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1. Course Introduction: Dear investors, dear Loners, thanks for taking this course. The Auto Value Investing. First of all, let
me introduce myself and what is my relationship
with Value Investing. So my name is Kenny Carrera. I'm half Luxemburg,
half Spanish. I've been since around the
year 2000 value investor with more than 1 million in
equity invested and no debt, but that's something that
we'll discuss later on about the attitude and the mindset
of a serious value investor. Thanks to value
investing, in fact, I was able with my family
to retire since 2022, so I no longer have a
full day job, in fact. So when people ask
me what is unique, is that I have my financial
and intellectual freedoms now since three years. And this is thanks
to Val investing. That's why I decided
actually already in 2020, when I was preparing my active retirement,
I wanted, in fact, to at least share
how I was able to retire actively by building up wealth and the snowball effect as Warren Buffett calls it. Prior to that, my
professional experience, I've been in
cinemnagement positions including in Microsoft. I'm still today an
independent board director. I'm lecturing at
University of Luxembourg and also the ASCA
School of Management, which is one of the leading
French business schools. And I have also done executive
certifications from ISL, for example, for being a certified independent
board director. And I will cover the
conversation about Vin GPT at the end of
this intro lecture. I'm also the co founder
and in the meantime, the CEO of Vin GPT, which is an AI companion
for Val Investors. You want to know more about me, if you want to follow me, you
can follow me on LinkedIn. I've put you here the links. You can also follow
our YouTube channel and also go to our website. Now, going back to ValieVsing, what were the
underlying assumptions when I decided to
write this course? The first assumption
is that, I mean, you may see here
in my background, I have one of my libraries, and there are many, many, many books about
corporate finance, ValianVasing, books
from Benjamin Graham, Peter Lynch, Warren
Buffett, et cetera. And what I was really missing is like a summary
of all those books. So I decided and this course, the first time it
has been published, has been August 2020. So I decided to write
across that kind of summarizes all my learnings
over the last 25 years. That was one of the first assumptions
writing this course. The second one is that I spend and you don't see it
necessarily in the background, but I have a book
about all the annual shelter meetings of
Berkshire Hathaway, so Warren Buffett and Charlie
Mangas holding Company. I've spent hours and hours, weeks and weeks of reading
those annual Shala meetings, listening also to
the podcast to learn from Warren Buffett
over the last 25 years. And I also tried to extract
from those from the time that I spent and invested
into reading those annual Shelter meetings and listening to the
podcast as well, of the annual Shala meetings, including the Q&A part of
those show meetings to really try to
extract the essence of them and bring them
into this course. Third one, and as you
already have understood, I learned a lot from
Benjamin Graham, Warren Buffett, Chol
Manga, Peter Lynch, Aswadamodan, as well, speaking
about company valuation. But one of the things that I was somehow missing was, I mean, Warren Buffett, and
we will discuss it, of course, in the fundamental
analysis of a company. Warren Buffett has been
speaking a lot about modes. So modes is, in fact, the water around the castle, and the broader the mode,
the wider the more, the more difficult it is
to attack the castle. So this is trying to symbolize
a little bit how strong a company is actually
and how strong a company can defend its
current market position. Was missing in terms
of mode because on Buffett is very often
speaking that a way to observe a white mode
is that the company is able to have a very high
return on invest capital, which is something that
we'll discuss, of course, in this course, when we speak about profitability
of companies. So he was mentioning
often that having an RIC around eight to 10% for at least five years in a row is a way of observing a white mode, meaning that the company
can probably earn higher margins on selling
its products and services, and customers are probably
happy with the products. Hence, they're willing
to pay a premium price, so the switching costs are
high for those customers. Or the retention is high, meaning the churn, the
customer churn is low. But one of the things
I was missing, with all due respect
for An Buffett is a way to quantify this. And, I mean, who am I? I'm a very small
investor compared to those Black Rock
type of companies. I don't have I cannot call
the CEO of Coca Cola or Pepsi or Microsoft and try
to get inside information. Believe that a way of capturing signals how a
company will also develop in the future is trying
to find elements about customer satisfaction
and employee satisfaction. And that's something
that I added on top of my learnings
of Warren Buffer, holly Mongo, the people I mentioned a couple
of minutes ago. And I added what is called the Level
three or the mode and intangible matrix
where I'm actually sharing how I look
at white modes, not just from an
profitability perspective, but also how the company
is perceived by customers, employees, and also what is the brand perception out there. So this is something
that also I've put as an underlying assumption is
actually ongoing research, and I'm adding this type of elements into
the course as well. So the learning
objectives, I mean, I will walk you through also the agenda or the table
of contents of the cross. But one of the main elements, if you want to be a
serious investor, you need to understand
the main concepts of risk versus return
because, I mean, as an investor, if you
have money available, you can invest into
multiple types of assets, and not all assets carry
the same amount of risk. And it's important to
understand that I mean, the type of return expectations that you're going
to have will also depend on the riskiness of the asset and on your
risk appetite, actually. Key thing to understand
even financial statements, I will explain to you the
circulatory system of money. So where money and capital is coming from
with debt holders and equity holders
and how this is then reflected in assets in the
balance sheet of the company. But understanding the system of money is something key as
a serious value investor. Other things as well, we
speak about the mindset. So I'm always saying,
even though you only have maybe $5,000 to invest
into a company, you should always think like a shareholder of the company. So if you would have unlimited firepower, so unlimited budget, would you buy the whole company, even though you may only have 5,000 or 50,000 or
half $1 million? So that's in terms
of the mindset, that's something that
also I want you to understand that one of
the objectives going out of this curse is you think as a business owner and not just as a speculator to earn very
rapidly a little bit of money. What is already said, so the intention of
a value investor is not to be speculative. So investors value investors, they go in for the long run. Typically, they act as business
owners as shareholders. So as Warren Buffett ways said, when he was buying
into companies, he would have accepted
that he would not have the stock market give him a price over the
next couple of years because he was trusting
in the company and, let's say, the operations and
how sound the company was running its operation and also its customer
supplies and employees. Intention of this course as well to give you a repeatable
investment process. You're going to see
this. So the course is structured into
three big parts. I mean, to summarize it, we'll call it level one,
level two, level three. So it's fundamental analysis, intrinsic valuation,
and then the mode and intangible assets. You're going to have
at the very end also a one slider that even I have
here in front of my desk, always to remember what is my
investment process as well. As part of the repeat
investment process, you're going to have also
what a lot of value investors consider as the holy
grail of investing, which is being able to calculate what is the
intrinsic value of a company? So what is the value
of a company today versus what the share
price, what the market, like Wall Street or the
Euronex is giving you today as a market
price, in fact, and being able to see the difference and
determine if today the market is super excited and too excited
about the company, and you would be
paying a premium, and you're going to see
this in the intro lecture, where Charlie Monk is
mentioned that the company is not worth an endless price. It has to be somewhere limited versus sometimes
the market is so depressed that you
can actually buy a company's great companies
at a very high discount. Being able to determine
the company mode, you already discussed it. That's the mode and
intangible metrics, including net promoter score for CSMAs and employee
net promoter score for employee satisfaction. And also, you will
learn how to navigate into accounting data
because at Rom Buffett, the lingo of business is accounting and
corporate finance. If you want to be a
serious investor, you need a little bit to
understand how that works. And this comes back also to the circulatory system of money. Right. One thing that
is also and always important in the
courses that I provide and I try to share my knowledge as a former company executive, but also as an independent board director is that, of course, there's going to be elements in this course that will
be about theory, but will try to practice as much as possible with examples. And as I'm always
saying to my students, being a high performance
sports athlete as an example, require us to practice a lot. And I mean, it's not just
about knowing the theory. You have, for example, to read those financial statements. You have to practice doing
the intrinsic evaluation. And I will give you
tools how to do that that will actually
make you win a lot of time. Now, in terms of table of
contents or course content, so I mean, we already
in the introduction. This is the first lecture
of the introduction part. We will then discuss
key concepts, though it's a little bit like the foundation of the house, understanding risk
versus return, the circularity system
of cash, for example, understanding the
different types of investment assets as well, and also the three main financial statements
so balance sheet, cash flow statement
and income statement. Going to discuss the
mindset that's going to be very pretty short chapter. But it's important that
you understand also how to think as a serious investor, and I will share with you those
five plus one attributes. Then this is the
core of the course. So this is going to be this repeatable
investment process, what is called the
fundamental analysis, the fundamental screens
or the level one screens. The level two, the intrinsic
valuation process. I'm going to share with
you various methods, how to calculate the
intrinsic value of a company. Then the third part of your investment process
that at least I do is looking at how customers
feel about the company, the brand strength, and also how employees feel
about the company. So that's the whole idea. The intention is really
that you're able to go from top down to bottom
up that you have the right mindset and that you can then go
into the details, even being able to read and understand financial statements. But also on the
other way around, if you're able to read and understand financial
statements that you take actually that you have a repeatable investment process and that you have
the right mindset. This is, in fact, one of
the most important slides that I want to already share
in the very first lecture, which is a slide and let me explain what the
slide, in fact, means. So typically, what you have
is markets, they fluctuate, and I will introduce the
persona of Mr. Market, as Benjamin Graham
has been introducing this person in his books, also the Intelligent Investor. And Mr. Market is, as he's explaining, sometimes depressed and sometimes
very excited. What is important for
a serious investor is that you're
able to calculate, to understand, to
weigh from waiting. So to weigh what is the
company value per share. And comparing that
intrinsic value with the share price or the price that the market
is giving you today, a good value investor does this homework and
sees opportunities typically when the
market is giving you the company at a
discount of 25% 30%. This is what is called
the margin of safety. I'm sharing with you,
and there's something I learned also from
Graham and Buffett that typically when
you have a margin of safety of 25% to 30% and you have done your homework
and you have understood which assumptions brought
you to this intrinsic value. We're going to be
discussing this and practicing this as well. That maybe actually, and if the company has
sound financials, there may be a buying signal, in fact, this is what
this graph is all about. So the intention that you
take rational decisions. I can already tell
you you will not be able to perfectly
time the market. I have been sitting sometimes on companies for five years until the market recognize the
real value of the company, but I will give you a
way also on how I earn passive income money
while the market, sorry is not recognizing the intrinsic value
of the company. So I will explain those
two levers on how I actually have been
growing our family wealth. Last but not least, so
we will do labs as well. So as part of the Level one, Level two and Level
three chapters, at the end, you're
going to have labs where I'm introducing Vin GBT. So Vin GBT is a GBT, so you probably know HGBT. So it's a GPT that
has been built by us. For the value investors out
there across the world. We already have
hundreds of users that are using this regularly, and it actually allows
and it reflects actually all the learnings
and all the theory that is being explained
in this course. You, in fact, have a model
that you can prompt, which has its own
knowledge coming from us. Who has its own data
points also coming from us and from the data
brokers we work with. And today, so we are June 2025, where I'm re recording
this intro lecture. It covers 58 stock
markets across the world and more than 35,000
public equity companies. So that's really
something that I mean, we have built it for us. The product has been
launched in May 2024. Our intention is to make you
win time because initially, when I started this Corsi Alvali investing in August 2020, I was providing an L file, but I saw that students were making mistakes on the units, for example, and it took
more or less the process. You had to go into the
financial statements and extract around 12 variables to be able to calculate
the intrinsic value. So 2 hours was still okay. But it was a cumbersome process. And what we have done, in fact, and thanks to the Open
AI engine that we will leverage the
attention mechanism of the Open AI engine. We, in fact, have
built this GBT. So inch stands for value
investing next generation GBT. We have created it, in fact, to go down to just a couple of prompts to be able to do
the fundamental analysis. What I will be sharing
with you on Lecture one, be able to calculate
the intrinsic value. And playing with
the assumptions. I will explain all
this in the course, but I already wanted to share this with you that, in fact, now we have increased
also the productivity of our own investment
process because I continue to be a value investor,
my co founder, as well. But we have built this
specifically also for us to make our investment process faster and spend more time on
the analysis, in fact. That's something that
I wanted to share with you already in advance. And you have here also, if you
want to go to the website, you can go to the website
that is referred here below. Right. So that's all
for the instru lecture. I hope that you will
enjoy this course. Do not hesitate to
reach out to me either through the Q&A forum or
to direct message me, or maybe you will join the discord community
or one of our webinars, I hope to be able to
exchange with you as well, but do not hesitate to raise questions or if
you have doubts or if you want to have things improved in the course,
feel free to do so. So with that, thanks
for your attention and thank you for
the next lecture.
2. The origins of value investing: I connect value investors. So we're still in the
introduction chapter. And as part of the introduction, I think it's important
as potentially future, very invested that you
understand what are the origins of value investing? So I set up here question with three gentlemen
and I could ask you, Who are those regions and maybe you know one or the other. I mean, if you know one, at least probably the one in the middle, which
is Warren Buffett. But let me walk you through
who those three persons are, in fact, on how they are linked to the origins of
value investing. So the first person on
the left hand side, and maybe you know, the
person is Benjamin Graham. He has that in 1976
and he's the father of value investing and he has been writing to founding
texts, rounds, what it was at that time
called neoclassical investing, which was the first book, security analysis, the db dot, the Intelligent
Investor that I've been reading as well a
couple of times where you have some very
important chapters that still apply today. Nearly, let's say 70, 80 years after Benjamin
Graham has been writing those chapters and this book and those
principles that come with, so what are the principles, but what are the
fundamental principles that come with value investing? The first one, which is not the most important one is really not having too much leverage, so not raising too
much debt when you invest into the stock market. The second one, that is a fundamental one is really having a buy-and-hold strategy. Really buying a company,
buying an asset. I mean, thinking like a
business owner and keeping it for a long period of time. The third one is understanding
what an asset is worth, what he was calling
are referring to as fundamental analysis, also
concentrated diversification. So there are a lot of
conversation about alpha betas, et cetera, and how what is
the right portion of a diversification
in a portfolio? I can tell you I'm in my
diversification is very simple. I never own more than ten to 12 companies in my portfolio. Why? Because as a human
I don't have time to a every quarter
read more than, let's say spend enough time reading the financial
statements, the quarterly financial
statements of the companies that I'm an owner, and more than 1012, that will just make
it too much time that I would have
to invest into. So that's why I am diversified. I think currently I am. I have a diversification
of eight companies. But yeah, I never go beyond ten to 12
necessarily bit also what I learned from Benjamin Graham is really what he was calling being concentrated but a
little bit diversified. Otherwise, I mean,
if you want to be, let's say, perfectly
diversified, you can just buy an index like the S&P 500 index that reflects the top 500 companies In the US buying with a margin of safety already introduced
this in the previous lecture, really knowing what
an asset is worth, but then also buying the asset. If we're speaking about publicly listed companies
when the asset is something like 25 to 30%
below its intrinsic value, and hoping and waiting until
the market comes back. And then the market
will in fact correctly value the asset that you have bought and
through that you can. And that's one of the ways, one of the leavers
how to make money, then potentially to sell when the market is
overvaluing that asset, that you would then
potentially sell the asset. And of course, if you want to be doing things differently and maybe being better in terms
of performance versus, and we will be discussing
investment styles. Let Ron like growth
startup investors. Technical traders need to
have a contrarian mindset. And I can tell you, I mean, I'm doing this for more
than 2020 plus years and nearly 25 years. And it does work. So I mean, I always
say the following. I'm always happy when the
stocks and stock markets go down because I will be able to buy companies that I
love at cheaper prices. And obviously when there
are crisis situation or that we're gonna be
discussing market timing, market predictability are
going to have your listening into a video of
Peter Lynch as well, which was also very
famous investor. And you're going to have
every two to four years it's gonna be Christ
on the market. Markets are going down, markets are going up. So this is where in fact
there's gonna be opportunities. And I mean, I've been writing
this course initially, I started writing
this code in 2019, published it the first
time, August 2020. Since August 20, they have the not least two major crisis. Oh, there where you could buy great assets at cheaper prices. And that's basically having a contrarian mindset when
everybody is selling, you in fact, have great
buying opportunities. But of course, you
need to follow certain principles that you
need to buy sound companies, whether financials
are really sound. What can also be said
about Benjamin Graham, he has been, has been
demands of Warren Buffett. Warren Buffett has been
studying with him at Columbia University and
often it's Warren Buffett has actually been working
for Benjamin Graham in the company that was
called Graham human cooperation on
Telegram, retired. One of the things I mean, now switching gears
and moving to Warren Buffett that I feel
with all due respect for Benjamin Graham that I
didn't not feel came across as strong as
with Warren Buffett. Warren Buffett is calling
the mode and I have a specific lecture and specific tests on how
to quantify modes. And also being able to
make most tangible, but really the strategic
unique differentiation, unique positioning
of those companies that have modes
is something that I feel that Benjamin
Graham was not strongly, let's say defending as e.g. Warren Buffett has
been defending. So let's go to Warren Buffett. Warren Buffett, I mean,
if you know him, I mean, he has upon it's
called Charlie Munger, who will come, will discuss about China among
the next slide. But basically,
Warren Buffett has started at the age of 11 already by investing
to the first equity. And since then has
been building up well, then he's one of the top ten
wealthiest persons on Earth with around, I think 2023. His net worth was more
than $100 billion. And he bought initially
he bought a company, it was called
Berkshire Hathaway, which is still the name today of this multinational
conglomerates, which shows a lot of companies. I mean, some companies
are fully owned, like Geico, the insurance
company, Duracell, which is about batteries, began as F, which is
Railway, Fruit of the Loom. So those are very
well-known companies. And then they have
significant portion. So they are Material
shareholders of big brands like e.g. Apple. Apple is still today the biggest portion of the holdings at
Berkshire Hathaway has, but also Coca-Cola think for Coca Cola since
many, many years, if not decades, Berkshire owns around 400 million of shares
of Coca-Cola Company. So the main van
investments principles that were in
buffered it has been defending since
many, many years. In fact, the same
like Benjamin Graham. And as I said, with
one major difference, which is that company
is not any company is a good company in the sense not all companies have
this defendable modes. This unique differentiation
that allows, that allow those companies to charge premium prices
and through that being highly profitable
in a consistent way for many, many, many years. So we will be discussing
that later on as well, because I think I fully agree with Warren
Buffett on that. So it hasn't been
complementing Benjamin, Benjamin Graham's principles
with this modes definition. The third picture on the right-hand side was in fact a picture of
Charlie Munger, who is a partner to Warren Buffett's company,
Berkshire Hathaway. And they're going to
introduce you also when necessary to external
sources, information source. And then here I'm referring
you to a YouTube video, which was an interview by the
BBC of Charlie Munger 2012. So already more
than a decade ago, where I feel as introduction to the principles
of value investing, it's important that you
understand what are the four main
characteristics that Charlie Munger looks into when
investing into businesses. The first one, and we will be discussing this
in Chapter three, and we'll be discussing
the mindset, which is being attentive to dealing with things that you are capable
of understanding. I e.g. I. Do not invest into
banking industry, I do not invest into insurance, I do not invest into
biotech because it's not my my my competence. I don't understand those
businesses and maybe I mean, maybe you are very
fluent in that area. Maybe you're able to easily estimate what a bank is worth. But it's not my investment
universe and that's basically already something here that I can share with you. It's one of the
mindset principles of really investing into
things that you understand. And that's basically what
Charlie Munger is saying here. You need to deal
with things that you're capable of understanding. The second one is that the company has a
competitive advantage. That's basically what we were discussing couple
of seconds ago. The modes. So being able to have to charge premium prices to your
customers, to consumers, what are nearly whatever the
price you charge customers will not go away because
the brand is sticky. So customers, they like the brand and they're
willing to pay more to keep up with the brands. So that's really the
competitive advantage, the mode as Warren
Buffett calls it. So that's something
that Charlie Munger in that interview has
already been addressing. Then of course, and this is
one of the most complex ones because I believe that
CEOs are very good, in my opinion to deceive
people so that you really do not know if they act with a lot of
integrity and talent. And for me, that's
something that I've been discussing as well in the last level three
tells about the modes. How we as external investors, who are we to try to
talk to those CEOs. And even if you would
talk to those CEOs, if they are not, if they do not follow fundamental
values like integrity, and we will never know if
they're talented or not. So there are ways, in my opinion to
try to find out. If management and has a lot
of integrity and talent, and I'm gonna give
you some elements and hard to try to make
this tangible without having you to make the
effort of talking to those executive of companies
that you win in any case, in any case, be able to
talk to those people. But this one is really
the most complex one. Then the fourth one is really, and you remember in the closing slides of the very first lecture
in this training, I was showing you
this graph and I was introducing the concept
of margin of safety. And this is what Charlie
Munger is already seeing here. That no matter how
wonderful a business, it's not worth an
infinite price. So you need to know what is a fair price of the company
that you want to invest into. And hopefully that you can buy the company because
maybe the market is depressed and that you can buy the company may be at 25 to 30%, if not more, margin of safety. When Charlie Munger mentioned the natural
vicissitudes of life, he means by that really that
markets are going up and down and we're going
to be depressed and then super excited, super hard. You're going to see fluctuations
happening in the market. And that's natural. And that's something we will discuss later on when we will be discussing timing of markets,
predictability of markets. Since I started writing
this course, does 19. The cause has been published
for the first time in 2020. So August 2020, they have
been crisis out there, so there have been
opportunities to buy. Great companies are
very cheap prices. We can speak about
the COVID crisis. We can speak about the latest
banking crisis with SBB. So the Silicon Valley
Bank, Credit Suisse, there have been situations in 2022 now a little bit
more than a year. This Ukraine and Russia. Let's say crisis situation
between those two countries. I mean, this is giving opportunities with
all due respect. I mean, I'm not I'm just looking here at it from an
investment perspective. Of course, there are human elements that are
linked to that, that are really out of
this course conversation. And I do respect them
nonetheless lot. But here we just discussing the investment perspective
on those, let's say events. It gives opportunities to
buy great companies as really cheaper prices
are cheap prices and that's what I'm trying to teach you through this course. So if you look at those
form and characteristics, I mean, people have been
asking Charlie Munger, Warren Buffett, I mean, this, those four elements are
very simple set of ideas. Why are not more
people doing this? And it's true. I mean, I don't have
a precise statistic, but through my readings
are understood that not more than ten per cent of the investors in
the stock market or value investments
have been many, many extremely successful
value investors out there. I mean, the most known
are Warren Buffett, Peter Lynch, Charlie
Munger, Benjamin Graham. But there are many
other ones out there. But the ideas appear of
fields so simple that I mean, Warren Buffett and Charlie
Munger has been challenged by a lot more people
speaking about this, why have those ideas
not spread faster? And one of the answers, the answers that Charlie Munger, Warren Buffet as saying
is that, I mean, professional classes,
if it is the academics, if it is Wall Street
traders, I mean, it's true that value
investing to some extent appears so simple
that those people, those professional
classes, could not justify their existence through
value investing. So there is tendency to make
things appear more complex. Speak about alphas
and betas and gammas. And zero m1, m2 on money supply. So, but you don't necessarily
need those kind of things. So very investing, it's not
about adding complexity is about trying to make things
simple, understandable. Of course, you need to have a minimum foundation
of accounting. Being able to understand from
the financial reports of the company and be able to calculate what is
the company worth? And that's what I'm
trying to teach you here. I'm sharing my knowledge since more than 20 years
that I've been doing for myself and today
I can live from it. And I mean, through passive
income, through dividends. I mean, it pays the bills. And I was able to retire
at the age of 50. And that's the kind of thing that I want to share
with you as well. Because I hope that you can
also become intellectually and financially independent as I was able to do with my family. When Warren Buffett speaks,
when he summarizes this professional classes that are trying to make
things more complex. He speaks about the
priesthoods and he really doesn't like
it to be verified. I also don't like it. There are too many Masters in
Finance out there that are tending to make things more
complex just to justify the, if it is a tuition fees or the existence of academic
people out there. You have this as well for media, like there is a tendency
since many years that I mean media and
with all the respective, it is like companies
like Bloomberg. Their core business is
really selling news. What would you expect? How would they feel their daily programs if
they would not invite people and have
people come up with opinions and counter
opinions, et cetera. And with massive
amounts of data. I mean, they
announced, I think was two weeks ago, Bloomberg GPT. So I do agree with Warren
Buffett and even myself. I could not keep up
the speed of, I mean, I would have to
read in the sense of listening to
Bloomberg TV 24 h a day. That's just not possible. So I prefer to have the
perspective of value investing, trading less, really thinking about what's the asset's worth. And then from there,
not necessarily hearing other people's opinions, but really looking into facts. And that's basically
what I'm trying to share with you through this training. And thanks to the learning that I had through Benjamin Graham, Warren Buffett and
Charlie Munger and also people like Peter Lynch. So with that to wrapping
up the introduction here, and in the next chapter we
will introduce and I'll try to introduce as best as I can to fundamental concepts. And the first one will be about understanding money,
how money works, and also the value
creation cycle in companies and also the
cash circulatory system. So talk to you in
the next lecture. Thank you.
3. Money & cash circulatory system: Welcome back investors. We have finished introduction and we're going now into
Chapter number one, which is really discussing
and trying to define main fundamental concept
that you have to know as an investor in
order to become, let's say, a series
of value investor. So the first concept
or concepts that we will be discussing are in fact, money and the security
system of cash in companies. So when we speak
about money, I mean, the primary function
of money has been, I would say to remove
bartering because I mean, thousands of years ago,
there was no money, so people had to barter
exchange rate, e.g. 12 eggs for I have no
clue, a chicken, e.g. so the intention of
money was really to facilitate the exchange
of goods and services. What you need to
understand on top of this, moving away from bartering,
That's why in fact, money has been created, is that the value of
money changes over time. I'm going to give you a
very concrete example. You have the visual here, which is the visual that is
available on Investopedia. So when you look e.g.
what you would be able in 1970s to buy for $0.25, that same asset you
would bind 2019, how the cost, how much money would be required to
buy the same assets? Let's say rough cuts 50 years, 49 years later on. And let's take the example of a cup of coffee and will not, will not discuss the
Starbucks coffee, latte, macchiato, etc. Just a regular generic
cup of coffee in 1970. So little bit more
than 50 years ago, you would have to spend
like $0.25 US dollar, euro. Let's imagine the currency
is not important here. To buy that cup of coffee. Today, you will probably
spend something close to $1, $601.07 for generic
cup of coffee. And of course it depends
on each country and let's say the purchasing power of the people in that country. So what you can see in fact, is that the, the value of
money has evolved over time. So you need today much
more money equivalent to buy a cup of coffee
as you had in 1970. And this is what is
called inflation. And we are in 2023, we are able to
102031 re-recording this training that has been published for the first
time, August 2020. And we are in a very high
inflation environment and they will not
discuss politics, etc. But what would you
expect when during COVID time and with situation about commodity prices that
have gone through the roof. And there are difficulties to ship things throughout
the world because of whatever geopolitical
tensions that you are in high-inflation
environment. I mean, we didn't not have an
high-inflation environment. I mean, I was ten years old in 1970s when we had
like inflation, high-inflation with like above 678 per cent
of inflation on, let's say, in the
society on the market. So I think that people
are not used to that and do not really understand
what's the reason for that. But I think one of the fundamental things
that you have to understand is why is
inflation in fact happening? And again, without going into now a political
conversation. But if you look at, let's say, important regulators, which
is the US Federal Reserve, but also the European
Central Bank. I mean, part of their
monetary policy are part of the
governance is really trying to have inflation
at a certain level. So I would say that
inflation is okay to have always a little bit of
inflation, but not too much. And that's basically what those
central banks are saying. And their policy target
is really to have inflation at an average
of two per cent. And we are far beyond that 2%. That's why they are
tightening monetary policy. They are increasing
the interest rates really to cool down the economy because money was just too cheap Also
during COVID times, if I look back a
couple of years. But inflation is also
happening because companies feel that
they can pass. Their costs are higher
cost to the end consumers. And so it becomes a
self-fulfilling prophecy. If you're interested. I mean, I've been, it's not part of this course, it's a public video I've
been publishing about, I've been analyzing consumer, this defensive
companies that are, let's say inflation resistant, like the Unilever's, the Danone is a
Procter and Gamble's, et cetera, on my
YouTube channel. And you can see in fact, even during the year 2020, 2023, that in fact they're
good financial performance, in fact comes because
they are parsing costs, higher cost to the end consumers
because they have modes, they have, let's say,
pricing power. They. I mean, if you are used of
shaving with Gillette's, if you're used to
having a shampoo, head and shoulders,
if you are used to by the known yogurt or
milk or water like AVR. If the price goes from $1 or one year or something,
is increased by 7%. You are going to
continue by that water, you're going to
continue to shave. With that. You will
probably not go away from that brands and maybe
put other things aside. That's what consumer
defensive brands that are inflation
resistant actually do. And that's why also
inflation is happening. Because those, Let's say, normal daily goods are
increasing in terms of pricing. And this is actually
what central banks, and let's say the
statistical offices that are looking into that
then say and they claim be attentive because
Gillette Shave has increased by this
amount of present the Avion water bottle has increased by this
amount of percentage. So basically people are losing, let's say purchasing power. So that's what
inflation is about. And one of the tools
that central banks have available is really
reducing the amount of money and tightening
monetary policy by e.g. increasing interest rates. That's why inflation
is happening. When you think about, and
I want you to understand compounding effects that are inflation and not
inflation adjusted. And I think it's important
when we are speaking about the building up wealth. Because today, I mean, the, if you would leave your money, your cash in a bank
savings account. I've taken here the example that the banks have encounters giving you an annual
compound rate of zero dot five per cent. So if you are having this, of course, the amount of, if you're in year
zero, you having $1, the dollar becomes one.01, and then it stagnates. And after ten years, basically you're going to
have increase your wealth by five per cent so that $1
has become $1.00 five. And you can do the math with three per cent
compounded rate, 5%, 7% compound rate. And I give you here
the example of seven per cent compounded. If you're having
a seven per cent compounded year over year. So that $1 after one
year turns to $1, 07 the after to $1.14
than 23, etcetera. And interesting,
after ten years with the 7% annual
compound growth rate, in fact, your dollar
or ten years ago, has become a one dot 97. That's great. You
have just multiplied your wealth by two. And that's in fido
Canada, Russia here. That's my target. I want to double my
wealth every ten years. So it's interesting
to see, I mean, if you put it visually,
how those returns, if it is a bank savings
account at zero dot five per cent evasive three per cent, five per cent, seven per cent return before
inflation and taxes. You see how the
curves in fact go. So obviously, that's normal. It feels simplistic to say, but obviously the
seven per cent is the one that is
growing exponentially. Yes, that's really
the intention. It's really having this
compounding effect, the snowball effect
that increases your wealth in an
exponential way. And of course, I mean having a mean when
we speak about this, we are assuming a buy
and hold strategy. And then if you're getting a seven per cent of
three per cent return, you take that money and you're reinvesting it into the
asset at the same price. That's, let's say the assumption
that we're having here. But what we need
to be attentive is that what happens if there
is inflation out there? And what I'm trying to
share here with you, and this is how I became financially
independent after many years, is that I've always been
thinking that you need to grow, your wealth needs to
grow beyond inflation. Otherwise you will be
destroying wealth. And that's what I'm showing you here when you look
at the red frame. And let's take the example of zero dot five per cent
bank savings account. You would leave your cash
the zero dot 5% compounding. Bank savings account. And GDP inflation would be
at one that five per cent, which by the way, today, I mean, we are far beyond one,
not five per cent. We are maybe add 567 per cent depending on the
country that you're in. You see with the one that 5% GDP inflation that you'd have lost 11% purchasing power
because of inflation. If you would have left
your money in the zero dot 5% bank savings accounts, because that $1 will turn
into one dollars 05 after ten years in the
bank savings account because of the compounding
of the interests. But inflation that
is growing at one, not 5% in average. You will, in fact that $1, you will need ten years later, one dollars 16, to buy the same asset that
you bought ten years ago. And that's why you,
in that scenario, you have been reducing your
purchasing power by 11%. That's basically
destruction of wealth. If you do the same
for three per cent, you see in fact that $1 becomes one dot 34
after ten years. And with a one dot five per cent GDP inflation assumption, you would have added 18%
purchasing power to you, to your wealth or
your family with a five per cent compounded
rate with one node, five per cent GDP inflation you, whether you would have
added 47 per cent. Purchasing power and with a seven per cent compounded with an average one at five per
cent GDP over those ten years, you would have added 81% of purchasing power or
you would have added 81% after inflation or inflation
adjusted to your wealth. I think it's important
to understand that leaving your money in a
bank savings accounts, except if you are waiting to buy an investment
and I'm doing this, I typically have five to 10% of my money, which is unemployed, which is an unemployed
because I'm waiting for markets to go down
to buy companies, great companies at cheap prices. But otherwise 90 to 95% of my, let's say of our family money is invested into the stock
market and only into, we will discuss later
on blue-chip companies, so strong brands or companies
that have modes and trying to get at least six to
7% after taxes every year. And I will explain to you how I'm doing this and I will show my portfolio looks like
and how I'm able to achieve this without
selling those assets. So that's a very
important message. Think about inflation. And if you're unable to get a return that is
higher than inflation, you're actually
destroying wealth. And that's, I think the first
preliminary conclusion that we can already have here
in the very, I mean, it's the third lesson of this training that increasing your wealth means
that first of all, you need to avoid
destroying your wealth. So you need to use, so you require a return on your money that is above
inflation and concern, I mean, I've been discussing this in
webinars as well controller that you need to look at
inflation and average way. So of course, if you are having an investment horizon
of six months, you need to have
like 910 per cent of return to be above
inflation 2020, 2023. But if you consider that
through monetary policy tightening that
central banks wouldn't be able to bring down inflation, which is kind of
what we start to see now as interest
rates are so high, we see the real estate
market that is stagnating. We're seeing people
consuming less. So we see that in fact we have the first indications that inflation is in fact retracting. So if you have an investment
horizon of ten years, you need to think about what is my average rate and
I need to have above my average inflation over this ten year investment horizon in order to build up wealth, not to destroy wealth. So I believe that, I believe that, I mean, I'm an investor and I will share this with you
when I'm valuing companies, strong brands, I'm doing
this on a 30-year horizon. I do believe that the
company will still be around in 30 years and I'm calculating what's the company worth over the next 30 years. And I'm, one of the assumptions, I'm expecting average
inflation over those three years be
somewhere 2-3% because that's the target of
the monetary policy of the US Federal Reserve or
the European Central Bank. So assets first preliminary, a very important
conclusion that you need to understand
when dealing with money is that money needs to give you a written
that is above inflation. Otherwise you are destroying your purchasing power and
you're destroying wealth. And the first definition that we can bring in
already here is that that reads and then it
has to be inflation can also be called
the cost of capital. Your cost of capital. And we will be discussing and discussing electron
because it's extremely, extremely important
to understand concept of cost of capital. So that's the first thing
really trying to understand money and how inflation
can destroy in fact, you're well, and also how
it can throw compounding, how you can become richer and having more purchasing power as the economy is set up
today by having a return, having a cost of capital that is in fact above
inflation on an average. But again, it depends
on investment horizon that you have. The second element I want
to share here with you is this circulatory system
of value creation and of money and of
capital in companies. Because when you speak about
the other value investing, I mean it's an art because
it requires human judgment. And I mean, I coined
the term of investing. What does invest in means so I'm limiting the
definition of investing to non-speculative
and so assets and also tangible companies
with all respect for my cryptocurrency
friends out there. I do believe that investing into cryptocurrency
is speculation. It's not something
where you have tangible underlying assets like an economy when
you would be e.g. buying US dollar currency
or Euro currency. There are real
economies behind this. But again, it's, I mean, I know that some crypto friends
will disagree with this, but that's really my opinion about in investing
into cryptocurrency. I believe that speculation. So when I define investing here is really investing
into companies that have real assets and that is not considered
an act of speculation. That's really my
definition of investing. So when you think about
investing, and I mean, when you look at
the right-hand side and left-hand side of this, I'm basically structuring a balance sheet of
a company here. To make it simple and we will be discussing this later on. I will introduce you
to balance sheets, so to the financial statements, income statement and
cashflow statement. But basically, that was even something that myself
I was missing When I was doing when I was taking financial
courses at high school, at university, I was missing my teachers tell me
in a very simple way, why is the balance sheet
structure like this? So to make it simple, on the right-hand side, you have the capital. Bring us the sources of capital
for a company because we are speaking here about
investing into equity assets, into companies,
into real companies that are having real businesses, real employees, and real
customers, and real suppliers. There are two ways of having capital brought
in into company. You have what I call
the internal capital. Those are the shareholders. Shareholder is bringing company, is bringing money
to the company, is maybe the founder
of the company. And he's bringing in money. Or it also works with tangible
assets, bringing in a car, a laptop, as part of the
starting capital of the company. But the founders of the
company can also go to a bank and raise a bank loan. So lend money from the bank. So burrows or borrow
money from the bank. So that would be
a bank loan, e.g. so landers to company also
considered capital bring ours. But it's very important
and we'll see this later on in the balance
sheet that you have. In fact, the debt holders and the equity holders
of the company, but both are in fact
sources of capital. And what is the
expectation is basically, the expectation is to
take that capital. Typically it will be cached
at the very beginning, at the inception of the
company and use that cash and transform that
cash into assets, into buying a car
or supply chain, offices, retail shop, e.g. goods, those kind of things
relate to start creating value for the shareholders, but also just for the
capital bring us. I mean, of course that told us will have just
the expectation that the depth is paid off
over a certain period of time. But equity holders,
shareholders, are having the expectation
that their wealth will increase at a higher
pace and inflation. And they will be happy how
management runs the company. But I think that's very
important to understand. That's the purpose of investing. And let me try to
depict this and to really split into two steps. So again, having on the right-hand side of
the sources of capital, the capital bring us
if it is debt holders, they're also called
credit or loss. On the bottom shareholders, equity holders and on the left-hand side you have
the assets of the company. That's basically what a
balance sheet is about. The intention is investors are lambdas are giving
cash to the company. Let's keep the asset, bringing in assets into the company if they're
tangible or intangible. Let's leave that aside
for one seconds, but the intention is
bringing in cash. So they are giving
cash to the company, to the company management that is reflected in the middle by the board of directors,
senior management, CEO. And the intention is really that the cash that has
been brought in by the capital
bring else if it is depths creditor loss
and or shareholders, is that that cash is
invested into real assets. As I said, buying a retail shop, buying a truck, buying a car? No. I mean, depending
on the kind of services during
buying supply chain, buying offices, buying laptops. If you're soft
engineered company, investing in that cash
into real assets. But as I said, for the, let's say just for the shareholders or
the credit toddlers, that investment is
carrying implicitly a certain cost of capital,
certain return expectations. And the hope is that that's
the process, the cycle, the step number three is that the operations of the
company with those assets, which came from the cash
that was brought in by the capital sources,
depth dollars, credit told us and
all shareholders that those assets will
generate a profit. That's really the, let's say the circulatory system
of money in accompany. He's also called the, let's say the value creation
cycle in a company. Capitalists brought
in the capsule carries some, let's say, written expectations because of capital expectations that
have to be above inflation. We're not speaking philanthropy
here rarely speaking about zeros and vessels at
one-and-a-half higher returns. That cash is taken by managing transformed into real assets, into tangible or
intangible assets. And then with the hope that
during the first quarter, the first month, the first week, the first year,
that those assets will generate profits.
What happens then? Well, the company has in fact
been company management, depending on what management is allowed to do with or without the consent of the board of directors and the shareholders. The company has in
fact three options. So if the company is generating a profit from those assets, the company has the option
to extend and expand. Its acid-base may be going into new markets, developing
new products. Acquiring a competitor, e.g. I. Will be the flow number four. So the company keeps the money and reinvest
the money into assets. That's what typically
startups too. In fact. If the company is
very much mature, because reinvesting the money, the profits into
the operating cycle also carries some cause of capitalists
unwritten expectations. And of course, if they
cannot be met, well, maybe the company has
better ways of instead of destroying value by reinvesting into things that
do not make sense. Well, maybe they have an
option of paying off debts. So doing, let's say a cash return to
the credit tell us e.g. can be accelerating
paying off the debt. The bank. It can also be providing a
cash return to shareholders. And it can be combination
of the three. And this is what
you're going to see and you're going to see, they're going to be
very concrete examples. We're going to speak
about a lot of companies. In this course. We're gonna speak about
Amazon, Coca-Cola, Microsoft, Mercedes,
Kellogg's, etc. So you're going to see that mature companies that
are already there since many, many years, they in fact very probably there's gonna be
a combination of 45.6. So they are profitable. They reinvest part of the profits that they have
generated into the company. Part of the money will be, in case the company has adapt
will be used to pay off debt or even to accelerate
paying off debt. And then also they want to
have company managing oneself. Happy shareholders are going
to provide a return, eight, a cash return or share buyback return to
the shareholders. And that's what we'll be
discussing 45.6 and how to analyze this because
this will be in fact impacting the way also how
you value the company. But we will be discussing
that later on. But I think this is important
that you understand why inflation can have an impact on your purchasing power
and how money works, and why the value
of money changes over time because of inflation. And why inflation is happening. But also how real investors
are investing into companies. And what is the circa, this value creation cycle that a company is typically half so from the sources of capital, capital being invested
into real assets, and then hopefully those assets
are generating a profit. Then the company has to take a decision between the flows. 45.6. I think that's fundamental, also has an investor that you understand those
principles and I will be kind of forcing if
you allow me to say, to practice your
eye to be able to look into how much money
is accompany re-investing, how much money the company is carrying in depth
and paying off debt and also how much money the company is getting
back to shareholders through various vehicles like cash dividends and
share buybacks. But we will be
speaking about that, of course later on
for the time being, we are really focusing
on that you understand those fundamental
principles that thanks for listening into the first lecture of
this chapter number one, which is money and cash
circulatory system. And in the next one we
will be discussing about risk versus written or
risk versus reward. And continue
hopefully making you aware of fundamental
concepts and principles that you need to
have as a value investor, talk to you in the next lecture. Thank you.
4. Risk vs Return: Welcome back value investors. So in this second lesson
of Chapter number one, after having discussed
fundamental concepts like money inflation, and also the
circulatory system of value creation in companies. We will be discussing
risk versus return and risk versus reward. So maybe just to come
back 1 s. So one of the first preliminary
conclusions that we had in the previous
lesson is that indeed, in order to increase
your wealth, you need to avoid
destroying your wealth. And I brought in the concept of returns that have to be
at least at the level, at the speed of
average inflation depending on the investment
horizon that you're having. And typically for
value investors, We are looking at
investment horizons of 2030 years when we're valuing a company because we expect in the
company is still to be around in the
next 20 to 30 years. And I brought in the fact that if the preliminary
conclusion is that our return expectations
have to be above average inflation depending on our investment horizon timeline. I also mentioned that
we can then call those returns also
our cost of capital. And one thing that is
also fundamental for value investors to understand
is that those returns, that cost of capital has
to be risk-adjusted. And what is the reason why those returns have
to be risk-adjusted? Because basically investors,
they have a dilemma. And I'm really speaking
here about investors. I'm not speaking about here money lenders like banks to
provide loans to companies. I really mean here, people
who invest into assets. So the investor has in fact, many possibilities to
invest his or her money. And this is where the risk
versus reward comes into play. On the right-hand side
on this slide you see, this is just examples where the investor has various
investment vehicles, investment classes that he
or she can invest into e.g. corporate obligation. In that sense, he would be more like
a loan provider. He or she would be more like loan provider where the yield, potential yield is of
eight dot 5% and the risk, and let's just take the
assumption that the risk is 25% of losing the money
bank savings account, that the potential
yield is maybe zero that five per cent on
a bank savings account. And the risk of the bank
going bankrupt is maybe 1%. I will not go into
the conversation of Silicon Valley Bank. Company a. The investor has
the possibility, maybe the founders
of company a have reached out to these
investors saying, well, we will provide
you a 5% annual return. And the investor like is estimating that the risk is
that 30 per cent real estate. You have a lot of people who
invest into real estate, which is less liquid
than equity investments. But I mean, it's not my
investment universe, but there are many successful
people in real estate. Imagine that the
potential yield would be 6% on a yearly basis with
a risk of 35 per cent, just as a theoretical model, then you may have one of the lowest risk vehicles,
which would be e.g. a. Us 30-year Treasury note with the potential yield at 4% and the risk of the US
government going bankrupt. Let's take the assumption
that would be three per cent. So now the investor has money. The investor knows
that very probably a bank savings account will not be able to yield percentage
that is above inflation. So the investor
has then to think, okay, what is my risk
versus return balanced? I mean, if I invest into
a startup and well, probably my yields will be much, much higher, but my risk
will also be higher. So the decision that the
investor has to take real depends on the risk
appetite of the investor, the expected return
of investors. So the expected cost of capital, how liquid are illiquid, those assets are, as
I said, real estate. If you invest into real estate, I mean, those assets, you cannot sell them tomorrow. You will not immediately
find a buyer. You will have one
broker probably, and then a potential buyer. And maybe the whole cycle
will require six months. While if you are investing into a blue-chip company that we
will be discussing later on. Imagine you investing
into Kelloggs, Coca Cola on the
stock market where basically you will find
in the next second, in the next minutes when
the markets are open, you're going to
find as well buyers and sellers of those stocks. So it depends, as I said, on liquidity as well. It depends on the competence. As I said, I'm not a
real estate investor. I said previously
I'm not investing into financial
services industry. I'm not investing into
insurance industry, I'm not investing
into biotech pharma because I don't understand
those businesses. Then the timing of
written what we were discussing, the
investment horizon. Typically, I mean, you may have investors that are looking at a very short investment
horizon of maybe a month, three months, a year. I'm more as very invest and I consider that
value investors, we have more a time horizon
of multiple years because we are having this buy and
hold and reinvest strategy. So as I was discussing
market and I will bring this back to the
risk versus return function. I'm just introducing you also concept that
is important to understand that there are
primary and secondary market. The primary market is basically a market where we are speaking
about venture capitalists, private equity, even startups, where also you have investment
banks that are providing underwriting services to
companies that are going public. So what is called
an initial public offering when it is
with an underwriter. You have seen over
the last couple of years companies that went from private to public through direct
public offerings. So DPOs as is it called. So that's, that's
a primary market. It's of course less liquid
than the secondary market. The secondary
market is basically those stock exchanges that
most of the people know, like the New York Stock
Exchange, London Stock Exchange, the Frankfurt Stock
Exchange in Paris, the Nikkei in Japan. So those are in fact called secondary
markets where in fact, stocks that were held
in private hands have become public and
are considered a secondary market, listed stocks. So that's important
to understand why, because those
secondary market is much more liquid than
the primary market. Because the primary market
is a private market, while the secondary market
is a public market. This, when I bring this back to the risk versus reward function. In fact, you can
see that I tried to split the graph into two. You have on the upper
right-hand side, the primary market where it
starts with business angels. So those people or
friends or family, or even foods that
invest into startups. So the risk that
is extremely high, I mean, we, I mean, if you have looked into survivability
percentages of startups, you may have read that
the survivability of 5-years is five
per cent of startups. But then when they pass those, let's say those milestones, well then typically it
goes into venture capital, you're going to have
a series a series B round of funding. And then when the company is still private but
becomes a mature, we are in the space
of private equity. But in private equity
the risk is still high, not as high as venture
capital business angel, but those are still investments
that are pretty illiquid. So if you want to
sell your investment, you have to find a buyer. And that's something that goes, I mean, it's less obvious. You may have to contract the service with an
investment bank. And the bank please
find me a buyer for the company I own from a
private equity perspective. But you'll see that the
risk is decreasing. And of course, because of that, the returns, you have to risk adjust your returns as well. Then we go into the
secondary market. One companies have
IPOs, are DPO, it's when you have
companies that are around for 30 years and
that are profitable. I mean, the expected returns
are decreasing as well. Why? Because the risk
is decreasing as well. I mean, if you take a
company like Coca-Cola as an example, or
maybe Microsoft, those companies
normally should not and shall not go
bankrupt tomorrow. So this is where also
those companies will adjust the returns they're providing to their shareholders. Because the risk is lower, you have the same
if I'm taking a US, treasury bonds, mean the probability that the US government goes
bankrupt is extremely low. It's not zero, but it is low. Hence, if they're raising
money from lenders, obviously, they're written that they're
gonna provide will be as close as possible
to inflation in fact. And you have, let's
say in the same area of corporate obligations that companies can raise capital. If you remember, companies
can raise capital either through debt
or through equity. If the company goes to
the public market and raises money through a
corporate, corporate obligation. Depending on we will
be discussing that it's wrong on the
rating of the company, on the solvency attributes
of the company. Well, maybe if Coca-Cola is raising or Nestle or Danone
or Procter and Gamble, or raising money through adapt. I mean, the reason that
they have to guarantee to the people that they
get money from, that they borrow the money from will be very low because they can actually negotiate that we will not be bankrupt in
the next ten to 20 years. So the money that you are
lending us is pretty secure, so we will not give you the return expectation
that you have e.g. in the primary market area. So keep this in mind that there is always a function between the investment vehicle
that you investing into its risk and
through that also, the return that you can
expect in a reasonable way. And I was, as I was reading
yesterday evening, actually, I'm reading a book about, let's say investment
and what we should teach people how to invest. Also, the private money
I was reading, in fact, that if you get a return that is guaranteed 80% every
year for decades. The guy was telling in the book that may sound like
a Ponzi scheme. So you maybe take your money and run because that does not exist. And this is where
basically I want to bring you is what can you, as a value investor, realistically expect
on the long-term in terms of average returns, I believe, and I'm going
to show you statistics. I believe that having a six to 7% over 30 years as
average is something, I would say that
it's okay and it's realistic having more than that. And I was giving the example not later than
yesterday evening. I was reading this person
that was mentioning, if you are having somebody
who's promising you 18% year over year for
the next three years. I mean, that does not exist. If you look at
various statistics, I mean, the market. If you are investing
into a market index, you're going to see that
over the last 100 years that the market has been around seven
to eight per cent are six to 8% in average, you're going to have
years that will be bad, but you're going to have
other years that will be higher than this average. But in average, if you
consistently invest your money, you have to expect the six or seven per
cent on the long run. And otherwise, as
I said, I mean, if you're having a
company that grows 30% every year for
the next three years? Well, the probability
is very high that this company will
outgrow the economy, so that does not work. And this is where people, and we will be discussing
Amazon later on. People who have not being, didn't want to believe this when they were
investing into Amazon thinking that's the company
will grow at a rate of 30% or more for
the next 30 years. That doesn't work. And it has shown over
the last year is that indeed there was a correction on the stock price of Amazon, but we will discuss
those things later on. Warren Buffet said the same. So he says basically that the
economy as measured by GDP, so gross domestic product, can be expected to
grow at an annual rate of about three per cent
over the long term. That's of course,
if the inflation is realistic at an average
of two per cent, which is what basically the central banks are
trying to achieve. And of course, if you add to that some kind
of dividend payment, you may expect her to returns
six to seven per cent. But let's go a little bit
deeper where warren Buffett is, how he's making this assumption. So basically if you depict
what he was just quoting, there are three variables in it. So you're saying that
basically the, the, the average written that
you can expect is you take, Let's take the example
of the US economy, the US gross GDP. You subtract from
the US growth gdp, the inflation rate,
and then you add to an average dividend
yields if you do this. And those are really the
latest figures that I, I, I took in fact to make the calculation the
latest you as gross GDP. You see it here on
bullet point number one. You see that obviously there was a high hyperinflation
environment. It is coming back now. The latest figure is
seven no 35% with an inflation rate of 6.04. And if you add to that, an average of the S&P 500
dividend yield of 167%. And you have the URL where you
can look up those figures. Well, basically you have for 2023 and average rate and expectations of around
three per cent basically. So this is basically
what you could expect, an average, of course, when the GDP is growing
at, I have no clue, three-and-a-half percent
and inflation rate as is that e.g. 1%. And you add to that the
average dividend yield, your average return expectations
will be in fact higher. Now of course, this
return, in my opinion, has to be risk-adjusted
in the sense that depending on what kind of investments that you
are investing into, you will add what is called
the risk premium to it. So here, before we having this conversation
about risk premiums, I'm showing you, in fact, what are the approximate
excess returns versus the S&P 500 index? That's very famous investors
like Warren Buffet, Peter Lynch, Charlie Munger hat, those are the bullet
points, 12.3. So what you see
here in the slides, you have the approximate
excess returns versus the S&P 500 index. And you see that
for Warren Buffett, his average return for the last 50 plus years has
been around 12 to 13%, which is extremely goods. Peter Lynch, he was able
to compound at a rate of around 13% for something
like 13 years in a row. And then you have people
like Charlie Munger as well, who was able for all surround 13 years to compound at
a rate of 17 per cent. So those are, I would say, very high performance, very high returns that those
people were able to achieve. But you see that in average, it's not possible and you're going to see
that it's not possible to outperform the SAP for
very, very long periods. And some people say, Well, I'm not a stock picker. I don't want to select the
company I'm investing into. I just want to buy
an S&P 500 index. But consider that a realistic
return is six to 7%, at least on a yearly basis on a long-term investment horizon with dividends re-invest it. Another source just to
make those returns. What is really realistic
returns and not crazy returns. Barclays, you have the URL
here is in fact also bringing out statistics about a
very high diversification, which is basically investing
into funds of funds. And you see that
they are providing a statistic that over
the last 20 years the average return was around 5% when investing
into funds of funds. And do not forget that
investing in investing into funds carries
a cost as well, because you're going to have
some fees that you have to pay to the broker as well
or to the asset manager. Here. It was very, it was a coincidence
a couple of weeks ago, visual capitalist came out with and visual and I've
put you here again, the URL where you
have the best, worst, and average investment
returns for the last century. And I think what is
important is what you see here in the right, on the right-hand side with
the red arrow is that they are stating that while stocks are more
volatile than bonds, they have averaged roughly 7% in inflation adjusted returns. Let's say this is the
last, nearly 94 years. So over the last 100
years, the last century. So that's the kind of return that realistically
you can expect. Of course, you will
have to risk adjusted depending on the type of company
that you investing into. The more riskier the investment, the higher the
written expectations that you have to have
if you're investing into equity and we are in a long time horizon or
the average inflation. I believe that achieving or your cost of capital should
be at least a rough cut, six to seven to eight
per cent maximum. If you're able to do
above that, that's great. You're actually accelerating
the creation of wealth. And do not forget that. I've been discussing this
in the previous lesson, what is called the
power of compounding. So imagine that you are
able to generate 7%, and let's imagine that
those 7% are above average inflation for
the next even ten years, not even thinking are
calculating thirty-years. Remember that having a OneNote, 5% on ten years, we just add 16% to your
purchasing power, to your wealth. If you are able to
compound at an annual rate of 7% over ten years. You see here in fact that you
have doubled your wealth. Here we can have
the conversation, I need potentially to
remove inflation from it. Let's imagine average
inflation is 2%. And as I was showing in
the previous lesson, while still you will be above 80 per cent of value creation. And that's what I'm really
trying to teach you here. But I think the fundamental
message and this lesson is what are, I mean, I understand that there
is relation between the investment vehicle
and the risk that investment vehicle
carries versus the returns that you can expect. That realistic returns on a very long-term
horizon are around 7%. And that's really something
that is very important, do not be because you
will have to come up with a figure when we will be doing the intrinsic valuation
of companies. But what is your
cost of capital? And depending on the type of companies that you're investing like Procter and
Gamble, Unilever, e.g. Kellogg's. Well, there, bringing in a cost of capital of 25 per cent would be foolish, that will not work, not
for mature company. So keep this in mind and keep in mind that the market yields in average every year on the
long-term horizon, around 7%. And when I speak
about the market, I'm really speaking here
about equity investments. So when you are a shareholder, you are buying
stocks of companies. So that's wrapping up here at this second lesson of
Chapter number one. And in the next one we
will be discussing also various investment styles and vehicles and also
classes of shares. So talk to you in the
next lesson. Thank you.
