learning a song where you are screaming like a lot, you will notice and remember that you don't need a lot of time to get in the breadth to finish the line or fridge the first song or the chorus or whatever, the part of the song you are screaming at the moment. 4. Part 3A - Different Breath Tecniques For Different Situations: So now I'm going to show you different types of breathing techniques, which are good for different types of practices and situations. I already showed you the most important one, the fifth and sixth one. And the one where you only take a breath into the sixth one. Now you can also do one where you change the time to six by eight. And then that will give you a double time, which improves on the timing of your timing because you will notice that it's in this type of screaming. It is very important to be on time because screaming is half melodic, rhythmic instruments, so to speak. So you do one value where it's six by eight and something like that. The important thing to remember about that, that you should focus on being on time. You should be consistent in your screen. But it doesn't have to be at the same strength as with the other practices where you would really with one strength and you breathe out with the same strength like do not pose, just breathe out as well as you can. Here. You can also breathing like with less force than you would normally breathing like, I do not need you to be long-winded or to have like a powerful out-breath. I just want you to be consistent with your breath all the time. So the next one is at the same time, like six by four on 60 BPM. All of these are in 60 BPM by the way. So we never change that. This one. We are only taking a breath into the sixth one, and we are only taking a breath out on the first one for several rounds. And usually when I'm with the students, I'm mentioning to him or her to now read on every one of those beats. If you're practicing this alone, you should do it like you are doing four rounds of just breathing out once. And after that, you should breathe out on every beat. I'm going to show you to first just only breathing out for once and waiting and then again. After that on every beat. Important not to stop at the six bit, like and so on. This helps you improve on your diaphragmatic muscles itself. It strengthens your muscles. Sometimes, which reflects I try to breathe in through my nose with when I do in this practice. Try to like if you notice that if we let your body is trying to get him breath through your nose than just stopped practice at that because you probably don't have enough breath left and do it again. The next one is a lung capacity extension practice. There are two of these basically where you don't do this with screams. One is really easy. I call this square practice, which actually, no, I call this like box practice, but that actually doesn't make sense because it's more like a square. This time you are doing it for a four-by-four bit. At first four bits you are relaxing. The next four wreath, you are taking a breath in. The next four beats you are keeping the breath in and relaxing. The next four days you are pushing it out. And then the next four beats again, you are keeping it relaxed and keeping it in. And then you are breathing in for the next four bit and you are going square bar square. I guess. The idea is that it should be same strength around the same strength of how you breathe in and how you breathe out. But you should try to find a balance of how many breaths you live in your lung. Because the idea is when you are taking another breath in, it kind of feels like you are strengthening your diaphragm mic muscles and you are trying to expand on your muscles and on your lungs. And that's how you should feel it. I'm going to show you just one round of this. Okay. I did several here because my my lungs I think has expanded so much from these practices that I had to do like a lot, but you'll probably be going to feel something at the first two rounds. It's like you are trying to take more breath in, but it's getting harder to doing it consistently and that is good. You should still try to do it, but of course, be careful you don't actually have to fixate during it. 5. Part 3B - Different Breath Tecniques For Different Situations: So the next one is a similar lung capacity expansion breakfast. The idea here is that there are no breaks and all you are doing for beads of breath intake and six breadth of breath out big and so on. This is much more like without breaks then you can just keep on doing that and like before it, your lungs like, be careful to always be on time. That's what I'm trying to show you here. The next one is something similar. It's a 4 s breath intake. 7 s of brace, 7 s of break, and then 8 s of breath out. I want to go into one of these is the important part here is the 7 s you do between the breath intake and the breadth outtake. That is because you are trying to get The keeping your breath and trying to get that relaxed position up that I was talking about at the first breath technique practice. And I'm going to show you exactly why. The reason I'm showing you this, because after this, we are going to do the same technique with greens, but you don't have to actually do it for seconds at first because you might actually sound at first more like breathy and all the breath is leaving your body immediately. But this practice is really good to elongate those screams. I'm only going to show you on this, but like I said, you don't have to do like and so on. You should try to focus on grabbing at the end, not like I did here, but you don't have to do it for 8 s. You can do it for warlike at first, but try to be consistent with your scream and try to grab the end of that screen to not sound like this time we are not doing that. Yours might sound like a lot breathy, like we're going to talk about that on the next topic. Why is that? 6. Part 4A - 5 step practice to bring out your inner voice: I'm going to show you the basic practice to get your inner voice out, your inner screaming and growling voice out. This practice is using five steps to create a basic stream out of a site a is going to turn into or even like her. I'm going to show you that how through five different steps. This is the easiest of all. But you should still practice this slowly and it doesn't work for you at the beginning, don't be discouraged. This is a really good practice. You can always come back to it every time you want. But basically, this is how I do a normal force for streaming. We are talking about foursquare screaming now. So the first step is doing a side, remembering that when you go home and you have a toddler and **** into the middle of the