Well, this leaves something to be desired in terms of the jagged inner edge caused by the initial triangle rotate. Couldn't sort it so carried on. Probably chose the wrong size triangle but had trouble making it work anyway so when it did, I carried on! It occurs to me I could position a 3pt line at it's edge to smooth it off but it's lunchtime now :) Thanks for another good class. I went mad on the last one but they're here in essence,assembled into one image.