5. Investment styles & classes of shares: Alright, but investors
moving forward, next lesson in chapter
number one where I will be sharing with you and discussing investment
styles, vehicles, and also something
that you need to be attentive as value investor, which are the various classes of shares that you may have to deal with when
investing into company that has more than
one type of share. So the first thing,
let's go into investment stars,
investment techniques. So typically, and
I've tried to make it simple here you have in fact, two big categories of
investment techniques. One being what is called
the fundamental analysis. And this is where
typically It's us in fact as value investors who are part of
fundamental analysis. So the intention is really
to determine the value of the asset that we
are buying it as a business or portion
of the business. And the intention is really to keep having this buy-and-hold
and reinvest strategy. That's really about
fundamental analysis, really understanding
being able to calculate a value and
comparing that value, there's intrinsic value versus what the seller or the market, if it is secondary
market is giving you. The second one is what is
called more technical analysis, is looking at past performance and trying to
determine what will be the future price movements,
volume movements. You're looking at moving
averages, statistics. It's really, I mean, it's, it's called technical
or it's looking at graphs and looking at what the curves that come with a specific stock and really trying to predict
or to determine, being able to look
at patterns and believing that from
past patterns, you can in fact determine what the future price
movements will be in fact. And this is really about
probabilities and statistics. And this is really not
what we as investors do. We are really the
ones that are looking at fundamental
analysis and trying to understand what
is the real value of the asset that
we're trying to buy? An investment styles
you have as well, active or passive management. So active management is like what I tend to do is
select companies. I have my investment universe. I select companies that appear cheap where the
fundamentals are fine, what I liked the business and potentially the
management as well, and the products and services
that they're setting. Passive management
would be more something like you are not
active, you are not, you're potentially even
buying an index and you're just expecting
things to happen, but you're not actively involved
in managing your money. Another big differentiations
between growth and value. So remember in the previous
lecture where I was also showing you the difference between primary and
secondary markets. And typically in the
secondary market, you will also have, let's say, companies that are more considered growth companies that do not pay out
dividends, e.g. to their customers. You may have tech companies like I will take the
example of Spotify. Tech companies are
very often considered growth companies or growth investments, salary
related companies. While e.g. and we will discuss later on
blue-chip companies, but not only
blue-chip companies, but companies or the
armature that are providing a recurring written to their shareholders and more
considered kind of value investing style versus growth, where also the growth
assumptions will be much closer, let's say to the GDP and to
the growth of the economy. In fact, then you have asthma l, small Kevin large-cap companies. I mean, me as a value investor, I do like to invest into omega
kappa large-cap companies. Why I'm able to assess the intrinsic value and
get also passive income, but you have also
even valid invested. I have been very successful in investing into small cabin. We will be discussing
in the next slide what differentiates a conflict
between small-cap, mid-cap, large cap and mega cap in
terms of investment v, because I was already
kind of elaborating about this on the active
or passive management. So you may have people
that invest into stocks. Other people that like to invest into indexes are tracker. So ETF, funds like
vanguards, Blackrock, etc. Other people are
in fact Landers. They lend money to companies, so they invested into
corporate bonds, e.g. or even into their lending
money to governments. So the investing into
governmental bonds, remember the risk versus
reward conversation. You have other investment
vehicles like foreign exchange where you are kind
of speculating about the movements
between e.g. US. Dollar and Euro e.g. you have penny stocks, that's also kind of an
investment vehicles are really sucks that appear
super, super, super cheap. But again, I mean, for me, like penny stocks is not
really an investment. Vehicle, It's more just that the price of a
share is extremely low, but potentially big
movements can have, can generate big capital gains. But for me, I mean, I, I think that people who
invest into penny stocks, they do not understand why they're investing into
penny stocks and what those penny stocks
actually represent and why the price of a
share is so low, then you have
options and futures, which is absolutely
not my style. This is more like again, for me, speculative investment
vehicles and another set of infamy
as a value investor. And it may sound weird, but as I said that I have my investment
universe that we will discuss later on in
the mindset where I do not invest into
financial services, do not invest into insurance, I do not invest into biotech, I do not invest into farmer. I do only invest into stocks and large cap to mega cap stocks
that have strong brands. Where I'm doing the
fundamental analysis. So this is, you see, if I combine those attributes, that's kind of the, let's say define me or what I might
attributes in terms of my investment style is really a fundamental active
management value investing, large cap and mega
cap companies or mega cap companies and only
stocks and nothing else. That's my way of investing. And this is typically also what Warren
Buffett's tends to do, is sometimes buys
companies that are more considered
mid-cap, small-cap. Because he's actually
buying the whole company because Berkshire Hathaway
has a firepower to do so. For me, I do not
have the firepower to buy a full companies. So I will be really
focusing on large cap, mega cap companies with the
attributes I just mentioned. So again, on value investing, as I said, this is a graph that already
brought in the introduction. So remember that the typical
value investor tries to buy companies when they are
typically 25 to 30%, at least below its
intrinsic value. And you are able to calculate
the intrinsic value. And you have also repeatable
investment process. And you will have to wait because the market will
maybe not turn around in a couple of days
and a couple of weeks and couple of
months because maybe you're buying opportunity
is in the middle of a crisis and maybe
it will take a year, 18 months until the economy of the country or the companies
out of the crisis. Until then potentially the
market gets over valid, which is an awesome
opportunity for you to say to make lot of money to monetize
by then selling maybe your assets if they're
overvalued by the market. So in the risk versus reward
function, my typical, or let's say the typical
value investing universe goes from those small cap, large cap public stocks. This is where you will find
the value investing universe. My investment universe is actually not small
cap public stocks, but really large cap, omega cap public stocks. And to understand, and again, not coming back to the
risk versus reward. So you see already
by having that my investment decisions are going to large cap
public stocks. You see that I'm kind
of de-risking my, my money that is being invested. But at the same time, I need to have reasonable
return expectations on when I'd put my money into large and mega cap market cap
company is in fact. So just make it clear as well When we speak in
terms of vocabulary. If it is mega cap, large-cap, mid-cap, small-cap of micro cap. So typically today I've put you the URL of the
FINRA in the US. So omega CAB is
typically companies with a market value is
above 200 billion. Large-cap companies
where the market value is 10 billion to 200 billion. Mid-cap is to bid
into 10 billion and small cap is between
$250 million or euros and 2 billion of market capitalization or market valuation micro
cap is below 250. How do you calculate
the market cap? Actually, it's very easy to take the current share price and you multiply it by the number
of outstanding shares. So it's as easy as that you see. In fact, I mean, there's
not necessarily the latest because they are
market fluctuations. But when I prepared
this training, you can see on the right-hand
side that when you look at who are the
mega cap companies, they are not 1,000
mega cap companies. They're like, like 30
mega cap companies. There may be 1,000
large-cap companies. They are like 2,500 mid-cap companies and
small cap, they are much, much more so let's say something above 6,000 small cap companies. So of course, becoming
a mega cap is not something that
happens overnight. So this takes a lot of time, a lot of profits, a lot of, let's say, public
attention as well. You typically will find in those mega cap
companies, the Amazons, you will find the Microsofts, the Googles or alphabet, as we should call them meat
as the former Facebook. Those are the apple as well. Those are the companies that you will find in the mega cap. And large cap. Of course you will find
other companies like, I don't know, like
Kellogg's, e.g. if I remember, well, not considered the mega cap, but more a large cap
company, Unilever, Procter and Gamble,
I would need to calculate the latest
market capitalisation. Most probably they
are somewhere between large cap and mega cap
companies as well. So something I said in the introduction that is important. So you see where at least what I'm trying
to share with you that where I fit in the risk versus return function is like investing into large
and mega cap companies. So I have a, let's say I have
some expectations that are risk-adjusted. I'm doing fundamental analysis and ammonia investing
into stocks. So how can I earn money? How can I monetize
and my investments? And I have two ways and I
want to share with you. The first one, which is
the most common one, is that people buy companies hopefully at a cheap price and they will be re-selling
their shares, their stocks when the
market has gone up. This is what is
called capital gains. It's actually the second
bullet point here, and that's something
that is common in growth stocks in startups, in private equity, you
buy something and you hope and you expect that
the price will grow a lot. And then I sort my time,
you will have to take the decision of
selling the stock. Otherwise you will not be
able to make money out of it. Otherwise, it will remain
potential monetization. But it will only
materialized only happen when you sell the stocks. The second one, which I believe
is extremely powerful and has helped me become financially and
intellectually independent, is really earning
returns, passive income, earning dividends on
the company profits. And I was giving the example, I think also in the
very introduction that two ways for
me of making money. The first one is, of course, buying a company at a cheap price because
the market is depressed. Maybe the analysts are
depressed about the company, but the company has solid
financial fundamentals. And I'm hoping to buy the company with
a margin of safety, maybe 25 to 30% below
its intrinsic value. And then I will
have to be patient. I will have maybe a year or
two years, maybe three years. I have currently
one holding which is Telefonica that
I'm having for more than six years where I'm still below my purchase
price and that happens. But how can I cover those risks and those
potential losses as well? And how Will I be
rewarded for my patients? In fact, is by earning
dividends on it. And e.g. Telefonica is giving
me every year around, at the moment I bought
around 7% of cash dividends. So I'm actually compounding
and I do not need to sell my stocks of Telefonica
because I'm getting these 7% remuneration
every year. And this consider
being passive income. And of course, this is
protecting me if you're having 7% every year and you're
compounding this, having this buy and hold and reinvest strategy and
you're doing this now. I think my holding periods for telephonic has more
than six years. And I'm still like, I think 12, 13% below what the market is telling versus
intrinsic value. I need to be patient and let's say the share
price has gone up. But while I have to be patient, I want the company that I've put my money into to reward
me for my patients. And this is where I want to
have as a second return, passive income, as
long as the market is not overvaluing the
stocks that I bought. That's an example
for Telefonica. And this is a very strong fundamental different
versus growth investors and growth stocks because when you are investing
into Spotify, spotify is not paying out
cash dividends today. They may in the future. Apple, I think they pay out
a very small dividends. But still a lot of people consider Apple being
a growth stock. And the dividend is
actually below inflation. So you're actually
destroying, well, if you remember what I told you, but growths that do not
even pay out dividends. Well, the only way
for you to grow your wealth is
selling of the stock. So having this capital gain
when you sell the stock, otherwise, you will
not grow your wealth. It will remain theoretical because until you haven't
sold your stocks, you will not see your
bank account growing. In fact, you will not cash in, in fact that capital gains. So that's really something
that really makes a difference between a growth investor
and a value investor. Typically value investors,
warren Buffett is doing this. I mean, he has
found with million, if I take the example
of Coca-Cola, he has founded million of
shares of Coca-Cola and Coca-Cola is paying out very
nice dividend every year. And I even think that
they are growing the dividend and we will
discuss dividend aristocrats, dividend Kings later on. So think about the two levers, how to make money as
a value investor, it's about the capital gain. So you're buying the
company cheap 25 to 30%, and you hope that the market will add a certain
amount of time, overvalue the company maybe 15, 20, 50% over its
intrinsic value. Then maybe you will
say the market is so crazy I going
to sell now and I will wait until the
market is correcting back to the intrinsic
value of the company. But the second way of making money is really earning that
passive income that really makes a difference with growth investors to
people that invest into growth stocks that do not provide a recurring
returned to shareholders, right? So when we speak about stocks, I think there is
something fundamental that also that you
need to know in the fundamental concepts and principles for you
as a value investor, which are the companies have
various types of stocks. And I'm going to
show this to you. Sorry, I'm going to show this
to you in the next slides. We're going to speak about
Rushmore, Google and Alphabet. And I will show you
an BMW as well that those companies need to have
various types of stocks. So the most common way of buying stock or buying into a company is that the company has only one class of stock, which will be called
the common stock. This is the case for, let's say, 80% of the companies, but you have companies that have two or three
types of stocks. And I'm going to
show this to you in the upcoming minutes with
some concrete examples. What happens very often is that companies have two
types of stocks, common stock and
preferred stock, or class a and class B stock. Why are they making
a difference? Because maybe the owners of common stock are
having voting rights. They gain share of the
profits of the company. But maybe the company says Yeah, but I mean, if
they're telling me, I mean candy young
minority shareholder mean you own zero.000, 1% of my company. Let's imagine it's
BMW or Mercedes. I mean, I'm willing to give you a little bit more
dividends on it, but I'm removing from
you the voting rights. And in case we don't have enough money
and in case there are, nonetheless dividends paid out. Preferred stock owners will get dividend before
common stock owners. Or how do you feel about that? And I may say,
Well, in any case, I will not vote
and I'm willing to give away my voting
rights in order to get a preferential priority on dividend payouts versus
common stock owners. So yeah, I'll buy a preferred stock because you're offering me
the opportunity. But not all companies
have those two types, are two classes of stocks. And I will give you
a concrete examples in the upcoming minutes. I think it's already
in the next slide. Then also a concept
that you need to understand when we speak about the number of
outstanding shares. So that's the number of
shares that you can actually, that have been printed
by the company. This is not just
for common stock, but you may have
companies that have two or three classes
of stocks and they do have a certain
amount of shares outstanding in common stock and preferred stock and even
another type of stock, e.g. which would be called
maybe management stock. So you need to understand
the difference between basic number of shares outstanding in diluted number
of shares outstanding. Why is this important? Because you will see later
on when we're going to be practicing the calculation of the intrinsic value
of the company. We will need this number
to estimate a share price, intrinsic value per share. Which finger will take? I will take the
biggest one which is diluted one why they dilute it? Because the diluted ads, e.g. warrants options that
are given away, e.g. as employee remuneration to
the employees of the company. So imagine very
simple example that the company has 100,000
shares of common stock, but has promised to print 10,000 shares through stock options
that will vest over, let's say five years. While here, in fact, when you need to calculate
the intrinsic value, need to take into account
that the total amount of shares is maybe today
100, thousands. But as you're making
a projection, your investment horizon may
be 2030 years in the future. You need, you need to take into account those
dilution effects. So you're going to
then divide, in fact, the valuation of the company by the 110,000 shares and neutrons, the 100,000 chests you're
going to take, let's say, a bigger number that
you will divide, which then actually brings
down the intrinsic value. Of course, it's a little
bit more defensive approach to it because those
shares will be printed. It's true that in
growth companies, a big portion of employee
remuneration for growth companies comes from
those warrants and options. Because the company
has maybe less money. They want to preserve the
cash to grow them markets, grow their customer base. So they, they are promising to the employees the
printing of new shares. So you need to take
this dilution into effect as well, right? Last but not least, and
I've seen this I mean, the webinars that I was holding, but I was talking
to a lot of people. One thing that you need
to be attentive is that when you buy a company, you are saying, I want to buy a share of Procter and Gamble. Not only do you
need to understand, if the company has one class
of many class of shares, we're going to see this
in a couple of seconds. But also every share has
a unique identifier. Outside of the US, it's
called the icing is the international securities
identification number. So if you are buying
a common stock, let's imagine a common
stock of Kellogg's. That common stock
of Kellogg's has an eyes in number
and that number, you can find it on the
website of Kellogg's and you can find it also
with your broker. But you need to be
attentive if a company has two or three
types of stocks. Let's imagine that the
company will discuss Google. Google has three
types of classes, two of classes of shares. Two of them are listed that you want to
buy the right one, the one that you have picked. So they need to be
attentive to choose the right ice in number. Google will have QCIF numbers. So because they are
listed in the US, so QCIF number is in
fact the Committee on uniform security
identification procedures. So in the US, the
icing is called QC. They're not called ice
in, in the US, just, just something that you need to know and that's something
that is linked to, let's say, every country has their specific
numbering system. At an international level, most of the companies that
are listed on the stock X, on the secondary market,
on public stock markets, they have an IC number. It shows them to
you as it's called the Q SIP number
just in case you are looking at the
broker and the you will, you will find the
term QC bar eyes and let you know what it means. So concrete examples, BMW, BMW has in fact two
types of shares. They have ordinary share and
they have a preferred share. And you see that both shares
have different numbers. So DE is for Dodge Neon,
That's what Germany. Then you see in fact that
the ordinary share has. I mean it's ending with 03 and the preferred term
is ending with 37. You see this here on the slides. And why? What is the difference
between the two? Well, basically,
the preferred share has a higher dividends
versus the ordinary share. Why? Because BMW is removing the voting rights on the
preferred Shad owners. That's the reason
so they're giving a small incentive
to say, I mean, I understand that you want
to be shelled of BMW, but you will probably not
exercise you're voting rights. That's why we have created
this preferred share or type of class, or type of shares
or class of shares. So preferred shared,
class of BMW. And with that, we're giving you a little bit higher dividends
versus the ordinary shares. So that's basically
you could quantify That's the right to vote, that they're giving
us an incentive to the preferred shareholders
where they are in fact removing
the voting rights. They are not the only ones. Let's look at Alphabet, US company you probably know, was always called Google, but now they have, let's say, a, re-branded themselves
into alphabets in the couple of
years because they having those beyond the typical traditional
core business of Google, they have other, what they
call also moonshot projects. And in fact, alphabets. When I will share with you where to find
that information, where will it be discussing? Ten K, ten q reports. But in the quarterly report, in the first page of alphabets, you in fact see that
the company has to, let's say, classes of
shares that are traded. One which is called a Class, a bullet point number one
class a common stock, where the ticker, so the trading symbol is Google
without an e at the ends. And then they have a class C, which is called capital stock, where the trading
symbol is Google. So in fact, you can buy both stocks on the New
York Stock Exchange, e.g. what are the differences
between the two? And this of course, requires
a little bit more practice, is going into the
financial statements, are going into the
investor relations site of Google or Alphabet
and then fake, you would figure out
that the company has, I mean, when I was
preparing this, this is probably
the end of 2022, latest quarterly
reports to remember, but just to give you a sense, when I extracted this. So at that time, alpha-beta heads around
5 billion of shares, nearly 6 billion
of Class a shares, 884 Class B shares that
are not freely tradable. Those are shares that are for the founders, for
senior managers. And Class C shares they
had also around 6 billion. So if you look at the
proportion of both, you see that there are around, let's say 13 billion
of shares out there. What is interesting
is that the Class C capital stock share with the trading symbol
or the ticker GOOG. Has in fact zero voting rights. And this is explains when you read even proxy
statements you read, you go into the investor
relations site and you read what the class C stock is about. You're going to see in fact
that alphabet class each has, don't have voting rights. They have, they do
have voting rights and one share is equivalent
to one vote, if I remember well, but what is interesting is that the Class B shares
that you and I cannot buy because they are not publicly traded and
not publicly listed. They have in fact, one class B share has, if I remember, well,
ten voting rights. So the proportion or the
power of votes is ten times higher between the class
B that you cannot buy an icon on by vs
class Asia as well. Class each has have
zero voting rights. So this is where you, first of all need to know this. I think it's interesting
to know that Google has three types of shares. And what kind of share would
you like to buy clubs? Misha is not an option for you. Class C may be an option for you that could be considered
like a preferred stock. And class a could also
be an option for you. But if you want to buy class a, you need to buy the right ticker and the right Q SIP number, while Class C has
different ticker has different QCIF numbers. Why? Because the US listed one thing and that's not now unnecessary part of
the conversation. But when we look also
at why they did this, you see from the percentage of voting rights and on Google. In fact, Management and the founders have more than
50 per cent voting rights. So even if you would be owning
all the Class a shares, you will still be considered
a minority shareholders. That tells you
something about how the founders and
the people who own the Class B shares
that you cannot buy, that I cannot buy. How they think about strategic
matters where the votes, the majority vote of the
shareholders is required. Where clause a
shareholders are in fact told you own 40% of
the voting rights, but you don't own more than 50%. So just think about what that means when you are on alphabets. Class a shallow e.g. last example is Rushmore. I hadn't reached my invading my portfolio couple
of years ago. I think I bought it
like 57 and solid 93 or 95 plus dividends. Today even think it
was at 100, 20:00 A.M. I unhappy about it. I'm not unhappy about it. I multiplied within I think
around 12, 18 months, I multiply it, my
investment enrichment by two plus they added
dividends to it. So I was very happy about
the performance of it. And really small has in fact, two classes of shares. They have Class a shares, which represent more
than 90% of the equity. They have Class B shares. And the Class B shares
are in fact the ones that are owned by the family. So Rushmore is the remember the name of the
family if it is Murdoch. I may be wrong about it, but there is in fact a root
port families are not, Murdoch is robot family. It's a South African family, if I'm not mistaken, and they do own 50%
of the voting rights, and they own less than 10%
of the shares of the class. That represents the
Class B shares in fact, and that's those Class B
shares are not listed. You cannot buy
them. They're only how health by the robot family. In fact, while Class a, they are freely tradable, but they only represent
50% of the voting rights. So again, you see here
concrete example. More has two types of classes. You will only find one
icing ticker or eyes in number re to the class Asia's because the Class B
shares you cannot buy them. So just be attentive
wrapping up here this third lesson in
chapter number one. So just be attentive that not only you have different
investment styles. And as I told you, what were my, what are my
investment attributes? So it's fundamental analysis,
it's not technical. It's large mega
cap companies with strong brands only
buying stocks. So that's really my
investment universe. And with that, I am active manager and I do
value investing as why? As I said, I tried to determine and calculate
the intrinsic value of a company through
others methods that we will share with you
through this training. And, and of course, I need also to be attentive
when I decide to bind to a company is I want to know if the company has only
one class of shares that I buy the right class of shares
and not the wrong one. And that's really a
mistake that people when they have
never invested into the stock market,
they tend to do so. That's why I'm sharing
this with you. Be, be curious about if the company has only one
class of shares or more. And what are the
attributes of each class of share in terms of specifically speaking
about dividends. I think that voting rights
for all of us probably, I mean, we're small investors. The voting rights are probably
less important matter, but very probably what is
more important is really which class of shares carries dividends if the company has more than one
class of Shabbat. Remember like 80%
of the company's only have one class of shares, which would be called the
common stock in fact. Alright, let's wrap up here this lesson
and in the next one we will go into now what
Warren Buffett said. You need to understand
a little bit of accounting to be good
value investors. So we will walk you through
the main things to know as a value investor related to financial reports and
financial statements. So talk to you in
the next lecture. Thank you.
6. Balance sheet, income statement & cash flow statement: Alright, welcome back. In this lecture is still
in Chapter number one. So I'm doing my best
to share with you a fundamental concepts that you need to know as a
value investor. The one on the
fundamental concepts, the concepts that
you need to know as Warren Buffet wants
it is you need to understand a minimum of
accounting and I will call it go even a little bit beyond
is like corporate finance. And in that context, and you will see, I mean, at the very end
of this training, we're going to do
valuations based on an actual file that comes as a companion sheet
with this course. There are a couple
of, let's say, financial reports that you need to be able to
navigate through. And I believe that
not enough people do look into financial reports of the companies that
they investing into. And I believe that's really
what makes up the system. Anytime the difference
between people who speculate and people who
are serious investors, they read the financial
reports of the company, at least they extract the most important elements
of those financial reports. So in this lecture, we will
be discussing in value three main financial reports, which are the balance
sheet, the income statement, the
cashflow statement. So first things first, let's come back
to something that we discuss a couple
of lectures ago, which is this value
creation cycle. So from the moment you have
on the right-hand side, which is basically
like a balance sheet, the sources of
capital which either the depth total loss
or the equity holders. They bring in cash, they bring in capital that capitalists transformed
by Management, by the Board of
Directors into assets, and those assets hopefully
generate a profit. Then if there are profits
generated by the company, by the operational assets of
the company, the management, and the board of directors
and the shareholders, depending on the type of
decision and the type of, let's say, events are decisions that have to be taken depending on how
strategic they are. It's the management who
is allowed to do this, is potentially the board of directors is
allowed to do it, or potentially it requires a shareholder majority vote to take maybe very
important decisions. So, but if profits
are generated, the company has three options. So let's say company management has typically three options. The first option is reinvesting the profits into the company
to grow the customer base, develop new products,
new services. Let's say attach new markets. New segments, potentially increase the
salaries of the people as well. So that's basically cash
reinvest into the company. The flow number five is, as re-discuss is
cash that is written to the credit TO loss of the
company handled bank loan, maybe they start to accelerate
paying off that dept. And the six flow
that you see here, what we already
discussed is in fact that cash is returned
to the shareholders, maybe another form of cash, dividends or share buybacks, what we will discuss later on. So if profits are generated, the company has in
fact three options to do reinvesting,
paying off debts. And it's giving a
return to shareholders. But in order to do that anymore, when I was introducing this, I just told you I going
to tell you and teach you hopefully how to find out how much is
going into the flow. Number four, how much
is going to for number five and how much is
going to flow number six, in order to do that, you
don't have the choice. And sorry for that if you
hate financial reports, but you will have to have a look at the financial
report of the company. And most specifically at one, or let's say the three main
financial statement types. That's any company or any
company in the world carry, which are the balance sheet, the income statement, and
the cash flow statement. So the purpose of this
course is really not, not to go deep into reading
financial statements. I have another course
that is called the other reading
financial statements. For the time being,
the level one is out, which is a practitioner level. But here's really giving you the minimum thing
that you need to know about accounting
and understanding financial reports
that you can extract. The elements, the figures
that you will use in fact, and that you will
use afters when you become independent
from me on doing the intrinsic valuation or the intrinsic value calculation of the company that you're thinking about to invest into the first and that's
the most important on, and by the way, in
the other training, the other reading
financial statements, I mentioned that most
of the people who when they are interested
in the company financials, they start by reading the income statement
and I don't do that. I start actually by
reading the balance sheet. Why? Because the balance
sheet, what is specific to the balance sheet. It shows in fact, the accumulation of wealth of the company since inception. So on the right-hand side, on the balance sheet is what
is called the liabilities. You're going to see all the sources of capital if
it is adept toddlers or equity holders. And on the left-hand side, how money, how the captain
has been employed. So on the left-hand
side you will see all the assets of the company. And when you look at
the balance sheet at any moment in time, if I look at the balance sheet of Kellogg's from yesterday, it's valid because it's telling me what were the sources
of capital since day one and what
are the assets that the company owns since
day one as well? That's why I always start reading the balance sheet when I have to
analyze companies. By the way, I will not
go into the details of IFRS versus US GAAP, but there are various at same standards on how to
do financial reports. We're going to practice your
eye on IFRS and US GAAP. Us GAAP is the US
generate accounting, accepted accounting
principles and IFRS, international Financial
Reporting Standards. So nearly all the countries
in the world do use IFRS. But you ask gap is of
course used in the US, they do not follow IFRS
even though now there is a tendency to converge
between the two standards. But you only have like ten
countries in the world that do not use IFRS and
US is one of those. So you need to know the
difference between US, GAAP and IFRS at least
have heard what? That both, let's say
standards exist in IFRS. You will see in the
financial reports, you're going to see this
in the Mercedes example. I'm going to show you
in a couple of slides. That's, the balance sheet is
not called balance sheet. It's called the statement
of financial position. That's IFRS terminology, right? Then you have two other very important financial
statement types, which is, which are the income or earnings statements and also
the cashflow statements. What is really important here to understand is the following. Is that an income statement and cashflow statement you
are looking in fact at it is the earnings
or the cash flows over a period of time and
it can be three days, eight days a month. Typically it will be a
quarter or a semester, so six months or it will be annual income statement,
annual cashflow statement. That's something that a lot of people who do not understand. That's the main difference
between the balance sheet and the income and cash flow
statement is that you're looking for the income
and cash received and the reporting period can be the last quarter and you're
comparing the last quarter, let's imagine it's 12023, you're comparing
it with Q1, 2022. The balance sheet, you
don't have that comparison. The balance sheet shows
at any moment in time, the stock of words, the accumulation of
wealth since day one. In fact, there are differences between income and cash
flow is that in income, you may have e.g. invoices are sent out to
cosmos but are not paid yet. So the income statement
can show things that have not been converted
into cash yet. It's the same in
terms of expenses. Maybe the company is already, let's say declaring
the tax expense that tax authorities
will come in the future, but the cash out of the tech expense has
not happened yet. Let me stop here for
1 s The conversation or the differences
between income and cash flow statements. But it's important
here to understand is the difference between
the balance sheet and the other two 1's
balance sheet is you always look at the accumulation
of wealth since day one. That's why I always start
reading the situation of companies by analyzing the balance sheet
and not the income, say what most of the
people are in fact doing. So here you have the
example of Mercedes. So I've extracted
from the report, I think was it 2000,
20,020 reports? It was published thousand 21. Why you see the three main, let's say financial
statement reports we have on the left-hand side on the bullet point number one,
that's the balance sheet. It's called consolidated
similar financial position, bullet
point number two. It's the income statement
consolidated to include all the subsidiaries that are Owens majority
owned by Mercedes. Then you have on
the right-hand side on the bullet point
number three, you have the consolidated
statement of cashflows. So it's basically the
cashflow statements. This one is an IFRS company. Germany follows IFRS standards. So that's why you don't
see the balance sheet appearing on the button. Instead you see the statement of financial position appearing. Kellogg's, they do
follow US GAAP, it's a US listed company. So here you see Bullet
point number one, the consolidated balance sheet, bullet point number
two, the consolidated statement of income,
that's income statement. Then on the right-hand side, bullet point number
three, the consolidated statement of cashflows. And you see, I mean,
it may appear complex, but there are many
lines in there. And I will try to really,
in this training, the other value investing
related to, let say, point you to the most important elements
that you need to know. Alright? One of the most
important elements that you need to know in order to do the
valuation of a company, the intrinsic valuation of a company is really,
if you remember, what I was showing here
already a couple of times, is understanding first of all, what is the amount of profits
that the company is doing? So that's the famous flow number three out of the
assets of the company. And then indeed,
understanding how much is flowing back
into the company. That's flow number
four, how much is flowing back to pay off debt? That's for number five. And how much is flowing
back to the shareholders. That's flown number six. So those are four extremely important
elements that not a lot of people practice enough on going into financial reports, taking those three
financial statements, the balance sheet, the income statement, the
cashflow statement, and try to understand how much profit the
company has generated, how much cash is reinvested
into the company, how much cash is
returned to creditors, and how much cash is
returned to shareholders. This is what I'm showing below. The bullet point or
the flow number three. There are two ways
of looking at it. You can look at cash elements that will be called the
operating cash flow. How much cash has been generated from the operational
assets of the company. We can also look at it from
an income perspective now, and I will explain this in the upcoming slides why there's different sometimes between
income and the cashflow. For the flows 45.6, that will be number
four will be called. And you're going to see
this when I will walk you through the cashflow
statement because you're going to see at
the cashflow statement has three chapters. The three sections will
be the operating section, the investing section, and
the financing section. So basically number three, that's the operating section
in the cashflow statement. Hello, number four, That's the investing section in
the cashflow flows 5.6, that will be the
financing cashflow or the financing section in
the cashflow statement. And again, I really want
you to practice your, I take maybe companies
that you like, go into those companies
and really try to see if you see this in
the cashflow statement. Alright, so when we speak
about profitability, there are two ways of
looking at profitability. I mean, the typical one is
looking, well, first of all, is understanding
how much revenue, how much economic activity
the company has generated. We are not speaking yet
about profitability. I want to speak about
economic activity is really how much business the company has generated
from its assets. It's also sometimes called
the top line because it's the first line in
the income statement. And sometimes you hear so the vocabulary or the
lingo of operating income, That's the activity
that is generated by the operating assets
of a business. Very often you will
see also when you look at the financial
statements of the company, specifically the
income statement, you're going to see that
there are some notes that come with the
income statement where in fact the
company is getting more information about e.g. customer segments. Customer segments
sometimes can also be called consumer
direct e-commerce. You will see as well sometimes the terms appearing
like geographies. So the revenues will be
splitted by North America, Latin America, Asia, Pacific,
Europe, Africa, e.g. sometimes also, the revenues in the income statement will
be splitted by big product, family or product category. Can we e.g. devices, mobile phone services,
subscriptions, e.g. so again, I mean, if you have
a company that you like, please download one of the latest reports of the company that you
like and try to get yourself knowledgeable and
get yourself fluent on how to understand and how
to read already the revenues from where are the revenues in
fact, coming from? Here, I'm giving you
two concrete examples with Mercedes and Kellogg's. So you see here,
I'm just looking at the income statement here. So we see that for
the year 2020. So this is a full year report for both companies
and Mercedes follows IFRS Accounting
Reporting Standards and Kellogg's follows US GAAP accounting and
reporting standards. So you see that on a
bullet point, number one, Mercedes in 2020 has generated
€154 billion of revenues, while Kellogg's has
generated a 13, a $7 billion of revenues. You see that indeed, just from an economic
activity perspective, Mercedes is ten times, a
little bit more than ten, but let's consider it as like 1011 times the
size of Kellogg's. Here I just speaking
about revenue, gross income as it is called, as well as just the
business activity. Of course, what
we're interested in is the profitability
of the company. And this will be essential as
well afterwards to be able to understand and to calculate the intrinsic
value of a company. So here, extending and look now at the bullet points number two from our citizen
for Kellogg's, you see that on €154
billion of revenue, Mercedes has generated rough
cut 4 billion of profits. And in fact, if I would need
to be precise, it's 36. I don't want to go into
now accounting details. That's not the purpose. But normally you should hear there's one thing that
is very specific. Mercedes, you see below
the 4 billion 00.9, you'll see 382 million of profits that are attributable to non-controlling interests. This happens for some
companies and I will just quickly elaborate what
non-controlling interests are. Those are shareholders that
own a portion of Mercedes. Imagine that Mercedes has a
subsidiary and I don't know, in Eastern Europe, but
they'd only own 8080, 85% of that subsidiary. The 15% are called
non-controlling interests. But if Mercedes is consolidating that subsidiary into
the income statement. We'll consolidate it 100%. That's accounting rules will
not go into the details of how consolidation
works for that, if you're really
interested, go into the art of reading financial
statements course. But the profits that, that Eastern Europe
subsidiary of Mercedes wouldn't have generated
15% of those profits. They do not belong to Mercedes and this is what is called
non-controlling interests. Hence, here you see
that out of the 4 billion zero-zero
€9 of profits, in fact, nearly ten per cent go to non Mercedes shareholder. So they give, they need
to give this money back to those non
merciless shareholders. It means that here, the real profit of Mercedes for the remaining shareholders is 3,000,000,627 of euros. For Kellogg's is easier. Well, they have a
very small portion you see above the bullet
point number two. So in fact, they say that the net income is
$1,000,264,000. They have 13 million
of, let's say, profits that go to non Kellogg's
shareholders because they potentially
owned subsidiaries that they do not own 100%. So the correct figure
for you as a shadow that you need to take
is 1,000,000,251, which is the smaller number. In fact, you will, you will see this in
big multinationals. This will happen a
lot that you will have this non-controlling
interests line that appears so always
take the number after the non-controlling
interests line. So the smaller 11
important thing. I mean, I was when
we were discussing the flows 345.6,
if you remember, was mentioning that the
flow number three in fact, can be either the net income attributable to the
shareholders of the company. And sometimes it can
be interpreted as what remains in terms of
cashflow, of profitability. And this is where we need to understand the
differences between income and cash flow without
going to the detail set. It's not an accounting course. But in fact, there are two
different accounting concepts, as I was saying
earlier on as good. Now I will explain this
through the following example. When imagine that you are a services company
that you have, let's say provided
your services, imagine it's consulting
to your customer. The customer agrees to the final delivery
of a report, e.g. you will be sending out an
invoice to that customer. So that's income, that's revenue From the
moment on that to generate the invoice you can actually record will not
go into the details, but I'll make it simple here. From the moment that you have delivered
your final report, you can record that's the amount of services as revenue in your
income statements. But what happens is
that the customer has maybe 30 days or 60 days
to pay that invoice. So there is a timing difference between the moment that
you sent out the invoice where you are allowed
by accounting rules to records and to
show that you have generated this
economic activity. But in the cashflow statement, the customer will
not appear in fact, in terms of a cash inflow because the customer
has not paid, maybe let's say 47 days later on the customer pays
the initial invoice. They are in fact income and
cash flow they reconciled, they correlate together
and the amount of income is the same as the amount of cash inflows
from customers, right? So at the very end of the day, except if the company is trying to manipulate the earnings, cash flow or cash inflows
related to revenue and earnings that have been
recorded always converge. Otherwise somebody is
manipulating the figures, right? I think that's a very,
very important statements. And by the way, having looked at big differences
between income and cash flow, that potentially is
a red flag for me. I'm trying to understand why
is there so much income? And at the very end of the day, net income profitability
while the cashflow is crap, specifically the
operating cash flow. And again, we'll come
back to that later on. I'm only saying that comparing the income, the net income, with the operating cashflow is giving you some
kind of sense. If the company is how
the company manages the money and what I call the
CEO and board stewardship. Of course, remember, we
will discuss that later on, that in the income
statement you will have non-cash items like depreciation and then we'll explain this
in the upcoming slides. But at the very end of the day, cash flows if the outflows and inflows have to converge
with the income statement. Otherwise, somebody is
manipulating the figures. Alright, give a
concrete example also where depreciation plays
an important role. And I take the
following example. Let's imagine that. Your company? Our company is
limousine service, right? So the the core activity
of the company is taking a customer from point a to point B with a luxury limousine. I've taken here the example
of a Mercedes limousines, I think it's an S
class, doesn't matter. So the company has, I mean, let's imagine that I have received cash from
the shareholders. The company has options. First of all, they can
decide to rent the car. Renting the car means that the car is not owned
by the company. It's in reality, not an
asset of the company. And we'll be paying
on a monthly basis, a rental fee to their
renting company. And in the hope that
that asset that is not owned by the
company is generating, in fact, revenues with a
margin with profits on it. That's basically what you
see on the top visual, which is a car renting thing. You see in fact, the blue, Let's say the blue
color histograms, That's really the revenue part that may fluctuate
depending on how often the car is servicing
customers during the month. Let's imagine this
was during the year. Let's take this
as an assumption. And then the other
one will be the cost in the cash flow statement
and the income statement. If you are renting the car, you will not see any
difference because you will be paying out every
month an invoice, you will be cashing
out an amount of money to the rental company
and then income statement, you will see an operational
expense as well. So there will be no
difference between the moments that
there is an let's say that you are
recording an expense in the income statement versus the moment that you are paying the invoice of the
rental company. And here we're looking
at five years. Let's take this
as a time horizon on the example I'm
showing you here. Now the company has also
the option with the capital received by the
shareholders and maybe buy through a bank loan, purchase the asset,
which is basically purchasing the asset
class of Mercedes. This is important to understand
that there's gonna be a timing difference between
what you will see in the cashflow statement versus
the income statements. Let me explain it. This is what you see on
the bottom part and the bottom visual that is
called car purchase. So if the company decides to buy the assets and you're buying
the asset from a car dealer, you will have to pay the
car dealer immediately. Let's imagine it's
$100,000 to be, to become owner of
this asset class. This cash out is
happening in year one, actually the beginning
of year one. But how is this reflected
in the income statement? The income statement you
have for what is called fixed assets or long-term
tangible assets. You have also, for tax reasons, the possibility to do a
depreciation mechanisms. So depreciation mechanism
is that in order to reflect more accurately
the economic activity, which is what the
income statement is showing to reflect it in a more accurate way versus
the cashflow statement. Accounting standards
allow you to show the cost of depreciation of the asset class over
its five-year periods. And let me explain. So if you have a car
that had a cost of $100,000 and you believe that you will be able to use
that car for five years. You will, in fact, through
accounting mechanisms, reduce the value of the remaining value of that
asset by a fifth every year. So after you won your car, your assets has a value. Knew it was 100 thousands
after one year, it's 80,000 after year two, it's 60,000 after four. It's after year three. Yeah. It's 60,000.40020 thousand and then after five years
it's actually zero. Why is this important? Because this is what you're
going to see in terms of difference between the cashflow
and the income statement. In the cashflow
statement, you will have had to do the cash outflow, cash out of $100,000 to the car dealer except
if you financed it. And let's leave that 1 s aside. But in income certainly
will only incur the depreciation cost of 20,000 for the
upcoming five years. And here you see,
and what you see on the bottom of this chart, you see that the
cashflow statement, obviously the red part, that's the big cash
out of 100,000. And you see how the
income statement of a five-years just reflects this -20,000 depreciation cost. And this is why you have
differences between the cashflow statement
and the income sin. And this is very important to understand that at a
certain moment in time, if you make the sum of the total cash outflows for that car between
year one and year five, when in fact there
was only a year one cash flow, 100,000. And you make the sum of the 20,000 yearly expenses
in the income statement. After five years, we have spent as much cash as you incurred
expenses in the income same. So you see that Cash and income or cash
outflows and income expenses, they correlate over time. It has to otherwise, somebody is manipulating the
financials of the company. And I'm trying to explain
this and easy way to you. Alright? So another sets, and this
is one of the reasons why a lot of people prefer to look at cashflows versus income. Same because income
statement carry what is called non-cash items. A cost of depreciation or depreciation expense as when
I was showing you here. That's a non-cash item. This is where you
will see in fact, in most financial reports where when they look at
the cash flow statement, they reconcile the income with the cash-flow
and they add to it the non-cash items to make
sure that both elements correlated together because
financial statements have to correlate together. So when we look at the
cashflow statements, so the cashflow statement has already said a
couple of minutes ago, there are three main sections. The cashflow from
operating activities, the cash flow from investing, and the cash flow
from financing. The first, the very first thing to look into is
the cash flow from operating activity
because that's the operating cycle That's a core business of the company, is really how much cash has
been generated on potentially lost through the operating
cycle of the company, through the orbiting assets. This is what will come out in terms of cashflow from
operating activity. Then you're going to have
the investment cycle that's infected the flow number for how much are we in fact reinvesting
into the business. But important here
as well to say, in the investing activity, you may have as well, the company getting RID. So let's say selling off
long term fixed assets, e.g. the company has ten
manufacturing plants and decides to sell one of those ten manufacturing
plants to a competitor, e.g. because they are going away
from a certain market, That's something
that is not part of the operating activity of
the operating cashflow. That's something that
would be part of the investing cycle and
that's a divestments. So in the investing cash flow, you will see reinvesting
into the business, expanding the amount
of fixed assets, but also potentially
divesting a long-term assets. That's something
that you will see as well in the investing activity, cashflow, in the cash
flow from financing, if you remember the froze 5.6. So how much is going back to the Dr. is
and how much is going back to the shareholders
here again, very important. It's not just an outflow
that can happen. You may also have
inflows of adapts and you may have inflows
of fresh capital. When do we have
inflows of depth? When the company during
the operating or let's say during the reporting
period that you're analyzing, went to the bank and ask for
a new loan or the company raised money through a new
corporate dept instruments. This is where the money, there will be an
inflow of money. That's something
that you will see in the financing activity as well. With shareholders the same, maybe the company management
because they are preparing a big acquisition is going to the shareholders and
not to the bank. He's saying, I need supplemental capital to
acquire this competitor. Are you willing to sell us
to give me more capital? This is where in the financing activity casual you're going to see an inflow
potentially as well, not just outflows, but
also inflows of capital. That's something
that you will also see in the financing activity. Let me give you a very
concrete example. Here you have the Mercedes
cashflow statements. So you have on the upper,
on the upper part, you see that the
company in 2020 has generated a profit before
income taxes of 6,000,000,339. There you see the
precision that is added back because
that's a non-cash item. Then there are, let's say, changes in working
capital that are also, they are to correlate, let's say, the movements
between income and cash flow. And then you see in
fact that the cash provided by operating
activities has been 22 dots, 332 billion from
our citizen 2020. That's action. That's the operating
you see it says cash provided by operating
activities. Then you see in
section number two, the cash used for
investing activities. You see e.g. that they have added property,
plant and equipment, so they have probably added a the officers are
manufacturing plants. They have added
intangible assets. So probably they have a board, trademarks, patents, competitors,
those kind of things. So you see that
the cash used for investing activities
in the case of Mercedes is a negative number of six minus six dots
for €21 billion. So they have in fact spent, that's the flow number four. They have spent six dot for €21 billion in flow number four. Now how does it work with
the financing cashflow? So you see in fact that
they have in fact spent. 10,000,000,747. That's the last line in the frame number three
on the right-hand side. And in fact, there is something very
specific for Mercedes. They are also playing the role
of a bank for in order to finance the purchase of
cars to their customers. So that's why you're
going to see a lot of movements in terms of
financing activities. You will see as well, dividends have been paid out to the shareholders and to
non-controlling interests. You see here it's
963 negative so -963 million of share of dividends that have been
paid to the shareholders, and €282 million of dividends that have been paid to non-controlling interests. So net-net the company. So Mercedes has spent standard 7 billion in terms of
financing activity. So they have in fact
spend more than, they did not have
a positive number. If the number would have been
positive or they would have an inflow of cash coming
from financing sources. What is interesting as well
to know we're going to look into Kellogg's later on, is that you will see that in IFRS and US GAAP and I will explain this
in a couple of slides. The order of the
balance sheet is in fact reverse. It's flipped. While on the cashflows
dividend income seminary, you're looking in IFRS
report or US GAAP. It's the same order.