apartment, and you are frustrated about that. And nobody walked the dog. So the dog **** next to the toddlers sheets and others to **** in the middle of your apartment and you have to clean that up and you get home from work and you're like frustrated side. And what you're hearing here now is basically my force courts, but I'm not bringing any voice into it. You might not be able to do the side this way right now. That's perfectly normal. That is because you haven't practiced enough yet, but do not worry about it. Just try to do a normal side at first, like try to be really frustrated about it. The second part is it's trying to take a longer side out, like or like get this down its first. Several times even. You can do it like if you want to practice only this because this is basically the foundation of it. The third step is giving your chest voice into it. Your chest voice is the worst that you are speaking with? My chest voice is this voice that sound and your chest voice is the voice that you are speaking with. So we are going to mix this, the sound with the, It's going to sound something like you can hear some recipe distortion into it. That's kind of like a little scream. Basically. The reason why we are doing this from a psi is because when you are signing, you are basically, are talking quietly like this. Basically screaming really quietly. In this technique, you are basically using your false cords the same way, but like only just blocked much softer way or a much less powerful way. 7. Part 4B - 5 step practice to bring out your inner voice: So like I said, the first step is putting your chest voice into the d psi and it's going to sound like something like this. And the fourth step is doing an 0 vowel sound. That is because are basically doing an oh, wow, your mouth. That is because many people actually fails here at first because when you are putting in the mouth into it, some people just forget all about that they learned so far. And that is basically just to make this practice much more difficult to control everything you do like. So it's going to sound like an ow, sound like basically something easy like this. And a fifth practice is putting the diaphragmatic muscles into how you do it is like you imagine that somebody wants to come up to and punch you in the stomach? Likely really hard. Basically just flexing your diaphragms and put that muscle into it and then do the side with no sound. But so far we did. Which voice like that is basically like a normal force for streaming I would do. Yours might not sound the first time like this. It might, it might be much more breathy like or something like that. That is because you do not put your diaphragmatic muscles into it yet or it's not yet improved enough. So just keep on practicing this, like I said before, practice this and the breathing techniques because all of these are really good to come back to it anytime of your practice. Because this practice is going to keep on improving. As you improve your voice itself, there is a chance that this might not be so comfortable for your voice or your throat. That is because you are not really a force courts creamer. You are more like a fry streamer. We are going to get into it later on. Why is that? But you definitely have to improve on your false cords either way. So there is a chance that this might not work as well for you or this isn't so comfortable for you, but then try to practice it like really slowly. All of these still practice it, but really slowly. And if it feels like your throat is soaring, then stop for a bit and come back to this practice later. Even if it's just for like 5 min at the beginning, you're going to improve trust me, on that. 8. Part 5 Differenc Between False Chord Screaming and Fry Screaming: When we are talking about screaming, generally we are talking about two main techniques. This is the fourth-quarter screaming and the fries screaming. There are many other techniques which are like the combination of the two or like outside of these two or like, it's like coming from one of those into a different sound. But mainly at the beginner part, we are only going to focus on the fourth-quarter screaming and the fry screaming. And I'm going to tell you the difference about them. So on the fourth floor screaming, like we mentioned before, you are using your four scores. These four scores are basically a evolutionary vocal cords. A lot of animals can only communicate with it. These four scores, if Popper wants to make a baby deer with mama deer, he saying like that is basically how they communicate. They are also using their false courts. And we also have this because babies, when they are really small, they didn't have their, their true vocal cords developed yet. They are very small and they are very weak. So they are using their false basically they are using their false vocal folds to make a crying sounded screaming sound. I don't know if you ever wonder like you are on the bus and one of the babies like crying really loudly, really high and you are thinking, My God, that's an awesome black metal voice. That is because of that, because evolutionary, we can all use that false vocal cords. And we are extreme vocalist do the same thing, but we are expanding on the technique itself. So the false cords streaming, obviously by the name uses the force courts mainly, but it also has the, your true vocal voice into it. It's false when they are saying that you do not use your true voice in your screenings, you do have your true voice into it. But what you need to remember is that your true voice is somewhere like here in your voice box. And the vocal folds are somewhere around here. And they are like two muscles that push the breath together or the yeah, the breath together when you push it out and when you push the sound out, It's going to make that resonating distortion sound. So you are not making the distortion itself with your walk through vocal vocal folds and reach your true vocal cords. You are making it with your false vocal cords. But the intonation, your voice, your chest voice is already into it. So basically, if you would normally do a distortion down in your true vocal folds it to sound like a Mongolian. Mongolian singing like this is how you distort the worst downwards, true vocal cords. But if you are doing a Foursquare swimming, you are like, hey, you should feel the distortion somewhere around here at the upper part of your throat. Not just like a small screen. This is really loud and resonance the entire room. And yeah, like I said, it also uses your true voice itself. On the other hand, fry screaming is made out of the fry vocal sound that singers all around the world already used. Using it when