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Presentation Skills: Give Great Skype Video Presentations

TJ Walker, Public Speaking and Media Training Expert

Presentation Skills: Give Great Skype Video Presentations

TJ Walker, Public Speaking and Media Training Expert

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11 Lessons (37m)
    • 1. Presenting Online Promo

    • 2. Presenting Online Overview

    • 3. Presenting Online Video Verus Slides

    • 4. Presenting Online Advanced Materials

    • 5. Presenting Online Use Notes

    • 6. Presenting Online Interactivity

    • 7. Presenting Online Techology for Interaction

    • 8. Presenting Online How to Look Good on Camera

    • 9. Presenting Online Length

    • 10. Presenting Online Video Rehearse

    • 11. Presenting Online Conclusion

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Presentation Skills: You can give effective presentations in any online environment.

Presentation Skills. Public Speaking Online-You Can Present Effectively on Skype

Imagine yourself presenting online, on Skype video or Google Hangouts, and you are just as confident, relaxed and persuasive as if you are speaking to a small group of friends in the same room with you. You can be a master at online Presentation Skills.

In this " How to Speak and Present Online" course you will learn how to give effective presentations on webinars, Skype video conferences and online videos. You can come across as comfortable, confident and relaxed anytime you speak online in front of a video camera. It's never been easier to speak to a worldwide audience, but many people avoid online speaking because of insecurities or the belief that the medium requires specialized skills and talents.

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  • Give online presentations
  • Present on Skype and other online venues
  • Speak on camera

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"5 Stars! Skype is becoming part of everyone's digital presence and with Blab, Periscope, and a host of other formats, they aren't going away. TJ breaks down your 'performance' in front of the camera and helps you to understand it. That goes a long way towards your psyche incorporating it into your brain. (or whatever the terminology should be)." Teresa Trimm

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TJ Walker

Public Speaking and Media Training Expert


TJ Walker is the founder of Media Training Worldwide and has been conducting public speaking training workshops and seminars since 1984. Walker has trained Presidents of countries, Prime Ministers, Nobel Peace Prize winners, Super Bowl winners, US Senators, Miss Universes and Members of Parliament .

Walker has more than 100,000 online course enrollments and more than 100,000 online students.

His book, "Secret to Foolproof Presentations" was a USA Today # 1 Bestseller, as well as a Wall Street Journal, and Business Week Bestseller.

Walker is also the author of "Media Training AZ" and "Media Training Success."

In 2009, Walker set the Guinness Book of World Records for Most Talk Radio Appearances ever in a 24 hour period.