It's operating cashflow, it's investing cashflow and
its financing cashflow. Alright, and on thing also as
well that you need to know is that the three statements
are linked together. So remember the balance
sheet is showing the accumulation of
wealth since inception. So since they won of the company and the income and
cash flow statement are showing the results of
performance of the company. That is in terms of cash
collection or cash in and outflows versus
economic activity. That's the income statement
over a period of time. Week, a month, a quarter, or a semester, or
a year typically. I mean, when I read
the financial reports, it's typically
quarterly and annual. Mean. You don't see reporting periods of
a month or 27 days. I know it's interesting in here, I'm trying to make it
simple for you through these color codes
is that I mean, at the very end of the day, the balance of the
cashflow statement is reflected in the balance sheets as cash and cash equivalents. So you see in fact
that the 23 billion, €48 million of cash, which is the final
position 2020 of the cashflow statement
is reflected in the balance sheet in terms of
cash and cash equivalents, that's the flow number one. If you look at the earnings, the earnings that's a
little bit more complex. If the company has generated if this photo zeros
09000000000 or more. I mean, if you remove the
non-controlling interests, three dots 627, I'm speaking
about flow number two. You will not see that number, the three dots 627 in
the balance sheet. Why? Just think about it. What I
said about the balance sheet. The balance sheet
is the accumulation of wealth since day one. The income statement
here is showing you the profit that the company
generates in the year 2020. This will ads in fact to what is called the retained earnings and the balance sheet. And here you see when
you follow number, when you follow the flow
number two to the left, the company has 47 billion, €111 million of
retained earnings. So the retained earnings, if the company is making
profit year over year, it will adds up to those
retained earnings. So the company is what
is called the book value or the equity value
of the company will grow because the
company is in fact adding profits year over year
to the retained earnings. And if the company
is writing a loss, maybe in 2021, e.g. you will have a
negative figure on the income statement
and the balance sheet. The retained
earnings, it will be 47 billion, €111 million, minus then the result of 2021 21 figure would
have been negative. So then in the
cashflow statement as well as said earlier, we need to reconcile the cash items within
non-cash items. So incomes in and cashflow have to be reconciled together. And this one I'm showing you
here in flow number three, where you see the profit
before income taxes, which is 6,000,000,239, appears as the first
line in the cashflow. Same on the right-hand side, if you look at
bullet point number three on the right-hand side, you see that it
starts from there. And then the first thing
that is done in order to calculate the
operating cash flow. And Mercedes and any
company is adding, reconciling the
non-cash items with the profit that is coming
from the income statement in order then to show
a cash position. And the first cash
position being shown is the balance of the
operating activities, which is a cash flow from
operating activities. For Kellogg's, is the
same, same logic. So the cash and
cash equivalents, it's the end position at the end of the last period
that I'm looking here, it's 135 million out of 135. They are shown in
the balance sheet. You see that in bullet
point number two, we have, in fact, the company has been
writing a profit of $1,264,000,000 in the year 2020. This adds up to the
retained earnings. So it adds up to now the company has 8,000,000,326 of
retained earnings. And you see as well that, that profit is actually the starting line
of the cashflow. And then you see that the
first line after that or adjustments to reconcile net income to
operating cashflows. So those are the
non-cash items that have b have to be
reconciled, e.g. the non-cash expense of the Mercedes car where we are incurring a €20,000, $20,000.
7. Investor relations & annual reports: Alright, in Leicester
as last lecture in the chapter number one about understanding
the key concepts. And in this last lecture I
will just very small one, explain to you where to find the financial reports of the company that
you're interested in. So the first thing, I mean, coming back and we
will be discussing this again in the mindset. But remember what Charlie Munger was also saying is that
it's also very investors. You need to act as
business owners even though you only own, even though you only
own zero.00 00, 1% of the total
amount of shares. What I want you is that
you really think as being a shell of that company
that you like the business. And in order to act
as a business owner, you would need in fact
to review and you should use shell review
on a quarterly basis, the latest financial
reports of your company. How can you do that? Well, you can reduce it to the investor relations website. I mean, we are speaking about
publicly listed companies. They all have Investor
Relations website where you can register
as a shareholder or not. You will get automatic
notifications in your inbox when the latest financial
report is out, e.g. so that's the first
thing I recommend you to do in a
very concrete way. The second thing is you need
also to understand what type of notifications of events
can happen in the company. And if they have to be, let's say, transmitted,
communicated to the shareholders. So the first thing is, of course, depending on the
country that you're in. But I will start
with US regulations. So the US companies
that are publicly listed are in fact regulated by the Securities and Exchange
Commission is called the SEC. The Securities and
Exchange Commission mandates and makes
it mandatory for publicly listed companies
that in specific events, they have to do reports. The first thing is at
quarterly closing, US companies are obliged to publish what is
called Ten Q report. It's a report that shows the financial performance of the last quarter and it
includes the balance sheet, the income statement,
the cash flow statement, and the nodes that explain the various positions in
the financial statements. What you need to know as well
is that a ten Q2 report, quarterly report is unaudited, so there will not be an axon statutory auditor that
will confirm the figures. It's purely based on management's signing off and the board of directors
signing of those figures. And then once per year,
at least in the US, the company has to file what
is called a ten K report. That's the annual report. And that report is also in this time is audited by the
external statutory auditors. So you're going to have
typically like KPMG, Price Water House, Ernst and
Young, Deloitte, et cetera. Those big companies video that
will in fact will certify the numbers that the company is providing in the report
with some reserves, of course, because
they are having a limited amount of time
to certify the numbers, but there was always
an amount of risk. We will be discussing
fraud later on. It may happen as well that
the company has unscheduled, substantial, and very important, whereas caught material
events there, e.g. the company has to provide
an eight K report. They cannot wait for the
next quarter to disclose it. They have a certain delay in
terms of timing to do that. So for me, in the attitude of a value investor is the minimum I'm expecting
from you is that you, if it is a US company, that you read those
quarterly reports and the annual report, of course, the
most important one unreliable one would be the
one that will be audited. But it's important
that you build up this discipline of
going every quarter into the financial
reports and just getting yourself knowledgeable
of what has happened. Quarter over quarter. If you are having,
if you're investing into other countries
like Europe, there's a little bit different. So the company is obliged, if I look at German
and French markets on a semester basis to provide
a full report on an annual, Of course, an auditor's reports and for the quarters in-between. So the first quartile and
the third quarter in Europe, at least if I take the example
of France and Germany, I'm unsure about Spain. That's the company has to
provide a sales update, but it will not be as in-depth like a ten
q report in the US. But again, I mean, I've also invested our family money into
European company. So I go into those even sales updates and get myself a little
bit knowledgeable, but you will not have the income cashflow statement
and balance sheet. So you will have to wait
every six months to see this. Alright, so if you're interested
in going deeper, I mean, I was speaking about
the eight k forms which are really linked to special events that cannot wait the next quarterly report
that have to be disclosed. I mean, there are
different type of events like changes in
the board of directors. You may have e.g. changes in ownership
of the company, big shareholder selling steak and a new big shallow coming in. So there are some
elements and you can look this up for yourself. Where or what kind of
events in fact trigger those intermediate reports that cannot wait for the
quarterly reports. I think what is
important and I was showing you this
this first page. You see it's here. It's an
eight K reports to eight K. It's a special events
that cannot wait the next quarterly,
let's say disclosure. So here it was departure
of directors, e.g. that happens for McDonald's. On the ten q, ten k. You're going to
see the first page that will be pretty similar. But then the content of course, will be not linked to specific events, but
it will billing e.g. with the financial
reports either unaudited, are audited, but really
practice your eye, just read those forms at 10:10 k8k reports for the
companies that you like. I mean, it's not rocket science. You don't need a
PhD for doing this. But I think it will ease the way and it will
make you become a better investor or
by practicing your eye at least on the companies
that you're interested in by reading those
financial reports, then as well as something
that you need to know. And I'm just adding this as the last example in
terms of reports, at least for the US,
because this is also something that is
often discussed. I'm always interested
and a lot of people are always interested
to know what are the movements of
Warren Buffett because Warren Buffett's company,
Berkshire Hathaway. They, I mean, a lot of
the money that they manage is money that is coming
from external investors. And the rule in
fighting the US is that institutional
investment managers, so companies are asset managers that own more than 100 million. They are obliged by the SEC, the Securities and
Exchange Commission, to report their
holdings at least 45 days after the closing
of the previous quarter. So Warren Buffett in fact, has to disclose a Berkshire
Hathaway has to disclose 45 days after the closing
of the last quarter. So typically, it
would be like if the quarter ends March
31st on May 15th, they are obliged latest to publish the movements
between what happened between Q4 of the
year before and now one of the after
that's monitor. And you can, and that's
very interesting to see what the movements in fact are. You not only have this
for Berkshire Hathaway, you have this for other
companies are big investors that have more than 100 million
of assets under management. Alright? So wrapping up here, the
first chapter, I mean, we, I hope that you
understood the reasoning behind making you knowledgeable and aware about those
fundamental concepts. It is the change of value
of money over time. This value creation cycle that we have between
the sources of capital can be debt
and equity versus the trends transforming
that capital into assets. The risk adjusted return or
reward that you can expect depending on the type of vehicle investment closet
you investing into. Also the different types of investment styles and
exists as I said. So I hope that you understand
what is now a value invest and what my
style of investing is. Also the different
types of shares that we have been discussing that
you get no self knowledge. But then at the very end, I had to go into showing
you how those cycles, 345.6, how are they do
appear in the balance sheet, income statement and
cashflow statement. I think that's really
the minimum that you need to know in terms of financial report to
be able to extract. And we will be
practicing this a lot in order to extract a couple of figures of those
financial reports because we will need them to calculate the intrinsic
value of a company. And the last lecture was
indeed about telling you where to find the
reports of the company. And yeah, do go on the
investor relations site, google it up or bring
it up and maybe subscribe to the
automatic newsletter of the companies that
you're interested in. If the company has an investor relations website
and newsletter. Alright, closing chapter
number one here. And in the next
chapter we will be discussing about the mindset. Before then we really go into the technical details of
the level 12.3 tests. Thanks for tuning in. Oh.
8. Circle of competence & investment universe: All right, welcome
back investors. So we have finished
Chapter number one where I tried to share the main fundamentals to be able to think as a value investor. And specifically more let's say technical terms of
financial related terms. As we have been discussing,
Chapter number one. Alright, chapter number two, and I know that
you are keen to go into Chapter number three to do the level one tears and
understand how to select, let's say companies that you, first of all, that you like, but secondly that
you try to calculate its intrinsic value and hopefully find out that
the company is cheap. In fact, while at the same time having solid fundamentals. But before doing that, please be a little bit patient. Chapter number two
will be a quick one, but I think it's
really essential that you go through
Chapter number two. And the reason for
that is I want really to teach you if you allow me
to say with lot of humility. Also the mindset that value investors need to have is not just
about technicalities. Understanding how money works on listening, how inflation works, understanding how the value creation cycle of
a company works, on knowing which test
to do and which methods to use to do the intrinsic
value calculation. There's something more. It's really how you behave
as a value investor. When you are thinking
about putting your money, your husband's money,
your wives money, your family's money, your kids money into
the stock market. And for me, it's
really essential, I'm sharing this with you. So the first thing
in the mindset that we're gonna be discussing, and in fact, if you have
listening correctly, you already have heard that I was speaking
about the circle of competence or the end or the investment
universe when I was speaking about the different
investment styles. But let me just repeat
what I was saying there. So the circle of competence is something that I learned
from Warren Buffett's, where I'm, let's say, stating that you cannot
be good at everything. If it is, I mean, in
your business life, in your professional life, maybe you're having
some hobbies, some spores, you cannot
be good at everything. One thing that I've learned from Warren Buffett is really to stay away and to refrain from investing into
if it is companies, industries, geographies
that I do not understand. So if you recall a
couple of lessons ago, I was mentioning that well, first of all, I'm
a value investor. I only invest into stocks. I only invest into large
cap, omega cap companies. And so you hear through that there are already some kind
of segmentation attributes. I'm not a growth stock investor. That would be one of the
segmentation attributes. So not later than a
couple of weeks ago, I was asked for an
American platform to do a podcast on how to value
Spotify as a growth stock. But I mean, even though I
love the brand Spotify, we use Spotify at home. It's a growth, so it's not a value stock for
me at least today. So I would refrain
from investing into Spotify the capitalization size. We already discussed it. So I personally only invest into large-cap,
mid-cap companies. You have very successful
value investors that invest into smaller
cap companies as well. But again, that's
something that you have to decide for yourself. What are the type of stocks
that you invest into? What is the capitalization
size that you invest into? Because small cap. And why is this important? If you take the example of the capitalization size
attribute small-cap companies, they have maybe one analyst, if any analysts that is covering them from a reporting
perspective, analyzing the financials, etc. When you look at large-cap,
mid-cap companies, you're going to
have at least 40, 50 financial analysts that we'll be looking
at that company. The companies have
a lot of exposure. So the pressure also on
management is in fact different. For me. I mean, I
like large cap and mega cap companies because of
the strength of the brand. Or we will be discussing
that later on and I think I will already
be introducing it in a couple of minutes. Then the industry
vertical or sub vertical. So what do we mean by
industry is really, let's say a segment of, let's say business activities. That in my opinion, you need to understand. I mean, I I think I like cars. So since many, many years, I have invested into
automotive industry. I have Mercedes, I have currently still entities
as well in my portfolio. I had forwarded my portfolio
couple of years ago. I do not invest into farmer, I do not invest into biotech, I do not invest into banking, and I do not invest
into insurance. I do not understand
those businesses. I've never worked in
those businesses. So I tend not to. I mean, I really
refrained from investing. I never invested into
any of those companies. Telecommunications. I'm initially many,
many, many years ago. I mean, I have a
tech background. So if it is IT
telecommunications? Technology in journal I
breathe at something. I do understand. It doesn't mean that
because I understand it. As I spent, let's
say two decades in that business area that I would predict that
invest into it. But nonetheless, that would
be at least not something I would exclude if there would be a good value large cabinet. I kept opportunity in tech industry that are
potentially would invest in June. There are many other industries. Mining, you have no chemical industry,
those kind of things. And of course
sometimes the industry is reflected as well
through some indexes. So if you take e.g.
the Dow Jones, I mean, that's more, let's say a traditional kind
of business activities. The companies that are
part of the Dow Jones, we look at the S&P
500, that's more, let's say a more tech
focused industry makes it you will find also in, through an index
as a PDF download. And if you're interested, you're going to find in fact, a lot of indexes like BlackRock has in excess
or trackers or ETF, whatever you call them, that some value
focus, other ones, attack focus, other ones
are pharma focused. So you're going to
find also indexes where in fact those
brokers are making you are asset managers
are making you those kind of indexes available. Specifically. I mean, they, they tried to, let's say, personalize it closest to your
investment style in fact, but do not forget that indexes, they will never outperform the S&P 500 overall
market index. And if you wanna be better, if you have higher
returns than average, you need to do something
as and that's why I'm sharing with you how to do
value investing in fact, and this is basically what
Warren Buffett has been doing. Remember his track record or
trolley Mongo, Peter Lynch, also one of the segmentation
attributes that you can have a geographical
markets. So e.g. for me personally, I only
invest in US, in Europe. I looked at three companies on the Japanese market but
decided not to invest into. There was a telecommunication
company called NTT. I even think I have a
YouTube video about NTT, Nintendo and Sony. Those were the three
that I looked into, but at the very end of the day, I did not decide to invest. Japan would be a market
that I would feel comfortable in the sense that I don't think that
the government would, let's say, do stupid
things towards investors. So I could imagine
if there would be another opportunity that I
would invest into Japan. And I do monitor as part of my portfolio of my
investment universe. I have some **** Japanese
brands that are part of my investment universe
that I've monitor. Of course, timing
has to be right, that I get those companies
that are very cheap price. China is also, of course, a very interesting market. And you have other
emerging markets like India, et cetera. I mean, maybe you are
knowledgeable about these markets. I'm not to be very honest. And so with all due respect
for the Chinese government, I think they have made a lot of, let's say, improvements to satisfy as well
foreign investors. I nonetheless believe with
all due respect for them, that what they did for a
grand day when there was a real estate bubble going on in China a
couple of years ago. And then that company
decided in fact, only to reimburse
local depth total of Chinese dept herbals and that
foreign debt holders would not be reimbursed at
least not immediately. That's the kind of
thing that I believe does not create trust. But there are very
interesting companies in China like Alibaba,
tense and etc. Baidu. So I mean, you have some interesting companies
in China as well. But again, I do not
feel comfortable today to invest into China, but it may change in the future. But for the time being, my
three geographical markets, I would potentially consider
investing is Europe, US. So I have a mix between
the two and then Japan. In terms of instruments,
as already said, I only invest into stocks. I don't trade. I mean, I don't not
invest into derivatives even though I believe
that doing derivatives, trading, nothing on commodities, nothing on foreign exchange,
those kind of things. So it's purely stocks
that I invest into. So I think what is important
is that you need to make yourself comfortable with
what are your attributes, what is your investment style? Here I'm sharing with you how I have defined my
investment universe and we will discuss later on, I think it's when we will be discussing level of three tasks, but also in level
one when we will be discussing about the
financial powerhouse, I will introduce the
concept as well of the modes and already in fact introduced it a couple
of lessons ago. So I only invest
into large brands. Of course, it's not just about investing
into large brands. The fundamentals of financial
fundamentals that I will be sharing with you in this
training have to be, of course. Okay. And I, the market has to give me the company at 25 to 30%
below safety margin, below its current
intrinsic values. So with a safety
margin of 25 to 30%, and I want to have a passive
income dividend yield of something 5-7%. Of course that my
timing has to be right. I will share with
you later on how my portfolio looks
like and also you can monitor the kind of investments that I'm
doing because I have seen a lot of people that are
speaking about value investing and they always make like a mystery of what
they invest into. So I also, when I
wanted to share this with you and with all the people that are
interested in value investing. And I started doing this
like four years ago. I mean, I consider that I need to be
transparent about what do I invest into solar
cell is around how to be able to monitor as well, even though I'm not
obliged to follow the three-and-a-half reporting
principles as I don't have 100 million of
assets under management. But, um, I wanted to be
transparent about that. So going back to my investment
universe is what is those 200 mega and
large cap companies that you will find through, Let's say, marketing agencies that are specialized in doing the evaluation of those brands. And we're going to be reusing
this later on when we will be speaking about
adjusted book value. So adjusting the book value
of the company when we will be looking at the
brand value of the company, which is an intangible asset sitting in the balance
sheet of the company. So that's my
investment universe. So I mean, I love the entire
brands marketing agency. They are specialized
in brand valuation and every year they come up with a top 100 brands in the
world and the movements, and they also provide the
valuation of the brand. So that's really
something I like. And again, when I speak
about investment universe, it's my first filter. It's the companies that
potentially I could consider investing into if the
financials are okay. And of course, then I
have other attributes, the geography, the industry. So in the top 100 you're
going to see very probably some banks you're going to see like Visa, American Express. I would not invest
into those companies and maybe those
companies are great. I do know that Warren Buffett
has been very successful, I think wasn't with American
Express MasterCard, If I'm not mistaken. So again, it does not mean because this is my
investment universe. That's per default. I would invest into all
of those companies. So the first thing is, This is like the
scope that I monitor. And there's gonna
be a lecture in, I think it's in
the appendix where I'm showing you how I do this, narrowing down this
filtering from a very broad investment
universe monitoring of, let's say, 200 large
brands in the world, which is more or
less the kind of companies I'm looking into. Then I filter on industries
that I understand. So you have understood that
pharma, biotech, banking, insurance or excluded
per default for me, at least maybe for you, you're going to be
very successful in it. Then I look into the
fundamentals and then I narrow down and maybe the
moment I have cash available, there are only two or
three companies that match all the criteria
that will teach you later on in the upcoming chapters
with a level 12.3 tests. But this is again, this
is not rocket science. I mean, this information
is publicly available. I like Interbrand, but
you have other ones like brand z or this kind of, let's say marketing
agencies that provide, you can just Google
up or being like, who are the top 100
brands in the world and you will find those
kind of things as well. But for me, into brands, I mean, since many, many, many years, I really like what they do and it
is very precise. I like the quality
of how they do the valuation of
those companies. Alright? So, which means
that if I'm coming back to this risk reward charts or function that we were discussing a
little bit earlier, a couple of lessons ago. So you now understand
that my investment, let's say universe is only Europe and US
for the time being, maybe a couple of
brands in Japan, but I did not have
the opportunity so far to invest money into Japan. And you see that it's only
large cap public stocks. So I'm not investing too
small cap but assets, you have some value
investors have been extremely successful
at investing into small cap companies. It's not my thing
I really like to have for the reasons
of profitability, pricing, power modes,
switching costs. I really liked invest into those very,
very strong brands. Alright, so that's about
the investment universe. And in the next lecture we'll be discussing about the
five core habits. Thank you.
9. The 5 core habits: Writing that's there
as we continue in Chapter number two
in the mindset. It's a quick chapter
before we go into the technical tests
in the next one. So after having shared
with you the how to define your investment universe with the various attributes that are linked to you invest in
universal circle of competence. I want to share with
you the five core habits that van and
vessels need to have. But then on finalizing
before then finalizing the chapter
with the sixth habit, which is Warren Buffett
in fact, specific habits. So what I tried to summarize
here is really the, the mindset, the attributes, even the values that you have to follow as a value investor. And of course, the link to
your personality, how you are. And I'm showing you with
you more than 20 years of experience where I have invested myself more
than €1 million. I have attended university
courses on value investing, also, talking to other
value investors, participate in
conferences, exchange also with other professional
investors. And I was able to observe different behaviors and also people that came to me asking for financial valuation of a company or people that came to me to get one-on-one trainings on value investing because they lost their shirt. So I try really to
summarize what I believe. And it's also around Buffalo and Chennai manga share
rather the traits, personality traits that
you need to have to be good or to become a
good value investor. The first one is courage. And it's not necessarily something that's Warren
Buffett has spoken about, but something that I have, I have very clear
opinion about it because I am very
beginning in fact, when I was teaching
value investing, I had people that told me, Yeah, but you know, candy, I also do this and have virtual portfolio and execute
virtual, virtual purchases. Now I believe that that's not
the right attitude to have. Of course, putting
your money into, let's say a stock investment,
it requires courage. I mean, you have probably spent a lot of time
earning that money. Maybe it's as I said, your partners money, your kids money, your family's money. But I believe it's really
important that you do not play with
virtual portfolios, but you really execute real transactions on
the stock markets. Of course, maybe start small, get yourself, let's
say knowledgeable. Get yourself comfortable
about doing this. I mean, I have my salad. I've been teaching this
now for many, many years. If I look at one of
my best friends, he started with,
let's say $5,000. I think it was for his first investment
because he was really, really, really afraid and freaking out about
losing that money. And what would his wife
say if something happened? And today, in fact, after a couple of years, he recognized that
it works and he really feels much
more comfortable investing into the stock market because he follows
a certain set of rules for the time being has not been wiped out because
he's not speculating, but it requires courage. I mean, I fully understand
that I fully get it. But I really recommend you to start small if you are afraid. I was afraid when I
started more than 20 years ago because
it's real money. It's, you're not playing
with virtual money, but you need to push the
button and you're going to feel the pressure
of pushing the button. It is on your bank broker
and really becoming a shareholder even
though a very small shareholder by
shareholder of a e.g. big company, if I look at the companies
that I invest into. So that's the first cohabit that you need to develop
as a value investor. The second one is being humble. I mean, an even think that men tend to brag much
more than women. Generally speaking, if you
allow me to say like this, and it's of course, easy to brag when your financial performance
goes through the roof. I mean, sometimes
it's just pure luck. And I like, I took care of
statements from Jeff Bezos, the former CEO of Amazon. And he was giving a speech
at the Economic Club in Washington DC where he
said, in fact, quotes, when the stock is
up 30% in a month, don't feel 30% smarter because when the stock
is down 30% in mind, it's not going to feel so
good to fill 30% Dumber. So I mean, I mean, if you understand what
he means by that is, I mean, value investors
should be humbled. And you should absolutely
also feel fine if other people are apparent apparently making
more money than you, they brag about it. That's okay. I can live with it. It's not a competition against
other investors because that would create risk. Just making sure that
the money that we have earned as a
family is creating this compounding
effect as I've been teaching you a couple
of lessons ago already. So that's the second trait
or the second habits to develop is really being humble about the investments
that you're doing. The third one is zero leverage. I mean, I had myself I think
it was like 23 years ago, three years ago it was it
was pre-COVID periods. I hadn't invested from the US. It came to me and he said,
Listen, Kenny, I mean, I want you to teach me one-on-one value investment
because I, in fact, I did stupid mistakes putting our family money into
the stock markets. And in fact, I lost my shirts, so he was not totally wiped out, but he lost big
amounts of money. And he said, I mean, I need to do something else. I have to stop looking at those, let's say technical
grubs and trying to predict from the technical graph what
is going on, et cetera. That was the reason he came
to me and said, okay, I mean, I'm of course I'm
fine to teach you at least or to share
is how I do it. I'm not sure if that's something that's at the very
end he has continued, but he wanted for sure to have a different perspective
on investing. And I'm saying on investing and not speculating on
the stock market. So zero leverage is something
where it's extremely risky because if you're losing
money and on top of that, it's not your money. I mean, somebody will come like typically a bank
and we'll claim, of course, that you have
to reimburse that money. And you have people and even for myself and I've been discussing
this with my wife a lot. It would feel easy after more than 20 years and
I think we are, I mean, not too bad in terms of performance after 20
years and money is still around and we are living today from the money
that we have earned. And we are living today from the passive income of
all our investments. And I believe that of course the thoughts
is when you are, okay in terms of performance
is you want to accelerate, you want to always have more. There is the risk
that you become over comfortable and you would start borrowing money from the bank to invest
into the stock market. It's definitely something
I do not do and it's very clearly something I do not recommend because that really increases the amount of
risks that you're taking. So for me is you should
only invest money into the stock market that
you really own, period. That's it for stop. I think it's very clear
and I don't want you to be wiped out because they have been borrowing too much money, hoping that the stock
market would go up and the market goes down, so you cannot sell those assets. But in the meantime, you need to reimburse
the money that you have borrowed from the
bank. Be attentive on. For me, it's very
clear, no depth and zero leverage discipline. I mean, that's also
very important. I mean, we've been
discussing about the investment universe that's already developing this
investment universe. It's a discipline knowing which geographies you're not
investing into its discipline, knowing which industries you
are investing, respectively, not investing into it,
That's discipline as well and sticking to that, of course, you can learn new,
let's say industries, but it takes some time, it will not come tomorrow, e.g. so really having
this characteristic of being disciplined in the way how you invest
and this is what I will try to share with you
through the level one, level two, level three tasks is explicitly doing those tasks. And if the test or not are the results
of the test or not, okay, do not invest. Or if you really invest,
then you really have to have a good argument why you
have decided to invest. But really for me
and you're going to see this in the upcoming
chapter as well. We will develop the
level one, level two, level three tasks
that aren't really tried to stick extremely. I mean, with a lot of strengths
to the test that I have developed and making
sure that if I, if one of the companies I'm
investing into hands e.g. too much in depth or is
not paying me out enough. Let's say passive income are
the company. I don't know. It's just having no margin of safety on the current price I'm getting from the market, I'm staying away from it. So really develop this
mindset of being disciplines. I will give you a set of
rules and of course you can adapt those rules according
how you feel comfortable. But again, for me, it's important that
if you have defined this set of rules and investment
universe is one of them, but the technical
tells that we will develop in the
upcoming chapters. Upcoming chapters will be also
part of that set of rules. Please stick to those rules. And of course you can make
them evolve those rules, but it requires
learning and we will be discussing this as
the sixth Habit. Patients. That's a very
specifically for value investors. I think that's one of the
most important attributes that you need to have, is really having
the capacity to buy companies when the market
is depressed in fact, and sticking to those companies and even potentially
buying more of those companies when the
market is really getting very, very depressed, it happens. And I will share with you
in the upcoming minutes, that's a bear markets
and market corrections. They happen all the time. They happen every two years you're going to
have a market correction. So that's minus ten per cent. And every four years in average
since the last century, you're going to
have a bad market that's at least a
correction of -20%. So of course, I mean, if you don't have the discipline and you
don't have a set of rules and you do
not know why you have put your money
into a company. Of course, you will become, you will develop
very strong fear because you have
been speculating. But if you have a
set of rules and the company financials
are sounds, and you have followed
that set of rules. Of course it will
take some time, maybe that the
market comes back, but the market will
eventually come back. So they're really patients
is really, really required. And it may happen
that your portfolio goes down by 50 per cent, e.g. so that's happens. But at the same time, and we will discuss
that later on. If you have been compounding dividends on those investments
because the company, even though the
market is going down, the company is able to
continue paying out dividends. Those dividends,
cumulative dividends are also protecting you from those markets are corrections
as well on your portfolio. But we will discuss about passive income and
dividends later on. So here mean when you look at the five attributes
or courage, humility, zero leverage,
discipline, and patience. I mean, in the
element of patients, there is one external factor
that you cannot control, which is something
that Benjamin Graham calls Mr. Market and
Warren Buffett also calls. That's, let's say persona
could have been Mrs. market, but it's Mr. Market. So it's like an,
an allegory that has been created by
Benjamin Graham. And of the '40s in his
book, Intelligent Investor. When in fact he tries to make
the market fluctuations, let's say correlates
with human behavior. And he's actually
saying that Mr. Market is often
identified as having human behaviour of a manic depressive or manic depressive
characteristics are sometimes Mr. Market
is super-excited and sometimes miss the market is really, really,
really depressed. So Benjamin Graham, already
before Warren Buffett, has been describing
this a market. With that Mr. Market has irrational traits
of personality. And this then of course, applies to stock
market fluctuations. And also people
then have some kind of group thinking about when
the market gets depressed, the first wave of people
start to sell that, and the second wave
of people that were about to sell see
the first people, the first wave of people
selling, they do the same. And if everybody has
his group thinking, that's potentially a
fantastic opportunity for you to buy chip companies because everybody is selling. And I'm going to
explain to you how to monitor this because it is
happening every two years, at least since the last century, you have those corrections. So assets, the Benjamin Graham was explained that Mr.
Market is emotional, is euphoric, sometime is very
moody, is often irrational. I mean, you, you will read
a lot about academics who believe they speak about the theoretical models
of market efficiency. That markets everybody
has the same level of inflammation and that
markets are efficient. So there is no
opportunity to buy, in fact, companies below
the intrinsic value. And I promise you with all
due respect, that's ********. So it's not true. I mean, just look at history, just look at, and I will
share with you some graphs. Just look at what happens
during the COVID, just look at what
happened since last year. Of course, those are unfortunate
events between them. What is going on between
Ukraine and Russia without going into the politics between
those two countries here. But just from an investment
perspective, sorry, but the market became
irrational and that's great opportunities
for you to buy fantastic companies
at cheaper prices. And I promise you, I
have been doing this. Just go on my website and you're going to see how I've been investing as well through
those downturns of the market. So a disciplined investor understands this
and is able to just follow his or her rules about how to do the
intrinsic valuing, evaluation or calculation
of a company. And then sees that the
market is potentially giving the company
Y at 25 to 30%. And they're really patient, is one of the most
important virtues and attributes that you have to have when dealing with Mr.
markets. It is like this. You cannot change it. And I think it's very
important that you understand and with
all due respect for all the economic people
that are coming up with very complicated theory
is about market efficiency. Markets are not efficient. You're gonna have those
external shocks. As e.g. it wasn't an interview from a US Federal Reserve person three months, four months ago. That actually was saying, we have a lot of
compute power to try to mobilize the
market movements, macroeconomic movements, etc. But there is one thing, and the guy was stating that
there is one thing that we cannot model or the
external shocks. And those shocks
cannot be predicted. And this is what I will
try to share with you as well through another video, which is a video of Peter Lynch and what is very interesting, and it's a video, I mean, I've put the URL
on YouTube here, but I really want you
to listen into it. It's a lecture
that he gave 1994, so that's 30 years
ago and he has been a very successful investor
where already then he was explaining or sharing his perspective about a
market predictability. So please listen into the
video of Peter Lynch. So the portion that is interesting is
between the minutes. So starting after 15
min 4 s up to 18, 50. So listening and
then I'll come back. People get too carried away. First of all, they try to
predict the stock market. That is a total waste of time. No one to predict
the stock market. They try to predict
the interest rates. I mean, this is it. If any real interest
rates, right, three times in a row,
that'd be a billionaire. It's saying there's not that many billionaires on the planet. It's very logic site a syllogism in the study of these one as a
Boston College. They can't be that
many people to convict interest rates because it'd
be lots of billionaires. And no one can
predict the economy. I love you in this room
were around in 1980, 1.82 when we get to 20% prime rate with double-digit inflation,
double-digit unemployment. I don't remember anybody
telling me in 1981 about it. I didn't read I
started all this up. I don't remember anybody
tell me the worst recession since the depression. So what I'm trying to tell you, it'd be very useful to know what the
sarcomere is gonna do. It'd be terrific to know that the Dow Jones average
year from now would be x. We're going to have a
full-scale recession or interest rate is
going to be 12%. That's useful stuff. You'd
never know it though. You just don't get to learn it. So I've always said if you spend 14 min a year
and economics, you've wasted 12 min. And I, I really believe that
now I have to be IP fair. I'm talking about economics and the broad scale predicting the downturn for next year
or the upturn or M1 and M2, C3b and all these,
all these M's. I'm talking about economics to me is when you talk
about scrap prices. When I own a lot of stocks, I want to know what's happening. Used car prices. When used car prices going up, it's
a very good indicator. When I want hotel stocks, I
went to a hotel occupancy. Chemical stocks, I know
it's half the price of ethylene. These are facts. If alumina inventories go down five straight months,
that's relevant. I can deal with that
home affordability. I want to know about
my own Fannie Mae, where I own housing stock. These are facts,
their economic facts in this economic predictions, and economic predictions are a total waste and
interest rates. Alan Greenspan is
a very honest guy. He would tell you that he
can't predict interest rates. He could take with
short rates are gonna do the next six months. Try and stick them on what
the long-term rate of B3 years now, they'll say,
I don't have any idea. How are you the investors
supposed to take interest rates if they had a
Federal Reserve can't do it. So I think that's
what you should study history and histories. The important thing
you learned from what you learned in history
as the market goes down. It goes down a lot.
The math is simple. It has been 93 years is
century. This is easy to do. The markets had 50
declines of 10% ammonia. So 50 declines in 93 years. But once every two years
the market falls 10%. We call that a correction. That means that's a euphemism for losing a lot
of money rapidly. Correction and 50
declines in 93 years, about once every two years
the market falls 10%. Of those 50 declines. 15, had been 25% or more. That's known as a bear market. We've had 15 declines
in 93 years. So every six years the markets
can have a 25% decline. That's all you need to know. You need to know the markets
can go down sometimes. If you're not ready for that, you should own stocks. And it's good when it happens. If you'd like a socket
14, it goes to six. That's great. You
understand the company, you look at the balance
sheet and are doing fine. You're hoping to
get to 22 with it. 14 to 22 is terrific. 6%, 22 is exceptional. You take advantage
of these declines. They're going to happen. No one knows when
they're going to happen. It'll be very people tell you about it after the fact
that they predicted it, but they predicted at 53 times. And so you can take advantage of the volatile than the market if you
understand what your own. Okay. So I mean, if you have listening to Peter
Lynch and again, I mean, he was stating in 1994 and
so you can look into I mean, he has retired in the meantime. I'm not even sure if
he's still alive or not. But Simon, he has written a fantastic book about
how to beat the market. But if you look at
history, I mean, there are statistics
out there for more than 100 years
and we are now nearly at one-and-a-half
centuries of statistics about market fluctuations
and market movements. And I've put you the URL on multiple.com for the SAP 500s. When you look, I find
this very interesting that the market has ups
and downs all the time. I mean, if you look at 1920s, 1930s, you had a
world war situations. The Great Depression
that you had. You had the Cuban
Missile Crisis, you had the oil price shocks. Or remember, I was
very young kid where we had
hyperinflation, e.g. and the bank savings
account was giving you a like 12 per cent return. I mean, we had e.g. the year 2000s related
tech bubble that burst. We had the Great Recession,
subprime crisis. So if you're listening
to Peter Lynch's saying that every two years is gonna be market correction. So that's 10% down on, let's say if you take
an average index as a P5 hundred and
every four years, there's gonna be a bear
market in average. I mean, nobody can predict
really be six years, but it'd be seven,
will it be three? But those situations
happen all the time. And what is interesting, and this is another
grant that I took from Bloomberg in 2019, where in fact, when you buy it, some people are calling
these buying the dip. Even though I always say, you cannot be perfect
in terms of timing, because you cannot
predict the markets. You cannot always buy really
the bottom of the dip. But if you are buying in the
dip and you're following your set of rules to do an intrinsic value calculation and you have a margin of safety, you will have maybe great passive income
through dividends. The chances are high that at
a certain moment in time, it will come back very strong and you're gonna be
earning a lot of money. This is how it works, this is how it worked
for our family as well. So this is really what I'm
sharing with you here. And if we go beyond those
grounds, I mean, the, the Schiller graphs that I have pure stopped
thousand and ten. The Bloomberg chart
stopped in 2019. What happened in, in after? And that's interesting
because history has, the Peter Lynch
story has repeated again, 2020 COVID crisis. Just look at the drops on the Dow Jones 30 and the SAP 500s, tremendous drops. But did I do? I followed my
rules. I calculated the intrinsic value
of this company and I bought a lot of those companies are really
had cash available. So I bought lot of these companies for the
companies I had invested into. Well, I have to be patient. Then what happened 2020 to
just look at the curve. The curve came back
from the COVID, It went actually pretty high. And then 2022, Ukraine, Russia, crisis situation, commodity
problem, supply chain models. And so after a very euphoric, let's say post-COVID period, the market went down. We have now hyperinflation
of very high inflation, at least in developed
countries that do not know for emerging countries. The story again has
repeated itself, again, a bear market. So Peter Lynch is absolutely right or he has
been absolutely right. It's mentioning that every
two years is going to be a market correction
and referring there's gonna be a bear market. And the story continues. And there is no reason why the story shall not
continue in the future. Alright, so let's wrap up here
for the five core habits. I hope that you understood also, amongst those 45 cohabited, why? The fifth one,
which is patients, is important that you understand
how the market works. So let's now wrap
up chapter number two and talk about the
sixth habit. Thank you.
10. The 6th habit: Alright, value investors last lecture in chapter number two, which is after having discussed the investment
universe and the five, Kochab is a value investors
and also Mr. Market is the sixth habit and
it's something that I learned from Warren
Buffett in fact. So it's true that I
like to read a lot, but what I did not realize many, many years ago is this
compounding effect on, let's say, the learnings, the readings that you will have. Something that I
learned by listening to into what Warren Buffett and Charlie Munger we're
saying is that warren Buffett in fact
spends a lot of time, around 80 per cent of his time. In fact, on an
average day reading. So he just sits in his office
and reads all day long. And he mentioned that he's
reading a couple of hours, he reads corporate reports, he reads couple of
newspapers as well. So he once said that it's around 500 pages per day that he reads. And this is how knowledge works. And it builds up like what he's quoting like
compound interests. And I found this
very interesting. And in fact, throughout
the years I've been developing this trade as well are following what
Warren Buffett was saying. I promised you indeed
it works a lot. And I take those one very
easy example just by regulatory reading
corporate reports. I mean, the kind of
thing that I do, I do get individual investors
that reach out to me to do, I'll call it a
financial analysis of financial assessment based
on corporate reports. And not later than the
last couple of months, I had companies that
I've never heard about where investors
were asking me, can you make a financial
analysis of that company? I mean, the last example I had was a football club in the UK, which was a private
equity investment. It was not even publicly listed where the financial
reports were available. And the person asked me, can you tell me what
the company is worth? And it's true that by having
the opportunity to read a lot of corporate reports
every year with all humility. I'm saying this it
appears easy to meet to navigate through
those corporate reports, but it's just the
compounding effects. That's your brain
actually develops. So I think it's, I'm fully with Warren Buffett's and until we are not substituted by
artificial intelligence. I'm absolutely believe and support of what
Warren Buffett has been defining and that's what I defined as
the sixth habit, is really the continuous
education and learning and reading and never stop reading, never
stop learning. That's really, really
something very important. When I look at myself, I've been reading
more than 50 books on accounting, investing. I mean, I'm continuing
to read a lot of books. I listen to all the Berkshire Hathaway annual shareholder
podcast and that's I mean, that's a lot of time
to do this because just one annual shareholder
meetings like at least 3 h. And so that takes time. And what I said as well, I read every quarter the companies that
have invested into at least I do read there ten q and then the
annual ten K reports. And I always try to think, what can I do better in terms
of methodology and e.g. here and this value investing
calls as currently, I'm re-recording this course. We are in 2023 and the first
version of the course came out August 2020. I've added e.g. when we speak about depth and solvency of the
company, I've added, or let's say I have deepened one elements on
that part of tasks, which is the interest
coverage ratio. But we will discuss that later
on in the level one test. So I'm always thinking
about how can I improve things as
well and of course, sharing it with you as well. So asset remember that
the sixth cohabit is really continuous education,
reading and learning. And a lot of people
have also asked me, what are the type of books from the 50 plus books just on
corporate finance and value, company valuation, value
investing that I have read, which are the best
ones, kind of. So I've put here a list of
the six that I believe have, at least for me, a very important impact. So the order is not
necessarily important here. So the first one was as what the modal run book
on security analysis. I mean, he is greeted consider
the Dean of valuation. He's teaching at
Stern Business School at New York University. And he is for me one of my sources of inspiration how to do valuation
of companies, e.g. I. Learned a lot through
him about how to calculate the free cash flow to the firms, those
kind of things. Peter Lynch, I mean, you
already have listening to the video one Up on Wall Street. I think it's a great
book, easy to read. I mean, again, it's
not rocket science. It's such simple. Let's say methods are examples
that he's speaking about. But it doesn't
make so much sense when you're a value investor. Of course, the books
from Benjamin Graham, I mean, I cannot repeat enough, wreath Intelligent Investor. It's true, maybe not all
chapters are great to read. I'm not sure which
which are the chapters, but do remember
that two chapters, it's maybe 8.13 under a member, which are the ones
that really are for me, the essential ones. But you're going
to read the book, it's worth the investment. And I've been reading
it a couple of times. Even sometimes just
go back and reread the fundamentals from the Intelligent Investor
security analysis, the gram dot book as well. University of
Berkshire, Hathaway, Daniel pico and query
ran and Warren Buffett and interpretation of
financial statements from Mary buffet
and David Clark. I actually have it here. I can show it to you. It's this one,
Warren Buffett and interpretation of
financial statements. And in fact, it's a
book that I use a lot. You can see there are a
lot of annotations in it. I use it lot to extract
some tests that I found. And I'm speaking
here about many, many years ago that I found interesting that allow me to go a little bit beyond how to mobilize a little
bit those level one, level two tasks on top of the knowledge
that I had already, let's say, taken in. And I felt that this book
was pretty interesting on how to interpret financial
statements as well. Because value investing is about understanding
the fundamentals of a company and being
able to value the assets that you are
potentially willing to buy. So in terms of, let's say walkways, and while
concluding this chapter, I think that the initial
attitude that you need to have as a value
investor is really that value investors have to think that they are
owners of the companies. So they own a part of the company they
have invested into, act as a business owner. I mean, if you would have
unlimited firepower, if you would have
unlimited resources, would you buy the whole company and not just putting
in maybe 5,000, 50,000, 500,000, $5 million. Also, do not forget
that investing into the stock market
is always a zero. It's a net-net game. So if you earn $100
or somebody else has lost $100 and vice versa. And I'm always saying
that Mr. markets, while Mr. Market has his
traits of personality, Mr. Market is there
to serve you. I mean, after many
decades now of investing into the stock
market, I of course, it's always, still
scares me a little bit when I see like the market
is going down by 30, 40 per cent, it's
like, oh my god. But nonetheless, I've
developed the attitude of, oh, that's a great opportunity. I'm happy when markets
go down as well. Because I can, if I
have cash available, I can buy those great
companies at cheaper prices. So keep this in mind
and try to develop this initial attitude
as a value investor. What Warren Buffett's advice, this is the following. Rule number one, never lose
money and rule number two, never forget rule number one. So he also said that
if you cannot accept, your position is going down by 50 per cent during
a bear market. And if you don't have the stomach to stick
to your position, then potentially just
stay away from investing. And if you still want to invest, invest into an S&P 500 index. But if you really, if those kind of
situations stress, you really keep away from
really pushing the button. Maybe then you better have, your will be better around playing with virtual portfolios, Even though you will not
become wealthy with that. But really that's
the kind of thing. And here again, I mean, through this sentence what
Warren Buffett is saying, if you have strict rules and I will try to give you already
the first set of rules. If you have, if you are following strictly
those set of rules, you will see that you
will not lose your shirt. Of course, if you become
a little bit more flexible on those rules while
you're taking more risks. And this is where potentially
you will get wiped out. So even Warren Buffett has
been hit by unexpected events, I think was the Kraft
Heinz cooperation that he had invested
heavily into. And, and even though it
was a good investments, it they had to
restate the area of financial three years
of financial statements because I will not say
that there was fraud, but the financial
statements were a little bit over estimated. So they had really to restate
the financial reports. We can imagine what
then happens is drop in the stock market
and even think that management has to be
replaced because trust was lost at that moment in time and the share price dropped
from 48.5 to 27, 40, and it's slashed like more than 40% of the company's
market capitalization. So that may happen. But of course, I mean you
rely on external and we rely as when investors as
well on Excel and statutory auditors
for those companies, that this kind of
situation does not happen. Even Warren Buffett
was not aware that the financial statements
were inaccurate. So if I summarize before we
go into the next chapter, as is really with
the right attitude, value investing appears
very simple and easy to do, but you need to have
a set of rules. You need to define what is
your competence circle, what is the investment universe, but by following those rules and maybe adapting them with time in the sense that you become
better and maybe you do slight modifications
to the rules because if you're
not comfortable, while you will see it
appears pretty simple. In fact, that's what I'm really
trying to share with you. So just to wrap up again, so act as a business owner
thing about those habits, reread them from time-to-time. Do not try to predict the market because
it will not work. Just keep in mind. I mean, even the Federal
Reserve does not know how interest rates
will be in 12 months. They may know in three months or six months they have a good
guess, but not beyond that. So don't try to
predict the market. Just keep in mind that every
two years -10% in average and in average every four years is gonna be a bear market. And of course, you need
to have the stomach to stick to your
positions if you have followed a strict set of rules. And again, I'm hoping this why
I'm sharing this with you. I really hope that you
become super wealthy. And hopefully after a couple of years also financially
and intellectual independence as my family
was able to be in fact. So I think that's really what I want to share here with you. So in the next chapter, in fact, we are switching chapter as we go into the fundamental screen. So then it will become a
little bit more technical. We are going to be speaking about ratios, those
kind of things. So talk to you in
the next chapter. Thank you.
11. Blue chips: All right, Vania
Lasso, welcome back. In this lecture, we are
starting Chapter number three, and we're discussing, in fact, the first fundamental screen that is about Blue
Chip companies. So what is Blue Chip company? So the term actually
Blue Chip comes from the card game of Poker. You probably, I mean, I'm expecting that you
know the poker game. And in that context, blue chips are, in fact, the chips that have the highest, let's say, monetary value. We bring this term to
the investing landscape, you may have heard about the
term Blue Chip companies. We are looking actually at companies that are very strong, that are financially sound, that have strong brands, also companies that weather downturns and adverse economic situations in a much easier way than companies that are
less solid, in fact. So that's really something that defines Blue Chip companies, even though the term may
appear a little bit abroad, but I will share to you how I look at Blue Chip
companies and give you also a tool on how to know what are the latest and strongest
brands currently in the world. So why are value investors interested in investing
into Bluchp companies? Well, there are a
couple of things here. I mean, when I look
at Bluchp companies, what is very interesting
is that people have the tendency of willing to
buy the cheapest product. But for some products
and or some services, they are willing to stick with the company that they love and they don't care
about the price. They're not willing to switch from the brand they are used to, and I'm always
taking an example of I shave with Gillette
since I mean, I'm now 50 plus years old. I've always shaved
with Gillette. I once tried Wilkinson Swartz
and shaving with brown. But today, I continue to shave with Gillette,
so I never switched. And actually, when I go
to the grocery store, I don't care about the
price of my Gillette shave. So even if they increase
the price by 10%, I gonna be paying because I want my Gillette because I like
the quality of Gillette. So that's something that is very typical for Bluehip companies. It's very easy to observe the strength
of those companies. I just took now my
personal example of looking at Gillette. But just look at, for example, I mean, if you're flying with your
family or with your friends, what are the drinks that people typically
order on an airplane, Coca Cola, for example. And now, of course, some people will say,
Yeah, but, you know, candy Coca Cola
with sugar, I mean, they have been switching and
investing into new brands. They have been also
making sure that now Coca Cola is sugar free
and caffeine free. So they are listening to and they're making
sure that people continue buying Coca Cola
and that people consider Coca Cola to actually be a more healthy product
as it was maybe, I don't know, ten years ago with caffeine and a
lot of sugar in it. So that's an example on drinks. What are the typ drinks that
your friends and family buy, and they will not
change the brand there? What smartphones and tablets
do you use at home and that you are willing to buy and pay a premium price and next
Black Friday or Saba Monday, for example, or next holiday
season for Christmas. Of course, there,
I mean, we will speak about modes as well. But Apple, for example, I mean, if you look
at the iPhone, the iPhone is very
strong because it has created a mechanism
where it has locked in its customers and customers
I'm an iPhone user. Would not switch
for Google Android. I have everything on iPhone, and I have a mac book. I have an iPad. I have a
mini Mac, as well at home. So, I mean, I have a
consistent experience there. I mean, and you would need
really to pay me a very, very high price that I would switch away from
Apple to Samsung. So in terms of fashion,
it's the same. What I mean, I don't know
if you're a man or woman, but what is your partner
typically willing to buy? What are the brands, the fashion brands
that your partner or your friends they
speak about they love, C be Zara, could be Louis
Guitan, could be Gucci. I have no clue.