they want to seem like really deep voices and want to like start there singing from a deep voice like or something like this. That sound, that is the fry vocal. When your true vocal cords are pushed together, they are making the third crackling voice. The difference in this, that this doesn't have your true voice in it. It can be interrelated and uses your true vocal cords, but it doesn't really use chest voice the same way as it was used as a force cord. Screaming would use generally how it sounds like, yeah. This is all kind of different for ice creams. These are already concentrated sounds compressed into it, into one. It sounds like in your face, it only sounds like here. And if you notice it's not even louder than my talking voice. Like apart from you, like a Foursquare screaming, you're false cords are giving support to your vocal cords. So you do use your false cords here, but the distortion and the sound is not coming through there. Both of these techniques required to master your false course technique as well. 9. Part 6 Practicing Mid False Scream With Ah ÁH Sounds: From now on, we are going to try to learn different types of Foursquare screenings. But we are mainly going only going to start with to meet screams. The reason is that when generally people scream like you would hear normally like like anyone who just tries to sing like worse or something, they normally only seeing in their mid scream. And that is because they are not using different throat stances. I'm going to talk about it later. The important part is that for now we're only going to focus on the mid screams and on that the mid-40s Prim's itself. So the basic false cords that you can use with the meat scream is that we are going to learn different vowels and we are going to distort them. First just slowly, and then we're going to build up on that. The first wobbles that you can start learning the sound and the sound. Basically, these are actually wobbles in Hungarian, so yours might, in English, it might sound different or you're in your language. So think about them more like a sounds, like an app and an r sound. And even that, it's not really an 0 and an art, it's more like and are like an edge is added before that. But the age is giving the momentum of it's like the bush with it. So it's not actually sounding or it's not actually distorted is just going to give you a push. So what you are doing is you are going to use your chest voice in your basics speaking voice or your basic speaking or screaming voice like, ah, first we are only going to do one and just slowly build up on it. If you can. Try to build more distortion into it, like tried to do two times back and forth and go back to your original voice at the end if you can. It's not that easy as it looks, we believe me, but with patients you can get this right Once they need to remember is that in order to use less breadth, less and less breaths, you are imagining. You are imagining that you are singing in front of a pen or pencil. And you are trying to get the voice upwards to the parent cell and not downwards. Because if you go downwards it will be like more breathy and upwards. You are focusing your four scores. Boost together much more. And it's going to give you a much, much more distorted sound in a way that it uses less breaths. Like apart from this is not bad. This sounds sake. It's okay, but it's hard to do an entire show we did or even an entire recording we did. Though there are some examples like Kubla account or something like many hardcore vocalists used that sounds so, yeah, try to push it upwards and ah, ah, so far, practice only these two. 10. Part 7 Practicing Mid Low False Chords Screaming With OH UH, UH sounds: So now we're going to check out lower sounds. Like I said before, all of these are still meet screams. They are going to be like mid low and mid high ice-creams first with tomatoes. So the low sounds or wireless, but I would much prefer to say sounds because vowels is different in different languages. So these sounds are 0, u, and there will be another one on the next topic. But the 0 sound is basically like the highest. The UX sounds, something in the middle of the low sounds and sounds is like a toilet sound. It's really good. The 0 is like the same way you are. Practice the mid screams before like or tried to do like either like the same amount of breath and forced into it. When I say force, I'm going to say like momentum and energy into it, not like power or strength. Because if that happens, that creates turmoil in your body and you might learn the whole technique wrong. So just be patient with it like so just be patient with it. The next one is the u sound. And the ear sound is like, if you make these three sounds altogether, like in front of each other, like, oh, all of these after each other. All of these sound differently, like they should sound like different characters. These are, like I said, all mid low. It's important to remember. But what we are doing is we are creating wider space between the upper part of your mouth and the upper part of your song, especially at the zoo, the new sounds, those are pretty different in a way that you bring your tongue back at the 00 sound. When you put your tongue behind your teeth, you are putting it there whilst creating a bowl which your tongue. And when you push the breadth and the, the worst through it, it creates like a toilet flush. Sound like I love it. It's one of my favorite songs. 11. Part 8 The Russian bL Sound: Now I'm going to show you the deepest sound. This is actually a letter from the Russian language. It sounds like you are pushing a wardrobe out the window in the street or something like that. So my Russian teacher mentioned, mentioned it actually, but high would imagine is like you're saying, a sound between a and an E, but deeper. And you are actually trying to create that sound at the back of your mouth, more like at the upper part of your throat. It's like, it's like it's like really the deeper than the EU. In the ear, the tongue is like downwards at, it's more like backwards and like holding back all the sounds to the upper part of your throat. It might not be easy to get a handle on how to say it, but here's an example for it. And you do the same thing as with the rest. You practice it the same way. Just push little by little. And then like more like. So the idea with this is it's much, it's a bit difficult, but it's still a middle low scream because it doesn't change. It's the throat stance. But you are only changing the stands between me in your mouth. But it's like at the upper part of your throat, the wideness of your whole mouth. So it's somewhere around the border of changing your throat