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1. Presenting Online Promo: do you have an opportunity to present online these days with Skype Webinars, Go to meeting. There's a lot of different ways of communicating to people online through your business. Your organization's You may have more more opportunities to do this, but it's different from a face to face audience. It's different from speaking to a news media reporter. This course is going to teach you a with the ins and outs of how to present in the most effective way possible online. I'm T. J. Walker. I've done hundreds of not thousands of webinars Skype meetings, interviews in an online environment. I want to share with you the secrets I've developed over the years, so sign up right now. 2. Presenting Online Overview: presenting online now you may already be a comfortable speaker face to face talking in front of crowds talking to the media. But in a sense that's easier than speaking online. When you're speaking to a live audience, you could look people in the eye. You can ask them questions they can ask you back. There can be an interactivity when you're speaking to a reporter, a talk show host. You could see a real person there. But online is, in a sense, more difficult than those because you can't see the people looking at you unless it's a live Skype for him. So there is something different about presenting online. This course is going to give you tips to increase the odds that you're successful and that you'll know how to come across comfortable, confident, relaxed any time you have to communicate online because it is a little different. And for some people it's the hardest type of communication. And because of that, people often grab onto crutches that really make things worse. For example, nothing's worse than just hearing a voice and seeing a bunch of slides of bullet points come by. And when you think of presenting online. That's probably what you think of. I would say that's the lazy man's lazy woman's way of doing it. These days, virtually every computer has a webcam, so there's no reason why people can't actually see you. Speaking now doesn't mean you can't have slides. But if you've got an opportunity to present in an online environment on Skype on the webinar on Google chat room, wherever it is, use it. Don't hide behind a little picture or video image. So your first assignment here is pig, a topic about five minutes or so that you have to present two people in an online environment. Think of the topic. Start thinking about what you want to say. 3. Presenting Online Video Verus Slides: The first decision you have to make when you're going to present online is Are you gonna do it? Sort of the easy coward's way of just having your voice and a bunch of pictures, Or are you gonna do it the honest way and a more powerful way, which is to show yourself speaking. Now I'm talking about any online presentation, whether it's a recorded YouTube video, whether you are doing a webinar through some sort of webinar service Skype talking to people, a Google chat, there's always the chance to sort of hide behind graphics. I mean, this is a little video loop behind me, but I'm not trying to use that as the only thing for you to look at because I want you to see me so you can get a sense of what I think is important. It's just easier for people to follow your concepts, your message if they conceal what least part of the time. So that's the first decision you've got to make. Because if you make the decision to just sort of speak and read from a script, it's gonna be really hard not to bore people to death. Now I'm gonna give you tips that will apply to a lot of different situations, including those where people can Onley here. You. But I would urge you right now, make the decision to use video for yourself. And if you're not using video, ask yourself What are your reasons? If you're reasons are, I don't like to be on video or I'm not a good TV person out those air. Bad reasons. If you have a message and you can communicate it with some conviction, some passion you could be fined on video because anyone who can speak well in person people can see that. Why not let them see you in a video format to online? So if we're gonna do a video, let me give you a few tips. The way people mess up the most is just with a few basic technical flaws. They start with any time they're doing video, whether it's a webcam, whether it's Skype, whether it's Google Chat and here the problems, they start off with a camera too low, and it's sort of looking up their nose. No one kind of looks good like that, and it's very easy if you're using a laptop or even a desktop, and the camera is 68 12 inches below. You're gonna look awful. Here's a simple solution. Get a stack of books. Get some old phone books. If you still have those, get some other books and simply raise your laptop. Raise your desktop to the point where your camera is at eye level. No, I'm not in a super fancy, expensive studio now, but my camera is at my eye level, so it looks more like a TV show. It looks more professional than the typical sort of Skype video, so that's the first step. Now. The next area where people really go wrong is they have a window behind them, so there's more light behind them. Then there is in front of them. So what that does is that darkens out your face. People can't see your face. You look like a shadowy criminal figure. The solution is relatively easy. Closure blinds or aim the camera to a wall where there's no window behind it, and then what you need is some light in front of. You know, I do have professional lights on here, but there been times, and I've simply used lamps taking the lamp shade off. As long as there's more light in front of you focused on your face, then behind you, it's going to be easy for the camera to pick you up and you'll look your best. The third big area for trouble for most people is the audio. If you're using the microphone built into your computer, it's going to sound tinny, tinny, echoey. It's just not going to be great. So when I would recommend is by you see it right here. This is a love microphone. Short for Laval ear microphone. You could buy one at RadioShack for 20 bucks. You could get one on Amazon for probably about nine bucks. It's not expensive, but this way the microphone is only this far away from your mouth. If you're speaking and sitting at your desk, then it's gonna be more like 234 feet away from the microphone. And that's what creates that echoey sound. When you have