What type of pasta? Do you buy, or do your friends
or your family always buy? What other type of airline
that you typically fly, even though there may be
the switching costs are not as high as for other
products I was just mentioning? What type of mineral water
do you prefer to buy? Because you will probably, I
mean, if I take my example, we have always been drinking von when we were in Luxembourg, now we have moved since
two years to Spain, and we buy fondva and we
have tried other brands. We don't like the
taste of the water. And so we stick to fondla. We don't even look at
the price of fondla. So that's the type of thing
that makes brands strong. And because a brand is
strong, well, very typically, they are able to charge
the prices they want, of course, up to
a certain limits. Otherwise, people would really switch away from the brand. And by that they are typically. So Bluehip companies are
typically more profitable, and we will speak later on about return on invested capital, but Bluehip companies and strong brands have higher
profitability versus, I would say Lambda brands, so brands that actually you
don't care about the brand, and if you have a
cheaper option, you would actually switch
away from that brand. So so here I'm taking
the example of a Japanese castle and
to speak about moats, the term moat is a term that I've learned
from Warren Buffet. So basically, a moat is the water that
surrounds a castle. And as Warren Buffett and Chari Monga has
always been saying, we want to have a lot that runs the castle and that
tries to build a moat. So the water surrounding the castle that
becomes broader and broader so that it becomes
more and more difficult for competitors to
attack that castle. That's really the intention of having a wide moat, in fact. So that's the water distance between we say the
competitor and the castle, in fact, so the
water in between. So, I mean, run I mean, the typical question
that you could run with your family and friends to test if a company has a
mode is just ask them, how much would it
take for you to change from brand A to brand B? And would you be willing
to test a generic brand? Just observe their
emotional reaction that is sometimes
not very factual. It's the same for me for Glatt, you could try to
convince me that Wilkinson Sword has
now a fantastic shave. I'm going to say
I tried it once. I will not give it a second try. That's it. Full stop. I mean, I stick to Gillette, full stop. So I remember, for example, when I bought Richemon I will speak about my portfolio
in a couple of minutes. So when I bought Richeu, which is Swiss
luxury conglomerate, and they have amongst others, the very expensive
diamond brands like Karti and Van Cleve and
Arbelt knew Cartier, and I didn't know Van
Cleve and Apples, and I just went to my
wife and then asked her, Do you know those brands? And I saw just her eyes like, Wow, yeah, of course, those are fantastic brands. So this is the
typical, let's say, emotional reaction that people
have with strong brands. So very often, when you have that type of
emotional reaction, do you love the iPhone? Oh, yeah. Do you
love Louis Vuitan? Oh, it's fantastic brand.
Do you love Ferrari? Yeah. People porsche people don't care about the if they
have the purchasing power, they don't care
about the amount of money that they're going
to spend on those brands. And a porsche driver will not buy a Ferrari very probably. So just think about, so
that's the concept of mode. So the wider the mode, the stronger the brand, the more difficult
it is actually for competitors to attack
the castle and take over the market share of the company that is
running those brands. So actually, when I look at Blue Chip companies because I'm trying to be precise here, how do I define a company
to be a Bluehip company? Basically, I use and you
see this on the slide here, and I've been updating, of course, the slides. So this is the 2023
Interbrand top 100, and I use them just
to have a look at what are the top
100 brands that are, let's say, active in that specific g. And you
see here, I mean, in the top 25, you see Apple, Microsoft, Amazon,
Google, et cetera. And I'm not only investing, and I will repeat this
during the course. I'm not only investing into companies because they
are Blue Chip companies. There is a set of tasks
that I have to do, as we have seen in
the very beginning. Charlie Mong and
Warren Buffett say, you may love the company. The company may be
financially very sound, but maybe today you
would be paying a very high share price
for that company. Again, as value investors, what we try to do is buy fantastic companies at
cheap, undervalued prices. Okay? So remember that you
should not invest into a company because it's
a Blue Chip company because it's part
of the top 100. That's not good enough.
Now we'll repeat this all along the course. So here, so I using Interbrand. And actually, what we have been doing since November 2023, we are now May 2024. People have been
asking me about Kenny, how do you automate your
process for looking at brands and looking if they are undervalued and those
kind of things. So we have created and
there is a specific course, so it's not the
intention of the Ader Van investing to
speak about this, but there is a specific
course that is a specific tool that we have created that is
powered by open eye. That is called inch for an
investing next generation. Actually, we have so it's a custom GPT built on
top of HTGBT plus today, where, in fact, we have, let's say, fine tuned HAGPT. So that's the purpose of Vinch. So we have fine tunes, Ving, and Vinch knows the top
100 brands in the world. And Winch has information
for the last ten years. So you could actually
ask Vinch and you see here some screenshots. Many
top brands do you know? You see that Vin is
answering that it knows 100 largest
brands in the world. Can you provide me
the brand value for the top five brands, and it shows you the
top five brands, for example, for the 2023, which is the latest
one, but you could also prompt the model. Can you tell me how
has the brand value of Apple evolved over the last ten years and Wing
will give you an answer? We really try to do
with this project, which is a new project that
we launched on May 1, 2024, and I'm bringing this
now also into the course Auto value investing
is really helping and supporting investors in their
value investing process, in their value investing journey because before you had to work with Excel files and have maybe a Morningstar
subscription here, download a PDF file. So we have brought
everything together to make it much more
easier for you. There is a tool which actually carries
all the information that you will need coming out of the Auto value
investing training, so you're going to see
level one, level two, level three steps and actually, you can do this just by
using VNC as a tool instead of using an Excel file or trying to download files
and you're on your chore. So that's really the
purpose of this project. So putting that aside, there is a training on Eudami
as you can see on the left, which is called VNC, the next generation
of Vali invesing. So you can actually take
that course if you want to know and learn how to
use the model in fact. And so it's a mold that uses
artificial intelligence, in fact, just to be precise. So putting that aside, okay? So, coming back to
Blue chip companies, something that I
really care about as well is being transparent. And I update my portfolio. We are now May 2024. So I'm updating my 2024, let's say, portfolio in
the Auto Val investing. And you can see actually the type of companies that
I do have in my portfolio. So normally, I have 8-12 companies more
as in my portfolio. I never have more because
it takes time to read those financial
reports, et cetera. So when you look at the
current split and you have the pie chart on
the right hand side, you see actually that I do have, I would say, a fair
amount of companies. They don't have the same
equivalent, let's say, size of wallet in my
investment portfolio of 36 square capital. And actually, if you would
if I try to summarize, how is my portfolio structured? I mean, there are six what I really consider Blue
Chip companies. So Mercedes, the German
car manufacturer, Carrying, which is
a luxury group. So Caring owns the
brands like Gucci, Balenciaga, and those
type of brands. Porsche, again, the car
manufacturer, Christian Dior, which is the holding
company of Louis Vuitton, MoteGendo and Hennessy,
they also bought, I think Tiffany's, I
one, two years ago. I'm owning the so I'm michel of Christian
Du International, which owns actually LVMH. I have invested into Nike
and also into Nesli. I mean, Nasal, it
was in my portfolio. It went out because I
made a profit on it, and I've put it back
now actually into the portfolio since
just a couple of days, actually, as we are speaking. So those are for me,
clearly Bluehip companies, and I will show you
how that reflects in top 100 of the
brands in the world. And then have I mean, I do have three strong
brands that I believe have, I mean, if you're
interested in competition, market structures
that are having very strong market positions in their specific industries. One, which is BASF. So BASF is a German company. It's the largest chemical
group in the world. The competitor to them
would be Dow in the US. Ridea it's a Spanish company, so they own actually
the infrastructure of electricity in Spain and in other countries. Fn
case is the same. It's the incumbent
telco operator in Spain and in other countries, they have operation in the
UK in Germany, et cetera. So there, I mean,
I need to be fair, those companies do
not appear in the top 100 of the brands, for example, Interbrand, but they
have very strong modes, according to me,
and I have them. I will show you later on the performance that I have
in those companies. Also, I have two
dividend king companies that I have for a
certain period of time, like three M and Rio Tinto. So three M is what it is called mint mining and manufacturing, I think, a very well
known company in the US, and they pay dividends since
I don't know, 50 years. And Rio Tinto, which is an Australian company,
they are, I think, the second largest
company in the world, about mining and
extraction of resources. And so you see that they have, I mean, very sound financials. I mean, again, here, I'm just explaining to you very briefly, what I have in my portfolio. But I'm applying to myself everything that you will
learn in this course. That's the intention I'm sharing with you in full transparency, what I'm doing a level one,
level two, level three. And then I do have two companies that are outside of
the top 100 brands. One, which was Vanity Fair Corporation that
owns the brands, Northface Vans,
Supreme and the US. I think Dickys as well. The Stellantis,
which is a merger of PejoFat Dodge Maserati. So they do have so it's
again, a car manufacturer, and I I mean, they
were very undervalued, you're gonna sees
in the performance. So that was like an opportunity that I had on them, in fact. So if I and you see
here what I did, I took the 2023 top 100
brands in the world, and everywhere where
there is a red dot, it means that I'm
shareholder of that brand, which is part of a company. Mercedes is number seven. Nike is number nine, is 14, Chanel, which is
part of Lita is 22, Gucci is part of
Karring number 34, Porsche is number 47, Nescafe, which is part of
Nestle is 52 and 67. You see this Cartier. I had Richmon three M as well. Dire 76, Tiffany's is part of is Sephora is part
of it and Espresso, which is part of
Nestle, actually. So you see, actually, that I do have a I think
a pretty decent coverage. I had other companies in
the past, like Danna, for example, in position 78, Kellogg's in position 79. For the time being, I
was unable to buy Glatt, for example, and
Colgate Palmolive. So I would love
to buy. So that's Proced and Gamble
amongst others, and Colgate Palmolive is CP, if I remember wild the Ticker. I'd love to buy those companies, but they are too expensive. The same with Hermes. I like to invest into luxury groups, so they are in position 23. The company is just
too expensive. So it does not make sense for me to put now
money into that. I have to wait probably for
a financial crisis where the stock market
gets really crazy to be able to buy those
companies at a fair price. Remember, that's
something we learned in the introduction as well. So also being very transparent about the
performance of my portfolio, so you see on the
left hand side, the companies and the percentage
of the total portfolio, and of course, this
changes over time. So currently, I do have and we will speak about
passive income as well. But the way how I make money for family holding
is I want to have at least a little bit more than inflation covered by passive
income, which is dividends. We will cover that later
on when we speak about, I think it's in 23 lectures
when we speak about return to shareholders
because too many people, they only can make money
when they sell the assets. And I think that's
not a good strategy. And that's something
I will repeat later on the way how I make money, have two levers, two
ways of making money. I have a passive thing, and today I earn rough cut 5% after taxes every
year on my portfolio, and I don't need actually
to sell my assets. Of course, under the condition that those companies continue paying out the dividends that
they have been paying out. And, of course, if the
dividends are growing, I will earn more, of course, over time, without
doing anything. That's the beauty
of passive income. That's part of the
snowball effect. And the second way of making
money is actually when the company when the share
price gets overvalued, we will speak again
about the process. And typically, I throw
companies out when they are 15 to 20% overvalued. So when they're above
their intrinsic value, we speak about what
intrinsic valuation means in the level two test. When I'm above that threshold, then I tend to sell it out. So, you see, also, so what this portfolio
does not show is when, for example, I sold Richeu. I think I bought Richemu 57
and six months later on, I sold it like 93 or
95 plus dividends. So, of course, this
portfolio does not reflect past performance, and I know that some people
have been asking me, What is your overall
performance? Again, I try to have a overall
performance, 7% per year. If I can have 7% per year, remember the compounding effect, I will be able to
double the wealth of our family every ten years. That's the compound effect
of 7% of annual return. And I'm happy with those 7%. If I do more, it happens that
I do more, so that's it. So you see that the holding
periods for those companies, I mean, the longest
holding period that I currently
have is Tlefnica, which I have nearly
for eight years, and it has generated 17% of
dividends since I have it. So purely on capital gains. So the share price currently is still below my average
purchase price. But I don't sell because
I earn rough cut 5% after taxes every year. So, I mean, I mean, I know that today we are in a
high inflation environment, but when interest really come back at a
certain aunt in time, and inflation is at maybe 1% and interest rates
are also at 1%, 5% creates 4% four points of growth of wealth
creation above inflation. So you know that I'm looking at a 30 year period when I
look at average inflation. Oh. And you see, in fact, that I do have other companies, for example, like Stelents. I have Salentis since a little
bit more than one year, and I've bought it like 1066, and the market price on
May 6, 2024 was 2033. And even it went up to
23 24 euros per share, but I did not sell it because the intrinsic value
of the company, according to my
calculations, is higher. So even though I do have a 27% performance after one year on dividends
since I started buying it. And I do have more than
90% on capital gains. Even though this means that I multiplied by two my investment, I'm not selling the
company because it's still below its
intrinsic value. That's my choice. And I do have you can see
it here as well. I do have, for example, one
that is for the time being a, my worst performer is
Vanity Fair Corporation. They went through some trouble, so my average purchase price
is for the time being 36. So I tend from time to time to continue buying
into the company, but it's not my focus now, but you see that
I'm currently on capital gains at -65%,
which is really not great. So I'm not very happy
about that investment. At the same time. Part of that, if I would
sell those assets, which I'm not doing today
because I don't believe that the Northface vans and
Supreme will go bankrupt. So those brands, I think I have people who
like those brands. And I have generated
since I have them, which is a little bit
more than a year. So a year and a half,
I have generated 10% of dividend returns. So as long as I do not sell, I will not realize those losses. So this is little bit what I did with Telefonica, as well. So even though the share price is still below the current, so the current market price is still below my purchase price, it generates nice
returns every year, so I don't need actually
to sell those assets, in fact, because they
generate passive income. So I just want to
share this with you. I'll let you I mean, you can see that
I have Mercedes, as well, where I have 102%. I have them since five
years in my portfolio. I've bought them
45 euros a share, and they were even yesterday, I think they were at
73 euros a share. Again, I believe that they
are generating eight dot 50%. So they generate, if
I'm not mistaken, five dot two or five dot three
euros per share pre tax. So I've bought them at 45. I mean, we will speak about
this in the level one test, but they are generating
10% pretax return on dividends every year as long as they're able to
pay out those dividends. But we will speak
about that later on, showing you already bring
you a little bit of those notions here
into the context. So, yeah, that's what
I wanted to share with you about what a Blue Chip company is and also bringing in the term of
mode, or white mode. And I will make actually later on those white modes tangible. So in the level one test
that you're going to see, I will speak about return
on invested capital. Companies So Bluehip
companies tend to have high return
on invested capital. But be with me, we will
speak about this in, I think, two, three lectures. And when I will introduce
you to the level three test, which is intangible,
let's say, elements, metrics about how customers and employees feel
about the company. Typically white mode or
Blue Chip companies, they have high marketing scores. So customers love the brands, and people, the employees like working for those
companies as well. I will give you that's really
what I've allowed me to say what I tried to add on top
of Warren Buffett's method, and I'm very thankful
Warren Buffett or Warren Buffet
and Choli Mongo, what I learned from them
and Austin Benjamin Graham. But I really try to make
those modes a little bit more tangible than just
looking at RIC, for example. But I will extensively
discuss you throughout the whole training,
the AutiVal investing. So with that, thanks
for your attention and talk to you in
the next lecture. Oh
12. 5-10 years earnings consistency: Alright, next lesson in
chapter number three will be discussing the
next level one test. Remember that level
of one tests are in fact very easy to understand. Tests that do not require a
huge amount of calculation. That would be more the case
for the level to test. The next level one
test after having discussed blue chips is in
fact earnings consistency. So what is the
earnings consistent? It's very easy.
The main question that you have to ask yourself is the company being profitable
during the last ten years? And if not ten, at least five years, consecutive, a profits of the company
without a single loss. And I really mean
here, yearly profits. So for me it's acceptable. The company may have
a quarterly lost. That can happen because of seasonality, those
kind of things. But really here the intention
is that you only invest, or at least I only
invest into companies that have been printing out positive results at
least five years in a row, if not even ten. So how can you see this? There is, I mean, I'm
showing you an extract from a company on Morningstar. The test is very
unsophisticated, um, but you would be
surprised, in fact, how many companies do fail on this test and the
strong companies, and it's true, it's a little bit also the case for
blue-chip companies. And very often those companies, whatever happens in terms of
economy, even during COVID, they in fact continue
having do certain extent, more or less the same amount
of economic activity. So in terms of top-line revenue, and they're able
to have that cost on a control in
order at the end to still be able to generate profits from their operations
and even in general, to generate the profit from the overall economic activity. So as some people say, these tests may be
very unsophisticated, but it really spreads
the cone from the crop. So what I really recommend
you is that, I mean, here I give you the example of morningstar.com
extractive accompany. You can do it also, I think
on Yahoo financials is really if you're interested
in a company first test is the
company blue-chip. Second test. Does that company that you potentially want to
invest into have a track record in terms
of positive profits. So in terms of positive
results in fact, and not having
written a lot over the last at least five
years, if not ten. In fact, what happens if
there is a yearly loss? Remember we speaking about annual losses are
annual profits. Well, for me the
rule is very clear. One single annual loss
over the last five years, if not even ten years, will automatically
exclude the company from the selection process. It may sound extremely harsh, but that's really the case. And I'm very strict about this. As I said, I do accept temporary
losses on the quarter. I'll give you a very
concrete example. I currently have in 2023 events,
Vanity Fair cooperation. So VFC, which is the
holder of North Face vans, D keys, etc, premiums. Well, they had because of a change in
inventory management, they had a quarterly loss, I think two quarters ago, if I'm not mistaken, and that's really
acceptable for me. But I want the company to be
able to print out money from their operations
every single year for many years consecutively. That's really a very
strict test that apply to the
investments that I do. Here. I mean, let's, let's
practice a little bit. So here you have an
example of a company. I don't remember
which company it was with a certain
business revenue. What I want you to comment
here is the revenue evolution versus the net income available to common
shareholders evolution. And do you see any
kind of risks? So I will just very rapidly
walk you through the numbers. So you see that 2014-2020. So the company had like 2,789 billion, 28 dot 1,000,000,027, 25, that's 72825,
that's 7.25 or three. So that's the business revenue for the last, let's
say 20142000-20. And you see at the bottom, in fact, you can use a
pre-tax income if you want. You see it here
in the red frame. You can see that the
pre-tax income has been to 29 to 3916 to
809-51-5011, 42.0 73. So what I want you
to do is to comment, to think about how do you
compare the evolution of business revenue
with a pre-tax income? So when you have done that, some maybe pause the video
here and then resume. And when you resume, you will hear me in fact give the explanation how I
would look into this. Alright, so if you
have looked into and you have competitive
business revenue versus the pre-tax income. As an example, you
could have also used. The net income from
continuing operations and net income available to
common stockholders. What you see in fact is that the business revenue has
decreased more or less. There is a tendency to
decrease by around 10%. So rough cut from 28
billion to around 25. So they lost like 2
billion of revenues. It's like seven to ten per cent reduction in
business revenue. Does that mean something? Well, it depends. I mean, it could be that the
company has sold off part of its business
to a competitor, e.g. so it's normal in such situation of the business
revenue would go down. What is more
interesting is when you look at the net income available to common stockholders or
even the pre-tax income, the tenancy is the same. You see in fact
that there there is an issue on the cost side of the company from
what it looks like. You see in fact that
the proportion, so let's say the minus seven
to ten per cent decrease in business revenue is in fact stronger on the net income
or the pre-tax income. The company. To make it simpler
in 2000, 14,015, making a 28 billion of revenues was printing more or less. The net income to
common stockholders, 1409153, so
one-and-a-half billion. And you see now in fact that the revenue
tendency going down, but the profitability, in fact, it's decreasing at a faster pace from compared to the
business revenue. So that's the kind
of thing that you need to understand in such situation where
you need to be careful. We will discuss value
traps later on. But it could be, That's one of the signals that it could be a valued traps. So the profits are still there, but the business
revenue is decreasing and the net income is
decreasing as well. If there is no good explanation
of the company has sold part of its assets
and it does not have, or at least not reducing,
optimizing its cost. This could be potentially a value trap because there are certain point
in time the company will no longer be able
to remain profitable if the business revenue
continues to go down in fact, so be attentive to
those kind of things. Alright, that was
already everything for the earnings consistency,
pretty short lesson. But remember, as I
mean, in a nutshell, their earnings consistent
is really about the test set you have
to do is the company I want to invest into
hasn't been making profits over the last
ten years consecutively, or at least the last five years. If that is not the case, I would read a refrain from
investing into it, right? Our next lesson will be about
price to earnings ratio, which is a very common
ratio that a lot of even traders actually use. But as we will see, it's not just about, you should not use
shall nots in fact, make one single
investment decision just based on one single ratio. So it's a combination
of a lot of things and that's why I'm showing
you here with level one, level two, level three tests. So level one other
fundamental tasks. Level two is more like
calibrating the intrinsic value, knowing your margin of safety. And level three will be about the modes and how to make
them mowed more tangible. So, talk to you in the next lecture about the price to earnings ratio. Thank you.
13. Low Price to Earnings ratio (P/E): Alright, so we're still
in Chapter number three. We are. And I'm walking you
through the level one fundamental test or
screens that you have to do. At least I'm showing you
how I look at those tasks and various ratios attributes of the companies I
want to invest into. So just as a quick rehearsal, the first test in level number one
fundamental screens is the company blue-chip. The second one is
the company making profits for five
consecutive years, if not ten, at least. The third test that we will be discussing now is
very common in fact, ratio that is being
used overuse in fact, which is a price to earnings. And I promise you, a lot of people put huge
amounts of money just because the price earnings
ratio appears very good, very, let's say cheap. In fact, the price to
earnings ratio will give you, let's say a signal. It's one of the many signals, will give you a signal
if the share price of a company versus its
earnings is cheap or not. But you need to pay attention. It's as, and I will
repeat this all the time. It's not because one ratio
appears very green, very good. And this one is one
where too many people, just by having a very low
price to earnings ratio, put a lot of money
into investment. It has to be combination
of multiple things. So let's go into the
price to earnings. So abbreviated as
you have understood, it's called the PE ratio, price to earnings ratio. And it's a measure in fact, that calculates the share price relative to the
annual net income that is earned by the company. And this on a
per-share perspective. So the formula, in fact,
it's pretty straightforward. The price to earnings
ratio is calculated. You take the current
share price and you divide it by the
earnings per share. If you don't know
the earnings per share, this may happen. You can also calculate
the price to earnings ratio by taking the share price, dividing it by the
total earnings divided by the total amount
of, remember, use the diluted
amount of shares, which is the higher
number nominee. Because if you remember,
diluted amount of shares, outstanding, shares includes all
potential stock options that will be printed
in the future. So this is how you
calculate actually the PE, you're going to see
a lot of websites, financial websites,
they present this, they precalculate this for you. If you go in Yahoo
and Morningstar, etc. On Phineas, you will
find those ratios. But if you do not know, and if you want to calculate
it yourself, you will see, of course, in the
actual file that of course I'm calculating
this as well. But you need to put
in the share price and then the earnings per
share or the share price divided by the total
earnings divided by the total amount of diluted
outstanding shares, right? One of the things that a lot
of people actually do not realize is how to interpret
the price to earnings ratio. So in fact, you have to think that we are
dividing annual earnings. So let's use the latest
annual earnings. So it is giving us a ratio based and we're dividing
by an annual numbers. So the current share price divided by an
annual number, e.g. the annual earnings per share. So actually, what does it mean? How shall you interpret the PE? In fact, as an investor,
you are buying. So this ratio There's multiple, is telling you how many years of earnings that you
are buying in fact. So I'll make it simple. If you have a price to
earnings ratio of ten, it means that the current
share price is in fact ten times higher than
the latest annual earnings. So you are buying the
company with a multiple of ten times its
current earnings. Alright? So P examples could be, I've taken the exams
like Amazon P. I don't know exactly
where it stands now, but it has always been extremely high at something around 80 e.g. very probably towns come
down now since 2020, 1022. So maybe we are here at
the price earnings of 60. We will discuss Amazon
electron rich small when I bought it was at
the PE of around ten. So I was buying in fact, I think it was at the
stock price of CHf57. I was buying a really
small conglomerates at ten times its
annual earnings. So let's continue the interpretation and
what does that mean? It means that if I'm
buying a company, adds ten times its earnings. If I keep the company and if the earnings remain
constant and I keep the company more than ten years, having bought at a price
to earnings of ten years. In fact, after 11 years, I've seen the whole amount
of investments back. In fact, that's
basically what it means. So my personal investment style and I'm going to put
here rule into place is I tend not to buy companies that have price
to earnings ratio above 15. And I like to buy
companies that have even price to earnings
ratios below ten. In fact. So of course you
need to be aware of value traps because just
looking at one single ratio, it may be at the price. Earnings is extremely
low because the market has already reflected a low
price on current earnings, but the market is
seeing a decrease, e.g. that will happen in the future. So that's the kind of
thing that of course, that's why we're
investing isn't odd because there is
judgment required. But if the company
revenues are growing, if profitability remain sounds and you have a price to earnings
ratio that is below 15. Their chances in fact that the market is the
present about the company. And potentially it's a, it's a bargain, so it's
nice opportunity to buy. So that's the kind of thing
that you have to think about. So again, the formulas price to earnings is share price
divided by earnings per share. But if you don't know
the earnings per share, EPS is just called. You can, for the
price to earnings, you can take the
share price divided by the total earnings. And the total earnings in
probably billion US dollars, million US dollars or euros
or whatever the currency is, divided by the total amount
of outstanding shares. Remember to take the diluted
one which is the bigger one. So if e.g. the share price is at $100 and the earnings
per share are at $10. You will have a PE of ten. You're going to be
buying $100 per share. If you would buy today, you wouldn't be buying ten times the latest annual earnings of ten years dollar per share. This is what it means. Okay? So of course, the conversation
is how predictable is the amount of years of
earnings that you are buying. And of course, this
is something that you have to take into
account depending on your investment horizon. So of course, if you're buying
a company and we're going to go into the example
of Amazon as well. If you're buying a number, just putting a theoretical example, if you're buying a company with the price earnings ratio of 100, means that the company
you are buying today, 100 years of earnings
of that company. Of course, some growth
investors will say, Yeah, but you know Canny, now
this earnings are small. You're going to see
that the company will really grow at an
exponential rate. So the current earnings
have to be corrected back. So maybe you are
buying, I don't know, 50 years, maybe 35 years. But I simply that buying
a price earnings of 100 and that even growth
investors would tell me, yeah, I have a crystal ball and you're going to see
the earnings grow a lot. That's what a lot of people
have been thinking about. Amazon with all due
respect for Amazon, we are going to be discussing
this in a couple of slides. In fact, That's a risk. In fact, that's speculation. So that's the kind of
thing where you need to be attentive, is like, do you really feel
comfortable buying so many years of
current earnings, even if you would add growth assumptions
to those earnings. But again, for me, having a growth assumption of 25% for the next 25 years,
that doesn't exist. And just look back at history. And history has always been
right about those things. So assets PE, below 15, even better below ten. Well, that would pass this test. But again, remember that I'm not investing based on
one single task. It's a combination
of all the towns I'm sharing here with you. We have is the
blue-chip company, is their earnings consistency is currently the market
price of the company. Cheap. So with giving me at a 50 into ten times its
current annual earnings. Why I'm giving you another
reason why I don't like to buy companies
that have price to earnings ratio of 100s, of 50 or even 35. There is one statistic which
is not discussed a lot. In fact, by investors, which is the average. I'm a lifespan of
companies on the S&P 500. And there has been a thing, It's Professor Foster from, I think it's the New
York University. There has been doing an analysis and has been showing that
over the last century, the lifespan of companies
and big companies in the S&P 500 has in fact been decreasing
very, very strongly. So likely decade ago, you had companies
like in the 1920s, 1930s, accompanies had an
average lifespan of rial. It's probably like 90 years, 80 years if they were listed on the Dow
Jones or the S&P 500. Now we see over the
last year is that this has come down to
like 15 to 20 years. So it means that you
have a very high chance. And if you look at in
the last 15 years, 52% of the S&P 500
companies have disappeared. If you're buying a company
with a PE ratio of 30. So you're buying 30
years of earnings. You're buying two
of those companies with similar price
earnings ratio, there's going to be very probably one of
those companies that it will have this appeared
in the next 15 years, but you have just bought
30 years of earnings, but after 15 years the company
disappeared, disappears. How do you think that you
will get your money back? Sorry, that doesn't
work except if somebody has acquired a company
with a premium price. But that's the reality. So that's why I believe
that also taking into account the price to earnings
below 15, below ten. Not only is this
something that I learned from Benjamin Graham
and Warren Buffett, what is what it means
to buy company at a cheap price versus
its earnings. But also, I think it's
in line with what Professor Foster from
New York University has been in fact, studying, which is that the
average lifespan of company has come down to 15 to 20
years, maximum in average. And we're speaking
here about SAP 500 companies which have
huge amounts of capital. They can easily raise
money from the market. But at the very end of the day, it appears that
even though with, even though they have firepower, they have strong brands that
still after 15 to 20 years, half of the companies in the SAP for foreign,
they have disappeared. Alright, let's go to
the example of Amazon. So you remember that I'm currently re-recording
this training. We are April 2023. So the first time the
training was published was August 2020 as I've been starting to write
this because in 2019, what I've updated here
is the following. So discussing about
Amazon because Amazon has always been considered
as a growth stock. You see on the bottom left, I extracted the financial ratios at that time from Morningstar. So you see they are
dated March 31, 2020 when I was preparing
and writing the course. And on the right-hand side you
have the latest one as Q1. 23 is not out yet. We have the December 31st, 1022 in fact ratios. What is very interesting
is that you see, and I can share
that at that time, the current price to
earnings ratio of Amazon was at 119 times the current
yearly earnings, which is absolutely
huge if you would look today in 2023 based
on the latest, let's say based on
latest figures. In fact, even Amazon had
the negative earnings, which was a little
bit, Let's say, complicated for them to explain. And of course, if you
have negative earnings, how do you calculate
price to earnings? Price to earnings will
be negative in fact. But over the last
couple of years at price to earnings has come down. And in 2022, e.g. and the price to earnings went down 119-76, approximately. So you see that there has been a correction on the stock of Amazon and Amazon has
not been able to grow, let's say the growth expectation that all those growth
investors hats. So imagine that you would buy, let's say, based on
the 2022 figures, 76 times its yearly earnings or even 2020
you would have bought at was what I was discussing
because you would have bought at 119 years of earnings, even if the company
would grow like crazy, you would still buy
four years of earnings. Don't you think that you
would have overpaid for that? Do you remember what Charlie Munger was saying in
the BBC interview in 2012 that there may be
great companies out there where all the
tests are ticked off. But maybe at the moment that
you have cash available, they're really too expensive. And Charlie Munger
was saying, I mean, even if the company
is fantastic, It's not worth an
infinite price. And with all due
respect to Amazon, I believe that in 2020, the company was really, really overrated and that's why you still had
people that were buying the company and the price to
earnings ratio of 119 years. So the price that
you will paint was 119 years of its latest
annual earnings. I mean, just think a
second about that. That's just huge. Some people will say,
but I'm okay with that. I would say, well, I'm happy for you if
you're okay with that. I believe it's really,
really extremely high. And that's for me really in
the area of speculation. I could I mean, you would tell
me I'm buying the company the price to earnings of 17 because their earnings
will grow in the future. So basically if I adjust the
earnings for the future, it will not be 17, may be 12, So it's
cheap, I would say. Okay, you are close to the 1510. I don't understand. Understand the
average lifespan of a companies blue-chip company. Maybe the company is around for 60 years, has strong brands, strong pricing power, has even strong
earnings consistency. Okay, Understand. Got it. But here, it's not
the case for Amazon. And you see on the
right-hand side. So the price to
earnings today in Morningstar is in
fact not showing anything because in 2022 they printed a
lawsuit has in fact been negative earnings
here for Amazon. So just again, here history
again, repeat itself. Buying company at 119 times, its earnings is really
for me speculation. That's what I want to
share here with you. Alright. One of the conversations as
well that people are asking me is about what about permanent versus non-permanent
stock positions? You may remember in one of the previous lessons I
was sharing with you, my investment portfolio and specifically the holding period. And again, you can see
this very transparently on the 36 squared
capital.com website. And if you listened
to Warren Buffet, he has always been
saying by companies, and you want to
keep them forever. And even if the market
would be shut down, you would still have faith that the company would
still be around after the market comes back in fact and it becomes
operational again. The reality to me, very fair with Warren Buffet or at least with
Berkshire Hathaway. It's mixed bag. I mean, if I take the latest investment, that's Berkshire Hathaway did
on Taiwan semiconductors. I think the after one-quarter, they have been throwing
out the company. What was the reason why? Maybe I mean, of course, with the firepower that
Berkshire Hathaway has, when they buy a stock automatically the
stock will go up so they're able to push by themselves through their
purchasing decisions. Stock market prices up, which is obviously
not the case when I'm purchasing a company. But it's true that's the
attitude that you need to have. You remember we discussed about patients is that
when you have done all your tests and all
the tests appear goods. While you need to
think that if you bind with a margin of
safety of 25 to 30%, maybe it, maybe you want to
keep that company forever. And think about consumer
defensive brands like Danone and Nestle, Procter and Gamble,
Colgate-Palmolive. And again, later on in
the training share with you when is the right
moments to sell? And again, I will
already share a chair, already said in one of
the previous lectures, of course one, the market is overvaluing the
company by too much. Well, for me that
would be signal maybe to sell and to taking the profits even though I liked the company would like to keep it forever in my portfolio. On the other hand,
with all due respect for and buffer as well, and to be fair
towards him, I mean, he has positions like Coca-Cola
that he has for probably like more than a decade in his portfolio with 400
million of shares. So as I said, it's a mixed bag,
foreign buffets. Just keep in mind that indeed the attitude
that you need to have per default is that when you buy a company that you would
love to keep the company, because you're buying
at the price earnings of maybe 151010 times its annual earnings that
you're thinking about keeping the company at least for the amount of years
that you are buying, the price earnings ratio. So if the PE is 15, are you feeling comfortable
keeping the company for 15 years at current
earnings until the market than
potentially shows the real value of
the company through its share price, right? That's basically what
I wanted to say here about the PE ratios. One last thing before
wrapping up is looking at there is also a PE
ratio for the market, which is, you have one which
is called the SAP 500 PE. I've put you the URL, and some people call it also the Schiller ratio
doesn't matter. But if you look here, there is, there is some, there is a say around
this ratio that if the market ratio is around 15, you can expect an annual six to seven per
cent return every year. In fact, just because the
overall market ratio is low. And you see on the
left-hand side, of course we had
the tech bubble, we had the pre subprime crisis, let's say economical environment
that was extremely hot. I mean, P ratios, they go up and down,
they fluctuate. And that's why I'm saying
if you are buying, if you don't want to be a
stock picker juice want to buy an index by the S&P 500 ratio when it is low because you will see written
on this and this is basically what
I'm showing you here on the right-hand side. In average, when the
PE ratio is below 15, you will for sure gain at
least six or 7% every year. But of course, you need to be
patient because not all the times the market average ratio. If if let's consider the S&P 500 would be for the US average, market ratio will be below 15. So you need at a
certain point in time, maybe just to wait until really there's a
crisis situation. That's why there is
an attribute called patient's in the mindset of
value investors as well. Alright, so let's wrap
up here this third test. So we have been discussing, is the company
blue-chip company? Yes. No. Does the company have earned consistency at
least for the last five, if not ten years? Yes. No. Is the price to earnings
ratio below 15 or below ten, okay, so those are
the first three tasks that you have to go through. Next task will be the
return to shareholders. Because if you remember, I said in the introduction, while we will be
sitting on our money, we need to be patient
because maybe it will take some
time until the market realizes the real value of the company that
we have invested into that we were able to
buy cheap during that time. We want to have a return to
shareholders and this is what we will be discussing
in the next lesson. So talk to you in the next one. Thank you.
14. Return to shareholders : dividends, buybacks & payout ratio: Welcome back investors. We're still in
Chapter number three, which is the first chapter
we have been discussing various tests as well invested
that you have to know. So if you recall very quickly, we have discussed first task
is accompany blue-chip. Second task is their
earnings consistency if after ten years in a row, third test is having a low price to earnings
ratio below 15, below ten. That's at least what I recommend you to do on the
first three tasks. The fourth one is returned to show us what we will
be discussing now. And so whenever we are
discussing returns shallows, we're going to see
various types of returns to shareholders and
how they affect in fact, the, if it is the book price of the share
price of the company. So first things first, let's just very
quickly come back to the value creation
cycle that we had when we were discussing
what happens with capital. Capital comes in with some
cost of capital expectations. The capitalists invest
in real assets. We hope that the
company would generate profits from its assets. And then basically if it is senior management
and all the board of directors and shareholders, depending on, let's say, the delegation approvals
that exist in the company. The company has in fact, four options if profits
have been generated, either reinvesting into
assets or paying off debt and all paying off debts and are providing a
return to shareholders. And this is what we
will be discussing. In fact, we will mainly be focusing on the flow number six, which is a remunerated
shareholders, by either providing dividends
to the shareholders, are increasing the book value of the company by executing
share buybacks. But let's go into it. So the first thing I did not mention it
for the time being when I was discussing how does management or the board of directors or share,
Let's take a decision. 45-6 are just a couple
of lessons ago, mentioned that, well, I mean, it could be that 60%
of the profits are allocated to buying new assets, buying a competitor,
going into new markets, flowing into research
and development to develop new
products and services. And maybe 20% is
going to paying off debt and 20% is going
to shareholders. But there is one element
I have to add here, which is not directly
linked to value investing, but you have to understand
it in the context of company management and strategic capital
allocation decisions. Which is in fact, if you recall, I introduced the term return when I was discussing
the investor's dilemma. If you recall the
investor, he or she, the dilemma that the person has is there are a lot of
investment classes, investment vehicles that the
investor can invest into. And of course, the written has to be
higher than inflation, has to be risk-adjusted. If you remember what we were discussing a couple
of lessons ago. So the decision, in fact, if you look at the flows 45.6, that will be taken will be on Fiverr to be
very precise, on five, if the company has promised a yearly coupon to
the credit holders, the company will
not have a choice, but the company
could potentially accelerate paying off debts. How will it take the decision? How will it take the decision going into flow number four, and we're investing
to the company or potentially are going
to flow number six, which is giving the cash
back to the shareholders. It's, it's the concept of cost of capital
that I introduced. This is what is called
the hurdle rate. So basically the
company has a couple of choices that you
have understood, 45.6. And in fact, with
every opportunity, if you look at for basically you're going into
a business plan. Management will promise a
certain written by e.g. acquiring a competitor. It means that, that
promise of acquiring a competitor comes with a
cost of capital expectations. And management has to
make sure that the written is above the
cost of capital. This is what is called
the hurdle rate. The same except of the annual committed
repayments of depth. So the coupon that has to go
back to the credit holders. So the company could decide to liquidate the depth in
an accelerated way, instead of waiting
ten years, e.g. of five years remaining to
pay off the debt holders. Again, this would be interesting thing to
do if the company does not have a better investment
opportunity either in four, in the front number four
and flow number six, when does the company, when is the best option
for the company to provide a return
to shareholders? Well, when there is no good opportunity
on reinvesting into real assets and potentially accelerating the
paying of the depth. So 4.5, in fact carry a lower, let's say return versus six. So to make it simple is
you have really to think that the flows 45.6 will
depend on the return, on the cost of
capital expectations of the company and
companies management. So if I now give you an example, if the company is a growth
company or startup, why are those companies not providing remuneration
to shareholders? Because in fact,
for shareholders, the return on invested
capital, the return. On the capital that it will be invested into
the flow number four, which is a buying new assets wouldn't be in fact much
higher in the future. The now providing e.g. a. Cash dividends to investors. That's a strategic capital allocation decision
that companies are in fact taking for very mature companies,
it's the other way around. I mean, if the
company is present in all markets and it
doesn't make sense, there is no opportunity to buy a competitor or even
buying the competitor. The efficiencies that
will come out from merging both operations
together will provide a lower return on
capital invested versus e.g. paying of depth and compare
it to the hurdle rate. Well then maybe the
company is better off and the shareholders
will be happy. Because otherwise, if
buying a competitor, the written is below
this hurdle rate, the company is in fact
destroying wealth. So it's better than to provide a written to
the shareholders, e.g. that's the kind of thing
that you have to think where senior management CEO CXOs was typically it's a CEO
and CFO conversation. This strategic capital
allocation recommendation that is then submitted to
the board of directors, that is then
potentially submitted to the shareholders for votes during the annual
shareholder meeting. The typical returns
that company have is indeed to provide. So to have those flows 45.6. But just keep in mind
that the decision, one of the strong elements
that will come into the equation into the decision
process of going for, for R5 and R6 is really
this hurdle rate. So I hope that this is clear. Alright, so now we're going
to be in this lesson focusing purely on the return
to shareholders. So remunerated
shareholders because the return on capital
invested in flows 4.5, in fact, do not make sense. And actually the company
would be destroying, let's say, value to
its shareholders. And the company
says, we will not acquire an, a competitor, e.g. if we think about
flow number four, we will not expand into new market or develop new
products because we don't have a good business
plan and we believe that we will not be able to grow and to generate the
profits from those assets. So with that, I mean,
the shareholders, you need to understand
that we prefer an effect to give you money
back and you do with that money,
whatever you want. So that would be an
outflow of money from the company's balance
sheet to the shareholders. And I will be
discussing this now. Why don't we discuss
return to shareholders? I mean, inflow number six
are always mentioned. It's a cash return
to shareholders, but there are various ways of doing returns to shareholders. And I'm only speaking here about equity returns to shareholders. So there's going to
be in fact three. The most common ones are cash dividends and
share buybacks. And we will discuss scrip
dividends very, very quickly, but scrip dividends
is not something that is very, let's say common. They do exist. I mean, it happened to me
as well on Telefonica e.g. which is still one
of my holdings after more than six years. There are certain moment
in time actually, Telefonica was providing
scrip dividends, but let's focus on cash
dividends and share buybacks. What has happened as
well over the last, let's say two decades. And you have here a graph
from Standard and Poor's. You see in fact that the amount of dividends has
steadily been growing, while the amount of share buybacks has
in fact accelerate. And then today,
companies on the SAP 500 are actually doing
more share buybacks versus paying out
cash dividends. The reason for that is, in fact tax reasons. I will explain to
you how it works. So you have those two vehicles, one vehicle which is providing
a cash dividend to I mean, to you as a shareholder, to me as a shoulder and you're
going to see an inflow of cash after-tax is to
your bank account. So imagine that the company is paying out the gross
cash dividend of $1 depending on where
you are sitting. You I mean, the company
will all your broker will remove very probably the taxes from the gross cash dividends. And you will then see
on your bank account, you're going to see
the net cash dividend flowing in at a certain
moment in time. And it would be e.g.