stands. So it's a really good practice and it can be pretty difficult. So just keep on practicing it and be patient with it. 12. Part 9 Practicing Mid High Screams With EH ÉH AND IH Sounds: Now we're on to the mid high ice-creams. We're doing characters that are creating a tighter and tighter space in your mouth, between the upper part of your mouth and the upper part of your tongue. These sounds are the a, e sounds as maybe you can even see it as I'm saying this out, It's like creating a tighter and tighter space between the upper part of my mouth and the upper part of my tongue. And it's, I'm creating like a small smile, like all the way. Like I'm creating a bigger and bigger smile. And yeah, so basically this is how you make a higher character. It's still not essentially a higher scream. It's a high with a higher scream, higher screaming character actually. So the first one is like practicing in the same way as the other different sounds. The next one is the third one is E. It's still like you hear it. It's the same sound, less like it's on the same note as before. Like we're not changing notes right now and we are not changing throw senses. We are only doing meet screens with different characters. The, I showed you this the second time because many people first get down the deeper sounds because they usually think about growling when they are thinking about extreme vocals. And usually the higher notes are a bit more difficult, but that is totally up to your anatomy. So just keep on watching on that and keep on practicing slowly as you can be patient. 13. Part 10 Why You Can't Scream: So far we only practice Foursquare screaming and Foursquare vocals. Like I said before, if these practices didn't work for you, don't be discouraged. There is a chance you are more likely for ice cream or you use for ice-creams more generally. However, you should still practice these. Like I said before, these are evolutionary in our bodies, these false cords, so we can use them. You can learn to use them. But like I said, all of us have different bodies and different throat. So it might be working differently for you, but be patient with it and keep on practicing. If it hurts you immediately, like one of the higher practices, then you should stop that, come back to it later. If you are like coughing and it's like really source or something. But if you just I don't know if you've been practicing for five, 10 min and your throat starts to each or sore. That's perfectly fine. These are muscles and it's like you are doing exercise with them and they are getting tired. You stop. Later on, you can come back to it and later on you can practice for hours even at the beginning it, these are going to get tired pretty easily. And the a, so if you are for ice cream or keep watching this course because we are going to get into the different types of fries creams as well. The other part is more like a mental state. I think 99% of people are able to learn all kinds of streams if they want to. But even the 1% can. But usually they have a mental state that makes them discouraged about them. If that happens to you, that is perfectly common. I know someone, she is a really good singer. She can even scream, but only if she drinks a little bit and if we are drinking together a little bit, if she's sober, she just simply doesn't want to like like scream or seeing, even though she has a great voice and grades, fourth chord screams. So it's more like a mental states and discouragement that you have to get through. But it will happen. Just keep on practicing and remember that the more you practice, the better it will sound. If, even if you think like the beginning, like this isn't really the sound you want, you are going to get there, so don't be discouraged. Be patient. You have to have to practice vocal discipline. The vocal discipline in this is that we are trying to create the best sound with the little, little effort as possibly we can. So best sound with little effort, meaning that we are using less and less power and more control into it. That's the other part that I'm always saying. Control, control, control, control, control. And yes, this is important. That's why I'm repeating it, because we are controlling everything in our body, how these muscles make different sounds. Many people also think about the end results when they are practicing. So they are like, I want to scream like Alex terrible like or something. But you might not be able even I can get that deep voice down, but you might not be able to get that down ever or just simply at the beginning. So don't be discouraged about that. You can still have a pretty powerful deep voice. You have to not think about the end results. You have to think about the practice itself. First, you only are trying to make like a little distortion like and then keep on adding to it like I mentioned before. And the most important is the patient. 14. Part 11 Common mistakes people make when practicing: The first one is not forming up. So far in our practice, the warming up consists of the fifth and six metronome breeding technique or other breeding technique we wish to do. And the five-step vocal technique when you are creating a stream out of a side. The other one is that people, again, forgetting the golden rule is that you always have to do the best sounds with as little effort as you possibly can. Again, you always have to do the best sound with as little effort as possibly you can. You always have to be relaxed when you are practicing. When you are screaming in general, I mean screaming in a musical sense. And, and doing the, you have to remember that doing the practices forcefully or powerfully will create terminal in your body. And your body will remember the practice in our own way. And that's just makes mistakes that it is very hard to re-calibrate. Remember to always try to practice vocal discipline. You most probably will always have to hydrate and that is a good thing. Actually. You do have to hydrate. Water works perfectly. I guess you could try D, unlike some people say alcohol and whiskey doesn't help. I tried it. And Coca-Cola, sometimes these sugar type soda and zero in the soda. My I don't know, feel those vocal cords better or bar, it might not actually work better for everyone. So just stick to water that is for sure it will work. Again, most important is to practice vocal discipline and patients all the time. 15. Part 12 How to reach lower sounds: You are reaching lower sounds without changing the throw stances so far is by practicing the different types of sounds with different characteristics that I mentioned. And also we are talking about false cords screenings so far. So again, these are all using your chest voice and your chest voice can internet different sounds. So if you would do an 0 sound like from a node like Oh, try to do it like lower, like Oh. And there is a good note banding technique that I like to use with students. The idea is that you are singing. It doesn't really matter which kind of interval you are singing. It only matters that you are seeing like going back to the same node and like doing it at the same time, like these types of different node banded practices can help you. And yes, these are false core techniques. So you can use any kind of notes too distorted and try to reach lower sounds. 