good audio quality, it makes it so much easier for people to listen to you. When the lighting is right and people are looking up your nose, everything is less distracting. You can come across as professional, confident, authoritative. It's just easier to listen to. So I would urge you take a few minutes, come up with these things. I realize you can't buy a microphone like that, but you get place in order right now, and it could be there two days if you're using Amazon Prime. But I'm not pushing Amazon. Use any service you want. Get a mic anywhere, but you can't very quickly elevate your computer and make sure you don't have a blind behind you. Put light in front of you. Do those steps, and you will be so much happier with how you look and how you sound for when you are presenting online. So go ahead and try to change your own configuration right now, either in your office, your home, your laptop on the road, wherever you are trying to get a configuration so that when you record yourself on video, you are comfortable with how it looks 4. Presenting Online Advanced Materials: when you are presenting online, realize that you can start communicating with people before they ever sign on to see you. Before there were watching that YouTube video before they ever sign on for that one PM Webinar start time you can communicate by e mailing them content in advance. Now here's where the typical PowerPoint slide with lots of numbers and lots of words, graphs, charts. It could be handy because if you are presenting to 50 colleagues around the country within your trade organization or perhaps within your company E mail them if you get the emails in advance, your entire presentation document background material, White papers. Now you may be said, Well, did you see if I do that, no one will want to show up. No one will listen, doesn't work like that. Friends more is more. The more you give people, the more they will want from you. And they will not complain. I promise you that. Wow, that was the same thing is what I read and memorized, cause people don't remember much. They certainly don't remember something glancing at it, quickly reading it on a cell phone and then hearing you talk about it two days later. Now, of course, you shouldn't be reading your power point. The same thing you sent to them in your presentation will talk about how you actually present later. But I do want to stress It's a great great opportunity for you to start the communication process by e mailing people taxed documents in advance of your actual live webinar Skype meeting. Go to meeting now. Frequently, I'm asked to train people on, for example, media train in a live webinar. Before I ever talked to them, I send them not one, but two my media training books to read those who want to read it, read it. Those who don't want to read it don't read it. But it least it gives people an opportunity. Also helps cement my reputation in their minds of a This guy is serious about this stuff. He's ordered a couple of books on just this one niche subject. The other thing is, when I've touched on certain themes in the presentation, they're more likely to go back and read. The document is sent to them in advance, so keep in mind, and this applies to presentations in real life too when you're face to face, don't be afraid to give people information in advance. I guarantee you, if you email people a large PdF or a book or a white paper a week before your presentation or a day before your presentation, they're not going to sit there, print that out, start watching you in this online environment and then be flipping through paper text to see where it tracks. I understand. Sometimes people are concerned with that. Don't be. But again, this is all predicated on the assumption that you're not simply going to email them a whole bunch of bullet points and then be reading the bullet points from the same document. You need to use a different document. Keep in mind it. Any group you speak to, they're gonna be some people who are really low level interest in what you're talking about . They'll just show up, and even then, half the time they're doing this or they've got another screen open. If they're watching you online, there's some people who are moderately interested. They're not gonna do anything before after, but they will pay attention. But they're going to be some people who are highly highly interested in this topic that you're discussing, and they're going to find it a fascinating topic. They really want to learn as much as they can. I can't tell you in your audience if that's going to be 50% 5% or 50.5%. But my point is, you might as well reach them. And that's where giving them more content. The better, the more the merrier. For that group, you'll create more permanent bonds with them. You will help them, or you will further cement your reputation, your brand, with them as the expert on that subject. So don't be shy about giving people lengthy white papers lengthy PDS again. You don't want to read it. They don't have to. If you give somebody 100 pages and they want to read a five page document, give them the whole thing. They could be the 1st 5 pages. Ideally, you have a nice executive summary in two pages. So if they quit after two pages, they consisted will get what's really important to you. The more ways you communicate, the better. Now I do think when someone's watching you speak, whether it's in person or online, that's a very, very powerful way, but it's even more powerful when you combine it with them. Having read information, books, PDFs, white pages, press releases in advance. So please use that tool. If you have a video clip, you could send that to them in advance just because you have a set time 1 p.m. Eastern on a Wednesday to address people don't think for a moment that that means you can't communicate in every other format. So that's what I want you to do. Now come up with some kind of a document. It could be a simple one page faction. Come up with some one page document that you're willing to email to your audience that really covers the most important aspects of your online presentation. 