in this example, if the gross cash
dividend was $1, you're going to see one minus the tax rate that
you are exposed to. The share buyback is
the other way around. In fact, the first
thing is you will not see any money flowing
into your bank account, into your broker accounts. So what is happening is in fact, is that the company is
employing cash that is sitting in its balance sheet to buy
back shares from the market. The effect that you
will have is you will see in fact the book value. And I will explain
this later on. I will start first with a
cash dividend explanations, but you're going to see
the book value increase. And normally, except if we
are in a depressed market, but you're going to see as well the market share price that will adapt an increase when
executing share buybacks. So it's the very end of the day. It's interesting
because in fact, if you have bought a
company at a share price of $100 and the company is
being shared buybacks. And because of that, your share price is
going up to $105. You just have. Earned a capital gain
of $5 per share. We will be discussing
share buybacks later on. So let's start first
with the cash dividends. So remember that when we're
looking at those effects, you need always to keep in
mind simplified balance sheet. So remember that
on the right-hand side of the balance
sheet you have the sources of capital
which are adept or equity. And on the left-hand side is the employment of capital
that is typically represented by tangible assets like property, plant
and equipment. So that's buildings, trucks, airplanes, office space,
manufacturing plants, and intangible assets,
which is like trademarks, intellectual property brands, those kind of things. Alright. One supplemental concept that we have to introduce
here when we will be discussing and practicing returned
to shareholders. And we'll start first
with cash dividends is the concept of basic
versus diluted shares. I was already mentioned in
a couple of lessons ago, but I want to hear very
precisely mentioned what's the difference between basic shares outstanding and
diluted shares outstanding? If you recall what I said, basic shares out
the total amount of basic shares outstanding
and we are continuing that we only have one
class of share is in fact the number of
common shares that you could buy on the market, and that would represent 100% of the total amount of
shares outstanding. The diluted amount of shares
is in fact the basic shares, but you add to the basic shares potentially outstanding stock
options that the company has been promising,
e.g. to employees. And those, let's say
stock options are in fact can I say being vested and maybe they're
investing over five years. So the diluted actually calculates a higher
number versus basic. So it's already showing
in the future what will be the total amount
of shares outstanding, including those effects of stock options warrants even
convertible depth, e.g. you have those hybrid adept
instruments where e.g. a. Shareholder is providing a loan as adapts to the company and the shareholder has at
his or her full discretion, the opportunity to
transform that, the amount of depth
or the amount of dip remaining into a
shares for examples, that would in fact increase
when that would happen. That would increase
the amount of shares. So it's always better when we will be doing the calculations, you should always use
the total amount of diluted shares versus
the basic charts because the diluted
one is higher. So we're going to have
a higher denominator. Alright? So we'd have to bring in a
couple of formulas here. So the first one, as we're
discussing, in fact, return to shareholders
and we will starting with cash dividends. So I need to bring
into formulas. The first one is
dividend per share. So in order to calculate the dividend per share,
you would take in fact, the total amount of money
that has been paid out to shareholders and
you divide it by the total number of
shares outstanding, diluted, always take
the diluted one, it will always be
the bigger one. We will be practicing this on the McDonald's
financial statements. Then as well as
second concept or formula that we
have to bring in. Because of course and
settlement in time, we want to see what is
our return on our money. In fact, that we have
invested by buying shares of that company is what is
called the dividend yields. And that's a value that is expressed not in currency
but in percentage. In order to calculate this, you calculate the dividend
per share divided by the share price is or the share price when
you bought the company. Or the share price,
if you would think, or the current share price if you're thinking of
buying the company. In fact now, e.g. from the New York Stock Exchange or European Stock Exchange. Just to give that as an example. And of course, dividend per
share can be substituted by the formula total amount paid out in terms
of cash dividends, divided by the total amount of shares outstanding, diluted. And you're dividing them that by either your purchase share price or the current
share price, depending if you're
looking at historical, let's say purchase
that you did or you're thinking about by now. In fact, very quick
comments here. That's why I added awesome
dividend tax rates graph on the right-hand side. So remember that
when you're doing your calculations in
terms of dividends yield, which is kind of a return, a passive written that
you are getting from a company that per
default the company. When you will be doing
the calculation, you will be calculating
this pretax. And of course this will
be country-specific. You may have countries
whether amount of taxation on
dividends is extremely high and you have other
countries where maybe the amount of dividends or taxes
on dividends is low, then of course it
depends as well. If e.g. if you're buying a company that has
headquartered in the US, and you are living
in Spain, e.g. and Spain and the US do not
have a double tax treaty. You will be taxed twice. So that is what is called
the DTT double tax treaties. If the country has, I mean, if those two countries, so the country of who is issuing dividends and the country
where you are residing, they do have a
double tax treaty. You shall only pay once
an amount of taxes. That's why those double
tax treaties exist. In fact, mine personal
investments start as well. I briefly mentioned it a
couple of lessons ago, is I really want to
have at least 4% per year after taxes on dividends. Of course, I need to calculate
my pre-tax exposure. And currently and I shared
this a couple of lessons ago when I was sharing my
current portfolio, I do earn a6.02 percent after-tax per year in terms
of dividends is of course, with the assumption
that the companies are not stopping paying
out cash dividends. And then we'll explain to you
afterwards one of the test, which is the payout ratio, how you can I have
a better level of assurance that the
company will still have the opportunity to continue paying out dividends
in the future. That's a very important
test to do as well. Alright, so let's
practice a little bit. So here I've extracted the income statement
and the cash flow statement of McDonald's. And this is the
fiscal year 2016. I have not used the balance sheets here
because we don't need it. So what I want you
to do is a couple of things from what
we just learned. The first thing is I want you to spot the number of shares. And of course I want you
to spot the amount of total shares diluted in one
of those two statements. And I want also you to spot the, which is our flow number six, if you remember in the
value creation cycle, I want you to spot the amount
of dividends that have been paid out to regular shower or so to come and shareholders. I want you to do a
manual calculation of the dividend per share. And I want you to make a minor calculation of
the dividend yields. So for the dividend yields
and what you will need, of course, you will need to
know the current share price. So use for the time being as an assumption that
the share price of McDonald's is sitting
at $186 dots $0.10. So that's the assumption
that you can use for your calculation when
you are ready to, I mean, stop here, look at the financial
statements. So the cashflow
statement and the income statements and spots
asset the diluted the total amount of shares and total amounts so
that flow number six, how much stock dividends
have to be paid out? So of course you have to think and you have to read the lines. I mean, the information is on those two financial statements. You have to look at
the income statement, the cashflow statements, and try to find out, I want you to practice
your eye, as I said, on looking into
financial statements. Alright, posterior, because I will now when
you will be resuming, I will give the
explanation, of course. Alright, so I will
be resuming now. So when you look
at the McDonald's income statement at
the very bottom, and this is something
that happens very often. Not always, but I
would say 95% of the companies at the bottom of the income statement
they provide with the earnings per share, basic and diluted,
and below that, very often they provide the
total amount of number of shares that are outstanding
basic and the diluted one. So you see in fact,
for McDonald's, we are speaking about 2016
at the amount of shares, total amount of
shares diluted was 861 dot 2 million of shares. On the second question, which was the total amount of dividends paid out to
common shareholders. That's an outflow of cash. It's a financing. If remember the three
sections of the cash flows, the operating, non-operating
thing, is it investing? Know that's flow
number four here. Flows number 5.6,
if you remember, they are sitting in
the financing activity or section of the
cashflow statements. So you see in fact, when you look at bullet point number two, that the company has been
paying out a little bit more than $3 billion of
common stock dividends. And you also see, in fact the line above, which is called treasury
stock purchases. That's the share buybacks. Oh, they did 11 billion, 171 million of share
buybacks in 2016. So those are the two
numbers that you, in fact, what you have to spot on
the first two questions when you do a manual
dividend calculation. So again, we are making a dividend calculation
per share pre-tax. So in fact you take the number. So common stock dividends paid out 3,000,000,058, dots two, and you divide it by
the bigger number, which is diluted total amount
of shares outstanding. So you actually divide,
use the formula here, 3058 dots 2/861 dots 2 million. So always of course be attentive that you
use the same units. So we are dividing
millions by millions. And this will give
us a three to $5 of cash dividends pre-tax per
share in the year 2016. So I just want to, very quickly, you can
read it for yourself, but just to show you the effect of using the wrong number, which would be the basic number instead of the diluted one. You see that is,
it will generate a three-center difference
between the two because you are dividing by a smaller number, so it would be $358 on 355. Does it change the world? No, it's not. It would be a smaller mistake. But still, if you want
to be on the safe side, if you don't want
to be defensive, always take the bigger number, which is normally
the diluted one as it adds to the basic number, the amount of, let's say
promises in terms of vesting. I've stock options warrants and even potentially convertible
debt that has been added. Alright, so now continuing
the calculation, we are calculating
the dividend yield. That was something I
was asking you as well. So of course, if you
have generated over, the company has paid out a three dot 55 years dollar per share pretax cash dividend 1016. You divide that number by
the current share price because we are thinking here, we're taking the assumption that we are thinking
about potentially buying into McDonald's
at that moment in time. So that will provide
us a one dot 90 per cent dividend yields
on the price of $186.10. Is that great? Well, it's not nothing. But first of all, it's pretax. And you remember your written
has to be above inflation. If at that moment in time inflation is sitting
at three per cent, you are destroying wealth. So it's maybe that's
why I've put it in red. That's not maybe the
best thing to do. And this is why just coming
back to what I said, this is why I'm always
thinking about having at least a 4% after-tax
return because I believe that long-term
inflation will not be above that four per cent. Remember monetary policy of the US Federal Reserve and
European Central Bank, that should be long-term,
mid-term at 2%. Alright? So that's one thing how you can calculate the dividend cash. So the cash dividends
per share pretax, and then the dividend yield. And you have to think about
what's the written that I'm getting versus
my cost of capital? Alright? One of the things, one supplemental task
that you have to do, and you will have this
in the Excel file, which will be pre-calculus, pre calculating it
for you as well, is in fact what is
called the payout ratio. So the payout ratio is in fact, is there a margin of safety
not on the share price, but really about what
is the safety that the company has to
continuing ping out the cash dividend
in the future. And so the payout ratio in
fact goes the following. You take in fact
the total amount of dividends that
have been paid out. So not per share, but really the total amount in the currency for McDonald's was a little bit more
than $3 billion. And you divided by
the total net income. And this will calculate
that the payout ratio. In the case of McDonald's, in fact, the payout
ratio was 65%. So what does it mean? If I go back to the flows 45.6, it means that from the profits generated and if you take
the flow number three, number three is telling us the company has
generated for dot $686.5 billion of
profits from its assets. So 65% of that profit will be in fact allocated to
the flow number six. So 3-665% is being allocated to the return
to shareholders. It's, it's not very complicated, it's just common sense, but you need to understand
how to read this. The 65%, and I will
share with you, what is my honest
feeling about it? 65 per cent for me is a mature. We are speaking about
blue-chip companies where the expectations are
written off capital R, Let's say fair. So in that sense, 65% is fair. So I consider that. And this is part of my tests. First of all, I want to have a more than four per cent
dividend yield per year. But at the same time,
or I could say, and at the same time, I want to have a dividend
payout that is sitting 30-70%. Why? Because I believe that if
the company is providing less than 30% to shareholders, for me, at least as
a value investor. I believe that I'm not getting enough return from the
profits from the company. And if it is above 70%, what could happen is that the
company will not be able. I mean, it would require just a small
fluctuation in profits. So in net income that
the company would no longer be able to pay
out its cash dividends. So that's why I believe
that having also here, a margin of safety is
also something goods. And of course, we don't want
companies to raise dept, I mean, let's be very clear. That would be totally
unacceptable. That management would raise depth to pay out
a cash dividend. That's just crazy. So that's the kind of thing, of course, that you have
to pay attention to. But the tests are very clear. You need to have some
kind of cash return. For me, it's more
than 4% after taxes. And I want to make sure that
the payout ratio is 30-70%. And this is automatically
included in the Excel file that
I'm using when I'm doing valuations
and that you will have access through this
course as well. Alright. So then the second, I mean in the flown number six, a second type of written
to shallows that can happen is really
the share buyback. And I want to explain to you
how share buybacks work. So remember that share buybacks. In fact, the company
is buying shares that are available on the
market from the market. And what is the effect of that? Then you can see it in, in various examples
that I've put in here is that it's imagined. I start with a very
simple example. If you had a company
that had an equity of 100 K US dollar and the company that equity was represented
through 50 shares. One book value per share
was in fact $2,000 if the company would buy five
shares back in the equity. Technically speaking, that
equity will remain at 100 K US dollar and
the book value, because you would divide
the same equity amount by less shares outstanding as a company has bought
back five shares, your book value will increase. So technically speaking,
means that in this example, you would get a gain of 11% on the book value
of one single share. Because the company has
spent a certain amount of money on reducing the amount
of shares outstanding. So here I want to be very
precise because there are effects that you need to be attentive to allow me to be
a little bit more technical. So as I said, you have
this balance sheet. The company in this example
has a balance of 240 million. I'm taking another
example to explain the things that are important
here to understand, the company has same amount
of debt and equity, just, just an assumption that
to do a balancing is 240 million and the company is spending $20 million for doing a share buybacks at that time. And you have the company has 100 million
shares outstanding. The book value of one
share would be $100,120 million of equity divided by 100 million shares outstanding, which would be one dot two. Technically speaking, they
are doing a share buyback. There are two steps to it. The first step that
you're going to see in a lot of companies is you're going to see in the equity portion of
the balance sheet, you're gonna see a line, a negative line appear, which is called treasury stock. Treasury stock is in
fact the amount of shares that have been
bought back since they won, because we are looking
at the balance sheet. In this example,
you will in fact see the equity go in step one, go down to 100 million. And here there is a
very strong assumption that it depends on
which moment in time the company does
the share buybacks. And I've been discussing
this in a webinar as well. If the company is
buying back shares from the market at a very high price, actually the company
may be destroying too much cash versus the amount of shares
that are bought back. Here, I took the
assumption that for 20 million of US dollar
spent on share buybacks, The company was able to buy back those shares
at $1 per share. That's why the amount of shares
on the right-hand side of the graph has come down to 80
million shares outstanding. But imagine the
company will in fact, by the sheriff's back on
the market for $2 a share, the amount of shares
would only then go back to 19 million, 100 million shares outstanding. Before doing the share buyback, the company spent
20 million and is buying each share at
US dollar per share. So the company is buying 10 million shares
from the market. And instead of having 18 million
on the right hand sides, the company would
only have 90 million. So you need to be
attentive that that can have bad effects. And Warren Buffett
is speaking about this bad effects
and the timing when the company is buying
back the shares from the market is
important, as well. As a general remark, I like share buybacks, Warren Buffett Live
Share buybacks as well. I'm just very attentive to when the company is buying the
shares from the market. If the company is buying the
shares from the market at the tip of the share price,
that's maybe not good. Maybe the companies
should spend the money at a reasonable price
in order to buy more shares back
from the market. In this case, as the company
was able to buy back the spent a 20 million
at $1 per share. The amount of shares outstanding
is at 80 million shares. And you see at the book
value has in fact increase. The equity has
raised 120 million. Monitor treasury
stock is 100 million, then divided by 80 million
shares outstanding, and you have a book
value of N of 125. And this is what you have. Also hear from McDonald's. You see in fact that
they are, in 2016, they did treasury
stock purchases for $11,171 million,
11,000 $171 million. And you see in fact that it's nearly four times or
three-and-a-half times the amount of cash dividends. What I want you to do
here is really to comment evolution of stock
buybacks between the two. In fact, on McDonald's between
the years 2014, 15.16. Pause here and then resume
when you are ready. So when your resume
you see in fact that McDonald's has been, let's say, pretty flat on the amount of cash
dividends spans. So they have been
spending rough cut 3 billion in 1,415.16. Why the amount of share buybacks has doubled 14-15,
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share buybacks in 2016. Of course, this has
an impact on cash. So you need to think about
what's the impact on cash? Of course, you hope that, you know, that cash
would be destroyed, but the company has generated higher profits to
be able to do those shampoo phi of x and those stock dividend payments as well. So always think about looking at the end position of cash. While the company is
spending huge amounts of money on doing those share
buybacks and cash dividends. So what you then need
to calculate as well, and this is where we
will be finishing here, what I want to share with you
is you have to think about total share buyback and not just about cash dividends yields. Here you need to be
able to calculate that. In fact, while you were
only getting a one dot 9% cash dividend yields, while the company has been
spending more than 11 billion. If you make the calculation, the company has spent
$12.97 on a share. So basically the company on your $186 has been adding
to the one dot 9%, a 69% share buyback healed. And so your total year, and this is in the actual file, is also precalculated
automatically calculated your total yields is the cash dividend yield plus
the by the buyback yields, which is the amount of
money spent on the top. So you divide the total amount of treasury stock purchases divided by the total amount of shares outstanding diluted. And you take that amount and you divide it by the
current share price, and this gives it a 609
per cent share buybacks. So look at the formulas here. So at the very end
of the day in 2016, McDonald's was providing an eight dot eight per cent
total shareholder yields, one that nine per cent
cash dividend yields and 609 per cent share
buyback yields. But of course it's 6.9%. You will not see it
in the bank account. So before we move
on, you can see in this summary slide
also aware in fact, if you remember the
dividend per share and the dividend yield formula, you actually substitute
dividend by buyback. And you can calculate
the buyback per share and the
buyback yields, but isn't important assets. And as we saw in the
example of McDonald's, is that you then I able to calculate the total
shareholder return per share, which is basically
the dividend per share plus a buyback per share. And you can calculate the
total shareholder yield, which is dividend yield
plus buyback here. And this is how we
ended up having a more than 8% return on a McDonald's or return to shareholders for
McDonald's as a company, at least in the year 2016. So remember it was a cash
dividend yield of one at 9% plus a share
buyback heel up 609. So before moving on,
keep in mind that the share buyback
heal normally will reflect in an increase in the share price because the book value will
artificially be, let's say, increase by having less outstanding shares that are free floating on
the public markets. But if there is a
button that you will not see the share
buyback yields and land in your bank account will only be the cash dividend
yield that you will see after-tax landing in
your bank account and your broker account. Alright, two last things before
wrapping up this lesson. The first one is when we
speak about dividends. And I believe that dividends
are a very, very strong, let's say, element
for building up this snowball effect
and building up wealth. You have some companies
and in fact are called dividend kings or
dividend aristocrats. And what is the definition of dividend king
given aristocrat, it's in fact a
dividend aristocrat is a company that is listed on the S&P 500 for more than 25 years and
has been increasing. In fact, the payouts, the cash dividends to shareholders
for the last 25 years. Dividend king is the same, not necessarily in the S&P 500. It's a company that has been
increasing the payouts, the dividend payouts
for the last 50 years. How is this possible? Well, because of
inflation in fact, and very often you're going
to see dividend kings and dividend aristocrats be inflation resistant
companies, e.g. I, remember I had
nestle in my portfolio unless they had been paying
out dividends since 1959. What has been increasing that
dividend year over year? I had the same for BASF, which currently pays
€3 dot $0.40 per year. And that dividend has been
increasing year over year. Of course here,
the payout ratio, the dividend payout ratio
plays a very important role. But as long as profits, as long as the company
is profitable and it can potentially charge inflation
to its end customers. Chances are very high and it's the same for Unilever, e.g. that I had in my
portfolio as well, or the nonna that in
fact those companies are in fact increasing
the amount of dividends. So the cash dividend
year over year, and there are some so I have currently 03:00 A.M.
in my portfolio, which is one of those, but they are more so this is a very strong snowball effect. Why? Because maybe the
day you bought in, let's imagine you
bought in six years ago and at that time you are already having like a five to 6%, let's say dividend yield. Well, without doing nothing that dividend yield will
increase year over year. And maybe today you're
already at nine or 10% of dividend yields by
holding that position. So that's something
that is extremely powerful and not
enough people in fact, look into those things. So if you look at my
portfolio, in fact, I do have some of those companies that are dividend aristocrats,
dividend kings. Because not only do I want
to have passive income, but potentially I want to have
15. Profitability (ROE & ROIC): Welcome back investors. We are nearly at the end
of Chapter number three in the next fundamental
task of a metal screening, be discussing
financial powerhouses and also the measure of profitability will be
discussing ratios, return on equity, return
on invested capital, and written that
tangible assets. First things first.
Remember when company is created at
the moment of inception, the balance sheet of the
company looks like this. There's gonna be no dept. And very probably there's
going to be equity return. Another form of shareholder paid in capital that will vary probably sits at
the very beginning as a cash assets in
the balance sheet. Of course, remember
the intention is to use that cash that
has been brought in by showers and to transform that
cash into assets that will in fact generate profits through the operating
cycles of the company. So very probably the
company or supplements hum, of the balance sheet of the
company will look like this. You're going to have
the capillary that has been paid in by
the investors in the very beginning and in the
first cycle you're going to have some cash
remaining to pay off, let's say short-term debt, e.g. like supplier salaries,
those kind of things. And the rest of the
casual probably have been employed to transfer or be transformed into tangible
assets like property, plant and equipment, and also intangible
assets potentially, if the company has been
buying, I don't know, trademarks, right of
use, type of assets. What happened also very often is that the company at a
certain moment of time needs supplemental external money
and will then consider either going back to its
shareholders and raise money, fresh money from
those shareholders. And all can go to
moneylenders like a bank and borrow money
from the bank, e.g. something that I can already share here with
you very quickly. And it's something tension
in the value investing, trading to go deep into it. But the high risk investments
normally are funded by cash and low-risk investments are typically funded by adapt. One of the main reasons
is that in fact the cost of depth is normally lower than
the cost of equity. And the reason for that is that depth told us,
if you remember, when I was introducing financial statements
and specifically the order of liquidation, the balance sheet on the liability side, the
orderly liquidation. In fact, lambdas come first
versus equity holders. Hence, their risk is smaller
than the equity holder risk. And for that reason normally, the cost of, let's say, borrowing money from
lenders should normally be lower than the cost of
borrowing money from capital. So from equity holders
are from shareholders. That's the main reason
to make it simple, and this is why high risk
investments should be funded by cash and low-risk investments
should be funded by that. Alright? What we want to achieve if we come back to the value creation cycle
inside the company. So remember that I've split it, the balance sheet into two. You have on the right-hand side, the source of capital with debt and equity on the
left-hand side, you have the company operations that are reflected very probably through an amount of cash
and cash equivalents, tangible assets and
intangible assets. What we want to measure here is the profits and how
good the company is generating profits
from its assets. So by doing that performance
measure, of course, we're evaluating the
performance of the management. That is in fact, normally converting
economic activity, so revenue, sales into profits. So we will introduce
the three measures of looking at the
performance of a company. The first one will be
written on equity, the second one will be
return on invested capital. Then you're going to
see there are some, let's say, variations to that. Some people like to look at
return on invested capital, including goodwill and other people like to exclude goodwill. Goodwill to make it short, is the premium
that has been paid on top of the book value
during an acquisition, during a merchant acquisition. In fact, my preference is to keep goodwill
in the calculation because I want to
see if the company has been overpaying
for an acquisition. And I'm comparing a company
I'm thinking about to invest into with another company
that has less goodwill. Well, maybe the other
company is better at generating profits with
a smaller balance sheet. So I tend to keep goodwill in my performance measurements are in my profitability
measurements. There is another one that also Warren Buffet has
been talking about, which is written on
that tangible assets that we'll be
discussing as well, which basically
excludes all goodwill and intangible assets
like trademarks, property and those
kind of things. So it isolates the
performance measure and the profitability measure purely on tangible
assets in fact. Alright, let's go into
the definition of it. So in order to
calculate the return on equity and what is
written on equity, in fact, you take the profits and in fact are going to
be very precise here. Typically, we use net
operating profit after taxes. Why? That's because it's
revenues minus expenses. Of course, you need to
remove the costs from the economic activity
operating because we're only considering operating
revenues and expenses. Profit is we want to see the bottom line of the
measure, an after-tax, because taxes are costs that
the company has to incur. And potentially there
are tax differences between one company
and the other because maybe one company has a better tax treatment
versus the other company. Typically when you calculate
the return on equity. So you take these net
operating profit after taxes, you exclude non-operating
revenues like revenues that are generated
from a cash investments e.g. and also you remove in
fact interests, expenses. It's arguable to be very fair. Some people consider that you could keep the
interests expanse in the calculation because as cost is a tax to the companies, so our interests
expenses as well. In fact, you can
discuss about it, but to make it simpler, consider that in typical
financial circles, return on equity is
net operating profit after taxes divided by equity. So I see on the right-hand side, which portion of the sources
of capital that I'm using. When you look at return
on invested capital. In fact, she was still using the measure of no pants or net operating
profit after taxes. But this time you
divide through, you divide by the
invested capital, which is in fact, you're adding to
equity the adapt. And to be very precise, Typically, again,
this is arguable. You're going to see through
a couple of examples, why does arguable typically
you could also say that cash, in fact sitting in the asset
side of the balance sheet is money that has
not been employed. And because of that, it's not considered
invested capitals. So when calculating
the return on invested capital, you could say, the formula could say that
it's no pants divided by depth plus equity
but minus cash, because cash is not
being employed. And even if cash would be
employed into generating interests revenue,
so finance revenue. In fact, you remember that in net operating
profit after taxes, that is in fact excluded. Here, judgement is required. You're going to see
how I tend to use it. I tend to in fact, to leave cash when you looking at invested
capital because I believe, I believe that cache
that is sitting in a bank account is an asset
as well to the company. And if the company has not
been deploying it or using it, well, that's a problem
of the company. So when I'm bench-marking to companies where I
will be comparing also how good they are
at employing cash as well from adapt perspective. And you're going to
see this is how I have set this up in the actual file. I'm only looking
at long-term dept. I could consider current assets
and current liabilities, so the net working capital. But to make it simple, in the other value
investing training, I consider that
invested capital is equity plus long-term debt. And I keep cash in, not removing from the
invested capital, the cash position in fact. Alright? So if there will be
one measure, I mean, I mentioned now here 33 versus four measures of
performance or return on equity, return on invested capital, return on invested capital, and you're removing cash and also return on
net tangible assets. If there isn't one that you have to keep in mind, it's RIC. It's as easy as that. Everybody when I mean, when I'm talking
to shareholders, when I'm talking to people about how to measure
the performance of a company in the sense
of how good the company is at generating profits
from its assets. I mean, 99% of the cases you have to think ROIC, that's it. Full stop. There
is nothing else. I will explain to you
why RIC is important, but if you wanna go
a little bit deeper, I mean, I recommend you
either looking at McKinsey. Mckinsey has a very
interesting papers about how to look at total
return to shareholders. Why growth is not a
performance measure by itself, because you can also generate growth in an unprofitable way. So growth has always to come at a profitable way and again, underwritten that is higher
than your cost of capital and your cost of capital has
to be higher than inflation. You see that how things
come together here. On the right-hand
side here you see the Berkshire Hathaway
2007 shareholder letter or letter to shareholders that Warren Buffett has written. And in fact, I've extracted a couple of
interesting elements. I mean, he's speaking
about three types of companies that generate profits. And what is very important here, he clearly says that a
truly great business must have an enduring mode that protects excellent
returns on invested capital. So for him as well, the most important
performance measure is return on invested
capital, full stop. So keep that in mind. It's very important, but keep in mind that good companies, they will have sustainable ROIC. And one thing, just to
be very, very clear, why we do not look
at return on equity. There are a couple of reasons. The first reason
or the main reason is that ROIC is a
better number than ROE because in fact you are adding all the sources
of capital into, let's say, the
profitability measure. And we will be practicing
this in a couple of slides. So I think it's fair
because you, I mean, at a certain moment in time
and what you had is you had companies or let's say
maybe two decades ago, people were maybe
looking more at return on equity as a
performance measure. And you may have had CFOs
that liked to raise Dept. And of course, that does not
appear in the written on equity performance measure
because return on equity, you are dividing the
notepad only by equity. So this is where return on invested capital is
a better measure. Because even if the company
will decide to raise capital through debt
holders or through depths, you will include the
dept as a source of capital in the
performance measure on how good, I mean, comparing at the
profitability of roses, it's total amount of
invested capital, which will be the depth plus equity holders and not
just the equity holders. For me to be very fair. Not later than four
or five weeks ago at INSEAD in San Francisco when I was doing model2 of my
inset RDP training, we discuss about that and
the professor was asking, is it ROE ROIC? And of course the answer
was ROIC as well. So I was absolutely
not surprised when we were discussing the financials
of corporate companies. The performance measures that also the Insert professor was, of course, and I would say, thanks God, because otherwise
it would have a problem in interpretation of
corporate finance and financial statements. Of course, confirming
something that was already clear for me since
many, many, many years. And again, something that
Warren Buffett mentioned in his 2007 letter to shareholders, that ROIC is the right
measure of performance, where you can argue is
if you keep cash or not, I tend to keep cash
in it, but okay. That's a matter of judgment that you have to
take into account. Alright, so I'll start with the very simplistic
example and then we will look at a couple of real companies with
Kellogg's and Mercedes. Here what I want you to do as an exercise is the following. So you have here two
companies and it's a fixture. So it's a theoretical but easy
to understand model where you have company a
balance sheet of 2001 company band of 2001. Company a has generated
a no pan of $1,000. You see it's a very
small operation and company B has generated a notepad for the fiscal
year 2001 of $1,500. Do you see that in the
balance sheet of company a, it has ten K in cash, five K in PP&E, and 200 in goodwill, again is a theoretical
example that is zero, so no leverage and
equity is 15 k dot two. So total balance
sheet is 15 k dot t2 on the companies be a
company B's balance sheets, you have the company
has cash 20 K, PP&E is 7.5 K and
goodwill 150 K for total asset side of
27 650k US dollars. And on the liability side, when you look at the
source of capital, and again, it's a simplistic
way of looking at it. You have adept at ten
K and equity at 17650. So what I want you
here to understand, that's why I'm using an
extremely simple example is you couldn't not
just say, I mean, if the question is, I want you to be able to comment which company is in fact a
better at generating profits. You could not just
say company B is better at because they have
generated a higher profit, that company a, that would be an unfair statement and that's
what sometimes people do. They do Just compare
profitability versus profitability without
taking into account, let's say the size of
the balance sheets and, or the, what is called
the capital structure. So how much debt and equity
the company carries? This is what I want
you to practice it. So what I want you to do
is that you calculate the return on equity with
the formulas that we saw. So the NOPAT divided by equity that you
calculate the ROIC. So that you calculate our IC, which is the formula notepad
divided by equity plus debt, you can decide to
remove cash or not. Here you're going
to see how the, how this impacts
the calculations. And then I want you to calculate the return on net
tangible assets. The net tangible
assets over total assets minus Intangible Assets, and then the total liability, so minus total
liabilities. Alright? So when you do the
math, in fact, you have, if you
look at company a, that has generated
one key US dollar of profit for the last
operating cycle of 2001, you have an array which
is of 658 per cent. That's one thousands of NOPAT divided by equity of 15 K12. The ROIC, if we keep cash in its remains the same because
company has no depth. Now what I want you
to do is compare the R0 E for company B. Company B has generated
more profits. So $1,500 on a little bit
higher equity, $17,650. And you see that the ROE, In fact for company B is higher than the ROE for company a. So the return on equity of
company B sits at H dot 50% while the ROE on company
a sits at 06:58 per cent. So if you would
only be looking at return on equity, indeed, he would very probably common, That's Company B is better at generating profits
versus company a. So I'll probably invest
intercompany be right. Okay. You would need
to do the valuation of the company versus how much you would need to pay for the shares of the
company, B versus a. But that's another story. We'll discuss that later on
specifically in chapter two. Now what I want to show
you here is that ROIC is a better performance measure
because you probably have already understood why I've took this very
simple example. That in reality, company
B is not as good as company, sorry,
generating profits. The reason for that
is that Company B, while only having 17,650 K of equity and without
generating $1.50 per cent. So $1,500. In fact, it would be unfair
to do that comparison, comparing return on equity of company B with return on
equity of company a. Y, because company B has
$10,000 of depth, while company a has zero depth. So when you do the math and you calculate now ROIC
and let's keep, for the sake of simplicity
of the example, you keep the cash in it. In fact, you would see that
the 1500s or the ROIC, the 1500s divided by the
total liability side. Debt to equity of company B
is only five, that's 42%. And we already calculated
the ROIC for company a as accompany a does
not have any depth. Well, the ROIC is equivalent to return on
equity of 658 per cent. And that's what I
wanted to prove you. That in this, again, it's very simplistic example, but it's really that you get. The point is that ROE is not
a good performance measure. It has to be ROIC. And for me, cash,
unemployed cash, I tend to keep it inside because I consider that
that has also a cost. And this should be part of measuring how good the company
is generating profits. I like to use, in fact
that total assets. So also keeping
in the cache e.g. so you see a said that they are ICF company B's only five dot 42% or the RIC of
company a six or 58%. Why did the ROIC
of company B goes down compared to the return
on equity of company B, which was sitting at
a top 50 per cent because the company has raised through debt holders
10,000 K. So in reality, with a bigger balance sheets from a proportionality
perspective, it's unable to generate as
much profit as company a. The right interpretation here is that company a is more
profitable than company B. Alright? You could do the same for, of course, real companies. And of course, in the axon file that has been the
companion sheets, the ROIC will be calculated
and I will be using in fact, the formula of total
equity and long-term dept, I leave current liabilities
aside because I consider that current
liabilities are covered by current assets, I could add net
working capital to it, which is different
between, between the two. But I decided for the
sake of being simple, that the RIC performance
measure is in fact net operating profit after taxes divided by long-term debt plus equity and I keep
cash in the calculation. So here, when you look at on the left-hand side
of our citizens and Kellogg's for the same
operating cycle of the fiscal year 2000 or
the calendar year 2022. You see in fact that Mercedes
has generated 3 billion, €627 million on a
total revenue of 154. So if you would just
divide those two numbers together and you would even
keep the interest income, interest expense. It's not. Those figures are small. You would see that Mercedes had the profitability
of four per cent, while Kellogg's at the
same moment in time, has generated 1 billion, $251 million of profits on a total net sales
of 13,000,000,717. So the profitability is
nine per cent in fact. But this is on the
income statement. Of course. The better performance measure
is looking at the ROIC. So if you would calculate
the ROIC for Mercedes, you would be adding
up at an ROIC. And I'll make it
very simple here. I would just take three. So you remember that in the
income statement and we have a net profit after
tax of 3,000,000,627. And I would divide it by the total amount of
equity and liabilities, and that would give me an
ROIC of one dot two per cent. If I would do the
same for Kellogg's. Kellogg's has a total equity
and liabilities of 17996. And again, I'm taking
here a shortcut. I could remove the current
liabilities on both sides. But it's a little
bit more complex for Mercedes because they are
also playing the role of a bank or financing their financing their customers for the purchase of their own cars, which is arguable as well. So I decided here to
make a judgment call and just for the RIC calculation to take the net income attributable to the
shareholders and I'm dividing it by the
total balance sheets. But I could adjust this
a little bit down. But if you see already here, if I'm just doing the same, I'm comparing apples and apples. Kellogg's 1,000,000,251 of
net income attributable to the Kellogg's shareholders
on a total balance sheet of 7,996 billion US Doris
is generating 695. So you see in fact from
this that it looks like that Kellogg's is not
better run company, but is able from its business to generate higher profits at
least for the year 2020. But again, as I said
in the Excel file, it will be automatically
calculated. The main purpose of this lesson is really
that you understand that the main
performance measure for company is
looking at it's ROIC, not on return on equity and not unwritten on that
tangible assets, really, you have to look at the ROIC and judgment
is required. As I said, I typically
look at RIC, I take the full
equity and I take the long term debt and I keep
current liabilities side, which would mean in fact, if I take an easy example
here for Kellogg's, if you look on the
right-hand side, if I leave the total
current liabilities aside, I do see that the long-term debt is sitting at 6,000,000,746. And I see that
equity is sitting. I would need to do
the calculation. No, it's here at 3112. So I would then probably have
to divide to have this is how it is calculated
and the axon far the ROIC would be
one to 51/6746, which is long-term
debt plus the 3112. So that would be a rough
cut, 9,000,000,858. So you see that you have a Kellogg's is having our IC which is close to ten per cent. So the one last thing, just to understand also why RSA is important to
management and where management can or if you are setting up the board of
directors or if you are a shower that where
in fact you can push management to improve the
performance of the company. In fact, the formula of ROIC, and we'll go now a little
bit into corporate finance. But just to give you a glimpse of how you can look into this, you could in fact, the formula, net operating profit divided
by invested capital. You could multiply it
by one and dividing the notepad BAR revenue
and multiplying the invested capital
by revenue as well. So you have not changed
the RIC calculation. What is interesting
when you do that is that you have in
fact various ways, various options where
management and board of directors can
push the needle. If you look here on
point number one, it's really about cost control
on the input prices, e.g. raw materials, and also
cost control on e.g. sales general administration. So the expanse of the
people in the company. When you look at bullet
point number two, of course, you could push the company
with the same amount of assets to generate more
revenue, more sales. Of course, this
will increase ROIC. And bullet point
number three, in fact, which is revenue divided by invested capital is the
efficiency of the resources. So potentially you
could through that also reduce the amount of assets
that the company has. E.g. as well reduces the
cost for raising money if the company has a big dept position
in its balance sheet. So that's the kind of
thing where management can improve the performance
of the company by really, you see that taking the initial RIC formula notepad divided by
invested capital. And now I've divided know
pepper revenue and I multiplied it by revenue
divided by invested capitals. So I'm not changing the logic
now the calculation of it, but this allows me to push
the needle if I would be the manager of the
company on various ways that I have to increase the performance and
of course increase the ROIC because that's
basically what investors wants. One thing that I learned
from Warren Buffett as well, and you're going to see
this when you will be analyzing companies, is that. Companies that have strong
modes, they have ROIC, which is close to 10% and
this for many years in a row. So that's in fact the
performance measure, that's the test that
you have to do. Does the company have, first of all, positive ROIC? First of all? And secondly, is it
somewhere close to 10%? And for a couple
of years in a row, if that is the case,
you are in fact, observing a company
that is able to charge a high price
is very probably to its customers or has modes like a monopolist
situation or duopoly situation where
prices can be charged high and through that
profits are in fact high. And remember when? And this is something
that we already discussed that
every investments, so when will bring us there is depth dollar of shareholders bringing capital
into the company. And that capital is
transformed into assets. That, that transformation
of capital into assets is carrying an
implicit cost of capital. What you want to achieve is that if you remember that
the return that you get on your assets is higher than the cost of
capital expectations. And of course, if
you want to avoid destroying value and
destroying wealth, your cost of capital has to
be higher than inflation. So when you bring
all this together, now going to be adding one technical term that is important to know as
well in your vocabulary. Because corporate finance is
the language of business, It's what is called the WACC, the weighted average
cost of capitals. So first of all, before I explain to
you how the WACC works very quickly
through an example. So the right formula
that we have to think is you remember that you
start from inflation. So everything. I'm not speaking
about philanthropy, but when you invest
money into something, your written has to be
higher than inflation. So we need to know
what is the cost or what is the amount of
inflation that you have? Depending on your
investment horizon? Of course you could if
you want to be on the safe side investment e.g. a. Us 30-year Treasury bonds, which is yielding e.g. at three dots 6%, if I'm
not mistaken lately. And of course, if you're
taking more risks, you want to have a
return that is higher versus the risk-free rate that is provided by
the US government, which is more or less
covering inflation. So by doing that, and remember we mentioned, and I mentioned the
term capital spread. It would be great if
you would be able to generate three investments, return on invested capital that is higher than
your cost of capital. But we will be speaking about weighted average
cost of capital, which is higher
than the risk-free rate of the third year, US treasury bonds, which
is higher than inflation. This is how investors and this is how
companies create value. They're gonna get cost of capital expectations
from their shareholders. And management has
at least to be on par with those cost
of capital expectations. But in corporate finance, we don't use the term
cost of capital. We use the term WACC, which is weighted
average cost of capital. What does it mean? I mean, if you just look
at the balance sheet, remember that on the
sources of capital, we have two sources of capital. I mean, we were
discussing this return on equity versus return
on invested capital. Return on equity is only considering equity as
a source of capital. Return on invested capital is
considering the credit told us plus the equity holders
as sources of capital. What happens very often
in companies is what we call the company has a
specific capitals structure, the capitalist structure
to make it simple as a proportion of how much of capital has been brought in by equity holders
versus depth told us, the WACC in fact is a
weighted average of, let's say, calculating the
cost of equity versus depth. And I will not go too
far into the details here because it's not a
corporate finance course. I wanted to just
that you understand that those terms exists. So when I was
initially mentioning that your written has to be
higher than cost of capital, has to be higher than inflation. Now I can say that
your return on invested capital has to
be higher than the WACC, has to be higher than risk-free rate and has to
be higher than inflation. How do you calculate the WACC? Well, it's pretty easy. I mean, depending on
the amount of money that you are raising from
equity and from depths. And of course the cost
that comes to it. I mean, if you want to
know the cost of dept, just go to your bank and ask for depending on what you would
like to have for 100s, thousands, million, 10 million. And they're going to tell you
versus your risk profile, what will be the cost for
you of raising that amount of money from or to borrow that amount of
money from the bank. So, I mean, let's
make it very easy if you are an investor
and in this example, you want to invest into
the market with you. Remember I said
that you should not raise DHAP to invest
into the market. You should only invest
your own money. But in this example, if
you would raise 63% of your investments through adapt and 37% through your own money, which would be equity. You could. In this example, let's
consider that the bank is giving you a 4% return or cost. In fact. On the depths. And you're considering
that's the cost, that your cost of capital
is 12% because maybe you're investing into more high
risk investment vehicle. In fact, as the 12% cost is representing only
37% of the inputs, which is an equity inputs. And the 4% is linked to 63% of the source of
your investments. In fact, the weighted average
cost of capital would be 696 per cent. Of course, your investment
has to match this, so you need to have a
return that is above this cost of capital
of 696 per cent. Otherwise you will be
destroying wealth, of course. But if you're able to earn e.g. 896 per cent and
you having a cost of capital of 696% while you have a capitalist
spread of two per cent. So you're actually creating more value to yourself by this. And this is how it works. Also this financing mechanisms, this is how it works
for companies as well. If the company has to go to
the bank and raise money from the bank versus the company is raising money from
its shareholders. Both half Cost of Capital expectations
for the shadows will be the cost of
equity expectation. And for the bank,
it will be the cost of debt expectation. And of course, the cost
of that will depend as well on your risk
profile as a company. And last but not least,
because, I mean, I remember many, many years
ago, I wasn't thinking. And you remember that I said in the introduction of this lesson that the cost of
depth normally is lower than the cost of equity because depth dollars half or they carry a lower risk versus equity holders,
which is true. Why then in fact, raising money from
equity holders, it's matter of equilibrium, what is called the
financial gearing as well, which is linked to in fact
with the capital structure if you're only raising
money through depths. In fact, the example
I was giving on the WACC was a
theoretical example. If you are financing
something with 63% of depth, very probably you will not get a 4% cost of depth
expectations from the bank. Very probably the
bank will consider you with a higher risk. Depends. Maybe, of course, if you're borrowing 1
million and you have already having 10 million
in cash in that bank, while they may be
considered that lower risk. But if you have
nothing from them, then maybe the cost
of debt will be 15% while the cost of equity
will remain at 12 per cent. So you see that then the
effect than the WACC, because of that, will be higher
than the cost of equity. So this is where in fact, at a certain money time this what is called the
gearing ratios, the debt to equity and
we'll be discussing debt to equity in the upcoming
chapter as well. And the solvency and the interest coverage
ratio just need, you need to keep in mind that it does not mean
that per default, the cost of debt is lower
than the cost of equity. That you should think. That you can finance everything
exclusively through dept, the people that you want to borrow money from
the depth TO loss. If you are not adding any
equity to the investment, they will then consider, you're asked as a
very, very high risk, and then they will
raise the cost of debt to extremely high levels. This is what I'm showing here. In fact, at the bullet
point number three, where if the amount of equity that you're
bringing in is really low at a certain time. The cost of depth, in fact, is skyrocketing and it
becomes exponential. So there is a right that
equilibrium to bring so that the cost of equity remains higher than the cost of debt. And this one I'm showing
here in this curve, but that's little
bit more technical, but just wanted to share this with you because
lot of people, when I speak about cost of
debt and cost of equity, they think that's because I said that because of debt is
lower than cost of equity, that they should
only raise money from external credit told
us and that's wrong. You need to finance something
with your own money. I mean, if you are
buying a house, the bank will expect
that you bring in a certain amount of your
own equity into it. And then depending on your
risk profile than they will provide you or make your
proposal for the cost of depth. So the interest rate
that you will have when investing into house e.g. that you do not own, but you need some kind of
depth for that. This is a gearing ratio that
we're speaking here about. Alright, so wrapping up here, so we are nearly at the end of the level
one fundamental screen. So remember that first test is, are we having blue chips? Is the company that you want
to invest into blue chips? Yes. Yes. No. Does the company have
earnings consistent for the last five if not ten years? Does the company currently, on its current share price
provide your price to earnings ratio that is
below 15 or even below ten. Does the company provide a
passive written two shells of at least four per cent
passively after taxes. Does the company
provides a return on invested capital that is
above 10% consistently? If that is the case, it looks like already starting
to look at a good company, you have not yet been
able to calculate what's the intrinsic
value that will be part of the next chapter. But the one last thing is, as we have been looking into financial powerhouses
and the debt to equity conversation
is also look at the solvency of the company
and how too much depth, in fact, can kill a
company's business in fact. So we'll speak about that in
the next lesson. Thank you.
16. Solvency, debt to equity & interest coverage ratio: Right, value investors. Last lesson of
Chapter number three. We are still, we are in fact
wrapping up the level of one fundamental tests
that we have to do. So in the next one will
be discussing solvency, debt to equity and
interest coverage ratio. So remember when we're looking at a balance sheet
and we have been now extensively discussing this in the previous lecture as well about the sources of capital. And that you have, again, you see how the pencil
comes together, that you have that as
a source of capital and equity as a
source of capital. One interesting measure as well. Then I like to look into is
the debt to equity ratio, which is basically the
ratio you calculate. In fact, you take the external liabilities of
the company and you divide it by the equity and
liabilities of the company. And this allows you, in fact, this ratio is a measure
of performance, but also of risks and
also of benchmark, of comparison with other
companies as well. One thing that I can
already share here is, of course, debt to equity and
it's the same for the RIC. I mean, you may have
industries that are more capital intensive
than other ones. So there are, in fact,
it's interesting to compare the ratios within
the same industry, but for you, nonetheless,
as an investor, if you're interested
in three to four to five different industries, while you need to
take into account that may be industries
that are less capital-intensive and
provide similar returns are in fact more
interesting for you. Alright, so coming back
to the wag very quickly, remember that the
cost of capital, or what we now call the weighted
average cost of capital, is a measure that is
averaged by the amount of equity that is brought in
versus the amount of depth. So in the table below what
I'm showing you here, e.g. if you would have a
cost of debt sitting at five per cent of cost of equity is sitting
at nine per cent. As a theoretical example, if the amount of debt
that you would bring into investment would
be zero per cent. The amount of equity that you would bring into
investment would be 100%. Your WACC would be equivalent to the cost of equity
at nine per cent. Of course, if it is half, half, you have half of the investment that is coming
from depth at a cost of five per cent and half of
the investment that is coming from equity at
the nine per cent cost, then of course your WACC is perfectly balanced
between the two. You're going to have a
WACC of seven per cent. If e.g. you have
1990 per cent of investment that is
covered by depth and that has a cost
of five per cent. And only 10% is
covered by equity. Equity has a cost
of nine per cent, while the WACC would be a
five, not four per cent. So keep, keep this in mind
that now when you speak about written has to be
higher than cost of capital. In fact, I mean that
return on invested capital has to be higher than the weighted average
cost of capital. This is where we
need to bring in also ratios like
depths to equity. So of course, when you remember
in the previous lecture, we were looking at a very
simple balance sheet of company a and company B, where I wanted to prove to
you through a simple example, the ROIC is a better
performance measure than return on equity. In fact, I did not show you, but I had already precalculated
the debt to equity ratio. Of course, debt to equity
ratio for company a is zero because if you
take depth divided by, so you take 0/15200, it will always be zero because
the company has no adapt. If you look at
company B, in fact, they're, the debt to equity
ratio is still okay ish. It's below one, but
it's 10,000 in terms of depth divided by 17650
in terms of equity. So it would not be now dramatic. And you will see that
afterwards at the end, I will conclude that having
a debt to equity ratio, of course it depends
on the industry but adapt to equity
ratio that is below three below to even
below one that five is in fact great to have because then the company
carries a lot of equity and has not too much
external leverage. What you can do, of
course, as I said, is you will find on a lot of websites on
morningstar.com, e.g. they will have already precalculated debt to equity
on the latest quarter. And here I was analyzing, I think it wasn't
thousand and 1,900,020. I was analyzing and
debt-to-equity of the latest quarter for
the car manufacturers. And you see in fact that
you have really, I mean, it goes from, I think
the highest one was Ford Motor Company with
the debt to equity of 309. And porch at that time, person has a very
specific structure. In the meantime, they have
IPOs and the ticker is P9 11. It's very funny,
in fact what they have chosen as a ticker. But I exclude Here Porsche
automobile holding. But you have like Ferrari
handed up to equity of 141 key I headed up to
equity of zero dot 14, which is extremely,
extremely low. Daimler Ag. So that's a Mercedes. In the meantime,
they had a debt to equity of one dot six c2, which is still not a lot, but it means that they
have more equity, 62 per cent more equity, sorry, 62% more
depth versus equity. That's what the debt to
equity in fact means. So a very concrete example, how in fact you remember
we are having this cycle, this value creation cycle, where capital comes in is
transformed into assets. We hope that those
acids generate the profit from the
operating cycle. Then company management and board of directors
and shareholders, depending on what
our reserve methods to those three,
let's say bodies. What has been delegated
to those bodies, they then have a strategic capital allocation decisions flow number four, if you remember reinvesting into assets flow number
five, ping of death, flow number six, giving are providing a return
to shareholders. This example, in fact, we are looking at
flow number five, so we are in fact reducing
the amount of that. So on the left-hand
side and we'll expand the example we're
having and we use this example of simplified
balance sheet a couple of lessons ago where the company has in terms of
sources of capital, a depth of $120 million
sitting in the balance sheet, and an equity with
the same amount at 120 million years old as by
pure coincidence, of course. So when you calculate
the debt to equity ratio, it's 120/120. So the debt to equity
ratio is of one. Now, the company has
generated profits. Let's imagine to make it simple at the company
has generated $20 million of profits and is using 100% of the
profits generated. Just, you know, they're
going to flow number five. So we're going to be reducing
the company management has decided we want to reduce
the amount of depth. So what happens is that
20 million of cash are burns from the balance
sheet and the balance sheets. So on the left-hand side, there is an outflow of $20 million from
the bank accounts. That outflow of
cash is going, e.g. to the debt holders. So to the lenders, let's
measure would be a bank. And the bank now has received
a payment of 20 million. What remains in the balance
sheet of the company is that the total
amount of depths, as you see on the
right-hand side, has been reduced 120-100120 -20. The equity amount has
remained unchanged. The company has allocated 100% of its profits to
the flow number five, so the equity there are
no retained earnings and have increased
the book value. So the amount of equity remains
the same, $120 million. Do we like that? Well, yes, we do like that. Why? Because the debt to equity
ratio has just decrease. Look at just make the math on before doing this
reimbursement of depths, it was 120/1 attendee, so the debt to equity
ratios of one. Now, in fact, we have
20 million lines of depth and the debt to
equity ratio went 1-083, which is a calculation $100,000,000 of depth divided by the same amount of equity, which is $120 million. This is deleveraging
as it is called. I do like those things as
well because I prefer that the company has less depths to carry in its balance sheet. That's always great.
But of course, in some industries you
will need to raise depths. And that sentence is
cheaper than equity. But nonetheless, the debt to equity ratio has to
remain reasonable. So in this theoretical example, you see at the debt to
equity ratio once down. So when we look at
corporate dept in fact, and you're going to see that I'm not speaking about it too much in the other value
investing tuning, I'm speaking more about it in the other reading
financial statements is when you do what is
called a vertical analysis, you look at what
are the substances but other bigger items
in the balance sheet. In fact, very often
if it is equity, but also the finance
liabilities of the bigger portion in
the balance sheets very, very often and of
course it varies. I mean, it's an car manufacturer that has huge
manufacturing plants, has to invest a lot
of money into R&D. It's something
different if you have pure marketing business
like Nike, e.g. where you outsource
a lot of things. So your capital intensity
is probably much lower. In fact, offer a franchise,
franchiser, e.g. so what the investors, what you have to look into is, of course, the size, the amount of debt
that the company has. And this is typically done by looking at debt to equity ratio. Also what we'll see is the
interest coverage ratio. So that's really the
cost not reimburse the adapt because the data has some reimbursement timeline set, what is called the maturity. And if you look into the other reading financial
statements course, I'm explaining how to
read the timeline of the liabilities because it's
not necessarily linear. So you are able already to
see what is the amount of money that has to flow back into flow number five
over the next e.g. six to seven years, there's gonna be a timeline for reimbursement of the depth that the company carries
in its balance sheet. And it's not linear. As I said, there may be peaks
in there as well. But for me, the two most
important ratio that I like to look into the debt to equity and the interest
coverage ratio. So with that, I'm introducing in fact the term that I
have not discussed yet. So you have understood how
to calculate debt to equity and I will tell you how
to test up to equity. There is another one, which is the interest coverage ratio. But before doing that, we will be discussing
this in chapter number five when we are looking
at external stakeholders, how they perceive the company that you're thinking
about to invest into. You have in fact, rating agencies like
Standard and Poor's, Moody's and Fitch,
you have other ones, but those are the three most
known ones that in fact rates the solvency of companies. And you gotta have those, let's say, ratings that go e.g. for what is top grades. Investment level is always considered AAA you have is
also for sovereign bonds. So four bonds. So for depth that is raised
by countries as well, countries also are
getting ratings, e.g. Luxembourg has a track
record on triple a ratings. Then of course, if the
solvency is going down, it goes from triple a
to double a, triple B. So that's still
investment-grade investments. And then when you go below, then it becomes speculative and you will understand
how to calculate it. So the source I'm using here, and I've put it
here on the bottom. I'm using a guy. Maybe you see the
book behind me. It's about company valuation. The guy is called us what
does move around and it's like really the experts
on a company valuation. In fact, he has written
a couple of books, is a professor at the Stern Business School
at New York University. And what is interesting
is that he in fact provides at publicly, I mean, you can download it. He provides in fact, how the ratings are linked, in fact to the risk
of the company. And what does that mean in
terms of cost of capital? And cost of capital
increases or premiums that you need to add depending
on the risk of the company. So let me explain the following. So we are discussing depth here. So when we're looking at depths, the first thing that
we want to test is what is the amount of
debt versus equity? So that's the debt
to equity ratio, very easy to take both numbers. We divide that by equity
and you have a ratio. What is great is
when that number is somewhere below
three below to even preferably below one dot five so that the
company does not carry too much depth, right? But that's not enough the
company in order to serve that depths as also
to pay interests. And that's the
interests expanse cost. So what we want to do
as investors to look as well is how much of
the profits I in fact, eaten up just in order to service the existing
debt of the company. And this is what is called
the interest coverage ratio. So typically what we do is we take the earnings
before interests and taxes and we divide it
by the interest expense. That is the interest coverage
ratio and that ratio. And you'll see on the
right-hand side on the table, depending on how that ratio, what the result
of that ratio is. If typically you are having an interest coverage ratio
that is below one dot five. Well, it means that.