16. Part 13 How to reach higher sounds: You reach higher sounds, the same way you are reaching lower sounds, practicing different nodes, just higher notes with your chest voice. And adding distortion to your chest voice. Like if you would normally think like an, a sound like try something like as far as VDI would, something like this. So just be consistent with it. Like be consistent with it and return to the same voice, the same note as you did before. And also there is a note bending practice here as well, like same way with lower sounds. Basically, keep practicing vocal discipline and vocal patients and you will get there with the higher sounds as well. 17. Part 14 How to do basic fry screams: Fries creams are made out of the fry vocal singing technique, like I mentioned before, that singers use all around the world basically. So first you need to get down that, that, that fry vocal technique down how you do it is like try to sing a note like and try to get down as low as possibly you can. Bring out all the pitch from it. And when you reach the lowest sound, it should start to sound like you bring out all the page behind it and it will sound like the crackling voice. And after you got that, you should use your diaphragmatic muscle has doubled as you use it for the fourth quarter techniques. Fries trimmings usually require double as much control and diaphragmatic muscles and tried to do minimal breath. Like the breadth should be much less when you use Foursquare screaming, it should sound like this is the amount of breadth you you do it at all. And when you get that crackling voice down, bringing the little, little breadth and the D punch in the stomach. Diaphragmatic muscle we doubled force basically like I this is like a basic fries screaming. It doesn't sound too much yet. All of these sound very differently than you would use it in a song, of course, but we are breaking the practice down into their very basic practices itself. So yeah, keep practicing and the patient, these are interpretable so you can make it sound like different nodes like your higher or lower. But, but yeah, The own voice, the chest voice, and your true voice should be almost none of it. In the free ice cream itself. It's all about that crackling fry vocal technique that I'm I'm mentioning to you. So yeah, keep remembering that strengthening practice. 18. Part 15 How to practice higher and lower fry screams: When you get it correctly, most don't use the correct language. Then without pushing the support intuit, your diaphragm supports bring the nodes into a higher place. Like you would open a door or something. Like I like you are doing a big smile and you are opening a door and the door is crackling and the sound of it gets higher, then push the support into it like this time I went back to meet for ice-cream. Important thing to remember is that that highest screams, especially high for ice-creams can easily irritate your throat. So it might be really weird at first and it might hurt at first, but try to do it really slowly. You definitely can and be patient about it as always. So if you want to practice lower sounds with fries creams, all you have to do is do the same technique. Just push it down like you like you would step on something and it's trying to push the boys down. It's much more, it's much more like a visualization than an actual sound. But what I'm getting to is like do the crackling voice, her, then go down like support, something like that. But yeah, it's really hard to be consistent with the fries. Keep on practicing because these require double the control actually. So yeah, local discipline always remembered it. 19. Part 16 Fry scream from head voice: Your head voice is a higher note that it's sounding like it has much more breath into it and it's much more thinner. The good way to try to reach it is to try to sing like higher and higher notes, like something like that. And when you reach a node where you can't reach it with your normal chest, worse, you're going to change, change to head voice or something like that. Sun, exactly the same note. But the point I'm getting to is if you don't know how to reach your head voice, then just try to sing higher and higher notes. And if you got that breathy, thinner voice down, then you can put it back to low, lower or Meat, Meat, Meat voice leg. And when you got that are much more like more like this. If you've got that, add the crackling voice into it that you do with the vocal fry like false cord, screams are made out of the chest voice, your own voice, almost in a sense of your own speaking and singing voice. And the fries screaming is made out of the head voice because it's much more of a thinner sound is satisfied. Fry screaming. It's so you've got that. Yeah. You can try to go up and down the same way you did with the fry vocal technique itself. 20. Part 17 Fry Scream from ZA Sounds: If the techniques before then help you to create your fries screen, this one should, this one is called creating one out of a sound. Sound because you should do a fry vocal as before. But you are going to make a z sound after the crackling vocal sound. It's going to be a little weird or a little difficult. It's going to be a little difficult. But how you should imagine is like doing the crackling voice and then adding the z sound. And after that, you should go up or down. Opening your mouth and then go up or down. And why you do that? You should put in your support as well. Like all the way through like Oh, yeah, put the pressure and support in after you got the sound down. Don't be discouraged if for ice cream, it doesn't happen to you yet. It's a bit difficult, in my opinion, it's much more, much more like a modern screaming technique. It's very popular now in the death called genre like with Lauren ashore, Foursquare screaming is much more popular and it was popular even back then with the older stuff like that, slip dots or all these bigger bands and do not be discouraged if it doesn't happen to you yet. Be patient with it. Like I said, it's much more difficult. So if it doesn't happen to you yet, keep