5. Presenting Online Use Notes: I'm hoping I've convinced you for your online presentations to actually present where the video camera is on you. I think it's so much more powerful. It shows so much more confidence on your part. It will build your own personal brand, but it is a little different now when you're presenting in front of a large audience, you may be used to having a lectern. You may be used to walking around. That could make you more comfortable, and you might be clicking. Using the slides is your teleprompter. It's a little bit different for online, however, some things remain the saints or so, for example, here my notes for my presentation to you today. On this, I just have a single sheet of paper and some text. There's absolutely nothing wrong, nothing whatsoever, wrong with talking to people. Look in the camera but then occasionally glance down at your notes. Now that's far different from head buried in reading like this, like a robot, because that will put everybody to sleep. You need notes. You need a cheat sheet for yourself. I would highly recommend you keep it to a single sheet of paper, even if you're presenting for an hour got more than that. You probably haven't done enough editing, so don't try to memorize, for goodness sake, don't try to read to people when you're giving an online presentation. And that's one of the biggest falls, Frankly, of no video camera people think, Wow, nobody can see me. I could just sit here and read the script and nobody will know I'm reading a script. Well, yeah, people know they can tell with a tone of your voice. Unless you're a full time professional newscaster, It's virtually impossible to read text without sounding like you're reading text, and that puts people to sleep. You need to sound like you're just talking to people in that this is a presentation we've all seen presenters in real life college professors, business executives with their head is down and they're just reading, and it's boring. And what does everyone do? They sort of half listen and they're checking their even. You do not want to give people a chance to zone out, because that's one thing different about online presentations. It's bunch much easier your audience to zone out because they're already at their computer . Their Facebook pages, one click away. The sports scores are one click away. Their stock prices always one click away, so you do not have the luxury of droning on. Being boring. Sounding like you are reading do not have that luxury. So that's why you've got to seem like you care about this, and you've got to be looking into the camera. I'll give you more tips shortly on how to look your best on camera, but you've got to be looking at the camera and speaking like you're talking to a real human being. But I'm not expecting you to memorize everything. So please get your cheat cheat. Ready? That's your homework right now. Put together a one page cheat sheet for your five minute online presentation now. 6. Presenting Online Interactivity: probably the most important thing about presenting online and this is where it's different from face to face presentations is you've gotta really work almost every second of your presentation interaction. You need to be asking people questions, giving them an excuse and motivating them to do something back. They can post a comment on a chat room. You want to be asking for questions constantly. You may want to put for the question in a polling format. If you have this sort of software where you can see who is online reference that you can say and Jamie, you had a similar experience with this with your company in Kansas City, can you share with us briefly how that happened now if they have the chance to come on with their audio? Great. If you're not using a system that allows that level of interactivity, maybe you simply reference Jamie in Kansas City because you spoke to her earlier that day or a week earlier or a year earlier. When somebody hears their name, it's human nature for them up. Better pay attention, so reference the people in the room give them homework assignments. Toss out questions again. You're gon still gotta worry about people starting to listen to you. But I got a text from a friend. What? He can't come tonight. Oh my And you've lost them. It is so much easier to lose people in online presentations. And that's why I've got a stress again and again and again. Interactivity. The more questions you ask, people, the more polls, the more you reference actual individuals who you know are in the audience, the better. It's virtually impossible to be to interact. Now, of course, you have to deliver core content. You have to put forth good, useful ideas. You've got to demonstrate your expertise. But what you can't do is do a big data dump and not give people the chance to asked questions, by the way, every so often, just stop and say, Am I making sense so far? Are you with me in a normal presentation? You can do that by looking at the eyes of the people in your audience because they're kind of like that will send you a signal to go back and give another example. Another case study on the point you just hit. But when it comes to online presentations. We lose all of these verbal cues, and that's why it's critically important. Toss out questions, toss outpolls reference people again and again and again throughout. 7. Presenting Online Techology for Interaction: There's a lot of different technology that will help your audience interact with you when you're giving an online presentation. Skype is different from Google chat. That's different from the YouTube chan aspect. That's different from Go to meeting my advice to you. Whatever system you're using, you've really got to get familiar with it and you need to practice before the actual event because sometimes there's a little chant box here. If you don't know, is there, you're gonna miss it. You're gonna think, Wow, no one interacted at all. I'm unpopular and maybe there were 50 messages and you didn't see them. It's very, very hard toe. Learn a new technology. When you're giving a speech, we tell you right now I don't care how often you do it. There's a little bit of adrenaline flowing, and when you know that 50 100 maybe 1000 people are watching you or listening to you, that's the absolute worst time to learn a new technology. So don't try. You simply want to go with the flow and be in the moment presenting when you're doing that . So that's why it's crucial that you learn the technology platform you're in exactly how the interaction goes now. Worst case scenario. Give people your email address. There's no I've done that plenty of times, especially if the chat box was supposed to work and it didn't work. Give people your email address because you can just quickly pull up your Gmail whatever service you're using and read an email question from someone, read an email comment from someone. There's no perfect