What does it mean? It means that most
of the profits are in fact going to servicing just the
cost of the depths. Of course, if you have an
interest coverage ratio of one, that's the easiest one. Let's imagine the company
has generated 100 million of EBITDA earnings before
interest and taxes. And the interest expense
is 100 million as well, where nothing is left to do 45.6 because interests expanse isn't that reducing
it's not flow. Number five is not reducing
the amount of depth. The amount of depth is there. It's just the cost to
service the depths. And that's of course
dramatic because nothing is left even to
reimburse the adapts. So that's why you need to have an interest coverage ratio. Typically that is above, I would consider
above 105 about too, that's really,
really the minimum. So when you have an
interest coverage ratio that is below one,
not five or lower. I mean, I tell you the
company will vary, probably struggle a lot too. So we'd probably have to
restructure it stepped in fact. But if you're having, I
mean, you have companies that have interest
coverage ratio that are sitting at 13 times
or even ten times. It means that when you have an interest coverage
ratio of ten, 10% of the profits are in fact consumed to
serve as the depth. At the same time you
have 90 per cent that remain maybe to reduce
the amount of adapt. So with that also the
amount of interests, expenses may be going down
in the next operating cycle. This is how I have to
think about what that was, what the model
around says Through his tables on the
right-hand side, depending on the market cap. But if you look at large, I mean, I invest into
blue-chip companies. If you look at large
non-financial service firms that they have market
caps about 5 billion. I mean, he's considering that an interest
coverage ratio above H dot 50 is in fact
triple a rating. So the risk premium that you would need to add
to your cost of capital is only 69% at that time when the
calculation was done, that was January 2021. If you have an interest
coverage ratio of e.g. one of one, which
is 0-1 dots 25. You need to add to your
cost of capital a risk, let's say a risk premium
of 940, 6%, that's huge. And it's normal because asset with an interest
coverage ratio of one, I promise you the
company is struggling, seriously struggling,
and it's just surviving and taking all
the profits to reimburse, just service, to end to pay. In fact, the interest expense, not even to reduce
the amount of depth. So that's the kind of thing where you need to be
attentive and that's why you see how osmotic
neuron is matching. When you look at the 90814999, is considering that
as a triple C rating. And if you go back to
the previous slide, a triple C rating
is considered a very high risk investments. So that's speculative. Let's say zone. If you're having a
interest coverage ratio of H dot 50, e.g. he's considering this as AAA. Aaa is investment-grade,
top-level. Our premise of the
company will not go bankrupt just by its
interests expense. So that's the kind
of thing that you have to also understand and this will be calculated in
the actual file as well. And to make it simple, is the debt-to-equity ratio, the lower the better and the
interest coverage ratio, the higher the better. And this is something
that's when you will put in the actual file, the values. And we will be discussing specific appendix
that explains how to input the various how to
input the various numbers. You will see in fact, through color codes if
the debt to equity is low and also if the interest
coverage ratio is giving enough margin of safety on the amount of interest expense versus total amount of profits. To, to last very quick tests
that you could add as well, which sometimes are forgotten, is what I call the cash to market cap in the
context of depth. So it's interesting because
when markets are extremely depressed, it happens that. And here you have the example of Ford Motor Company at that
time when I was doing the analysis that the amount of cash versus the market cap. And remember what
the market cap is, the number of shares outstanding multiplied by the share price. I mean, you will nearly buying the whole company's
cash account only. This is how much depressed and Margaret was about fourths. So they were only
adding, I mean, if, if you would consider banning the total balance
sheet, the markets. So if you would have
the firepower to buy all the shares of fourths, you would actually buy. When you wouldn't be
buying one share, you will be buying 82% of
the cash account of fourths. And the rest of the
balance sheet was only representing 18% in one
singular share price, which is crazy low. So that's something that's, of course you need
them to compare with the amount of debt that
the company carries. But that's also a measure
that from time to time, I like to look when markets
are extremely depressed. It happens that
markets are giving me the company at a cache
to market cap that is, in fact very close to 100%, which is like crazy cheap. In fact. You have to calculate
this, of course, and I think it's calculating
the actual file as well. So this is what I
want you to do here, is that you estimate that you comments if you look
at Ferrari specifically, if you look at at that time when I was doing the analysis, the cash to market cap was
of 2.5th, nine per cent. And I want you to make
the interpretation. What does that mean? I'm wondering when you
are ready to resume. First of all, you pause
and when you're ready to resume, I will explain. So similar to Ford, where you were looking at 81, 97% while a Ferrari having a cache to
market cap of 2.5th D9. A. That means that
Ferrari is overvalued, or it means that it carries an extremely low
amounts of cash. It means that when you buying
one singular shelf Ferrari, that only 259% of the
share price is linked to their cash position
and the rest is linked to the other assets
in the balance sheet. In fact, this is how you
should do the interpretation. Alright, wrapping up a level
one fundamental screen. So let's just rehearse
very quickly. So first test is the
company being a blue-chip. So the company that you
want to invest into is2 blue-chip company is a big does it have strong brands? Seconds test? Does it carry
earnings consistency for at least five to
ten years in a row? Third task is the PE
below 15, even below ten, returned to shareholders
at least four to five per cent passive income, four per cent for
me, after taxes, you could say five
per cent pre-tax. Does the company generate profitability on its
invested capital at a rate of around 10%
in a consistent way. Does the company have a debt to equity ratio that is
below three below to even better below one dot
five so that the company does not have too much
debt versus equity. The interest coverage
ratio we want to have at least an interest
coverage ratio of three, which means that less than or let's say a third
of the profits I in fact allocated to servicing
the cost of the depths. Of course, the
higher the battery. Remember that on the
interest coverage ratio, if you are above a dot five, you are having in fact, only a ninth or tenth of the profits that are allocated to servicing
the cost of the debt. What are wrapping up here? Last, let's say
conclusion message that I want to share
here with you before we move into chapter
number four, which will be the evaluation
process will be calculating. And we wouldn't be
able to look at a share price that the
market is giving us versus how much In fact you value the company will be using
various methods for that. But here, one last thing
I want to share with you. I mean, we have seen
a couple of tasks, blue chips or inconsistency PE, returned to
shareholders, return on invested capital debt to equity and interest
coverage ratio. Please, again, do not
put your money into the stock market based on
one ratio. That looks good. It's a combination of
all of them, right? Of course, judgement is required because
maybe debt-to-equity will be tougher for
pharma industry, maybe tougher for, I
don't know, utilities, those kind of things that
are more capital intensive versus a pure franchisor, e.g. so you need to think about that. But with those tests, if you combine those tests together, you're going to see in fact that how the corn spreads
from the crop. And I mean, it's very interesting to do that,
but please again, do not invest your money into the stock market just
based on one ratio, that looks good, that
would be foolish. And as I told you, a two-month, too many people actually invest into the market
just by looking, e.g. at the price to earnings
ratio that is low in fact, but that's not good enough. You need to take into account
the other factors as well. Alright, wrapping up here, talk to you in the next
lecture and next chapter. In fact, which is the
valuation process, we're going to be discussing
couple of methods, how to value the share price of a company and comparing
it with the market. And if we having
this famous margin of safety of 25 to 30 per cent,
talk to you the next one. Thank you.
17. Case study : Performing a fundamental analysis with VingeGPT: Alright, the investors. So now, having finished the let's
call it the theory with some practical examples about
the fundamental screens, what we're going to
do now as we have now labs that are included
in the trainings, I'm going to show you how
to use VNGPT to, in fact, be very productive and efficient doing the fundamental
analysis of any company. Allow to access Vin GPT, I'm showing you can
here go to the website, you just type vingbt.com. You're going to see
the website loading, and after having loaded, you can immediately either
click here on GT Ving GPT, or if you go to Get Started, you go to another screen
where you also have the user guide that you can
download and also there, you can go to Ving
GBT as you wish. So if I go back to home, I'm just clicking
here on GoTo VingBT. We open a window on
the Open AI store. So you see you're having
now access to VN GBT. And so this looks very familiar
if you're used to ChanBT, but this is our
own IGBT that is, in fact, built on top
of the Open AI engine. As I'm always saying to people, it's not a wrapper
because you have a lot of custom GBTs that pretend to have their own data,
but they are not. It's just a facade on top
of the Open AI engine. I want to show you that this is actually so this is curated with more than 150 pages of our own knowledge, very
interesting knowledge, which is coming from
the courses that are available on
platforms like Udemis, Giulia skill,
success, et cetera. And the data points that are behind are coming from our own backend you're
going to see this. So we are practicing now
the fundamental screen. So the intention is
that you are able, let me just increase a
little bit the Zoom here. So the intention is that
you are able to very rapidly perform
the various tasks that we saw on the
fundamental screen. So the first thing
that you should do, and again, I'm doing it
now here in English, but any language
that is supported by the Open AI engine,
if it is Spanish, Chinese, Russian, Korean
and any language, French, German, you can, of course, interact with VNGBT
in those languages. But first, let's
take an example. Let's look at, for
example, I don't know. Let's compare Microsoft
with Apple, for example. So first, what you
have to ask is, as it is a new
conversation is do you have Microsoft in
your companies. So I'm submitting
a simple prompt. So you're going to see that winch what's
going to be doing. It's going to first
search in its knowledge. And so I'm saying, Yes, I would like you to perform a fundamental
fundamental analysis of the company as an example. So here what you're
going to see. You see, it's talking to the connector. So it's talking to our back end. So this is where we have millions and millions
of data points, and it's showing you
here because I'm doing the recording on June 26. It's actually structuring
the response as we have been teaching this course, as this course is structured. So you start with
relative valuation and elements like price earnings,
price of free cash flow. We look at dividend yields, dividend payout
ratio, share buyback. We look also at solvency
and financial health like debt to equity,
interest coverage ratio. The Altman Z score, there is a specific more advanced
training on the Altman Z score, which is a metric about
the risk of bankruptcy. And then we look at
profitability like RIC, for example, and
return on assets. And we have in VNC
for the time being, so we have 35,300 companies. We have 361 companies
who have mode, either white mode or
narrow mode information. In the case of
Microsoft, I mean, we have fueled, let's say, the VNGBT data back end
with mode information. You see that what is nice, as it knows the method of the
very interesting training. I immediately suggests
if you want to do a level two analysis of
the intrinsic value, which is part of the lesson
that you have not done yet, or even the Level three about Cosmo sentiment and brand value. But what I'm going to ask is, I would like actually to have Microsoft
compared with Apple. Can you analyze now
Apple and then do a side by side comparison of
both fundamental analysis? So let's see what it does now. I mean, I'm doing this life, so I'm just typing
the prompts as I think I should
submit the prompts. So you see it's again,
talking to our back end. So first, it comes back with the fundamental analysis here
now of Apple with a ticker. You see it comes with
the same structure. It comes with passive income. It comes with solvency, data, profitability, and efficiency,
and then also the mode. Then because I ask in
the same prom to do a side by side comparison,
you see, in fact, here that you can
easily have a side by side comparison between
both companies. So you can then, of course. And again, inch knows
that the next step would typically be a
level two analysis also called intrinsic valuation. Last prompt that I'm
going to submit here, I'm going to take another
company like, I don't know. Let's take a for example, Pepsi, and I'm going to
actually show you that you can have even
a quicker way of prompting VingPT is calling the L one or level one analysis. So I'm going to ask
now Vingch is perform a level one analysis for Pepsi. And the name of the
company is not Pepsi. It's I think Pepsi Co,
if I remember well. So it's again, talk
into the back ends, and it fetches, so it
searches for the data. And when it has found the data, it will then come back and
provide you the results. So I mean, it has to do also
the level one analysis. So you see it has talked, so it means that it has
received information back. So probably it has found Pepsi
in the 35,000 companies. Then you see it coming
back with a ticker name, the dates of the latest updates, and you see it comes back
with price earnings, price free cash flow, and
then again, same structure, passive income, shelter return, solvency, profitability,
and efficiency. So all of this is already
prepared for you. You see again, it has a white
mode and we have fueled it with the type of
information that is needed for value investors. And it even is now
suggesting to do side by side comparison between
the three companies, which is something that
we will not do now. So this one I wanted
to show you with a couple of simple prompts, and following the structure and the learnings that you have seen here using Ving gPT very, very rapidly, you can
have a quick analysis with one prompt about the fundamental
screens of a company. So let's move now into the
next part of this training, which is going into the
intrinsic iteration. Thank you.
18. Book value & Price to Book: Right, value investors. We have finished
Chapter number three, which was in fact the first
chapter where we're really discussing various fundamental
tasks that you have to do, which are more used as
a screening mechanism to filter out from your
investment universe. Already I'm some kind of
companies that could be cheap looking at those various ratios that we discussed, blue chips, earnings consistency,
price to earnings ratio, return to shareholders, ROIC, debt to equity debt and
interest coverage ratio. Remember that the analysis
of one ratio shall never be enough for you to invest into the stock market on
a specific company. Right? Now, we are starting
chapter number four, which is a very important
chapter as well, because we not do remember
when I was much younger. In fact, I'm now 50 plus, when I was much younger, I was always intrigued by
Warren Buffett when he was speaking about intrinsic
value and mean many, many years ago, I didn't not
really have a clue how to calculate the intrinsic
value of a company. And that's basically
what I tried to, all the learnings
that I was able to, let's say compound
and gather over the last more than two decades. Then I'm bringing up here
in this chapter number four and how in fact giving you various methods and
how to calculate the intrinsic value of
a company from there, in fact, that you
can compare it with the current share price and then decide if you have
this margin of safety. So remember this is again, what I'm showing
here in this graph. I told you in the very
beginning of this course, there is one graph
that I want you to keep in mind is this one. So typically what you
want to have is you want to be able to determine
the intrinsic value. So the real value, the accounting value
of the asset that you are potentially
willing to invest into. Being able to compare
the intrinsic, the underlying value of the
assets that you want to buy versus what the
market or a seller, if it will be private equity, is giving you and
what you want to have a margin of safety of
at least 25 to 30%. This is what I learned
from Warren Buffett and Benjamin Graham. Alright, And for that in fact, we will of course use various
approximation methods. Remember there is
no silver bullet, there is not one signal methods. There is. I mean, let's be very feather as one method is mostly used
by most of the people, which is a discounted cashflow, discounted free cash flow
to the firm calculation, but it's not the only one. And we will not be discussing
startups here we are really in the investment universe
of blue-chip companies, of mature companies that
are normally profitable. So I will leave the
Startup Valuation aside. That's something there's
a specific course on sort of valuations here. In fact, I'm gonna share
with you a couple of methods that you
could use in fact, to determine the
intrinsic value. So the first one we
will be discussing is the price to book. In fact, the price to book is something it's very
easy ratio to calculate. And it's basically
comparing the markets. So the firm's market
capitalization to its book value and to find
undervalued companies. Of course, as always, the price to book ratio as a
single ratio should never be used alone as a single
valuation of a company. And what I mean in terms of
interpretation, we will be, will be discussing this
through concrete examples of first very simple
theoretical example and then a concrete example on
Coca-Cola that I didn't 1,020. So what I can already say here is the lower the price to book, very productive means that
the company is undervalued. Why you need to, of
course, to be attentive is why is the market of the potential seller Providing
a price that is very low? Is it's related to the
company yes or no. And sometimes it can just
be that Mr. Market is depressed in general
above the market. And to be very fair, it happen to me multiple
times over the last decade, two decades that I was able to buy companies that were in fact having a price to book
ratio below one in fact. So here there's an important statement
I want to make here. So when we speak about the
book value of the company, it's basically the
equity value that you have in the balance sheet
to make it simple, right? So basically what
a company is worth and that's why I'm showing here very simplified balance sheet is you have the assets on the left-hand side of the assets are the conversion of the capital that has
been brought in, either through death tolls or through equity holders
into the company. And that's the assets
that are there. In fact, don't know, of
course, if the company has been generating profits, remember this flow number three. Then if the company has
decided to reinvest part of its profits in its own assets. That's flown number four, then of course the book
value will increase. I mean, we have been
discussing this, right? So the term book value of
the term equity value of a company is basically
what remains after. You are removing from the total amount of assets,
all the liabilities. That's basically the book
value of the company, right? So what I'm sharing here, It's the assets minus
the debt holders. So one very important thing
when you look, I mean, when you look at
how to calculate the book value of a
company, it's very simple. Again, you don't need a PhD, you don't need, I mean,
this is not rocket science. It's very simple,
but you need to understand the logic behind it. One of the things that
I always share with my students is that when you are willing to buy and assets, typically, like we're
speaking about, investing. So assets that generate profits, I'm not speaking a car. A car is not for me
and investment because the value of the car will
depreciate over time. But if you're investing
into company that has assets that are
generating profits, normally you don't buy a company for its
book value, right? And this is where we
will be discussing the methods of discounted
future earnings, discounted free cash
flow to the firm. Normally you buy a
company for what the assets will
generate in the future, then you decide on your
investment horizon. Is your future ten years down the road is it's 30
years down the road, as I tend to do for
very mature companies, because I believe
those companies will still be around in 30 years. That's very important
when you will understand. This fundamental thing is that you never buy a company
for its book value. So imagine that the market
is giving you the company at a price to book ratio of one
will be explaining this. In calculating this, it means that basically the
market is giving you the company just for what it is worth, removing
all liabilities. It means that the
market thinks that those assets minus
liabilities that remain if you're buying
them at a ratio of one, those assets will not generate
profits in the future. That's not logical, right? But it happens
from time to time. And this is where I want you as value investor to
understand this ratio. Because again, don't
buy a company for its equity or book
value by the company normally for the
future earnings, the future cashflows
that the company will generate on its book value. And this is where we
then discuss what is the ratio or the
multiple between, let's say what those
future earnings and future cashflows are telling
you versus the book value. But we will speak about that. That's another method
that we'll use later on for doing
the evaluation. That's the one I was using
the term discounted cashflow. The real term is discounted
free cash flow to the firm. That's really the one
that's typically is used in fact to do
valuation of companies. But we will discuss that in, I think it's in
the fifth, fourth, and fifth lesson of this
chapter, in fact, alright? So price to book ratio,
as already said, basically you take the total
amount of equity and you divide it by the total amount
of shares outstanding, diluted, of course, remember
you take the worst, the biggest figure that
is the diluted one, the price to book ratio of this because first we need to
determine the book value per share because
the market is giving you a per-share price. So you need to bring
it to the same unit, which is a book value per share. And then you compare
the market price to the book value per share. That's the PB ratio. So the price to book ratio. So you take the
current market share price and you divide it by the book value per share that you have in
fact calculated. Let's practice this first, first things first, a very, very extreme simple example. And then we go into Coca-Cola, which is a real-world example. So price to book ratio.
Remember the two formulas for us to calculate the
book value per share. We have here very
simplistic balance sheet. The company has 100 million of assets on the left-hand side, has 50 million of liabilities
on the right-hand side. And has, because of that, obviously the equity or book
value of the company is 100 -50 in terms
of liabilities on hundred million of assets
-50 min of liabilities. So the remaining book
value is $50 million. Imagine this
theoretical example, the company would have 25
million of shares outstanding. So the book value per share
is the total equity number, which is $50 million
in rats here on the right-hand side of liability divided by the number
of shares outstanding, That's 25 million of
shares outstanding. So it means that your book
value per share is 50/25. So it's true. In fact. Now, of course, what you
would need to think is, what's the current share price? And let's imagine that the
market would be, let's say, pricing this company
or one share of this company at
a price of four. So your price to book ratio, which is the current
market share price divided by the book
value per share that we just calculated being
of $2 would be four, because let's imagine
that would be the current share price for dollars divided by
the book value by $2. So price-to-book ratio
is of two infects. So what does this mean in
terms of interpretation? It means that that if you
would have infinite power, firepower, and you
would be able to buy the whole company basically. So from an accounting
perspective, the book value of the company
is worth 50 million, right? But with the price-to-book
ratio of two, it would mean that you
would have to spend $100 million to be able to buy 100% of the share
capital of the company. So let me again re-explain this. So if you would be able
to buy the whole company, that's just the book value. You would need to
buy the company and the book value per
share of $2 per share. So $2 multiplied by 25-minute
of shares outstanding. If you would have the
firepower with 50 million, if you would put 50
million on the table, it would be worth
at the book value of the company is worth. But the markets not giving you the company at the
price to book ratio of one. The current share
price is of four, so it's two times the book value would mean that in
order to buy that 25 million of shares outstanding and the current
share price of four. So 25 multiplied by four, you will need to put on the
table $100 million to buy 100% or so to become a 100%
shareholder of the company. So you're basically buying with a multiple of two
versus the book value, which is a 50 million. And you can bring this
back to a per-share thing. If you want to buy one share, you would need the book
value is worth two, but the market is
giving you at force. You need to pay twice the
amount of the book value. It's a book value of price to
book ratio of two low yes, it is because it would
mean that, I mean, of course we will
need to understand how much the company is, has been generating
profits in the past. But I mean, very probably let's imagine
that the company has been generated 10 million of profit on a normal
operating cycle with those 100 million of assets
would be an ROIC of around, let say ten per cent. Well, after five years, in fact, you already have, Let's say if you would
have spent $100,000,000, 50 million on top
of the book value. So five years of 10
million of profits. In fact, after the sixth year, it's full, full
profitability for you. This is how you need to think about this price to book ratio. In fact, I hope it's clear how you need to interpret this. Right? So the price to
book ratio typically was also very often news by
value investors for decades. And even Warren Buffett
has been speaking for very long time about this
price to book ratio. And very often value investors
have been considering that a good price to book
value would be in fact the price to book
ratio of below one. Again, as I said, when
markets are super depressed, you have great companies
that indeed are being sold below the book value. I'll give you a
concrete example. I have the case with BASF. I think I bought
a settlement time the company at €40 or share. I think at that time the
price to book was at zero dot seven BASF and
not go bankrupt tomorrow. So I was actually buying just the balance sheet of the
company at a 30% discount. So that's just crazy cheap. Of course. Again, one
ratio is not enough. You need to know that
the track record of the company as a company
good at generating profits. How much are you paying
versus its current earnings to avoid being trapped in what
is called the value trap. So those kind of things. So value investors
today consider that stocks that have price to
book value below three, cheap and even
below one dot five, it starts to become very cheap because you are buying nearly if you would have
unlimited firepower, you would buy the full price to book ratio of one
that five does with 50 per cent on top
of the equity value, you would be able to
buy the whole company. So the multiple is very, very low in fact. So of course the
ratio depends also. I mean, it depends
between industries. I mean, if you look
at tech companies, you will look at the
price to book value. I'm just speaking
about that ratio. Now, you may have companies where the
price to book value, and I'm considering
that you have an equity value
that is positive, otherwise the price to book, you may have a book
value that is negative. So imagine that, that
happens as well. But typically, in tech industry you have price to book
variations that are very, very, very, very high. We're speaking about Coca-Cola in the next slides
and then we'll share with you why Coca Cola's
stands today as well. So again, I just want here to repeat that one single ratio is not good enough to take
an investment decision, but the price to book ratio
is a very interesting one. And it allows to compare what is the market valuation
of the company versus what is the
accounting value of the balance sheet
of the company. But remember again,
you're not buying a company for the value
of its balance sheet. You're buying a company
for its balance sheet, but the earnings that
will be generated in the future on that
balance sheet, on the assets that are
sitting in the balance sheet. That's really the
logic behind it. Alright, a real-world
example after this, very simplistic to explain the interpretation
and how to calculate book value per share and
price to book ratio. So it's Coca-Cola. Coca-cola has been a
blue-chip companies since many, many years. I even think they are. Consider the dividend king
on dividend aristocrat, I think they have been for many, many decades
increasing the amount of cash dividends
being paid out. And when I did the analysis, I think today Coca-Cola
is rough cuts valued at 63 or $69 in April 2023. When I did the analysis in 2020, it was worth 40 eight.06. In fact, what I want you to do, so I've put here at the balance sheet on the
right-hand side, it's a US gap balance sheet. So we have the assets first
from very liquid to illiquid. Then you have the
liabilities of foreignness, short-term liabilities,
long-term liabilities, and then the equity part
on the left-hand side, we have the income statement. So what I want you to
do is I want you to calculate the price to book
ratio and to comment it. So in order to calculate
the price to book ratio, you need first to calculate the book value of the company. In order to calculate
the book value per share of the company, you need, in fact, take the total amount
of equity and divided by the total amount of
shares outstanding, take always the diluted one, which is the bigger denominator
that you will be using. So it will actually reduce
the book value per share. Then you compare it, compare it with 4806. Let's imagine it would be
the share price at that time because we're looking at it
2019 balance sheet as well. Alright, when you have
done the calculation, please then suppose
you are now try to look here in the balance sheet
and the income statement. Where are the figures
that you need? And then pause and
when you're ready to when you have done
the calculation, then please resume
because I will be explaining how to
do the calculation. Alright, so resuming here. So in fact, as I said, the first thing that you need to calculate is the book
value per share. So the book value per share is the total amount of equity. So in this case, 21 billion 098 divided by the total amount of shares outstanding diluted, which is a bigger number at which you're sitting
at that time and if 2019 at 4,000,000,314. So with that, in fact, if you do the
calculation, you have, in fact the book
value per share, calculate it at four
dots, $89 per share. And then you compare the photo, the 1800s dollar
per share with at that time it was April 2020. The market was, let's say, evaluating or selling Coca-Cola
shares at 40, eight.06. So take those 4806, that's the market price, the current market
price, at least at that time when the
analysis was done, and then divided
by the book value per share that you calculate on the 2019 full year
balance sheet, this gives you a ratio of 982. This is your price to book. Is it? Hi, Molly us. It means that you
would be buying ten times the balance sheet if you would buy
into the company. One detail here that, I mean, I'm really speaking, but there's much more in the art of reading financial statements, which is already more
advanced training for value investors. But one thing that I want
to be very clear here, I said that in order to calculate the book
value per share, that you take the total
amount of equity, you divide it by
the diluted amount of outstanding shares. In this case in Coca-Cola. When you look on the red
frame on the right-hand side, you see in fact
that Coca Cola has a total amount of equity
that is bigger than the equity attributable to the shareholders of
the Coca-Cola Company. You have a line in-between
that is not in bold, which says equity
attributable to non-controlling interests
sitting at 2,000,000,117. So this is now, let's say accounting technique, but I'll put it in a simple way. It happens that those big
companies like Coca-Cola, they have subsidiaries
that they do not own 100%, they may own them at 90%. 9085 per cent. Accounting rules allow
the company, Coca-Cola, group level to consolidate
100% of the balance sheet of the subsidiary into what you're seeing here in the balance
sheet on the right-hand side, for the remaining ten to 15% that are not
controlled by Coca-Cola. In fact, you will see in accounting terms in
the equity side, in the equity, let's say
items of the balance sheet. You're gonna see this line. This is equity, there's
attributable to shareholders that are
outside of Coca-Cola, e.g. the remaining 15 or ten per
cent of that subsidiary, e.g. so in reality, when
you have this setup, you would need to recalculate. And this is what I'm
doing in the next slide. So the book value per share, you should not take
21 dot $0.98 billion, but you should take
18000000981/4000000000 of shares outstanding, you would end up at the
book value per share of photo 39-year-old
zeros per share. And you see the effect
on the price to book. So before it was 982. Now as you are dividing
by four dot 39, in fact, you are ending up at a price to book ratio of 1094. So nearly ten per cent more, which is normal because, I mean, from 201098, I have removed basically
10% of the equity of minus 211 $7 billion, which are attributable to shareholders that are
outside of Coca-Cola. And you are in fact, if you're
buying a Coca-Cola share, you are Sharona of Coca Cola. You are not an non-controlling
interests shareholder. I mean, just be
attentive to that. It's a small detail. But you see that here in this case of Coca-Cola,
That's smart. I did it in a two-step approach. If you take the total
equity, in fact, you keep the non-controlling
interests inside, you're going to in fact, let's say overvalue
the book value per share on what you need to do
is really to think, well, there is a portion of Coca-Cola consolidated that if I
buy a Coca-Cola share, I'm not owning, So
we'd actually need to remove non-controlling
interests over total equity. Alright, so this is
a concrete example. So just wrapping
up here, I mean, as I said earlier, I think that Coca-Cola
is today April 2023, valued at 63, $70 per share. And I'm very quick looked at Morningstar on the
latest price to book. And indeed you see
at the price to book of Coca Cola
has been pretty constant at 11 to 12 times
over the last years. And how you interpret this? Well, it's expensive. So if you would just
consider the price to book and we'd consider
that all the other tests will be ticked off the price to book of Coca-Cola
with a multiple of 11 times buying
the balance sheet is for me just too much. I will show you in
the next lesson how potentially you could adjust the book value either by looking at intangible assets like
the brand value or e.g. property, plant, and
equipment that is very often carry it at cost in
the balance sheet. But we will discuss
adjusted book value and you will see how this
will impact in fact, the price to book of Coca Cola moving forward versus
what we just calculated. So talk to you in the
next lesson about adjusting the book value of the Coca-Cola Company
or not so general how to do the adjustment on
a book value. Thank you.
19. Adjusting Book value & Price to Book: Right, next lecture in
chapter number four, we are in the level
to course content. So this is more
technical one and the intention is
after having shared the fundamental screens
which are used in fact to filter out already on
your investment universe. Here we are really looking
into valuation of the company. We started with price-to-book. And I'm going to show you
in fact the how I do adjust the book value of companies
which obviously will have an impact on the price
to book ratio of, we're going to be practicing
this on Coca-Cola as well. So the first thing, I mean, mostly when I'm in something I learned also
from Warren Buffett, there are two main elements when being able to potentially review just the balance
sheet of a company, specifically the asset
side we're gonna be discussing about
brand valuation. We're gonna be
discussing the valuation of property, plant,
and equipment. So I started with brand first. And I in this course are really focused
on the brand thing. I will very quickly address the property plant
equipment readjustment. So remember that we were
discussing in the beginning, and I've been defining
what is Modes and modes, as you have understood are. So it's basically
brand strength. Those are companies, the
companies that have modes. It's, they have
an empire that is very difficult to attack because either it requires
huge amounts of capital that some people are not willing to put on the table. Or the brand is so strong that people will
just stick with the brand. Remember the example I was
sharing about Gillette, e.g. in the world of shaving
for men amongst others. When one of the things we will be discussing these in
level three as well. Another thing that
I like to look into as I do invest into
blue-chip companies. And you remember when I was
discussing my blue-chip, I was showing you how I set up my monitoring
investment universe. And I take, amongst others, the top 100 brands in the world. And I'm lucky there
are a couple of brand agencies like
Interbrand, Brand Z, etcetera, who in
fact provides on a regular basis the
valuation of those brands. And when you see about
valuation of the brands, you may ask yourself, well, how does this relate
to the book value? Well, in fact, in the balance
sheets, if you remember, so if I take a US
gap balance sheet, you have like the very
liquid assets like cash, cash equivalents,
inventory, then you go into more long-term tangible
assets like buildings, office space, so everything that is
property, plant and equipment. And then you have the
intangible assets and then you have to make it very simple. Two categories, goodwill,
the premiums that are coming from acquiring companies and the other intangible
assets are trademarks. It could be R&D as well. That would be potentially put into would not
be expanded but capitalized and also so
everything that is trademark. So this is where brands sit. They sit in the long term intangible assets of,
of the balance sheet. And IFRS remember, it's
just the other way around. So it would be the first long-term intangible
asset category. In fact, the main, the main question for
value investor is, how is the strength
of the brand? How can that be reflected
in the balance sheet? And is the company
already reflecting it? And what is the standard
that the company is taking? Is the company taking more defensive stance
or is it taking more aggressive
stance on valuing the brand and the strength
of the brand of the company. And as I said, we'll be discussing very quickly
the property, plant, and equipment
undervaluation that you typically have
in balance sheets, which will, of course then have an impact on the
price to book value, the book value per share. And I will also discuss
the brand valuation, which is an intangible
long-term assets. So a key question,
and actually it's a question I've been asked in a webinar that I've
been recording, sorry, that is not out yet for new, let's say training platform
in the US where they one of the one of New York
option trader asked me. But when you do the adjustments of a brand and we were
discussing Spotify, e.g. which is for me know,
the blue-chip company, but they have a strong brand. He was asked me, but are you
not counting twice when you are adjusting the balance sheet
with the brand valuation. And if you take the value
of Interbrand, e.g. and that brand value
is ten times higher versus the brand value that is carried in the balance
sheet of the company. I think that it requires some clarity and it's
something that I've only been adding now in this
course in 2000 2023 update, which is when you
discuss brand valuation. In fact, you have two ways
of reflecting and adjusting brand valuation in the financial statements
of the company. The first one is that you
would potentially in, because the company has a mode, has a strong brand, you would apply that to the
financial cash flow models. And we will be discussing
this in this chapter when we will be introducing you
to discounted cashflow, discounted free cash
flow to the firm, and discounted future
earnings as well, which is basically linked to
the income statement while the discounted free
cash flow to the firm is linked to the
cashflow statement. There. In fact, you could decide that in terms of
brand valuation, if the company has a strong
brand that you would adjust the revenue
and sales velocity, you would adjust revenue growth. You would adjust the
margin levers and investing expenses in those cashflow and future
earnings projections. The second way of, let's say, let's say integrating
the brand valuation is looking at the
intangible asset side of the balance sheet. And I have decided that's
a personal choice that I will focus on adjusting the
book value of the company. So adjusting the
balance sheet of the company for the first, let's say option that would
exist which is adjusting the cashflow and future
earning matrix, I consider. And it's a judgment call. That's why value investing
isn't odd as well. I consider that the
brand strength, if the company has already mode, is already integrated in
the current earnings, in the current margins, in the current revenue growth, in the current return
on invested capital for the last couple of years. In the consistency of profits for the last
five to ten years. There are indeed, and
that's my choice again, if I would then adjust
those variables, like revenue growth, margin levers the
amount of investing. I think then I would in
fact calculate twice. I've decided only to look if the balance sheet is
undervalued on property, plant and equipment, and intangible assets sides of this trademarks,
those kind of things. So that's a choice. You can agree, disagree to it. I'm just explaining why. When I'm taking the
value of a brand, I'm taking property, plant, and equipment that
is carried at cost. I'm only adjusting
the book value of the company and not
the discounted cashflow, discounted future
earnings because I believe that's
already integrated because you're basing your future assumptions
if there's a 1020, 30-year investment horizon
on already existing modes. So that mode already is
producing high profits. That's why you
have a high return on invested capital, e.g. which is basically showing high profitability,
the asset turnover. Alright, so I'm gonna give a concrete example on
Coca-Cola and Coca-Cola. This is the brand valuation. I think it was 2019 when
I did this exercise. And the logic you can take
the 2022 numbers is the same. So Coca, Coca-Cola in that year was position number five of the top 100
brands in the world. And it had Interbrand
Institute was estimating the brand value to be at 66,000,000,066, $341 billion. So I showing you the example, I took the balance
sheet of 2019 of Coca-Cola and you
can do the same today with the 2022
into brand valuation. You can do the same with
the 2022 balance sheet. If Coca-Cola, it
remains the same, just the figures
we change in 2019. In fact, when you look at the balance sheet on the
left-hand side of Coca-Cola, you see that Coca-Cola was referring to trademarks
with indefinite lives. That will carry it a valid
in the balance sheet at nine dots to $66 billion. Okay? So it means that I'm taking
maybe a shortcut here. I don't believe it's a
shortcut, but I mean, it's the only line that kind of mentioned there could be
other intangible assets, but that's just 62,017
million, so it's not huge. I've considered that
the trademarks with indefinite lives,
those nine dots, 2 billion, that's what interbrand has valid
at 66.3 billion. So basically, when I do this adjustment of the
book value of a company, if the company has
a strong brands. In this concrete example,
just do the math. I take the difference in order
to avoid counting twice. I take the difference
between what interbrand is giving me $663 billion, what the company carrots in its balance sheet so they value, let's say indefinite trademarks
that NANDA to Bill and the difference is 57
billion between the two. And I add this to
the balance sheet. So it's basically,
technically speaking, I'm increasing the amount
of trademarks 9-66. 606341. And I will show you how, what's the impact on the
calculations on book per share and also the price to book ratio versus what we just
saw in the previous lecture. You have the Simon Property
Plant and Equipment. And of course, if you
don't read the footnotes, will not know that
typically lands. If it is IFRS companies
or US GAAP companies, that land is first of
all, not depreciate it. And very nearly all the time, land is carried at cost. But we all know, I mean, if you bought, if you bought a piece
of land 30 years ago, just due to natural inflation, that piece of land is worth
much, much more today. And I'm going to show
you it's an extract from a more advanced course that is called the art of
company valuation, where I've did a
precise calculation how to readjust the
book value of Reshma of this luxury brand
holding by really looking at the land
that they were carrying in their balance sheet. This is what I'm showing
here. Those are three slides. Again, it's not the
purpose in this course. The other value investing, I'm purely focusing on brands and Mode Adjustment
on the book value, not an adjustment of the PPE, but I mean, to be completing
the explanations, there is an
opportunity to adjust the book value of companies in their balance sheets
book value by looking how much land they
carry and then potentially readjusting
because that land, except if I mean, if the soil is contaminated
and there would be a cost to, let's say, clean that up. But if it is normal land, that land has increased
a lot in value. And now what's showing here? I show you the three
slides very quickly. So really small in
fact has rough cuts. Property, plant equipment
worth 99 to 10 billion. To make it simple. With accumulated
depreciation, It's like net PP&E is like 6
billion rough cuts. And in fact, the land that
they carry, of course, need to find out what
has been the cost of inflation where they
are having the assets. You imagine that this takes
more time to evaluate. And in fact, I
looked into it for the other company valuation
advanced training. I looked into all the
balance sheets of the company since 1989 to 2020. I estimated that there wasn't 148 million undervaluation on
the land assets of Reshma. So of course what did I do? And I'm going to
show it now here on the brand because
it's the same thing. It's an asset that
I'm readjusting, that I'm increasing,
not artificially. It's just that I'm
making a judgment call on the asset that is carried
in the balance sheet, how it is reported
by the company, and how I believe it
should be reported. If I mark the lands to
the current market value, and if I mark the brand value
to its market value on the, on the balance sheet only, not on the discounted cashflow, discounted future earnings
for what I was explaining before he ended concrete
example of Coca-Cola. So we have a balance
sheet of Coca Cola. And remember I was showing this in the
previous lecture that Coca-Cola has 2
billion rough cut of non-controlling interests. So that's, let's say percentage of
scholarship that is outside of normal shareholder. And those are minority
shareholders. But Coca-Cola has
fully consolidated their assets and liabilities
in the balance sheet. The equity book value of
Coca-Cola, if you remember, was 189814, rough cut
photo 3 billion of shares. So total amount of shares
outstanding, diluted, right? So you remember what I just mentioned a
couple of minutes ago. So I'm adding 57 billion
because Coca Cola is carrying its trademarks with
indefinite lives at nine was at $9 to 2 billion. Interbrand is telling me what the brand of Coca-Cola is worth. In fact, the asset, the intangible asset
is worth 57 billion. Sorry, it's worth,
that's the difference. It's worth 66 dots 3 billion. So I'm adding just a difference between the two to
avoid double counting. So I'm adding to
the trademark line. I'm adding, I'm going
from nine dots to, to infect those six
is six to 3 billion. So I'm adding 57 billion of us dollars of
trademark value. What is the impact of that? Because remember on my balance
sheet has to be balanced. So i'm, I'm changing, I'm increasing the asset
side automatically. I'm just increasing the
equity side because that's the only way I can
reflect in fact, the change addition
in brand values by recalibrating the balance
sheet on the equity side. And of course, this has an impact because I then have to recalculate
the price to book. You remember that we were
having a price to book value of 1094 in the
previous lecture. And by increasing the
book value by 57 billion. So my total equity becomes
76 billion instead of 189. So my adjusted book value
per share is now 17, $63 per share at that, I mean, taking the
fingers of 2019. If I was thinking about buying
the company early 2020, in fact, I would then do
an adjusted price to book. So what has changed is just the value of the
equity that has changed. I'm no longer on the
book value per share, taking the equity
of 189 billion and dividing it by the total amount of shares outstanding diluted, which was photo three. But now I'm taking
the $76 billion and dividing it by the same amount of shares diluted, outstanding. And then I have a
book value per share, which is 17, not 63. Then I adjust, of course, the price to book because I have a new book value per share, my market price has not changed
at that moment in time, keeping the figures
constant so that you can compare with
the previous lecture. So at that time the
market was giving me a coca-cola shared
Fourier dot $6 per share. Now I'm dividing by the
adjusted book value per share, which is now a 17, 63 years dollars per share. And suddenly my adjusted price to book
ratio came down 1094-2, the value of 72. So you see how brand companies
that have strong brands, you can in fact adjust
the balance sheet and at least on
the price to book, it will tell you, I mean, having a price to book of 11 versus a price to
book of two dots 72. It's a different
story. You remember that I said that value
investors like to have price to book value
that are below three. I'd love to have
them below one dot five and even to have them below one because it's telling
me that the market is giving me the company at a discount just on
its balance sheet, not even looking at
the future earnings in the future profits
that the balance sheet, so the assets of the
bank to regenerate. That's, that's what I
wanted to share with you. So you may argue that you
agree or disagree with this, but that's also something
that I learned from Warren Buffett that you have, at least from my learnings
over the last two decades, you have those two elements that are typically undervalued for blue-chip companies is
the string of the brands. And it's very often the land
and sometimes the buildings, but the land very
often if you read the accounting policy footnotes, it mentioned that the land is
very often carried at cost, but if that land has been
bought 40 years ago, sorry, just because
of inflation. If that land was bought at 100 million and that
land is valued at 100 million without
depreciation in the asset side of the
balance sheet, it says 100. Of course it has an
impact on the equity, but it's maybe worth 300. So you would need to add 200 million to the
equity side as well. So those are I will
not say tricks, but this is judgment
which is required. And this is the beauty of
cost of having strong brands. Because if you have
a small company that doesn't have, let's say, pricing power towards
its customers and customers easily switch from
one brand to the other. Well, there, I mean, you will
not have the opportunity to adjust the book
value of the company. So to adjust the balance sheet, maybe you can adjust it on
the land very probably, but on the brand, on
the intangible asset, you will not be able to do that. So this is something so the adjustment of the book value
on the intangible asset, It's by the way, is something
that you can do as well for growth companies
at something e.g. that I did for Spotify in this webinar that I recorded
a couple of weeks ago that will be hopefully
published very soon by this new US investment
learning platform. But, but that's
something that is applicable as well
to growth companies. But remember, we're
not looking at just one ratio to take
an investment decisions. But here I'm giving
you ways on how to do the intrinsic
valuation of companies. And first, I've started with the book value of a
company per share, and then also now the adjusted
book value per share. And through the multiple that comes out of
that calculation, the price to book or the
adjusted price to book. It gives you an indication if the market is considering
the company to be expansive of the
market is giving potentially the company
way at a bargain. So that's the kind of
thing that you need to know as well and you
need to read this. Of course, this is reflected in the Excel file in
the companion sheet. So you will have
the opportunity to, I add in fact the brand value. Then depending on that, there's
gonna be an adjustment. So you're going to
have the calculations of adjusted book
value per share, an adjusted price to book
next to the book value and standard price to book as well in the companion sheets. So wrapping up on this one and in the next one
will be discussing dividend discount
valuation models with growth, without growth. But we will discuss in the
next lecture. Thank you.