on practicing and be patient with it and it will happen to you. The fries screaming as well. 21. Part 18 Different Throat Stances With Practices: Now we are going to learn how to change the throat stances. Before we used to change the mouth stances with different powers and B, two different sounds, like the higher and lower in the mid, mid sounds. Now we're going to learn how to change the stances in the throat and how to change the standards at the larynx. All of these practices should be handled very carefully because it can be and can feel like a bit difficult at the beginning. But I think in my opinion, it's pretty fun and you will get to learn how to do the lower stances and the higher stances as well. All of these techniques also sound very differently here than it would sound like when you are hearing and it moves menu or hearing it in music. So remember that this is just practice. We are breaking down the practice into its basics and its basic steps. And we are going to practice it that way. 22. Part 19 The Higher Throat Stance: The higher throat stance, I think in my opinion, is easier to reach because you are changing the stands at the upper parts of your throat. You are basically pushing your tongue into the back of your throat. It's tried to imagine it like you would try to cough up slide or something like you would when you are sick or somebody annular, you're actually trying to Buick and it doesn't come out easily. The hires ROW stands, in my opinion, it's easier to reach than the lower throat stance. Basically, you are pushing the back of your tongue to the upper part of your throat. And you are creating this very tight space. It's almost like close entirely. And you are trying to cough the slime through that. Like it sounds ridiculous right now. I know. But if you add in the different higher characters, like the different higher sounds like e, let's say that's the highest than you do like a or with force code, it would sound like they tried to practice it slowly. Like you would do a just 11 out coughing and if you get that down, then tried to along that little screams. Yeah. This basically how the high throw stance looks. 23. Part 20 The Lower Throat Stance: The lower throat stances are easy to reach by two different practices. The first one is, if you imagine that like you would try to yawn, you are actually doing a deeper throat stance like air is coming out of your mouth like all through your throat. I would imagine that that she would try to do hybrid, tried to redo that, re-imagined, that yawning is that you try to push your tongue all the way to the back, like pyran pulling up back. This is going to sound ridiculous, I know, but trust me on this bush, or rather pull your tongue all the way back. We've talked like this. You would try to do different, deeper characters. Like it sounds different if you would do like if you imagine, if you are trying to create sound at the back of your throat, it, there's a much wider space there. There's a much wider space. And it's easier to create a deeper sound like it can be really uncomfortable at first, so be careful with it. But yeah, basically, it's, it's, one of those techniques is like the yarn technique or how I call it. The other one is when you are trying to drink down everyone to the table and you are drinking the beer with one sip and you are opening your throat in a way that it can flow through you. I, I don't know if you imagine, you can imagine that you have you have ever done that. But basically when you are pushing your tongue all the way to down at the back of your throat. Go create the tunnel. And that is actually called tunnels rolling. And that is one way to make that ridiculous sound. And then pushing the, pushing the different sounds out like same way, like with the one with the yawning. But this one can be pretty difficult to get a hang of it. But yeah, slow and patients all the time and you will get down these two. 24. Part 21 Rhythmical Practice and Screaming The ABCs: From now on all the practices that we are going to learn is to help you learn basically a song or high will learn lyrics itself. So one of the key things to remember that I already mentioned before is that this is a very rhythmical science, are very rhythmical technique, the whole screaming, It's house melodic, but have written it as well, or sometimes a lot more rhythmic. So you always have to be on time. So it's really good to practice different types of rhythmic and even practiced Linux itself to a metronome or something if you're into that. But the very easy way to practice rhythmic, in my opinion, is to do short screams and short breath out, either to a metronome or just like do like like you would first with just the breadth, with firstly just the air. Like I would push it out like one-by-one to a metronome or just by itself in the same bit. And after that, tried to do it with screams. Like after that, you can try a fun exercise when you try to sing the whole ABC or rather screamed the whole ABC. I'm not going to show you this entirely right now, but imagine that lives like a metronome. And you go through all the way. This is important because you are actually learning how to produce the sounds to a bead and how to produce the sounds to a different rhythm than you would normally do. Or first, just like simple beats and then like do it on like eight nodes like hey Barry, J, J or something like this. And the rest of the alphabet is that I don't know. So that is a good practice to start with as a beginner. 25. Part 22 Enunciation Practices: One of the things that can help you to learn a song or a lyric is that, or the lyrics of it is that try to get down how the singer itself, I'd say it's the words and the letters itself. This is important because you can try to do like, try to be melodic with the enunciation and the pronunciation itself. Remember random life, or do you know random life from love of God? He seems perfectly and very rare and screams perfectly with this melodic enunciation. And I think he's a very good example of that. What you could try to do is try to do different types of short words and word beginnings to scream out. One of my favorites to do is the sound Yao, which consist, that's a word beginning That's basically consists of the ya is a sound that gives you the momentum. It's, it's consistent on are or who you are basically are articulating all throughout your richer mouth like Yeah. And I think that is a good practice that you could try to do to start, beginning to end. I think that is a good practice to start practicing the Annunciation itself. And after that, you could try to do a practice I like to call the monkey noises, is basically sounds like whoo. Oh. First