way. It's just you need to know exactly the technology someone can use now. So more advanced systems make it relatively easy for someone to just speak. That's the best of all possible worlds. But you've got to make sure if that happens, the people, not speaking, have there mute button on. Otherwise you're gonna get all sorts of feedback dog noises around. There's gonna be too much cluttering. People won't be able to hear it, so I certainly do recommend allowing other people to have their voices on. But you've got to really monitor that so that the feedback doesn't overwhelm it. Bottom line learned the technology of the platform you're using for interactivity and then make it easy for people to do it. By the way, this applies even to win. It's not live. If you are shooting a video and you're putting it on YouTube, make sure you enable it so that people can leave comments. I mean, it's basic stuff, but too often people are worried of. Oh, what if someone says something critical area don't like it, grow up. Criticism is a part of life. But leave me. I get criticism all the time, especially on YouTube. A lot of it's nasty, personal, vicious, beady eyed, bald, ugly, stupid guy. Look, if you have to put it so the comments had to be approved first. But make it easy for people to communicate back with you. You've got to master that technology of interactivity, and you've got to make it so that the people you're speaking to know you want comments on your YouTube videos. Tell people please comment here and let's start a discussion. That's what you want. The best presentations in the world are more group discussions than they are one way communication 8. Presenting Online How to Look Good on Camera: So let me address the number One reason most people don't present online where you actually see them. It's because people don't know how to look their best. They're afraid of looking stupid, scared, nervous, uncomfortable, unflattering Double chins, shell way, all legitimate reasons. We're all human beings. We all have some level of vanity, So might as well come to grips with this. I'm going to show you exactly how to come across your best. The number one problem most people have when they are presenting online is they freeze. I'm here today to tell you about the professional services at my X y Z company and everything freezes except their mouth. So the best thing you can do is to move, move the way you do when you're normally relaxed. Talking to a friend, talking to a colleague Now it's easier to say that that it is to do it. You're going to have to practice, but the thing to remember is you have to move your head, see how my head is moving. If you doubt me, hit the mute button on the video now you'll see my head is still moving. You want to move your head. You want to move your face, You also want to move your body and you do want to move your hands. Now, even though you might not see my hands, my hands air moving Because when you move your hands, your body moves more. Your voice has more fluctuation to it. Those things will have you looking relaxed and comfortable. So you want movement? The next thing you have to remember is you've gotta lean forward a little bit. Now I'm standing for this. It's probably gonna be easier for you to be sitting. That's just how I have my studio set up. But if you're doing this from your laptop or your desktop, no reason why you can't sit. But here's what happens. If you're sitting back relaxed, you're gonna look like you have a double chin. Even if you don't have a double chin, you're gonna look fatter and heavier than you are, even if you're not overweight. So the worst position you can ever have is sitting back. The next big mistake people have is sitting up perfectly straight because now I look scared and stiff and nervous. You need to lean forward about 15 degrees into the camera. So here, I mean from a side view you can now see I am leaning forward. It's not necessarily good posture in the traditional sense, but it will make you look best on TV. It creates a stronger jawline, and the camera latches on to your face. The other thing that's crucial. Your eyes. If you're trying to look at the camera and then you have your notes up on the wall or a teleprompter over here, you become literally shifty eyed again. As I mentioned in an earlier lecture, there's nothing wrong with occasionally glancing down, looking at notes and coming back and doing it again, but most the time you should be looking at the camera. The key, of course, is you have to keep moving your head, because if your head freezes and nothing else is moving again, it looks like a robot. You don't seem believable. The other thing that's important on camera, she in a little bit of a smile, because if you're just like this and talking like this, it's gonna make your face look blank's scared flat, uninterested. So you need a little bit of a smile on your face just to look relaxed and comfortable. So these are the basics. I want you to record yourself on video now, specifically practicing, moving your face, moving your high proud, moving your head, moving your body and moving your hands. Do it. All right. Now record it and then look at it, See what you think. 9. Presenting Online Length: How long should your presentation be that you're giving online Now The thing you hear again and again again for people, is Oh, everything's got to be short has got to be sure no one has any attention span. That's not exactly true. You can do on online presentation for 60 seconds. But if it's boring and un interesting and you're putting forth stuff that isn't useful to people, everyone will hit delete after five seconds. On the other hand, if you've got really good interesting content, you could be speaking for 90 minutes and people are gonna be demanding more. So the number one thing I think that should drive your presentation is what is it that you've got to communicate? How important is it to you and to your audience? Certainly, if you're speaking to 50 colleagues in your company to report to you and they are in 30 different locations around the world and you've got something that's really, really important, I wouldn't put an artificial arbitrary five or 10 minutes Thai limit on the presentation you're delivering through Skype or YouTube or any other format, focus on the content that really needs to be delivered. Certainly give people time to interact. Now, if you are working, for example, with the trade association and they have 90 minute webinars three times a week and that's