20. Dividend discount valuation models, growth model & total shareholder return: A comeback investors
chapter number four. So you remember we
are in the level two part of the tests
and level two-week. Remember, we are discussing valuation methods or
calculation methods to estimate the intrinsic value of the company that we are
potentially interested in. So in the first two
lessons of this chapter, we discuss price to book, so we were able to determine
a book value per share. And also I showed
you how to adjust as well the book value per
share take into account e.g. brand valuation and or
property plan and equipment. In this third lesson, we'll be discussing dividend
discount models. In fact, it's not just one. But you're going to see
that I will be introducing three ways on how to
in fact calculate, approximate the valuation,
the intrinsic value of company by looking at its dividends and share
buybacks as well. So something that I already shared with
you a couple of times, but I will repeat it. Sorry for that. I will
continue repeating this a lot of times is when
investors buy companies. If you are buying a share of
a publicly traded companies, typically, you should have two type of cashflow
expectations. The first one is while
your money sit still, if you remember what I said, that you get dividends
or some kind of passive return while
your money sits still. From the moment you have
bought the company until potentially the day you are
selling of your position. And a second, Let's
say kind of return is when you are selling your stock at the end
of the holding period, of course you're hoping
to sell the stock. So you hope, I hope
for you that you have both the stock
with a margin of safety it wasn't versus intrinsic
value 25 to 30% below its IV. And the second cashflow that
you will receive is in fact, the moment you sell
your position that you will see written
coming in there. So when selling the shares of the company that you bought, maybe one to three years ago. So those are the typical two
types of caches that you have to think about when. And in order to determine
the intrinsic value, you can actually on the
first type of cashflow, use the dividends during
the holding period to estimate the intrinsic
value of the company. And I'm introducing
here what is called the dividend discount model. And why, why can we use dividends as a way to determine the intrinsic
value of a company? Well, it's pretty easy. In fact, let's say
pretty straightforward. Not necessarily easy,
but it's pretty straightforward as it is. One of the only two caches
that you will see is in fact, you could make the sum of all
the cashflows that you are expecting from the company in the future, of course,
risk-adjusted. So we have to adjust that to the amount of risk
that the company, in fact carriers, remember
this risk versus return. If it's a small cap company, the risk premium will
be higher if it is a big cap company,
omega cap company. And potentially you
have also learns how to look at the solvency like if the debt
to equity ratio, interest coverage
ratio, or goods, probably the annual
returns have to be brought a little bit
lower, of course, always above the cost
of inflation and above you're expecting
to have written that is above your
cost of capital. So basically what
we will be doing and we will be doing this
in the next lesson as well. We will be bringing into
its present value of expected future cash
flows and discount them at a cost of capital or return expectation that you have related to its riskiness. So the two initial models, I will be introducing
the third one later on. But the two initial models
that we will be discussing and practicing is in
fact the first one is a stable growth
dividend discount model. So it will be
abbreviating it TDM, where in fact the
company in the future. I mean, what you can expect is that the dividend will not grow. We're speaking here really
about cash dividends. And we are speaking about them pre-tax to be precise,
not after-tax. You need to take into
account that you may lose maybe 15 to 25%, 30% of the amount
that we're discussing here just because of
your tax exposure and this is country dependent. So what I'm saying is that the first model
being introduced is the stable growth
dividend discount model. The formula for
that is pretty easy as we are thinking about valuing the share of a company by bringing
to its present value, the sum of all the
expected future cash flows discounted at a rate which is appropriate or
which is risk-adjusted. In fact, the formula for
the value per share of a stock using the dividend discount model
method is basically. You sum up all
expected dividends per share and the future, and you divide it by
your cost of equity, which would be your
cost of capital. But as you're not raising debt, and typically dividends
also linked to equity. If you would look at the
Guatemala Iran valuation books also is always dimension
of cost of equity, but you could say its cost
of capital, it's the same. So that's the first formula
that you have to know. And of course, in
the companion tree, this is being calculated
automatically, but you will need to
tell the model in the excellent companion
sheet is what is the amount that the company has been paying off
in the latest year? And this will be taken as an assumption then to estimate
the future cash flows. And of course discounted
at the rate that you will have decided to put it
in the companion sheet. The second model is called
the Gordon Growth Model. And you may recall that we discussed briefly already dividend kings and
dividend aristocrat. So you have companies
that for the last 25, last 50 years have been increasing their
dividends year over year. So the dividend discount
model would not be able to reflect this in, let's say in the formula. So the Gordon Growth Model has, in fact is an extension of the EDM model and the formula
goes the following way. So the value per share of stock for Gordon
Growth Model is in fact the expected
dividends per share over time until infinity. And you're dividing
your cost of capital, but from your cost of capital, you are in fact removing
or subtracting, in fact, your
dividend growth rate. And we will be practicing this. Let's see a concrete example. So you have on the top
here the two formulas. So you have the value
per share of stock, which is then tagged as the DEM, that's the dividend
discount model. No growth on dividends
in the future. And the value per
share of stock. This tag, g, g, m, That's Gordon Growth Model. You see that there is
difference in the formula. So if we take a
stock share that we provide is zero dot
$5 per share pretax. And let's imagine
that your cost of capital expectations
are of six per cent, no growth, the value per share of the stock using
dividend discount model. So no dividend
growth expectations. The calculation you will
provide as a result of $833 per share. Of course, now you would need to compare what is the market at? What price is the market
giving me that share? And do I have my 25 to 30%
safety margin, yes or no? And I will show you how to do that in a couple of minutes. The second, so the value
per share of stock. But following this time, the Gordon Growth Model,
let's assume again, it's an assumption
that that company has been growing and we expect
that will continue to grow. It's a cash dividend per share pretax at a yearly rate of 3%. And the amount the latest
dividend that has been paid out has been zeroed out five years dollar
per share pretax. And you consider that
we can live with a cost of capital or cost of
equity expectation of 6%. You see that your zero dot
five-years dollar per share, in fact no longer divided by 6%. So by 006, zero.06, but this time it will be thorough five-years all
appreciate divided by zero.06 minus 003,
expressed in percentages. So it's zero dot
five-year-olds dollar per share divided by 003. So it's in fact twice as high as accompany the same company
that would pay out the same amount of cash
dividends on the road, five years on a per share, but without dividend growth. So here you, of course,
you see the power of the dividend growth because it allows you to value
in this example, the value of the
company is in fact multiplied by two for
one single share. This is not part of
the companionship, but I'm just showing here
for educational purposes, if in fact you would
bring this in turn, you can do this for yourself
into a table where you have, in fact the years one to 50, you have the discount rate. So if I just quickly come
back to the formula. So the discount rate is
basically when you are bringing to present value a
monetary amounts. In fact, you're
taking that amount, you dividing it by our cost of capital exponential, the year. That is a wave from now. If it is, you are discounting zero dot $5 per share next year, you are then dividing by zero.06
exponential one in fact, which is then
divided by zero.06. This is called the
discount rate. If you are looking
at an amount of zero dot $5 in two years time, you are in fact, your discount rate will be
6% exponential Tussaud's. So six per cent square. In fact, this is what I'm
showing here on the table. So of course, I mean, you don't have to, let's
say do this manually. In the companion sheets. Those calculations are done
manually. So you see e.g. with a discount rate, the discount rate evolves. This is normal between the
years one to ten to 15, 20, up to the 55 years
I've calculated. So of course you
see here the effect of calculating the present
value and discounting. Also the discounting the
cost of equity depending on how far that streamer
of money will be away. Because you remember from
the inflation conversation, That's the value of
money changes over time and you see that next
year, I have decreased it. I mean, you see that the
discount rate is 94. But you said e.g.
in 50 years time, of course, because of inflation, bring into present value, the same flow of
money is actually extremely low at that
moment in time because 50, $0.50 in 50 years time is
nearly with nothing it's worth. In fact, then you
see the calculation, the third line, the present value of the
dividends per share. So in 50 years, this 50 cent is
in today's money, in today's purchasing
power worth $0.03. So you see how the discount rate works next year, the $0.50. So you take the first column, which is year one. So we have gross dividends
per share of zero dot 50. But this countered,
it will be zero dot 47 worth because in
one year's time, the purchasing power
will have been reduced. If you do the intermediate sum, you see in fact that
after 50 years I've been adding in fact all
the present values of the dividends per share. You see in fact that
after 50 years I have an accumulated sum
of seven to 88. That's what you see on
bullet point number three. We are again speaking
about accompany you have this again
just repeating here on Britain number one, we have, we're simulating
a cost of equity of 6%, growth rate of 0%. The latest dividend per
share has been 050, and we believe it will
continue to remain at 00:50. And you will see, I just estimated the payout
ratio at 50 per cent, but that's not necessarily
hearing potent. See that on bullet point
number two in the red frame that the dividend discount
model without dividend growth, as we have put in zero, It's giving us this eight, 33%. And what is interesting
when you compare the value of the bullet point number two and the bullet
point number three, is that remember that this
dividend discount model is actually calculating
this to infinity. What is the share price worth under the assumption that dividends will be
paid out forever. And you see that the dividend
discount model formula is giving us a value that
goes beyond the 50 years. So it's giving us $833. So 11 share of that company
would be worth a dot 33. While you see that after
50 years, I was Let's say, only able to accumulate
valuation of 788. What you see on the
bullet point number three at the very
right hand side, which is actually I'm adding
the dividends of your number 409-40-8407 up to one. So this is adding up. In fact, you'll see that even after 50 years, the BDM formula, which is normal because DTM
formula goes to infinity, is in fact beyond 50 years
of accumulated dividends. Now, when you do now, the same, but we are now using the
Gordon Growth Model formula. So remember that we are taking an assumption
in the future. The company would continue
to grow its dividends. And so we keep the cost of
equity uses on the right, on the left-hand side, sorry, on the bullet point number one, we keep the cost
of equity at six. We have the growth rate
of dividends at 3%, latest dividend per
share being at 00:50. And the Gordon Growth
formula in fact, is calculating us that
that company is worth 16 $67 per share. So remember we saw this
in the previous slide. And you see in fact that
when you compare this value with the accumulated sum of
dividends after 50 years, we add 13.08, which again is now because the formula is
calculating to infinity. And here we're only calculating
and making the sum. So we're stopping at, if you would come
back to the formula, we're starting at, T is one. So t is year one up to n, which is the amount of
user will be counting. We would stop at 50. While those formulas, the
n is in fact infinity. So it's normal that
both values in fact, beyond what I've been
able to calculate up to 15 years or
two, sorry, 50 years. Alright, One of
the things as well that I wanted to
show you here is, of course you are. You have to think about, okay, So I was able to calculate with the dividend discount
model formula and with the Gordon
Growth Model Formula, an intrinsic value of that
share of one single share. Here I'm making assumptions because we want to determine
the margin of safety. And I said already couple of times you typically
buy a company with at least 25 to 30%
of margin of safety. So what I did is if following coming back to this
famous payout ratio, I just considered,
Remember that I want to be in the payout ratio,
cash difference 30-70%. So I just said here, for the sake of the trainee, making it simple is that
the payout ratio is 50%, but 50 per cent of what? Of the earnings per share. So this is why you see in the frames can stay now here with the Gordon
Growth Model formula. You see that below
the GM formula, you have the EPS
earnings per share. Obviously, if the company is paying out in
flow number six, remember the flows 45.6, if the company is paying
out on flow number six, 50% of its profits, It's total profits
are $1 per share, and 50 per cent of those profits are going
back to shareholders. Another form of cash dividends. Here, the share price is
a pure assumption, okay? So, um, it's just for the
sake of the training. Just imagine that the share
price of the company, the publicly traded chapters of this company
is sitting at 14. Okay? So the question is now, you remember that
we have calculated that for the EDM formula, one share is worth 833 years dollars and
for the Gordon Growth, one choice with 16.67. So of course what
is interesting is that I mean or not
interesting is that the dividend discount
model formula is calculating the
intrinsic value of the company below its
current share price of 14. 14 has been taken out of thin air is just for
explaining here. But what is interesting is
that the share price of the company in the Gordon
Growth Model formula is worth 606071 of the publicly traded share
price of the company is at 14. So basically the Gordon
Growth formula is telling you that you
have in 19 per cent, so that's the dollars 67. So it's the difference 1667-14. So you have $2.67 of safety, margin of safety, and
that is the equivalent of 19 per cent. So it means that the
market today if you're only using the Gordon
Growth formula. And again, that's an assumption
because of equity is 6% growth rate of
dividends to infinity 3%. And we expect that the
latest dividend per share is the right base. And this will in fact
only grow in the future. And you'll see this
on the second line, gross dividends per share. Next it will be 0 525-035-5506, etc, etc, up to $2 1950
years with that assumption. If that assumption is correct, well then in fact, the market is giving you
the company at 19 per cent discount using dividend
cash flows, right? And you may now challenge, but how can this be? Of course, it's easy because we clearly see that the Gordon Growth Model formula is kind of making the K is
super positive versus dividend discount
model which does not carry dividend growth
in the future. But does Gordon Growth
in reality exists? And you remember, I was already mentioning couple of times different kings and a
dividend aristocrats. They do exist. So dividend aristocrat is
a company that has been more than 25 years increasing its dividends and
is listed in the S&P 500. That's typical definition of
an aristocrat and the King is a company that's
for the last 50 years, has been increasing its
sovereignty over here. And it's not necessarily
in the S&P 500. Do those companies exist? Yes. And that's the reason
also why I have or I tried to have them in my in
my portfolio in fact, so e.g. 3M, the first listed company or they're listed
in alphabetical order. I was able to buy them
at a certain point in time when the market was
little bit depressed, about 3M Company has
always been listed at around 100, $130-150 a share. And the company, because of
legal litigation, et cetera, has in fact bringing it down, but the dividends
remain very strong. But again, it's not a service station for
you now two by three m, but RAM is one of the
companies that are alike. I was never able
to buy Coca-Cola at that time when I was even writing the training and have been publishing
in August 2020. But when I was writing
it in 19-2020. Coca-cola was around
at $48 a share. And I said to myself, it comes below 45 because I didn't my intrinsic value
calculation, I would buy it. But there are other companies
like Johnson and Johnson, Procter and Gamble,
Colgate-Palmolive. Those are companies
that are like as well. They are part of the top 100
brands in the world as well. So is there a correlation between one and the
other? A little bit. There is a correlation
between companies that have strong modes and are able to grow the dividends
year over year. In Europe, e.g. you
have Nestle e.g. that I had in my portfolio. I started with a
profit because it was then listed above
its intrinsic value. I'm BASF, I will share with
you in a couple of slides. It's one that I still have. It's one of my biggest
positions with 3M. I mean, they are growing their dividends is what I'm showing in the graph on
the right-hand side, they continue to
grow the dividends. So we have now two formulas for companies
that pay out dividends, cash dividends, I mean, to calculate the
intrinsic value, this is likely with the
holy grail for investors, you want to be able to
calculate a price and a Capet that your calculated price with what the market
is giving you. Do not forget that
you need to apply level of tests and not just blindly buying a company because you having
a margin of safety of 30% on a dividend
discount model, the company has to pass the
level one test as well. So it's like low price to book, low price to earnings, low debt to equity, high interest coverage ratio. So it doesn't get into
solvency troubles. For me. At least it has
to be blue-chip company. The company has to have
a mode in the sense that it's a profitability
powerhouse with return on invested capital consistently close to
eight to nine to 10%. The company has to generate profits consistently for
510 years in the road. Do not forget that it's
about that as well. So with those tasks, you're going to filter
out already companies that are in bad financial shape. And then you will be
using this model is the level two screens or the level of two methods to then determine if the market
is currently attractive, is giving you the company
at a good price or not. This is what we are discussing and so please do
not forget that. Now you may wonder, are you or maybe you
would like to ask me, but can you, not all companies pay out cash dividends rights? And you remember that I
mentioned also in the past, in one of the previous lectures that in the past, in fact, dividends became less attractive because shareholders
are exposed to attacks treatment on their
cash dividends that they are receiving on this
cash inflow that is coming to that broke
or bank accounts. The company is in fact, to avoid having
shareholders pay taxes. They turn in fact to
doing share buybacks. So basically what
is a share buyback, as already mentioned
in previous lectures, is the company is
in fact buying from the market this same shares
that you are holding. In fact, what is
the effect of that? Well, it's actually artificially increasing the book value
of one singular share. If you do not remember that, go back to the price to book, Let's say evaluation lessons where we have been
discussing this. So basically, this is
a way of increasing the value of one
single shares by reducing the amount
of shares that are in fact dividing the whole equity. And because there
are less shares out there as you're dividing
the equity by last shares, the equity per share. So the book value per
share is going up. In fact, it's very easy
if you have an equity of 1000s and you're dividing
by 1,000 shares, your book value is worth one. If you're having 1000s
of equity and Nevada, by half of that, your equity just has been multiplied by two. In fact, the book value per share has been
multiplied by two. Alright? So as I said, this has been become, let's say, more regular for, I mean, specifically for a
big tech companies, they tend to do more
share buybacks and spend a lot of money on share buybacks versus
cash dividends. But not only. And this has become more attractive over last
two to three decades. In fact, I would say before. I mean you, if you
read old books, share buybacks were
in fact not existing. So what I want to share
here with you is the following is that
basically a share buyback, Can we consider likely yield
in terms of percentage? So you could actually, as we have been calculating that a zero dot $5 per
share dividend on, let's say on $115 share. Well, that is a yield
that is returned. And you remember when
we were discussing passive income that I am expecting at least to have somewhere around
at least four per cent of passive income
of cash dividends, maybe share buybacks as well, but at least after tax, That's what I want to have. So here I'm showing
you how in fact, the dividend discount
model methods and Gordon Growth Model methods
have to be adjusted. To bringing a notion
that did not exist like very weakly 50 years
ago or 60 years ago, which is adding
to those formulas are mobilizing the
share buybacks as well. So here I'm introducing
and I'm calling this the total shareholder
return model, because that's the total, let's say if you're looking at the flows number
six, That's a total. It's the sum of all the
cashflows that are going somehow directly cash dividends or indirectly share buybacks
to the shareholders. So basically I'm adding supplemental variations to
Dividend Discount Model, gone growth model, which
are the following. I calling I'm abbreviating the turtle shell are written
as TSR to make it short. So we have DTM to GM and TSR. The TSR one is mobilizing the share buybacks
spanned by the company. And we are in fact
considering that the share buybacks will be increasing at the same rate
that dividends in the future. So if it is zero, it's zero. If we expect in
dividends to grow at 2%, we can take the assumption that the company is also a will be, let's say, a growing
to share buybacks at a rate of two per cent
in the future as well. Does this make sense? I mean, of course it's arguable. It's risky as well
because I mean, it's huge amounts of money
that has to be spent. But it's one way of looking at things and always
keep in mind. Here we're doing a
modelization, right? So it's not the silver bullet, but it gives you an approximation
of the intrinsic value of the company between
the DDMS, the Gmail, and the TSR one model, the tears are two mole is a more reasonable approach where you could actually use
the Gordon Growth Model. So the expected dividends per share in the future
divided by cost of equity minus the
growth expectations. And you add to that value the expected share
buybacks per share. And we will be practicing this. And you're dividing this
only by the cost of capital. But we are considering
that the amount of share buyback will
remain constant. That's the TSR to model. So let's just for the
simplicity here of the model, consider the Ts are one model. So the Ts 1 mol, as I said, is expected earnings per share plus expected share buybacks. Prussia, expressing
amount of US dollars per share divided by cost of equity minus the growth rate for both. We are considering that
the growth rate is linear. So let's imagine that company a that we have been
analyzing so far is providing a pre-tax even
pressure of zero dot value as our Prussia has a
cost of capital of 6%, that's your expectation
in terms of return. And we can use the assumption
that the company will grow its dividends for
3% up to eternity. Assumption here in 2019, we're looking at 1900's
simulation in 2019, the company spent $100 million. And at that time
the share price, as we already saw, was $114. The total amount of shares
outstanding diluted at that time was 500 million. So how much shares
was the company able to buy back with 100
million of cash spent? Basically the company was
able to spend, in fact, or TBI back 100 million of cash expense divided by 14
years dollar per share. Let's imagine that the spans
the whole 100 million on one day on the market was giving the shepherds
of the company at fought in US dollars. So this is giving us in
fact a certain amount of, it's seven dot 142
million of shares. And so the new number of
shares In fact outstanding, diluted is no longer having
done this 500 million, but 500 million minus 7142 because the company has just remove 7 million
shares from the market. So the total amount
of outstanding shares diluted has come down from 500 million
to be precise, found at 92 dots, 86 million of shares. That's one dot 42 per cent
less versus the previous year. So with that, in fact, you already see this is
a return of one dot 42%. In fact, the total amount
of outstanding shares. And if you do this, you can bring this figure. And this is something I, the first time I heard
it was during a podcast. So it was one of the annual
shareholder meetings of Warren Buffett. I did not understand
to be very honest, how it was calculating the buyback per share
on the monetary basis. I understood how it would be calculated from a return
percentage perspective. There's something I
learned from him, So I mean, kudos to him because
he was able to read 22, I would say to make
it clear to me how he was bringing this on a monetary basically is
also currency basis. Euro, US dollar,
whatever, yen, etc. How this is calculated, the buyback per share in currency terms is you
take the share price. Let's imagine it was at $14 and you multiply
it by one dot 42%. And this is giving you a
monetary currency value of 019, $88 per share. So this is what we need. It is this one dot for it to present written on
one single share. That is worth 019 $88. Now, coming back to the turtle shell or written
formula number one, we can in fact ads. So we have the
expected dividends per share that will
add zero dot 50. We are now adding the 01988 and then dividing
by the cost of capital or by your
written expectations minus dividend growth,
that was sitting at 3%. And this is where we will
be in fact ending up. I'm showing you here the
value of the stock T as R1 in black bolts. So we are in fact
landing at a 23, $29 value per share. In fact, with this TSR one, because if we are leaving
aside share buybacks, in fact, we're not
looking at the total written that is
provided to shareholders. Again, it's true this
return of zero dot 1988 will not hit
your bank account, will not hit your
brokerage account. It's fictive. But normally what happens
is that the market will see this and
the market will adjust and the share price should actually be growing from 142 more because there are less shares outstanding that are dividing the total
amount of equity. So if we express this in terms of yields in percentage value, so the cash dividend
yield is $5 on $14, the company is providing a pre-tax dividends
yield of three, 57%, so pre-tax, so it's still below my four per cent that I want to have after taxes. But I could add in fact the
one not 42% share buyback. And oh, interesting, my total shareholder return expressed in percentages
is sitting at $4, 99%, which is 3.2, 57 cash dividend yield plus a one-node 40 to
share buyback yields, and that is giving me a
return pre-tax of photo 99. You see how this is calculated
and this is extremely powerful and not a lot
of people are in fact, considering that dividends are an extremely powerful tool, not only to get passive
income from the company, but also to be able to estimate what is the intrinsic
value of a company. Alright? So basically now
we can wrap this up because we have
been able to create or to define intrinsic
valuation models for no growth coming from dividends for no growth
dividends in the future. That's the dividend
discount model. We have the Gordon Growth Model, that is value of a stock
with dividend growth. So it's the expected
dividends pre-tax per share divided by cost of equity minus the growth
assumption to infinity. Then we have the value
of the stock with dividend growth plus
share buybacks. And then I'm using the TSR one just to give me
an approximation. Even though of course, it may say provide even a
better figure than this 16, 67 years that we had on
the Gordon Growth Model. But still, it's afterwards, of course, to me to be able to judge if that makes
sense or not. Here you have. So I've extended
the first two tables to the third table with
the TSR one formula. And you'll see in fact how by using those three
valuation methods, a dividend discount model, no dividend growth
and share buybacks, is calculating us
an intrinsic value of one single shell
that company at 08:03. Three Gordon Growth Model with a 3% growth assumption with
the cost of equity of six, is calculating us the value per share of stock for the
Gordon Growth formula at 16, 67 years dollars per share. And the TSR, we are adding
the share buybacks to it. And with that, in fact, you, we are actually other models are calculating an intrinsic value
of the company at 23:29, of course, at the
share price of 14. With those valuation models, the margin of safety
is of 66 per cent. What you can do with the
TSR formula as well. You can just put growth to zero. And then of course
it has our formula. We'll consider that
there's linear, Let's say dividend per share. And there is a
linear flats share, buyback per share and
met considering that those two values will remain
constant over the future, the tiers of the formula
is able to calculate this if you bring in a
growth rate of zero, e.g. or maybe you want to be a little bit offensive, a
little bit of gold. You put in zero dot five
per cent return a t 1%. But this will be automatically calculated in the
companion Sheet. Alright, good. So now as I said, you need, not only, I mean, it's great that you have
now already a first set of formulas that is
able to tell you. The company is worth. So this intrinsic
value calculation. And of course, what
is important is to understand what is
your margin of safety. And this is what
I'm showing here. At current share price of $14. Dividend discount
model is not giving me the right margin of safety. I'm missing 40%. So I'm in fact, the market is giving me
the company at 14% above. It's valid, it's real
value, its intrinsic value, with the assumptions of no dividend growth zero dot
five-years or a pressure. And of course, the
cost of equity of six, if you would change
the cost of equity, if you would bring it down, the intrinsic value would
go up if you're dividing by a higher cost of capital
because the risk is higher, intrinsic value will go down. In fact, this how the models work. With the Gordon Growth. We're having 19% of margin of safety and with a t
as our one model, we have a 3% growth to eternity we're having
and cost of equity of six, we're having 66 or 36%. One thing here then
our n already can drop because it's a question
that comes up often. Also when I'm doing the
webinars from time-to-time, is the conversation about what should my cost of equity
and my cost of equity, cost of capital actually be? I do believe that in a
2% average inflation, That's something 6-7% should
be your cost of capital. I made ones oppose the couple. I think it was like You're
a one-and-a-half years ago, where, I mean, we're still in
high-inflation environment. Even though the inflation
is coming down. Also due to monetary policy of the central banks and the
US Fed Federal Reserve. Probably today, I would say
maybe factor in something 7-8% just to reflect a little bit the short-term
peak in inflation. But again, that's your choice. I mean, I can, of course, this has to
be above inflation. Again, inflation related
to investment horizon, inflation will not stay at
7% for the next 30 years. I promise you that that's not
work, that will not work. Then we're going to have
other kinds of troubles. So basically you could
then say and bring this visually into what I have set up here on
the right-hand side, like what is your
margin of safety? And basically you
have three zones. You have one zone where the current share
price is in fact, too high versus intrinsic value. We have a zone where in fact,
the undervaluation zone, where the share price is that you could buy today the
company is attractive, but it's not giving you
this 25 to 30% margin of safety that you would like to have as a
value investor. And then the last zone, which would be the bias zone, is where indeed the share, the current share price on
the market, is in fact, much lower than
what you were able to calculate in terms
of intrinsic value. This is basically
what we have with the tiers or one model. That's an, we are in the zone of undervaluation
where in fact, we are estimating that
the price is at 23:29, but the market is giving us
the company at $14 per share. So we have a huge
margin of safety. Remember, with the
level one tests, which are the ones
that are filtering out the already companies
that have bad financials. Please keep that in mind. The Gordon Growth
Model is putting us somewhere in a zone
where, well, maybe it's, I don't have enough
margin of safety today, but I will continue
to monitor In fact. Then here in this case, the linear dividend
discount model, it's not giving us the
right margin of safety. So that would be
either a no signal or even potentially
a sell signal. Because it could mean that Today the intrinsic value of the company is worth 833. And imagine that you
have bought a year ago and the market is giving
it at a share price of 14. Well, that's 40, 40% above its intrinsic
value on this methods. Please wait Also for the next lesson where
we'll be discussing discounted free cash flows to the firm and discounted
future earnings. But here, at least with
those three models, the DTM model would be a sell signal because the market is
overvaluing the company. Again, it will not
be a combination of the 31 company will
either do dividends. Maybe it's doing share
buybacks than you already immediately in
the tiers, our model, if yo
21. Case study : BASF : Concrete example of share buybacks & treasury shares extinction: All right, well
investors, welcome back. So this is kind of, I'll call it the
supplemental lecture. And because I think
it's important that also I share with you
how to practice your I, I think I mentioned this a couple of times
in the training. Being good at investing
requires practice. Like being good at
a specific sport, it requires, high
performance athletes to regularly practice. So here what I'm trying
to share with you is a concrete example how to read and understand
share buybacks and treasury share
extinction, in fact. I'm using for that, and it's actually a topic
that was discussed in one of the very
first webinars that I have been organizing. And so remember also that
I'm organizing and I'm sending educational
announcements more as every two to three months, there's going to
be a webinar where you can actually propose make suggestions
about topics that you would like me to
cover, for example. Here, I mean, on the concrete
example that I'm using for share buybacks and
treasury shares or bought back
shares extinction, I'm using BASF, the
chemical company, where I'm also a shareholder
since a couple of years. So we'll not go
into the details. I mean, you can look
this up by yourself. Who is BASF? Go to the BASF website, and you're going to see that
they're into materials, agricultural, nutrition, surface technologies,
and chemicals. It is interesting enough put
you the URL is that in 2022, they actually brought out and it's something
that I mentioned also in the course
that when you're a shareholder of a company, you should subscribe to the shareholder letter
newsletter so that you get first hand information when they are obliged
to communicate things. So here I received the
communication being a shareholder, of course, a very, very small shareholder, but
still a shareholder. Where they were mentioning
2022 that they had taken the resolution
to the decision to perform a share
buyback program, and they would be allowed by the shareholders and the
board of directors, actually. So management would
be allowed by the shareholders and the
board of directors to execute up to or to spend up to 3 billion
euros until so from January 2022 until end of 2023 on buying back
shares from the market. And what they also mentioned, and this is what you see is the second line in the
red frame on the left, is those shares would
be then also canceled. Because remember that when
companies buy back shares, those shares are carried
as negative value as treasury stock in the equity section of the balance sheet. But the risk is always, I mean, technically speaking, the company could always
bring those shares back to the market and sell them at a certain
moment in time, right? Until the treasury shares, so the shares that
have been bought back that are carried as treasury shares in
the balance sheet, in the equity section of the balance sheet
of the company, until those shares
are not cancelled, there is always a risk
of equity dilution, in fact, just to be
precise on that. So here, I mean, again, I mean, I'm mentioning this
and I've created also other trainings
like the out of reading financial statements. It requires practice. So I'm giving you here the
screenshots so you can see that BASF has been in the
annual report of 2022. They have been mentioning
that until December 31, 2022, that BSF had
acquired 24 million, 623,765 shares for purchase
price of one dot 3 billion, which was representing
rough cut 260 8% of outstanding shares. The 260 8% is actually
the yield that they have. So it's kind of a passive yield. It's not the cash
dividend yield, but it's a share buyback yield
that they have generated. I remember, go back to the lecture about return
to shareholders level one where I'm speaking about
that actually you can calculate on even in the Level
two intrinsic valuation, for the dividend
valuation models like dividend discount
model and Gn Growth Model, you could actually add the
share buyback yield to it, as well, and not just
the cash dividend yield. So, and they say, so they have spent
1,000,000,003. They put it back
somewhere else in the financial report where they explicitly
mentioned 1,000,325. So 1 billion 325
million, 486,177 80. So and remember that
they are allowed until the end of 2023 to spend
3 billion on that. So in the year 2022, they just spent like
rough cut a third of the authorization
that the shareholders were giving to
management, in fact. So one of the things that would be interesting to
know, and that's a comment. I'm not sure if I'm making
this in this course, but I already have
made those comments even during conferences is, of course, and that's
something that we have learned from Charlie
Mong and Warren Buffett. We don't want company management to buy those shares
at a premium price. We want company management
to be reasonable and buy the shares of the company
at a reasonable price. So I could ask you, can you calculate the average
purchase price for BASF, having the two numbers,
the money spent, 1,325,000,024 6 million. So maybe pause here the
video and just think, can you calculate the
average purchase price for BASF in the year 2022? So pause here and resume
when you are ready. So the calculation is
pretty straightforward. You take the amount spent, you divide it by the
amount of shares, and it tells you that
rough cut BSF has bought shares at around 50
nearly 54 euro per share, which is still at that time, a little bit
expensive, I must say. And so that was the
calculation that I did, but actually it was
mentioned explicitly in the financial report of BSF in another section.
You see this here. So they said again, they repeat how many shares they have purchased
from the market. They mentioned that this is
260 8% of the share capital. That's like your yield, your share buyback yield. And they are actually coming to the same conclusion
that my calculation, which is they brought
at an average price of 53 dot 83 per share, in fact. Um, this is already
a little bit, I would say a little
bit more complex, but you know that I want you
to practice your eye reading also cashflow statements and financial reports
and balance sheets. So we see, in fact, so there is a section
that is called key BASF share data in
the financial report. Where we see the number of outstanding shares
of the company. When you look at the
difference between 2021, 2022, that's what you have
in the Rt frame here. You actually see that in 2021, so December 31, 2021, they had 918 million, so 918.5 million
shares outstanding. And on 31st of December
2022, they have 8939. Make a difference
between the two and Oh, is that a coincidence?
Of course, it's not. But you again see here
confirmation that they have, indeed, repurchased 24
dot 6 million shares. So that's really the
intention that those shares actually are removed
from the market, and by that, the price
to book actually, and normally, even
the share price should go up because there are less shares
outstanding available dividing the same
balance sheet amount. We see here as well, you
remember that they have spent rough cut one dot 3 billion
that was mentioned earlier. And we see in an aggregated way, so there is a small
difference, but you see in the cash flow statement
in the financing section. So remember operating,
investing, and financing. So you can see in the
financing section of the cash flow statement, you see actually again,
the number of one.331, so one dot 3 billion. That's the money and
euros they spend in the year 2022 on share
buybacks, in fact. This is, again, I mean, I'm just showing you that you can find this information in various sections of a financial
report if the company is, of course, respecting the financial
statement requirements. But also, and that's
something that I'm discussing in the At of reading
financial statements course. That's not part of the
ATO value investing. But in the statement
of changes in equity, which is one of the five
financial statements. So we will here
in the Audi value investing only discuss
income statement, cash flow statement
and balance sheet. And remember that
I like to start reading the balance sheet first and the cash
flow statement, and then only I look at
the income statement. But there are two other let's
say, financial statements. One is the statement
of changes in equity, and the other one is everything that is comprehensive income. But again, that's
really more advanced. I will go will not
dig deeper into that, but you see even in the
statement of changes in equity, you have the amount of 1325, which was mentioned earlier, but you can see here 1325, bullet point number two
that is mentioned in this statement of
changes in equity. So so I could actually ask you, where does the share
extension have an impact? And what will be the
effect on the book value and the intrinsic
value of the company, in fact, and even
on the earnings per share, I could ask you. So maybe take those
questions in and pause here. And when you are
ready to resume, I mean, resume the video, but I will now explain why share buybacks
are interesting. So as I said earlier, when
share buybacks are done and when also shares
are extinguished, so they are actually
destroyed, void, it's very interesting
because, of course, all the ratios will go up. I mean, you are dividing all those ratios by a lower
number of shares outstanding. So by that, obviously, the share price should go up. You should actually
have an appreciation of the share price
on the market. Same with book value when you calculate the book value per share when let's just take a
very quick short cut here. If book value means equity value and you divide by
a smaller number, your book value will
grow automatically. So those are the nice effects and the same on the
intrinsic value, you are dividing by
a smaller number. So automatically, the
intrinsic value of one single share is
increasing. It's a way. Some people consider this it's financial mechanisms that are artificial to increase
the value of a share. I would say, yes, I tend to agree on that, but the company is
spending money to do this. Remember the cycles
four, five and six. So they are spending money to provide some kind of
return to the shareholder. So it's not artificially done, but there is real money that is invested into increasing
the share price, also or let's say the book value per share of the company. So last but not least, I mentioned this already
in the Blue Chip lecture. So again, just repeating
here that in the past, also in the course,
the At Val investing, I mean, you would have to use an Excel file and you would
have to look up yourself, the numbers in the
financial reports. Now, everything is available in this artificial
intelligence tool that is called VNC and there is a specific training on EU
Demi about how to use VNG. So VNG is a large language
model that is so it's a fine tuned large
language model that is powered by open
AIs Chan JBD plus. We have been working. I mean, we have started this
project November 2023. We are now May 2024, so that's why I'm
also doing an update of this lecture because, in fact, you can actually chat. Like with Chan GBD plus, you have the
financial information currently at launch dates, which was May 1, 2024, there are 1,100 plus companies that are part of the Investment Universe of Vinch. So you could
actually, and you see here on the right hand side, you can prompt and you can
ask Vinch Can you calculate the price to book value of BASven thousand 22 using
the following numbers? Can you also tell me what
would be the price to book if, for example, the number
of outstanding shares would have been
reduced by 280 6%. Can you recalculate the price to book ratio with this price? So I mean, I will not go
into the details here, but you have now a very handy tool that
is available to you that allows you actually
to be much more efficient in the
investment process versus what I had before, which was actually
providing an Excel file, but you had to fill those
numbers by yourself, and you had to look those
numbers up by yourself in the financial
statements of the company that you would
be interested in. Now you have this
tool which includes 1,100 companies,
includes top brands. So I think currently we are at nearly 1 million data points
for all those companies. And yeah, I mean, I mean, we did this project
with my partners already ourselves
as value investors, and I'm using this,
and I'm gaining a lot of time by being able. So I got rid of my Excel file, and I'm using now this
tool to calculate intrinsic value to perform the
level one test, et cetera. But I will show this to
you in the bonus lecture. At the end, I will show you
a full valuation using Vinch as a artificial intelligence large language model
for value investors. And of course, you can see
here another screenshot that it can calculate the
intrinsic value per share. And of course, if you change the amount of
outstanding shares, it will, of course, adapt. You see here the result of
me prompting the model. It shows you the original
number of shares, 918 million, and I've
told Vin Well, now, if I would reduce the number of outstanding
shares by 280 6%, can you recalculate
the intrinsic value? On the discounted cash
flow per share method. And you see that actually the intrinsic value
is increasing. Again, this is what I
was asking you before. What is the effect of doing share buybacks and
share extinction? Is that all those
intrinsic values per share are increasing
because you are dividing by a smaller number
of shares outstanding. That's it for the
BASF, I would say, specific example, and I
hope it was useful for you. And yeah, looking forward to talk to you in the
next lecture. Thank you.
22. Discounted free cash flow & earnings valuation model: Alright, in Leicester us. Welcome back. Last lesson already in
chapter number four, where we're discussing the
various valuation techniques. So we saw in the
previous lessons how to calculate the book value. The book value. In the previous one, I was sharing with you three
models that can be used for calculating the intrinsic value of a share of a
company in general, which are the dividend
discount model, the Gordon Growth Model, then the total shareholder
return which adds in fact share buybacks which
have become more, Let's save. Recurring over the
last two decades. The last part of the last
method in this level two methods and is in fact, we'll be discussing
discounted cashflow, which is basically
the method that everybody is using
even for startups. Just looking at
the business plan and drawing assumptions
on the valuation of the company by looking at promises that are laid
down in the business plan. And I will be discussing also discounted future
earnings as well. But first things first, why has been
discounted cashflow? A method that has been
used a lot for valuation. First thing that I'm
not writing here is because not all
companies are paying out dividends and not all
companies are paying out or doing share buybacks. So very often the dividends
related valuation methods actually do not work. I mean, this e.g. does
not work for a startup that doesn't have
money to provide a cash dividends to
its shareholders, nor even do share buybacks. They're only if you
remember the flows 45.6, they only if they have,
they're generating profits. Very often is not the case. They are generating losses in their flow number three out
of the operating assets. But if they are the first
profits will always be in the first year is
reinvested into the, into the operating assets. In fact, to expand the assets in the balance
sheet that they have. So outside of that, so as you understand, is that dividends
variation methods do not apply to all companies just for very mature companies, discounted cashflow methods are discounted cash flow
valuation really captures the underlying fundamental
drivers that are in fact driving the profitability
of a company. If it is growth, the
cost of capital, how much the company
is re-investing. So this famous flow number four, and very often
discounted cashflow is considered as the closest
estimation to valuing or two, to capturing the intrinsic
value of a company. And unlike other
valuation methods, and I've put here the example of discounted future earnings. Why a lot of people who prefer discounted
cash flow methods to discounted future earnings are discounted future income methods is because in fact, if you remember
when I was sharing with you the difference between income or I'd say accrual
accounting and cash accounting. You cannot make up the
numbers with cash accounting. So caches cache, while
in income you can start thinking about
being creative on how you recognize
revenues, e.g. you can also be creative on how you report on expenses, e.g. research and
development expenses. You could in fact
say, and this is a typical red flag
that I am discussing. And another training
which is much more in-depth on reading
financial statements. Where in fact, when a company is incurring expenses related
to research and development, they are allowed in fact, to capitalize those
investments and show them as an intangible asset in their balance sheet and not categorizing them as
an operating expense. That's kind of a way of I
will not say in a fake way, but it's a way of making things
look better as they are, but it's allowed by
counting measure. So I will not say that
all capitalization of expenses are in fact manipulating
the income statement, but nonetheless, I wouldn't
need to be attentive on that. So the advantage of
discounted cashflow, of free cash flow to
the firm as we call it. Is that a true measure of how much cash is left
to the investors? Why is it discounted? Because we remember we
are trying to estimate the intrinsic value of a company over a certain
investment horizon. You remember from what we were discussing and you
have seen this slide. That's inflation is out
there and inflation has an impact on the value
of money over time. You remember I was giving you the example which wasn't
Investopedia example, where a generic cup
of coffee and 1970s, you would have to spend
$0.25 for having this, for buying this
generic cup of coffee. If thousand 19 fact, you would have to spend $1.59
for the same cup of coffee. The difference between the two, if you remember what we were
discussing is inflation. In fact, one of the things
when we discount so to bring back to the value of
money to its present value, we are using a discount
rate or discount factor. And again, now, I didn't not do it in
the previous lectures, but here as we are doing more, let's say mathematical
calculations. I want to share how
this is calculated. So when you look at the
typical DCF calculation files, also the ones that I was using, discount factors I was using
in the previous lecture. So in fact, the
discount factor is 1/1 plus the cost of
capital that you have. And then exponential to
the year or the year. That is a wave from where you're bringing it now to
its present value. Let me give you a
concrete example. So e.g. here on the
specific coffee, generic coffee, cup
of coffee example. If you think in terms of
discount factor 1972000-19. So the power, the purchasing
power in 1970 with $0.25, $1.49 years later is actually reflecting a three dots 84
per cent yearly inflation. That's also pretty interesting, Let's say figure to know the discount factor between the two is in fact zero dot 15. Or if you calculate
in terms of multiple, it's one divided by this
discount factor, it's 636 times. So it means that from
the year 1970, 2019, that's the two by the same to keep the same
purchasing power. In fact, your amount of
money would have to be multiplied by six times
over the last 49 years, which is a lot in fact. So you see here how the discount factor is
in fact calculated to bring the 2009 value down
to the 1970s values. So this is a way also you can actually calculate
it both sides. I can calculate the
discount factor. And this discount factor
will be then multiplied by the monetary value like
25-year-olds dollars, or the other way
around, it would be one dot 59 multiplied by 015 and you end up
precisely 020 $5. So this is how you can move between years in time horizon by using those discount
factors back-and-forth. In fact, from 025, you would multiply by
636 to end up at 01:59. And from 2019, you
would multiply one dot 59 by zero dot 15, in fact, to end up at 00:20, $5 in fact for this
cup of coffee. Alright. So remember again, I will not go into the details about it. But when I was explaining to you the differences between income or let's say accrual accounting. And when we will also introducing
the cashflow statement with more specifically the
cash accounting methods that there are differences
between the two. We need in fact, to be able to do discounted
cash flow methods we need to use and we need to know what is the free cash flow
to the firm in fact, and for that, you
remember this scheme, this is the cashflow statement. Remember the cashflow
statement has three sections. Operating activities, investing activities,
financing activity. I like it very easy. Today, most of the companies, when they report on the
cashflow statement, they start with the profit
before income taxes, which is basically the earnings before interest and taxes. Then they RE correlate or the reconcile the non-cash
items with that income. They do report on the changes in working capital from
one year to the other. So this is basically you
end up with a cash provided by operating activities are
the operating cashflow. And then of course they
report how much this is a flow number for how
much has been in fact, flowing back into the business in the sense of how
much has been invested, but also even long
lived assets have been sold out, so divested. That will also reflect in the cash flow from
investing activities. So basically, it's very easy
if you know the company is providing a cashflow from operating and net cash
flow from investing. You don't need to have
the financing one. You will end up in fact, with the free cash
flow to the firm. So it's the sum of
the two figures. Okay, so that's really
important to understand. Now a question to you is, can now operating cash
will be negative? Can an investing
cashflow be positive? Because typically, I mean,
for mature companies, operating cashflow will be positive and the
investing cash flow will be negative. Why? Because we are
expecting to generate profits from our assets. So the operating cash
flow will be positive. And typically we're
going to spend some money in the phone number for to reinvest into assets
into the operating cycle. So that's why typically
the investing cashflow would be negative. But can't operating cashflow
be negative? Yes, it can. If the company is not, it's not generating profits from
his operating cycle. Can invest in cash
will be positive. The answer is yes as well. When the company is selling more fixed assets versus
reinvesting into the business, then potentially the investing
cash flow can be positive. It's a warning signal. It would be for me a red
flag, but it's possible. So that's why I'm saying, and when you will be
calculating this as well as just make the sum
of the two figures, whatever the sign positive or negative is in front
of those two figures. The two figures out the
operating cash flow and investing cashflow. Alright? I've put here, I
mean, you already have seen this probably sounds familiar with the
dividend discount model. Basically the discounted
future earnings and discounted
cashflow is the same. I do both because I'd like to see as I consider,
I mean, you know, that earnings or income has to reconsider with
cashflow over time. You remember this limousine
that has been bought has been spent to disband out
in year 11 -100,000. But his expands as rate
of -20000/5 years, which is the useful
lifetime of this asset. I do calculate and you're going to see in the extra
companionship that we have the discounted
future earnings and discounted cash-flow. And you're going to
use this to estimate the intrinsic value
of the company. So one of the things that
I like to do as well, having also learned from Warren
Buffett and listening to his annual shallow meetings of Berkshire Hathaway
with Charlie Munger. While I'm doing an
intermediate calculation as well of what is the company worth if it would
die after ten years, after 20 years and
after 30 years. And the second thing is that something that's
my personal choice is nothing to do with Charlie
Munger, Warren Buffett. I do not use a terminal value because I
believe, generally speaking, when you look at what
I was mentioning, the average life of SAP 500
companies that is around, let's say 15-20 years. I believe that first of all, it's interesting to know what the company is worth
after ten years, 20 years, and third years. And adding a terminal
value, in my opinion, is not in line with the fact that maybe the
company will not be around in 50 years,
in 100 years. So I'm taking a more
defensive stance because if you add
this terminal value, it will just make your
business case better. So your intrinsic value, in fact, we just increase. So I'm taking more defensive stance on this and this is what you will see in the
extra companion sheet. So here, we can do here
quick calculation. So if you have a
company that has 1 billion of outstanding shares, the latest annual earnings
were rough cut 4,000,000,499. Current share price 43
$94 cost of capital. We assume at seven per cent. Also in the model
you're going to see in the actual
companion sheet, you need to decide. So that's why you need to judge. You need to decide on
your growth assumptions. And so I've, in the companion
sheet you can actually, you don't need to decide for
the same growth rate for the next 30 years
because the model is calculating and he's
stopping after 30 years, so no terminal value. And you can actually define a different growth
rate assumption for the year is one to ten, different ones for
the years 11 to 20. And the last one, the third one for
the years 21 to 30, it could be the
same if you'd like, then you have to put in, I don't know, e.g.
three times 3%. But in this example, in fact, I've put a 3% growth
rate assumption for the first ten years
than two per cent for the next decade, 1% for the third decade. So this is an calculating
those growth, growth rates and
intrinsic value. And automatically
you're going to see in fact when doing
the calculation. So the intrinsic
value calculation, ten years of 20 years
And of 30 years, that with a share
price of $43.94. In fact, and this is
automatically calculated. The sum of the
discounted cash flows or earnings is in fact, it depends which figure
you are looking into. So here we can I mean, I was speaking about
latest yearly earnings, but you're going to see
in the companion to that, you have a section
that is calculated the discounted
future earnings and a section that is calculating
the discounted cash-flow. And what I recommend is
that you compare both if there is a big
discrepancy between the two, you need to understand
why there is such a big discrepancy between the cashflows and the earnings. It may be explainable, but be attentive, normally, should not be too far away, except that the company
has been spending this specific year a lot
of money on investments. So you see, in fact, that's similar to the
dividend discount model. That's the model that the sum of the discounted cashflows
with a cost of capital expectation
of seven per cent with this 3% growth rate
for the first decade, two per cent for
the second decade and 1% for the third decades. And with an earnings
of four dot, let's say rough cut folded $5,000,000,000 per year
with a certain amount of outstanding shares
because we need to bring the value back to an amount. Share valuation per share as we did for the dividend
discount models. So you see in fact
that after ten years, if the company would just go bankrupt and would nonetheless generate profits until then, the one share is worth $33 that you can
compare with the 43, 94 that the market
is giving us today. On the 20-years calculation, we see that the company is
worth 50, 95 years dollars. You compare it with the
43, 94 years dollars. We're having a ton two
per cent margin of safety the third years. So it's the sum during 30 years of all the earnings
taking the assumption of the latest current
earnings with specific growth
rate assumption and cost of capital assumptions. The intrinsic value
calculation on the earnings of the discounted future earnings related IV intrinsic
value is 67, 71, which is compared to the
current share price of 43, 94 is giving us a margin
of safety of 35 per cent. So practice with this, going to the exit
companion sheet and start playing with this. But you will need is the latest net income and you will need the free
cashflow to the firm. So the free cash flow to
the firm is the sum of the operating cash flow
and investing cashflow. So with those two numbers, you're going to actually receive an extra
companion sheets. Of course you can
do it manually. You will see in fact how the intrinsic value and the one that we're
interested in is the IV 30 based on discounted
future earnings and the ID3 based on discounted
free cash flow to the firm. So discounted cashflow, how much margin of
safety do we have there? I will say the
same and this will be my closing remarks
for this lesson, I will say the same what I said earlier in the previous lesson. Of course, the company has to pass first all the
level one tests. And you can not only look at the intrinsic value of a company if it is
through dividends, valuation models of earnings
or cash flow models. And you put aside the level one test that
you're taking risk there. The level of mountains
are there to filter out already bad from
good companies. And then you have to
do these calculations. Before wrapping up this lecture, I want to bring the
whole story together. So we have seen in this chapter a couple
of variation methods. The first one, the
two first ones, which were the book value per share and the adjusted
book value per share. You're going to use them
as a ratio interpretation. So you're going to actually take the current share price and divide by the book
value per share. And, or if there
is an adjustment possible as you have seen, e.g. on brand valuation or
property plant and equipment, you may then calculate an
adjusted book value per share. In fact, the comparator, it
will calculate it for you. And the companionship
will then also provide you an adjusted
price to book ratio. So on that ratio, you'll remember that I said
that we want to have the racial somewhere below three. So buying three
times the size of the balance sheet
starts to get cheap. In fact, it's a relative
valuation methods. But the other methods
that I introduced, the dividend discount
model and methods. So the no growth dividends, DTM, the width growth dividends, the Gordon Growth Model. And we also defined a total
shallow return which adds to the dividends as
well as share buybacks with or without growth
as the TRS R1 model. And in the last while in
this lecture actually, we have also provided on, I have provided two
absolute valuation methods which are the discounted
free cash flow to the firm, which is the preferred method, and the discounted
future earnings, which is based on the
income because it's random, It's good to be able to
compare the two if there are no two big discrepancies
between the two and the companion sheet
will calculate this for you. In fact, you will have to bring in the net income
and you will have to bring in the free cash flow to
the firm that you have seen is calculated by summing up the operating cash flow and
investing cashflow, right? So I'm going to share this, how the whole story comes
together on a really small, so small is accompany
that I had in my portfolio border
around 50 something. I think I bought
at CHf57 and solid like 93 or CHf95 like 12, 18 months afterwards, plus dividends that are
received At that time. You see here on the screenshots, I was looking at May 2020, whether current share
price was around CHf55. And so again, I'm in
this summary table, I'm not bringing in
the price to book, an adjusted price to
book because that's a relative valuation methods. You just have to test if the price to book and
if you can adjust it, the adjusted price to book
is somewhere below three, the further away from
three, down to 1.5. That's at least for
that single test, is it's an, let's say vibration signal that
the company is cheap. And as I told you, it
happens from time to time. That the markets are so
depressed that they're giving you the company at the relative valuation of price to book
that is below one. I had a situation e.g. for BASF, the largest chemical company in the
world, e.g. right. Outside of that, if we bring now the other methods together. So dividend discount model, the growth, so the
Gordon Growth Model and the total
shareholder return. And we add to that
the outcome of the intrinsic value
calculation for discounted free cash flow to the firm undiscounted
future earnings. In fact, you are ending up with potentially five
different figures, which is the figure
that you have to use to compare it to the
current market share price. And here I'm giving
you the example. And the assumptions are not important but the
example of Reshma. So when I was analyzing
very small before taking the decision to buy the
company and remember, and I will repeat this again. Enrichment have to pass
all the level one tests. Right? And if one of the tests
would not be passed, I would exclude from potentially investing into Reshma prolapse. I use the leverage to
tasks which are the, which are the relative
valuation tasks, price to book, adjusted price to book and
the absolute valuation tests, dividend discount model,
gone growth model, total shareholder return, discounted future earnings and
discount is free cashflow. Those last five are giving me an intrinsic value per share. And you see her on those
five values that in fact, depending on the methods, I'm ending up at an intrinsic
value per share of between CHf68 and CHf76 at that time
for what we smell was worth. So receiving rushmore at a share price of
around 55 CHf56? When I was doing the analysis, I think at the end I
bought it at around 57. It was giving me a
margin of safety that was for all of those intrinsic value
calculations above 25%. So you need to judge what is the right value is
at 68, is at 76. Something that I learned
from Warren Buffett, listening to one of his
annual shareholder meetings, he said, calculating
the intrinsic value of a company is not
something precise. It's giving you a range. What is a reasonable,
fair assumption? This is what you see with
the various methods. The various methods will not give you the exact same number. Why? Because there are potentially assumptions that
vary in those calculations. Example, the dividend
discount model, you are considering
that there's gonna be no dividend growth
in the future. In the Gordon Growth Model, you assuming there's gonna be some kind of growth
potentially in the future, in the future earnings, the figure is maybe
overstated versus the free cash flow to
the firm or vice versa. So you see that flourish more, you end up in a valuation
range, CHf68-76. For all of them, you see that? Well, buying it at 55 or CHf56 for all of the tests is giving me the right level of
margin of safety. That should be the
minimum of 25 per cent. Remember, while your
money sit still, you want to receive
passive income through cash dividends and
share buybacks. So this is very important that
you are able to understand after it's in the
companion sheet what the intrinsic value, so the absolute intrinsic
value calculation is giving you as a result, if it is for the
dividend cash flows. So DTM g, GM and Ts R1. But also then for
discounted free cash flow to the firm, discounted
future earnings. If you have big discrepancies
between the two, normally you should
first of all, favor the discounted
future earnings. No, sorry, the first one is to favor discounted free
cash flow to the firm. The second one is counted
future earnings and in the hope that they are not big discrepancies between the two. If there are big discrepancies
between the two, it may just be because
the company has been largely investing and spending cash in the last year, e.g. but remember that
cash and income, so accrual accounting and cash accounting
we will correlate at the very end over a
longer period of time. You may need to adjust
the investments to make a judgment that at
the very end of the day, the discounted
future earnings is more reflecting the
real intrinsic value, the discounted free cash flow to the firm because the company has short-term span at a lot
of money on new assets, but those assets would generate new earnings in the future. If the company is
paying out dividends, then you can also look at what is the dividend discount models, the three telling me
in terms of sorts, the intrinsic value
of the company. Then you have to make a call. You have to make a
call saying, well, yeah, it's true that I mean, it's giving me for most of those tasks is giving you
the right margin of safety. That's my value investing
is an odd because a judgment call will
be required by you. Alright, so I hope
that this is clear. So you have multiple methods, relative methods, price to book, adjusted price to book. And you have absolute
valuation methods, three for the dividends, cashflows, and true for the earnings and free
cash flow to the firm. I hope that you're
able to understand how you will have to judge which methods
is the right to, the right one to use for than taking an investment decision. And please do not forget, that is not enough. You have to bring this together with a level of one tests. Not just looking at
intrinsic value, but also adds how good the company is at
generating earnings, how good the company is, e.g. at providing passive income
and those kind of things, That's something that you
will use for that level. One task on top of this level to relative and
absolute valuation methods. Wrapping up here
this chapter and in the last one that's more
like an ongoing research, are going to share with
you how I tried to quantify the mode and
intangible metrics that are learned from
Warren Buffett without having to talk to
management of the company, employees, of the company, supplies of the company. So we'll be sharing with you, at least for the big brands, how to potentially get some
interesting signals to, let's say, strengthen or not an investment decision
that you would take. So talk to you in the
next one. Thank you.