you should try to do like boo, push the air out. Then try to talk through like you would talk through it like, Oh, try to reach it like Oh, wow. If you do it like one at a time, it's like it's something that also can help you with enunciation itself and just singing different types of words, like words like one of the, one of these, like when I like to do is like Eleanor. Eleanor is like a free syllable word that's consistent with a very deep sound at the end like or, or something like that. When I'd also like to do is Mandarin, which is similar but with a high notes at the lake. And are, there is also a form on which is more like rhythmic, like potato salad. I know these are ridiculous words, but it's awesome. But JI JO saw large, something like you would scream to the crowd if you're like on a hardcore dining shoreline. Joe, so large. And yeah, all of these are to help your enunciation and pronounciation and how to learn the lyrics of a song. 26. Part 23 Mimicing Different Extreme Vocalists: When we learn a song with my students on my lessons, I first, I tell them to whisper through the lyrics quietly, like CAF. So it's just because this will help the students and it will help you to learn how the singer pronounce its, learn the excellent, the articulation and the rhythm and lyrics itself. And when you get down that, when you have that, you can try to mimic the singer in a way that is not a bad way. Like make, almost making a parody of it, of how he seems like, where does he go up? How do the different types of emotions and infections that he does throughout the song, you have to get that anger out and you have to like learn how these extreme vocalist singing with that pure energy and with the pure angers many times and try to mimic that and see where does the singer go up with their workers? Where does he go down? Or where does he or she grew up and when he or she goes down and yeah. And after you got that down with just a whisper, try to put more energy into it like I did my dad. And I want just to cause, let's start. So vibe rods and so on, and learn the entire song this way, slowly. 27. Part 24 Raspy Scream Singing Vocals: This is my favorite type of screaming, and this is my favorite type of extreme vocals. I like to call this drive screaming or rather a recipe singing. One of my biggest inspiration in the hall, singing science or the whole extreme vocals was really freeing for machine head. And he does a lot of like this. The trick is to, you tried to seeing different nodes with disk drive voice. That's like like, like same resignation and same distortion, like you would do a fourth chord screaming. But you are trying to put less and less drive into it and more your own voice into it. So it's something like if you would sing melodically but still has that powerful recipe, distortion. And another great example would be holy sites from Rumi, the horizon like Kenya. Or he does this even with much less Dr than me or yeah. Can you tell from the look in your rise? And the trick is to practice with basically like how you would practice singing. Tried to, I like to do on my lessons is get down different, write down different singing parts, even from popular songs like Red Hot Chili Peppers or something and try to scream it out. We denote there. There's a good example. It's good. Extra metal like bleed from Gilead, like dragging us. And of course machine had like down there calm the storm of low cost. If you could hear it as like a little bit of a melody into it. And the trick is, like I said before, is to put less and less distortion into, and I think it sounds great in enlivened in studio as well. 28. Part 25 Harsh Breath Hardcore Vocals: There are two main types of genre that uses this type of vocals. The one is like a really, really powerful hardcore metal sound like Kubla Khan. That, that is one I really like. And the other is brutal death mask, of course, like cannibal course. So there are two types of genres that uses this kind of vocals, these two and easiest to practice this is with defies the practice that we did at the beginning. The one where you are making a scream out of a sigh. But, but try to not push the air and the scream out of that imagined pencil in its upper parts tried to do it like downwards and with more breadth. So don't judge. It sounds much more scary and sometimes much more angrier. But it can it requires extreme stemming and extreme control of your voice and breath. 29. Part 26 Practice With Major Scale: This is a simple practice that I like to do with every type of screaming, but the easiest to do with this dry screaming. I mentioned earlier these recipes singing, How do it is? Basically just have a piano ready or like We're show piano on your mobile and we are only going to do one major scale, the C major scale, if you don't know by any chance how to play the piano, is that you before the two black piano keys. The first one is the C. And if you are pressing all the white keys, that's a C major. Basically, what we are doing is we are going to first sing out the, the notes itself and add distortion into it like just really slowly and then build up to it like this. This one is actually sounding like I'm, I'm adding an octave to it. That is because because when you scream like this false cord screaming, it actually adds more frequency into it. But the important part is to just skip on the different nodes with different types of screens like and so on. You don't even have to do the whole scale. On my lessons, we are doing like one or four nodes at the beginning and then we are, we are doing even more slowly, the distortion and the drive into it. And when you feel comfortable with it, add more to it. 30. Part 27 Easy Warm Up Practice: Each day when you are sitting down and trying to do a longer practice, start with a warm-up, or this warm up is good for even if you are singing on a reverser or streaming on a rehearsal or practicing at home, practicing on lessons are practicing in the studio or trying to record something in the studio or screams something up. This is a basic warmup that I like to do. There are two types of hormones that I like to do. The one, this is important because it will help you get the sound down easy. And it, first of all, the most important part is that it won't hurt your throat. It would be much less likely to hurt your throat if you are practicing new stuff. The other one is that it warms up your breath and even warms up the intonation a little bit and the scream and the vocal cords itself. There are two types of warm there are two types of warranties by like to do. One of them is more like a breath technique, focus one and the other one is Indonesian focused one on this