the format and that's what people have paid for, that's what they're used to. Well, then you need to be prepared to go 90 minutes, but even then realize it may only be 50 minutes of your talk time in the rest. Q and A So you don't want toe pack it so full that you're not giving people time to talk. Now, when you're doing YouTube videos, what I have found works best is to focus on just one idea, one concept, But then talk for a so long as you have interesting content, it might be 10 seconds. It might be three hours. I mean, if it's three hours, you could probably break it up. But my point is, don't arbitrarily make it shorter. Some of the videos I have on my YouTube channel that have the longest retention and the most views our video's where I spoke for half an hour. However, I can tell you the average length of someone watching a recorded video on YouTube for me is one minute, 31 seconds. Yours may be different, but the main principle here I want to stress is you're not a TV show. You're not trying to do things with a 62nd stock stopwatch. Focus on the ideas, focus on what you have to really help your audience and the the length of the presentation often take care of itself. 10. Presenting Online Video Rehearse: so we made a lot of progress. You're about ready to give your online presentation, but not yet. There's one final step. It's the most important step. It's the step you're not gonna like. You're not going to enjoy this, but it is far and away the most important step. And that is you need to rehearse your entire presentation on video. Now, since you're doing this at your computer and online environment, it should be really easy to record it on video. You already have a camera. You have absolutely no excuse. You can always use the YouTube application. Your computer may have a movie maker, some other format. It doesn't matter what software you use to record yourself, but if you want to have absolute confidence for that online presentation, there's only one way to get it. And that is to practice on video. Watch it and for you to like it now, for so of you, you may record it once, look at and say, Wow, that's great, T J. I couldn't do better. That's fantastic. We're good to go. Fine. You get to go home early, but for many of us, you can look at the practice and say, Wow, I'm speaking way too quickly here. That's bad or God, I sound so soft spoken here I seem hesitant, like I don't believe it. Make notes of it. I need you to practice your online presentation in a video format. Watch it and then I want you to get a sheet of paper or your cell phone. That's how you want to write. And I want you to write down what you like, what you don't like in the online presentation. And then I want you to practice again on video, and I want you to critique it again. And ideally, the list of stuff you don't like goes down. The stuff of the list of Steffy Light goes up until after a while. The likes airway up here and the dislikes airway down here, and you can look at that video and say, Wow, if I could give my online presentation and it's half a good is this, I'll be happy. This is how I want to come across. If that weren't me, I would find this speech interesting, and I think I'll be presenting better than anyone else at this online conference or anyone else in my organization presenting on this topic, you've got to get to the point where you can see it, not by a consultant or a coach saying, Hey, way to go, Good job that's worthless. You have to see that video and have a role model for yourself in the role model. Isn't me the role model issue? You need to see a video of your online presentation that you're happy with. Once you get to that point, the rial presentation will be a piece of cake. So that's your homework right now. Practice your presentation on video. Keep doing it until you like it. 11. Presenting Online Conclusion: we're in the homestretch. You are ready to give your online presentation. If this is a big if you did the exercise I asked for in the last lecture. If you have not practiced your presentation online and recorded on video and watched it, you aren't ready. If all you're doing is watching these videos of me, frankly, you're wasting your time. You should be looking at some comedy characters or something. Entertainment on YouTube. It'll be a better use of time than simply watching me. You've got to do the exercise. So I beg you, if you haven't done a jet, go back and video, record your presentation and get to the point Hillier, where you're happy with it, done that to be perfect. Like the last sentence. I stumbled over a word that's okay. People do that in real conversation. Doesn't really matter. Get to the point where you're happy with it and you're coming across comfortable, confident, relaxed. Two final points. I want to leave you with number one. Like anything else. The more you do it, they were comfortable. You get generally better, you get so when you have opportunities to speak out to present online take them. And you know what? All of you have opportunities every day because you could make a YouTube video commenting on your area of expertise, especially if there's anything in the news related to that. So speak out. Present online is often it's possible you'll get better and better, and you'll get more comfortable with it. The second thing is, use every single online presentation you give as an opportunity to get better for the next one. What that means is you need a video recording of your online presentations and watch it after the fact, preferably in the 1st 24 hours, because how you think it went and how it actually went, may be very different. You may think you were awful and then you watch and you think, Wow, that was great. There's great interaction. This is fine. On the other hand, you may think this is great. I'm really rocking and you watch it and you realize this is boring. I wouldn't wanna watch may. That's useful information to if you've ever been to a comedy club, you'll see comedians recording. They put a little recording device, often the cellphone. They're recording every stand up comedy bit. They do because they want to go back and listen. What got laughs? What didn't. You're not after laughs, but you are trying to figure out what worked and what didn't work. So if you do that record every online presentation you get and then watch it and listen to it, you can get a little bit better for the next one. Keep doing that over time. You'll just get better and better and better. Good luck. I'll see you online.