vocal chords. I'm only going to focus on the breath technique one, because I think on this work of course is a big winner that is much more useful for you. So it's an easy breath, warm up. Basically, it consists of four different breath technique. One is the fifth and fifth and sixth one that I usually start my lessons with. The, if you don't know these, then go back to your previous part where I mentioned all of these different breath techniques. The second one is when you are doing a breath intake and breath outtake. You're doing a breath intake on the sixth one and doing a breadth outtake on the first one, and doing it as long as you can on the 60 BPM. And the third one is like when you do it on double time, the six by eight bits. And 41 is when you are doing the one on the 60 BPM and you are taking a breath on the sixth one and breeding only on the first one out, and then breathing on every beat. That's four of the breadth techniques that should be on your warm-up. And I think that's more than enough. If you do all of these, it should take around five to 10 min. After that, what I usually like to do is to try to sing without any music. Try to scream. One of my songs, one of the nest of plague songs, or, or just any type of songs but might as well be one of your own Zan Yeah. If I do my own, it would sound like I paid up pitcher or to sell leg. As I say, for beggar, they told me I'd die. Shows this side. We'd every block arrive at the satisfied that this euphoria should address the I won't give out my anger. Reason I'm showing you all of these parts is because it consists a lot of different types of screaming, a lot of different types of characteristics. But I'm not doing it with full power of four control. I'm just like standing and screaming it through because that's how I usually warm up. So you might as well find some kind of song. You yourself, if you don't know. If you don't have any of your own songs yet, then just find something, one of the sleepless songs or any kind of songs that's easy to scream through at the beginning. Or if you don't, if you can scream. Yet enough dangerous whispers with quietly like I mentioned before. 31. Part 28 How To Improve Stamina: I like to improve seminar, especially if I'm doing a show next or the next day or even, even just before I show. What I usually do is like two types of different things that I like to do. One is pretty funny, is like I like to go on, on a jog or start running. And why Iran? I like to sing the same way one of our songs. And trust me, nobody notices. And if you do that, you feel that it's actually extremely tiring. And it's it's you're trying to run out of breath all the time. And you are helping your body to improve on that, how to regain that breadth and that oxygen. Right before the show, what I like to do is do a plank and starts screaming one of our songs at the same way I showed you before. Both of these are actually very tiring. So if you yourself want to try these out, watch out because it is actually extremely tiring it the first time, but it can help you a lot with your stamina. 32. Part 29 How To Elongate Screams: The breadth techniques are the main practices for you to make a longer scream. I already mentioned several days before. The first, you should try to do breadth techniques that help you improve on your capacity. The one with the four by 44444 breath technique, the square on the one where you take a breath in for 4 s and breathe out for 6 s. But the important part is to do all of these with screens, especially. So I showed you this before, but this is a recap for you to know that if you are trying to alone, you're screams. First To do the one where you are taking four breaths in and then doing 7 s of break. And then try to scream out for just 4 s at first. And gradually improve on that like 5 s like her. And so on like 6 s, 7 s, 8 s. If you get to 8 s, you should try to, from, from that on, you should try to practice long screams with T. With the most important breast practice, the 5.8 metronome beat breast practice, which screams. 33. Part 30 Recording A Vocal Cover (Lamb Of God Walk With Me In Hell) : Now I'm going to show you how I record a vocal cover using the techniques I taught you today. Now I'm going to do a cover from labs got Walk with me in how I like to give this to my students as a homework. Because it has a lot of those techniques that I talked to you about in this work, of course. First I'm going to sing this in Fry screaming technique. Now I'm going to demonstrate the same part you with false cord Walker streaming technique. Let's go. Let's lie no law at all. Why? 34. Part 31 Closing Words, Practice Patience: In this chapter first, I'm going to tell you the golden rules that you should remember that you have learned all throughout this vocal cords. And after that, I am going to tell you how you should practice your extreme vocals every day and how to improve on then how, how should your practice look like? So how should your practice look like? The golden rules are less effort with more sound. So always do less effort and the best sound. The other one is the control, control, control, control, control. This is really important to do everything which control and always control how you do your breaths and how you do your vocals, your sounds, how you control the air and how you control all the techniques, the vocal discipline and the like I said before, the patients on the vocal discipline practice. Before practice. Always warm-up, always, never miss that. It doesn't matter if you warm up for 5 min or 10 min or 2030, 40 s to warm up every time enough to do the breath techniques and some of the basic screaming techniques. And at the beginning you're probably only will be able to practice like ten, 20 min at first. If you get tired than just go back to it later that day or just sleep on it and then come back to it another, another day and it will improve on time. Like I said before, this is a very physical and tiring workout for your vocal cords. So don't give up. And if you get tired, it's not a problem. Just come back to the practices later and be patient always and don't be discouraged if it doesn't work immediately. You're supposed to practice this every day for a lot of times. Like I said, this whole vocal cords consists of like three months of my lessons. So the students themselves that come back to the sense of mine, they are getting through this lever around three months. Yeah, you should be patient and practice regularly. Thank you very much for getting my vocal course. I hope I could give you the wisdom and the information that you needed in order to become a great extreme vocalist. And I hope I could help you on that journey.