23. Case study : Performing Level 1 & Level 2 analysis on Apple, Chevron, Sirius XM: Vengpt.com. Welcome
back, Investors. Welcome to a new video. This video will be actually, so we are August 2024, 15th to be precise. And I mean, for the
investors in the room, you know that every 45 days
after quarterly closing, Warren Buffalo has to publish
a 13 F report as they have more than 100 million
assets under management. So I'm going to give
you an update on latest movements on
Berkshire HeawaysPortfolio. Actually, the video
has three parts. So the first part will just
be about the movements in out and new positions that they have taken in their portfolio. The second one will
be actually on those companies or
some examples of the companies that
you're going to be seeing where they have
sold the securities, where they have
bought securities, is how to use in GPT and to
the analysis using Vin GPT. And then the third
part for those who like to read
financial reports, they're going to be
showing you how to read the latest financial report
from Berkshire Headway, so the latest quarterly report. So let's go into it
and do not forget to subscribe to our YouTube
channel, as well. Alright, so let's start with the positions that
have been sold by Berkshire Hathaway since
in the second quarter 2024. So we're looking at the period April 1 to end of June 2024. So I've put you here a, I hope, comprehensive table
that summarizes the main negative movements, so what they have been selling
in terms of positions. In the portfolio. So what you see actually, and that's the highlights
of this quarter, you see that Berkshire
Hathaway has been taking capital gains by
selling rough cut 50%, actually 49 or 33% of their Apple position
in the portfolio. So they have sold for rough cut $84 billion of market value. So that's actually
the biggest change. You see below the Apple line, so I've sorted this table
by percentage change, so from the biggest to
actually the smallest one. You see that they sold some
positions on Capital One, floor and Deco holdings, T mobile US, Louisiana
Pacific Corp, which is a railway company, if I'm not mistaken,
and Chevron, which was also one of the
positions that they have taken in the utilities or
energy and utilities sector, I think already a
couple of quarters ago, so that they sold three to 55%. But the main highlight
here is that they sold 50% of the Apple position. In terms of movements, so what has been added. So I'll start first with what has been
increased because they had already those companies in the previous quarter, at least. So you see that I mean, here it's sorted in
ascending order. So you see that occidental
petroleum, which was again, another one in the oil and
gas industry like Chevron. So there they have increased
a little bit like 290 3%. I will not read
through all the lines, but the main highlight of what they have
increased in terms of position in existing securities or in existing companies is actually serious XM holding
which is this satellite well, satellite radio
provider in the US, which is very well known
in the US, in Europe. Most people do not
know serious exam. So they have increased
the position by 262%. So in terms of percentage,
it's the biggest change. But you see that the
value in US dollars is, let's say, relatively small compared to other
let's say movement. So we are speaking
about $376 million, which is for Berkshire, that's small money, actually. So that's the
biggest change here. Then in terms of new
companies that have appeared in the portfolio that were not existing in ir quarter, 2024, you have two
new companies, one that is called Alta
Beauty Incorporated. So they are kind of a
marketplace for everything that is beauty products,
those type of things. You see on the left hand side, a screenshot of their
latest website. For example, they are selling SoliGenera which is
a brand that I know from my daughter because she loves the
brand, SoldiGenera. I had never heard
about this brand, but young people
like this brand, so they're apparently selling
that type of stuff as well. And then Berkshire Hadway
has also added position. So they bought one or 2% of the outstanding shares of
the Class A shares of HCO, which is kind of an
engineering company that is also doing stuff in flight
operations, flight support. So you see that the percentages that they have taken are small. So it's for ULTA Beauty, they have taken one 4% of
the outstanding shares. And for HCO, so HCO has two types of shares
or classes of shares. So they have taken one or 2% of the outstanding class A shares. You see the amount in terms
of the value of US dollar. They are relatively small compared to the
size of Berkshire. It's $185 million for Haku
and 266 million for ULTA. So that's for the movement
in the portfolio. Now, I mean, what is interesting is not just to
know about the movement. Okay, we have seen Apple has been sold for
50% of the position, and we have seen serious
exam increasing by 262% and two new additions. But what is
interesting as I mean, if we are serious investors, is to understand what are the fundamentals
of those companies. So what I'm showing you here, is actually how to use Vine GPT and how to prompt VN GPT to do analysis on a couple
of those companies that we have been
just enumeraating. So the first thing
is we're going to be looking at out movements, so movements of selling securities in the portfolio
of Berkshire Hathaway. So here you see the
prompt that are going to copy paste into Ving GPT, where I'm actually
asking Vin GPT to do some people call
it a chain of thought. So it's a sequence of prompts, but structured under
one single prompt, you see that it's like seven
or eight lines of prompt. I'm asking Vin GPT to do a fundamental
analysis of Apple and Chevron Corp. Those were two companies in the portfolio
of Berkshire the way, where the percentage
has been reduced. And I want actually
VNGPT to show me side by side the fundamental analysis of those two companies in
a comprehensive table. And I also want
VNGPT to calculate the intrinsic values for those companies using
various methods. You're going to see this in
the results in the video. And also, I want VNGPT to
calculate the margin of safety. I mean, for those who did the Audit value
investing training, you know that we should
buy companies at 25 to 30% of margin of safety versus the
current share price, so that the intrinsic value is 25% to 30% above the
current share price. And also I want Vin GPT to
calculate the percentage immediately comparing
the intrinsic values versus the current
market share price. So let's go into it, and
let's roll the video here. So you see, so well, first, I'm starting with inch, so just saying good morning to Vinch. And then what I'm going to do, you're going to see me actually
copy pasting the prompt. So by copy pasting the prompt, you're going to see
now me submitting the prompt and so this
chain of thought. And you see that,
of course, Vn GPT is talking to our back end. So here is the Vn GBT four.com
Band, because, I mean, in order to avoid
hallucinations, you know that Vin GPT has been created on
top of HGPD plus. We do have many, let's say, processes and calculation
stuff that is being done in our
back end just to avoid glitches in the analysis. So here you see, let me
just pause here 1 second, the video before continuing it. So you see here, actually the results of the
fundamental analysis. So for those who did the Adder
value investing trading, you see like price
earnings ratio, price of cash flow,
dividend yield, dividend payout ratio, ROIC, return on assets as well, debt to equity ratio,
that type of stuff. And then, in fact,
afterwards, you remember, in the prompt or in
the chain of thought, we ask, actually Vin GPT to calculate the
intrinsic value. Let me also again
stop here the video. And you see how Vin GPT looks at the current share price and then calculates the three
methods that it has been, let's say, fine tuned. So it calculates
dividend discount so discounted cash flow, free cash flow to the firm, and discounted future earnings. And you see actually
that it then calculates because I
ask in the prompt, it calculates actually the
margin of safety between the current share price and
those three intrinsic values. So you see that
actually for Chevron, is a positive margin of safety. It means that the current
share price is 20 dot 87% and 24 dot 71% below. So the intrinsic value is
below the current share price. So it means that basically
there would be and again, I'm not now soliciting
you to buy Chevron Corp, but it looks like
that Chevron Cp is currently undervalued, according to our value
investing methods. And again, I will speak
later on about what are the assumptions
that are being used to calculate
those intrinsic value. So that's for the
first two companies. Let's go into serious XM. So serious exam, in fact,
let me just go back here. So here we are just submitting a single prompt to serious
exam, which is now, can you now perform
a fundamental ys of serious exam and please also
calculate intrinsic value, discounted casuals counted future earnings
for the company, and calculate the margin
of safety for both IV. So you see that's a
different type of prompt. You see here in the sequence
of the Appohevax analysis, I'm just copy pasting
the prompt that I just shown to you on the
screen, and, of course, Vin GBT is pulling the
data from its back end, doing the analysis, doing the intrinsic value calculations
to avoid hallucinations. Of the large language model, and it comes back with
the calculations. So fundamental analysis,
again, I mean, for those who did the A
value investing training, level one, fundamental analysis. And then it calculates
the intrinsic values, looks at the current
share price, and then provides
the intrinsic value. I just asked DCF and
discounted future earnings, and it calculates the
margin of safety. Just one thing here because the margin of safety looks
very interesting 42, 46%, which could explain why Berkshire has been buying
more of those companies. Just one thing is
nonetheless that I do not like about serious M, is that the company
has negative equity. You see it here in the summary of the fundamental analysis. It's something that
I've been asked up also related to Starbucks. I mean, I love the
Starbucks brand, but it has negative equities. There would be for
me a KO criteria and I would not invest
into the company. Just wanted to
highlight this to you. Again, I'm not
telling you to buy serious M. I'm just showing you productive you can be in your investment process
by leveraging Ving GPT. Okay, the third analysis, and we already discussed
about Alta Beauty, which is one of the
two new holdings that appeared in the
outer 13 F repot. So here I'm showing you
actually a sequence of various prompts with VnchGPT. So let's go into the video. So you see here, I started
a new conversation, and I'm asking,
well, first of all, I'm asking because
I never heard about Alta Beauty before
seeing it in 13 F repot. I'm asking Vin if
it has la Beauty in its companies or in its
investment universe, you decide how to
prompt the model. It says, yes, it has it
under the Tika Yelta then I'm asking actually perform a fundamental
analysis of the company. You see that I don't
need to repeat la beauty because VNGPT remembers the
contacts and the prompts, and I'm asking also to calculate intrinsic values
for the company. Again, as always, it goes to the back ends, performs
the calculations, pulls the right data from the latest investment
Universe update, and then it provides a analysis
related to the company. And we see that the company
does not pay out dividends, and you see that it provides
a certain value for the discounted cash flow
intrinsic value and discounted future
earnings intrinsic value. And one of the
things that again, I want to emphasize here is, of course, I did not provide any further assumptions when calculating the
intrinsic values. So I'm asking now the
model here as you can see in my prompting is, which assumptions have you
used to calculate the IV? And Vin GPT is answering because it has been
preprogrammed with that. Answering that it
used 3% growth rate, 7% discount rate and a
time horizon of 30 years. And I'm asking no basically
Vin GPT to recalculate. I'm changing the
growth assumption, and I'm asking Wing to recalculate
with a 4% growth rate. And you see that, of course, it will adapt the
intrinsic values if it is a DCF or DFE with
a new growth rate. And also, I mean, and I've been discussing
this a lot with my students is what is an appropriate cost of
capital for any company. Per default, the model uses 7%, which we believe is
a good average cost of capital for any type
of company long term, valuing on 30 years. But here, I mean, I mean, if you have followed me, you know that I've been adding together with the Vin GBT team, we have been adding industry
specific cost of capital, and you can ask the model, What's the industry
cost of capital? And here it has replied
that it was nine dot 82. And I'm asking now in GPT to recalculate the
intrinsic values using this nine dot 82 percentage
in terms of cost of capital. So I'm just here again, you see just reconfirming what growth rate it has been
using because I did not, let's say, tell again to in GPT, which growth rate to use. So you see that
it capped the 4%. So just another example
on how to use VNG GPT, in fact, to do the prompting. Right. The third part of
this video is having a look, and you know that
me as an investor, I always read financial reports, and it's very important
that you train your eye and that you practice on reading financial reports. I'm just showing you
here the main highlights of the latest financial reports. So the ten Q report, which is an unaudited quarterly report of Berkshire Hathaway. So the holding Company
of Warren Buffett. So here I'll start. I mean, you know that
I always start with the balance sheet
and then the cash flow same and then income sim, but I know that a
lot of people they like to start with
the income same. So let's start with
that, but I will come back to the cash flow and
the balance sheet later on. So on the income
same and you see that with the red bullet
points one and two, that's so if you compare
quarter over quarter, the second quarter of 2024 with the second quarter of 2023, you see that the company made rough cuts the same
amount of profits, so it's 33 billion. This year, while
last year was 359. What is more interesting
when you look at the first six months of
last year versus this year, you see that the company has, in fact, generated 43
billion of profits, and so the first six
months of last year, they had generated 71 billion. So the performance was a
little bit better last year. For whatever reason, that's
now at the point here. It's interesting
as well, when you look at the cash flow statement, you see actually at the
cash position so that Warren Buffett's
Berkshire company has a cash position
of 43 billion. So that's really cash
and cash equivalents. And what we want
to understand as well is how has the
balance sheet evolved? And again, I have started reading the Berkshire
Heaway ten cry pot. I started with the balance sheet because the balance sheet, as I always tell my students, it shows in a consolidated
way at any moment in time, it shows what has
happened to the company. So here, you see, and let's zoom in here on the equity side of the liability side of
the balance sheet. So what is being compared here is the
balance sheet position at the end of December
of 2023 versus the balance sheet
position of carter 2024. Again, unaudited figures.
When we zoom in, actually, there are three
things that we can call out. The first one is a
retained earnings. So we see that and
you know that I hope that you know that when
profits in companies happen, they normally appear on the liability side of the balance sheet as
retained earnings. So there we see that
the retained earnings have increased by $43 billion. We see that Berkshire Hathaway, compared to last December, has spent $3 billion
on share buybacks. So that's the treasury stock
that is carried at cost. And again, remember,
that's a negative value in the liability side
of the balance sheet. Net net, when you look at
the bullet pot number three, the balance sheet has
increased by $39 billion. When we look on the asset side, because you remember balance
sheet has to be balanced. So what are the main
movements that actually reflect the plus 39 billion that we have on the right hand
side of the balance sheet? So basically, we see
and remember that Berkshire Hathaway
has been selling for $84 billion of Apple
shares amongst others. So, of course, we see that the investment in
equity securities, so that's bullet
point number two went down compared to December 2023. So we see that rough cut, they carry $69 billion, less in equity securities. They carry 7 billion less in
fixed maturity securities. Did they do with
the cash that they collected from selling
Apple amongst others? And it was not just about Apple. Well, they have invested
into US treasury bills. So you see that compared to six months ago,
the balance sheet, so the asset side of the
short term investments in US T bills has grown from
$129 billion to $234 billion. So, I mean, this is really
high amounts of money. So you see that
net net, actually, when you just make the
sum of those positions, you see, actually
that rough cut. Remember that the balance
sheet has grown by 39 billion. You see that rough cut
from those 39 billion, 30 billion already
explained just by those three position
and movement as well. So that's basically what
I wanted to show you. And in terms of conclusion, what can we say that
Berkshire had the way, again, as very often has
provided solid results. And they have taken in some
serious capital gains, selling rough cut 50% of the
Apple stake that they had. So that was the 84
billion share sale that took place last quarter. So that thanks for
your attention. Talk to you in the next video, do not forget to subscribe
to YouTube channel. Thank you very much, See you.
24. Moat & intangible metrics: Alright, well Investors,
welcome back. We are finishing nearly
this whole training. We're gonna go into
a shorter chapter, which is Chapter number five, which is a little bit
of ongoing research. And I'm gonna give you, if
you remember an introduction, I set some elements
how to measure, in fact, the perception of
stakeholders of the company. And how this can in fact adds
to a mode in the sense of, you remember that in the
level one test we discussed about the mode being the
return on invested capital being like consistently around ten per cent or above eight per cent for a couple
of years in the row. But there is a little bit more. And actually I came
across a book from Philip Fischer that
was called Commons or that is called common stocks
and uncovering profits. You have here the first
page of the book. And in fact, but Philip
Fischer, we're saying, is that when reading printed
financial statements, but a company is never enough
to justify and investments. One of the major steps in prudent investment
quoting here must be to find out about a company's
affairs from those who have some direct
familiarity with them. So basically what he's saying is that it's not enough to
look at the financials. It's not enough. I mean, you coming
back to what I have been showing to you so far, having a level one, level
two perspective on things. But we can augment the
level 1.11 two tests perspective by adding
some attributes that not a lot of investors
actually look into. And that's basically what I
want to share here with you. So when he's
speaking about that, you need to talk
to people that are linked to the company that have some direct familiarity with it. I mean, let's be very fair. This is not easy and specifically it's not
easy for small investors. I mean, if you're, if your
name is Warren Buffett, it's easy to call up the CEO of JP Morgan and have
a chat with a guy. It's probably you have the scale to ask
marketing agency to do some analysis and very
thorough analysis about customer sentiment, e.g. of JPMorgan, all about Unilever. That's something that's frozen. Small investors. It's actually pretty
difficult to do. In fact, here I'm trying to
share with you in this level three tasks, some elements, how you can scale this in a way just sitting
using internet and just sitting behind your
desk without having to do an even you would not have the opportunity to talk to the management of those
big companies that potentially either me or you
want to become an investor. The scatter but
method or technique, as it is called, is a method that actually
looks at various perspectives. It looks at customers, suppliers,
competition, employees. And when you look at
it, it's pretty close. In fact, the five forces
model of microbiota, if you look at, let's say
a strategic definition, strategic assessment methods to see how the company is
positioned on a specific market, on a specific customer
segment, e.g. what I will be sharing
here with you is specifically the
customer and employee, which is pretty easy to gather on supplier and
need to be very fair. I was absolutely unable to
find for the time being, any kind of platform or
website that actually provides a feedback from the suppliers about the company that you're thinking about to invest into. And I'm gonna give a quick
perspective on competition because of course that's pretty
important as well, right? So when we go into
customer sentiments, and I'll try it for each of those two angles of
this customer sentiment and employee sentiment. I've tried to share a little
bit of research backgrounds, what the academic world or the consulting
companies are saying. In fact, for each of
those two categories. So when you look at
customer sentiment and I've put the various URLs, you have, of course, the big consulting
company, Mckinsey. And also there were
some articles in the Harvard Business Review that will actually saying that improving the customer
experience is increasing the overall shoulder written
by seven to ten per cent. And HBR was also mentioning. So they did an analysis a
couple of years ago for airlines I think was for car
rental and also for the, remember the third
category what it was. And they also saw a strong
correlation between, I will introduce the
term net promoter score, the NPS figures and accompanies
average growth rate. So I mean, it feels, of course, common sense then if you
have customers that are happy with your
products, your services, with the after sales
service or your company, that's probably
they will come back at least for me,
it happens to me. We just bought a car e.g. couple of months ago. We like the garage. We're gonna go back
to this garage because the service
is really great. So I will not I mean, at least if I would
have to choose to go for another car company, of course, I wouldn't
be expecting the same level of service. So and by that it's
probably I mean, at the current garage, if I would have to have a conversation
about buying a new car, etc, maybe you're going to be a little bit less pushy
because the service is good. So I know what I would be
losing if I will be switching. So that's a famous
pricing power and switching costs that we're
discussing here in fact. But the point is, how can you, through the Internet have a perspective on the
watts without having to pay marketing agency and spending a lot of money
on your investments. How can you get an
idea about what is the sentiment of the customers about the company that
you're about to invest into. Of course, the first one that I already
mentioned when we were discussing modes on
top of the pure, let's say technical
financial measure, which is return on
invested capital, was in fact, I showed you the Interbrand top 100
brands in the world. There are other agencies that are doing this
like brand z, e.g. and we're going to look at the example of Mercedes
when I will be sharing with you how to look at the customer sentiment for
Mercedes. So here e.g. on Interbrand, you see in fact, here we are not discussing
the value of the brand, but the movements, the variation year over year
and what you see in fact, not only do you see that Rosetta us is on
position number eight, you see that the brand
value has increased by ten per cent from the
previous year, 2021. What does that mean?
It means in fact that customers are happy
and the company has pricing power and has actually increased the pricing
power from one year to the other nodes by
ten per cent because that's the 10% is
about the brand value, the monetary or the
financial monetization of valuation of the brand value. But just by having this is at
least how I interpreted it. Just by having an increase
in the brand value. I consider just by
looking at Interbrand, that the perception
of the customers, of the bias is better. I'm gonna give you two other
examples here on this slide. If you look at position 17.19, you see that Facebook
has gone down by five per cent and Intel
has gone down by 8%. This is for me, just by
looking at the Interbrand, TOP 100s brands in the world. So this ranking that
comes out once per year, I have the first perception about what is the
customer sentiment, but that's not good
enough for me. So I will develop this. Introducing what I mentioned already a couple of seconds ago, the Net Promoter Score. So the Net Promoter Score is
a very maybe you know it, but if you're not, if
you're not aware of it, it's a very easy measure, in fact, of how people are, what is their sentiment
about e.g. a. Company? So we're going to see this also for the
employee sentiment, you're gonna be using the
employee Net Promoter Score. The calculation is pretty easy if you're doing
a survey 0-10, the people that are responding
nine to ten or promoters, the people that are responding seven to eight are
considered passive. And the people that are
responding 0-6 means that they are detractors. The NPS score is calculated. You take the percentage of promoters and you
subtract from that the percentage of detractors and that will give you a score, in fact an NPS score. Let me give a very
concrete example. We were discussing Mercedes and here I am sharing also the URLs. So you have today, at least from my
research, to have, to websites like customer
gurus and comparably. There are providing publicly, you don't need to pay for it. Maybe you need to reduce it, but you don't need
to pay for it. That actually provides
an Net Promoter Score. You see on the left hand
side for Mercedes Benz, the Net Promoter Score
on customer guru is 39. So they have by
far more promoters and detractors on comparably. You see that at least
for Mercedes Benz USA, they don't have it for
the overall company. You have a net
promoter score of 44. So you see that there
are 64% of promoters, 16 per cent of passives, and 20 per cent of detractors. So you see how the
NPS is calculated. It's 64% -20% that
gives a score of 44. Nodding percent is
an, a score of 44. And you see also on
those sides what is interesting is
that you can see, you can compare e.g. here in the manufacturing space. You see e.g. on the
right-hand side that Porsche customers by promoting more the brand
than Mercedes Benz, even though Mercedes Benz
comes seconds for the US. And you see, I was commenting this to my
wife yesterday as well. It's very interesting
because you see Tesla having a net
promoter score of 35, which is like the
lower, let's say, a promoter score
that we have here on this six-seven car
manufacturers. So nonetheless, 35 is positive. So I always tend to
say when you have a net promoter score that
is getting close to zero, the company probably, I mean, customers are not happy about
something at the company. But when you have such high
promoter scores are above 20, that's normally that you have more promoters and detractors. Just for, I mean, as you maybe have heard in the
previous lesson that I have in re-recording this very
first training that I wrote in 2019 that was
published August 20th. So we are now April 2023. I've been fully
re-recording this training. Also, of course,
I asked Chad GPT, if they could tell me the net
promoter score of Mercedes, why why having to look
for specific websites? And tragic PT does not
provide that information. So they provide the
definition of NPS, what it means, but
they will not provide the Net Promoter
Score of Mercedes. That's just for a
little, a little joke, but just a little
cliche about GPT. Alright, So for
customer sentiment, so keep in mind
that you can have a perspective on the overall customer
sentiment by looking at the brand movement
year over year that is being done by those
marketing agencies like Interbrand, like brand z. But you also have websites like comparably or customer
guru that do provide some sense of Net
Promoter Score of customer sentiment
about the company that you are about
to invest into. I would recommend you
that before investing, maybe as a level three tasks, you have to check what is the customer sentiment
about the company. But if you remember in
the scuttlebutt methods or even in the five forces
model of Michael Porter. It's not just about customers, but it's also about
internal people. So because one thing that
is not necessarily shown in a financial balance
sheet and that's a conversation that
would take us too far. So just let me make another
comment is that in fact, talented people are in fact not reflected in the balance sheet and the financial balance sheet. So, but it is important
that you have, I mean, if you're investing
into company as a shareholder, you hope, and you are expecting
for management to treat the people
in a correct way. And you hope that
people are motivated, that they will go a
supplemental mile to satisfy the customers. This is important also from
an investment perspective because this will have an
impact on profitability. This is what I'm showing here. There is an interesting
study that has been done by McKinsey a couple
of years ago. It's not too far away
where they were actually. So the study is called
performance through people. I've put you the URL, why
they were showing that companies that are people
and performance winner. So we're also people are very satisfied that the return on
invested capital in fact, is the highest compared
to companies that are purely performance-driven
versus companies that are only people focus but are not
performance-driven. Versus, let's say
average companies that do not pay really attention
to those elements. But companies as they call it, which are people and
performance winners. In fact, the return on
invested capital is the highest and that's basically
what we want as investors. Because when we invest in
India Company and the market is giving us the company
at a cheap price. What we hope is fact is
that the market will come back and that
the company would generate a lot of profits
over the next two years. And we're gonna see, are passive income coming
in without any issue. And of course, at the
market will see in fact the good performance of
the company, e.g. one. The markets get euphoric e.g. so, um, so keep this in mind. And from, let's say from
a research perspective. Now the question is, how can I, I've showed you how
to look at employee, sorry, at customer sentiment. How can I look at
employee sentiment? And I'm gonna share
with you the side that I've been using for many years, which is called glass or
the glass, the websites, not only surveys, payroll, let's say, feedbacks from the people that are working
in those companies. But they also survey when
people are providing feedback, they also serve a, what is the overall
employee sentiments? If people are happy
with the company, if people are happy
with the CEO. And this is what you see here. And I've taken the example of Mercedes Benz group as we
are taking that example. And afterwards I
gave you the example of Tesla and Twitter as well. So let's see that for
Mercedes Benz group, there are 4,500 reviews. So and there are 7,900
salary feedbacks provided. So I mean, you could
discuss I mean, when you're into auditing e.g. you could discuss if that is a representative sample
the company has. I don't know exactly, but let's imagine that the
company has 100,000 people. I mean, 4,500 reviews. That's nonetheless a lot. So statistically it's
kind of representative of about what is going
on in the company. Do I have to call up employees? So I had to know
somebody who knows somebody who works at Mercedes. No. Gloucester is providing me some insights into that company. And you see here on bullet point number two
at the bottom right, you see that 85% of the reviewers are recommending
Mercedes to friends. 89% approved the CEO. In fact, the overall score for the company is four
dot two out of five, which is a good score. I mean, I think the highest
one is the Microsoft's, which are sitting at
fool dot file dot four. I'm going to deepen that
a little bit further. The conversation I've taken into the extracts from the
Glassdoor Website. So you see that
e.g. for Mercedes, you have an overall
score of photo too. But what's interesting is e.g. when you look at the
trends on the bottom left, you see that the trend actually
is increasing since now, let's say the last 12 months. Even more interesting,
if you click on the CEO approval 89%, you see in fact that the CEO approval trends
is in fact flats, which is a good sign. So people, it seems like from the reviewers that people
are happy about the CEO. So that's the kind
of thing in fact, that provide you
some insights about the company that
you are potentially about to invest into. Glass is not the only one
comparably is doing the same. So not only are they
providing an NPS, So the customer sentiment, but they also providing
an E and P S, which is the employee
Net Promoter Score. And you see e.g. that former cities I did the same research. Here is again only
Mercedes Benz USA. So you had in fact 1132 total ratings, 149
employee participants. So they're providing a
culture score of photo, the one on five. And the overall, let's
say SEO score on this. Let say on a scale of
up to 100 is of 77. And what is interesting
is on the bottom right, you see the NPS score. So that's the, not this time
customer sentiment score, but it is the employee's
sentiment score and it is in fact
of 24, so it's 50, 1% promoters, 22% passives, and 27% detractors from Mercedes
Benz USA to be precise. And you could now, you may ask, Okay, But is this not this
not a beauty contest? Is this not dressed up? And I actually took a couple of companies that are,
I think interesting. One would be Meta and the
other one would be Twitter, which has been taken
over by Elon Musk. And it's pretty
interesting when you look, in fact, if it is on
comparably first, you have the URL
below that meta has an overall rating of 78 out of 100 for Mark Zuckerberg as CEO. And it's interesting
to see that Elon Musk is at 66 other 100s. Even worse for Twitter, you see that the NPS
is sitting at three. So there does a
couple of promoters, but also the amount of promoters is nearly as high as the
amount of detractors. So that's not good. While at Meta you
see that employees, apparently, they, I mean, 56% of the employees are promoters and 25%
are detractors. So you see, in fact, I mean, you read
through the press, we are April 2023 since Elon
Musk has taken over Twitter, that indeed things are not going very well
for Twitter there. I mean, I would say, a lot of, I will not say social plans, but people that are
in fact laid off. And they're like back-and-forth
about the strategy. But Twitter with the, let's say official accounts. I think that yesterday,
two days ago and in Musk announced that he did
not announce, but to, to announce that this is, will be no further official
accounts on Twitter, e.g. so then I compare this also on Glassdoor and on Glassdoor you see in fact for
Twitter specifically, and you just compare
it with what we were seeing with Mercedes. The overall score for
Mercedes, if you recall, was sitting at four dot t2 while at Twitter it sits
at three dots, three. Even more interesting,
when you look at the overall trends
on the bottom left, you see in fact how the
trends really has come down. With all due respect
for Elon Musk. He may be a brilliant guy, but you see that the way
how he has taken over Twitter has had an impact and this is reflected
in Glassdoor. So you could think that Gloucester is not
reflecting reality, but I believe that
this is an example. I will not say that there's
no scientific proof, but this is an example
of signals that you can get from the companies
that you're investing into. Last comment about Twitter, just look at the
CEO approval rate. It's sitting at 13 per cent. 13. So if you compare it
with all our calendars, who is the CEO of Mercedes, he has an approval
rate of nine per cent. So this is I mean, I'm not trying here
now to convince you, but at least I do use
sites like Glassdoor, like comparably to have a
perspective into the company, I do use the NPS score to have an idea about the
customer sentiment if that is being well-managed and if customers are happy
with the company or not, because that will
have an impact. If you have unhappy customers, a premise, your customers,
they're going to switch. Even if switching
costs are high, they will be so
****** off against the company that they're
going to switch. So I believe that this is
something as well that you, at the very end before taking
the investment decision, there will be good that you
do those small sanity checks about what is customer sentiment and what is employee sentiment? Last but not least, just food for thought
here about the CEO and the CEO stewardship and
how CEOs appreciate it. So I'm giving you, you probably know, a couple
of those people we have, Jeff Skilling from Enron, who was involved in a huge
scandal a couple of years ago, and the latest one, with all due respect
for those people, you have the CEO of WeWork, Elizabeth Holmes from
Theranos and our FTX France. Some bank men freed
where I've put you the URLs on YouTube and why I'm discussing this very
quickly here is that, I mean, as business owner, you better know who is
running the business. The problem is, of course, that you do not know if
you can trust this person. And how do you feel about the
person and the difficulty? And you remember Charlie Munger
was stating this as well, that he would like to have
great people that are running the company with a
lot of integrity and also with lots of fairness. And that's something
that is very, very difficult, in
fact, to extract. If you just look at
those interviews from Adam Neumann from we
work through our nose, from SBA, from FTX. It's very difficult. I mean, those people are
I mean, all of them, all the CEOs, they get
communication trainings, they get PR training. They know how to
speak in public. They know how to go around. Difficult question. So I mean, we are not
here now a psychologist, that's not the intention, but I think what you need to be attentive is please do not be fooled by the attitudes of a CEO that is
promising things. You need to do your homework and maybe trust
your gut feeling. How do you feel about
that person being the one that is running your investments
as a shareholder? So this is really
food for thoughts. I know it's not easy, but what I tried to
share with you is, and I'm coming back to
the example of Twitter, that maybe Elon Musk
is a brilliant guy. But when you have a CEO
approval rate of 13%, you have a lot of detractors. I mean I mean, by that you have a negative E&P as employee Net Promoter Score. I mean, you, even though
Elon Musk quotes e.g. during a public interview, speak very well,
be very strategic. B, let's say promising a lot of things at the very
end of the day, if he is making mad, all the employees of Twitter, the best talents will
go away in fact, and that's something that
happened as well at Twitter. So there are ways of
capturing some signal from the overall noise and positive
noise that the CEOs of companies are doing by looking at those
sites like Glassdoor, like comparably,
like customer guru for the customer sentiment. Alright, and then
last but not least, there are other
information sources and I've been asked a
couple of days ago, buy from, I mean, by an investor from the
US from Washington. What was my feeling about the
supplemental information? But first, I will just
want to come back to slides on the role of
the rating agencies. I do consider that
rating agencies are also an overall great source to have perspective about how they
feel about the company. Of course, they really messed it up during
the subprime crisis by providing very high ratings
on instruments that were, nonetheless, that's the
variant exposed to investors. And I think that for
normal companies that have a standard balance sheet where the business
is understandable. I like to look as well, or I consider that the rating
agencies is not just only giving me information about
what is the risk premium. If you remember when we
were discussing solvency, debt to equity ratios,
interest coverage ratios, what is the premium I
need to add to my cost of capital expectations given the
riskiness of the business. But also consider that it gives
me also a sentiment about how these normally
professional people think about the company. And I've put here again
as a reminder, Moody's, S&P and Fitch, they are the
ones like dB, ers, et cetera. She have other rating agencies, but the three big ones are
the Moody as a p and Fitch. In fact, if you
look at Mercedes, the example, you see in
fact, what is interesting. And of course this
comes back again to the long-term solvency
conversation. I see that Mercedes Benz
is categorized as an A2, which is investment-grade,
upper medium grades. That's at least
their perception. Alright, and then to
close up this lesson, I just want to, so coming back to the
question that I was asked by this investor
from Washington a couple of days ago about what is my feeling about
Morningstar in fact, because I sometimes speak about Morningstar and as already said, there is nothing I have no commercial link with
with this company. I'm not a shareholder
of this company. I pay my monthly subscription. That's the only paid
subscription I pay every month. So just to be clear about
the disclaimer here. So when, I mean, just taking a step back, we have been through this
whole course or at least I have been sharing with
your veterans Bradley, how or what are the
tests that are used? I'm using between level one. So those are the, let's say the fundamental
screens, level two, that's the price to book the dividend
discount models that intrinsic value calculations
on earnings and cash flows. And then on every
three, I do look at customer sentiment and
employee sentiment because for me it's important to know
what is going on inside the company
and how buyers feel about the company if
there is or is that buyers would turn away
from the company. And mourning science facts, which is one of the most
known sites providing, let's say, financial
information. They're going to share my
perspective on Yahoo Finance. So in fact, I extracted
for the example of Mercedes has a couple
of elements here. So e.g. on the mornings. So when you go on the
summary quotes page of a specific company,
they provide you. In fact, I will just follow the numbers here on
bullet point number one, they are providing
information how they feel the company
has a mode or not. So you may have companies
that are listed having white mode and narrow
mode, no mode. And then you have e.g. on
bullet point number two, they provide are
certain perspective on from which moment on what they
call the five-star price, from which moment on
they consider that the share price of the company
is really super cheap. And here you see that former sit as they consider at current, let's say fundamentals
and their analysis. I don't know how they
have calculated this, but they consider that
if the share price is below $70 a share, That's, the company is
actually very cheap. This is what they call
a five-star price. And they provide also you
see here a fair value. So they are estimating
that the fair value of one Mercedes Benz share is 117 and at the last
clause is at 76 per cent. So they actually telling
you according to them. So please do not take
this now as a commitment, but according to them, That's currently Mercedes Benz. You can buy it at 34, 34 per cent discount. I need to be very
transparent with you. I mean, you have heard previously
in the course that I've bought Mercedes adds a
little bit below 53, are around 53 a share. So I've did the latest
IV calculations and indeed it's telling me
that it's around 120-130. So I can understand from where they're coming
from in terms of fair value, but I did myself my calculation, looking at the latest
financial statement. What is interesting as
well is that they are providing a price
to book as well. You see that Here's mentioning that the price
to book of Mercedes is 087. They provide the
price to earnings, which is five dot 14. They are providing the interest
coverage ratio as well, which we're seeing is 48 times. So it means that, I mean, it's like a triple a according to the
interest coverage ratio. So the risk premium TV
and it is nearly zero. They also on six, calculate the debt to equity, which is showing
zero dot 99 here. And they also provides
a calculation on profitability on
invested capital. They're calculating
it as of December 31, 2022 at 870 1%, which is basically
our ROIC tests. So you see in fact that
a lot of the tasks that we were looking into, their providing the measures
for that also already my points and then we'll make a comment at
the very end of the day. But let me just make the
pointer on Yahoo Finance. Yahoo Finance is
also public website. You have a lot of inflammation. You see that they provide also an undervaluation
price or for Mercedes, they are saying that
the below 72 is cheap. They provide price to
book unadjusted as well. You see that their
price to book is 086, so it's not the same
number as Morningstar. They do provide trailing
price to earnings. So that's like
trailing 12 month. That's a sliding window
time period of 5008, where if you recall, Morningstar was calculating
four dots, five dots, 14. So it's pretty close with
zero.06 of difference. And they provide up
to equity as well. Yes, it's no, sorry, it's not the debt to
equity they are providing. In fact here also on
management effectiveness, they're providing some
sense of profitability, but they're not providing the profitability on
invested capital, e.g. that's a shortcoming of
the Yo findings website. So now maybe you're thinking, Well, why do I need to
use the companion sheet? Why do I need to read the
financial statements if those guys actually
giving me what I need, which is represented in
level one, level two. And my point is the following. As a series value investor, I want you to be able
to calculate and understand what you
have calculated and potentially using tools like Yahoo Finance mornings
or as conformation. But I believe that
series and vessels, they do their homework, sorry, I do believe
it's too easy just to rely on an external source. And by the way, they are clearly putting a
disclaimer that they're not responsible for what they
are actually calculating. But I must say they
are pretty accurate. For mornings. I must say it's pretty
accurate infant, I cannot say the contrary, and I do use it also when I have to make a
big investment decision. I also have at the very end, after having done my
level 12.3 tasks, I have a quick look
at Morningstar. If they are far away from
my assumptions on that. Alright, so this is wrapping
up chapter number five. So as said, we are discussing that's on top of the level one,
level two tasks. You have things that you have to look into which go
a little bit beyond. Which is in fact a base on what Philip Fischer called
the scuttlebutt methods, customer sentiment and then
pre employee sentiment. So if you are coming
back on this slide, so I tried to show you
how you can cover 1.2. Now you may ask what about supplies and competition on
supplies already told you, I have not found any website. We're actually suppliers
are providing feedback about their buyers
in that sentence. So I don't know e.g. what is the feeling of the
Mercedes-Benz suppliers versus Mercedes would
be interesting. But the very end of the day, it's more important to
be able to monitor how customers and employees
feel about the company now, but competition, and of course, when we speak about competition, we're moving into
the strategic area. Here. We, I mean, for those who are aware, we
are going to be, we should be discussing
Michael Porter and mintzberg, the value stick, pass live ratio analysis,
those kind of things. I need to be very
transparent here and it's not about me now making
promotion of another course, but having a perspective at competition is something
that is not easy. And you would need
really to invest time to understand what
is competition doing? What are the differentiators
that unique selling points between one and the
other company for that, in fact, very quick. Let's say I'm pointing here to cause that also I'm teaching a university that is called masterclass and entrepreneurship and strategic management. When fact, I have a full
chapter why I'm discussing how to make a strategic
assessment of a company. I'm actually also, you see here also the
logo of Starbucks. When I'm actually using
all those tools, the past, let the variety
of the portal and actually explaining to you how to make a strategic
assessment of Starbucks, e.g. so that's something that
would really take us too far. And this other value investing training at the very end of the day and it's not now to
be considered as a shortcut. Of course, competition
is important. I will not say the contrary, but the most important here are the customers and the
employees before competition. And you actually have
people that say, we don't even want to
look at competition, as long as we're able to delight our customers
and delight our employees and our products are good and our
services are good. And now post-sales
service is also good. I mean, profitability
will be there. In fact, I believe
that's a little bit a true short-term perspective on things I believe that
you need to know also. I mean, when I was running the businesses I was
responsible for, I was looking at
competition as well, but of course I was
spending more time on customers and employees
versus competition. Last but not least, that's the last slide for this lecture. So I wanted to also to
share with you what is Warren Buffett's perspective on the scuttlebutt method. And actually in the 990s eight Berkshire Hathaway
annual shareholder meeting, he was asked by a person if he's using Philip Fischer
scuttlebutt method and I'm just reading, so that's a quote from
Warren Buffet was saying, and then I will summarize. So he was saying basically
that I believe that as you're acquiring knowledge
about industries in general companies
specifically, that there really isn't anything like first doing some
reading about them and getting out and talking to competitors,
customers, suppliers, employees, current employees
and whatever it may be, you will learn a lot,
but it should be the last 20 or ten per cent. I mean, you don't want to get too impressed by
that because you really want to start
with the business by you think the economics are good. Quote from Warren
Buffett in 1998. So basically what,
what does this mean? So he's not saying
that the scuttlebutt method, it's not interesting. He's saying indeed, I mean, at that time probably he didn't. I mean, Glassdoor and
comparably did not even exist. So indeed he was
taking a little bit the same productivity Fisher go and talk to the customers, go and talk to the
supplier's go and talk to the employees and
the competitors. But what is important
here, and that's why also, I've put the comparably
glossed or let's say, tools for capturing
some sense of employee and customer sentiment as level of three
at the very end, it's really the
cherry on the cake. I mean, you should
not start with this. You should start with level
one fundamental screens. And if the company
passes those filters, then you go into the
intrinsic value calculation with what we have
been discussing. And only at the
very end you spent a little bit of time
just to confirm a good investment
decision by also having a perception if employees and customers are happy
about the company. That's basically what Warren
Buffett is saying here. He's saying that you
should spend the last 20 to ten per cent on
scuttled button methods. And I'm fully agreeing
with him on that. That's why also this
course is I mean, the whole substance of the
course is about the level one, level two tasks and a little
bit of the level of three. But I think it's good that
you have this perspective. What are those level 3.5. Just by browsing
on the internet, you can find some very
interesting information. Alright, wrapping up here. And the next lecture actually will be the
dominant conclusion lecture. So we add the ends of all
the tasks and I will be wrapping up all my thoughts
in the next closing lecture. Thank you.
25. Conclusion & final assignment: All right, well
investors, welcome back. So you have reached the conclusion of the
Auto Value Investing, which has been
actually the first training I've published on various educational
platforms with the most important
one being Demi. And first of all, I would
like to congratulate you and thanking you for having taken time to or to give me the time to walk you through how I perceive
value investing. And I hope that it was
an interesting journey. I mean, let me just take
a couple of minutes just to conclude on the out of
value investing training. The first thing is, I mean, you can contact me, and I will provide you the
contact information. You have access to Q&A as well. So you can contact me and
do your own valuation, and I would recommend you pick one of the
following brands, BMW, Coca Cola Marks
of Disney TNT. You can also use
another one I had today student who did a
valuation of Google and asked me to have a check if he did the evaluation in correct way or if there were
any mistakes in it. And by the way, I
must say he did it in a very good way, in fact. Um, so, of course, when we speak about
doing the valuation, I'm expecting from
you that you follow the methodology that I have been extensively discussing
with you over those. I think the course is now around 15 hours and that
you do the level one test, level two test, and
the level three test. One important thing, I mean, this is a lecture that I've
been updating in May 2024. So we are May 8, 2024 when I've been re
recording this lecture, a year ago, when I redid the re recording of the whole
Ato V investing training, actually, I would give you
access to an Excel file. The problem with the Excel
file is, okay, I mean, it was worth something to be able to calculate
the intrinsic value. But you had to do a lot
of things manually, downloading the
financial reports, extracting the information,
extracting those variables. So you had 19
variables to fill out. That's not very, let's
say, straightforward. And I do remember, by the way, and maybe some of you have
seen my emails in early 2023. I think was April 2023 when I re recorded the whole the
Auto Val investing training, that there were some
glitches in the Excel file. So I I had not changed the
Excel file since 2020, and I wanted to do a better
improved version 2023. And I ended up actually having to do six
iterations because, yeah, Excel is great, but it follows what you ask
the model to do. And I mean, if you
errors in the formulas. Obviously, it's not correct. So on top of that, and I've already been
mentioning this, and by the way, in
the next lecture, which is the bonus lecture, I'm showing you a full valuation with a tool that we
have been developing since November 2023 that
we just launched May 1, 2024, which is a custom GPT
for those who know chat GPT. So this is called Vine Value
Investing Next Generation. So it's a custom GPT. Specifically trained and fine
tuned for value investors. And instead of using
the Excel file, so I have decided to remove
the EXL file because it's just too risky and there is too manual work involved in it. And we created after six
months of development, this tool that actually allows
you and we have created, first of all, this
tool for ourselves. So I give you the example just a couple of seconds
ago that I had today a student from
Israel that asked me to check the valuation
that he did on a company. And it took me two,
three prompts, and I'm showing this to
you in the next lecture. It took me two, three
prompts just to check if the person had done a correct
valuation of the company. While if you would
be 1.5 years ago, it would take you probably like an hour to do the calculations, the intrinsic valuation and
to the level one, level two, and the level three tests because it was not consolidated, you had to go on different
websites, et cetera. Today, everything
is consolidated in this tool that is called Vinch value investing
Next Generation, and it is available
as a custom GPT on the Open AI I would say store, which is accessible if you
have a HGPDPlus subscription. Some people may not like that, but that's the
condition to be able to use any custom GPTs, not just our Custom GPT,
but for the time being, OpenI has decided
that in order to access those custom
GPTs because they are powered by the latest
OpenAI HGPDPlus model, which is HGPT four, you need to have a HCPD
plus subscription. So sharing in the next lecture, I'm showing you how to do
full valuation with this, but I promise you, and as said, I'm really
insisting on this. We did this for
ourselves, first of all, so we are five
people involved in this project for the time being, maybe the team will grow. But we really did it
already for ourselves because I had enough
of my L file, and it took me too much time for every company to do
a so I would say, even a filtering mechanism on my investment universe
with Morningstar, even though I like Morningstar, but it was just much
time to do this. And then for every
intrinsic valuation, I really had to download
the financial reports or go on Morningstar
and extract the values. So you're going to see
in the next lecture, which is the Appendix
one bonus lecture, you're going to
see how easy it is actually to do a Level one, Level two and Level three. So the methodology
that I've taught you in this chorus how you can actually do this in a very, very productive
and efficient way, and you will not lose a lot of time by using Vinch doing this. So I hope it will be
of value for you. So that's just one thing. So that's just to mention that, yes, I've been re recording
this in May 2024. I've decided to remove the Axl file because
it was just too risky and it was just taking too much time for the
people to do this. Now you have a tool that you
can actually just prompt. It's an AI tool and
you can actually do various variations of
an intrinsic valuation and ask questions about
value investing theory, but also it has at the moment of starting when we launched
it, May 1, 2024, it had 1,100 plus companies and around 1
million data points, including level
three information like brand NPS and ENPS. So, so I recommend
you to go into the next lecture and take
a couple of minutes. I think it's a ten minute
lecture that you see how evaluation is done
with VNG, in fact. So I think I mean,
just to wrap up, I don't want to
controle about VNG. VN is just a tool that will help you in your
investment journey. I think what is really key, and I hope that you will
have understood that what is really key as a value investor is that you don't
act as a speculator, but you really act
as a business owner, and that when you buy companies, as I was explaining when I
was speaking, for example, about Blue Chip companies, that there are companies
that I do like, but they are just too expensive. So I have to wait
patience being one of the potent attributes that you need to have in the
mindset of a value investor, I need to wait until
the market Mr. Market is giving me the company at
a very undervalued price. So and at a certain
point in time, maybe you have to
when the market is overvaluing the company. So I told you that to
me is like when it is 15% to 20% above intrinsic
value that I tend then to throw out and
to take in sort to realize the capital gains
on the share price. And while this so during the period of
time between the moment, I purchased the company and remember that I
said that you can never perfectly time the
bottom of a curve of a share price versus the moment where you
sell the company, while during that
period of time, I want to have passive income through return to shareholders, which is at least cash
dividends or share buybacks, if you remember what
we were discussing in the fundamental screen. So I think this graph really summarizes
everything that I'm trying that I try to teach you in the add
of value investing. So this is, for me,
like, and actually, I mean, I cannot turn the camera around because otherwise
you will not see me. But here, in fact, I
have the exact I do have the exact one
pager on my desk here, and I have here the top 100
best global brands of 2023, and I have here my
three level test, my methodology that I
always keep in mind so that I avoid
becoming arrogant when I'm very successful
investing into the stock market, that I always keep in
mind, what is my method? What is my methodology? So I really recommend
you maybe for you. I know that some people
have been doing this. I had an investor from
Dubai who told me, I like this one page. I've printed out the one
pager, and actually, I have hang it above my
screen so I can see it all the time that I do
not forget how I should behave when investing
to the stock market. And as I said, I mean,
remember that being a good value investor
and just being a good investor and not
speculator requires practice. It requires reading
and understanding accounting data because
it's the lingo, it's the vocabulary of business. You need to be able to know what the value is of
what you are buying or what you are
potentially selling. To have a repeatable
investment process. I think that's really,
very, very, very important. You remember I said a
certain in time that it happened to me more than ten, 15 years ago that I became arrogant because of, let's say, the successes that I had
investing into the stock market, which allow me today. So I've moved now to Spain
since two years Rough cuff, and I'm actively retired
at the age of 50. I'm now nearly 52. So this is thanks
to passive income through dividends and
through value investing. So I'm very thankful for that. I think it's important
that you keep always in mind what is the right
mind that you need to have. And this is something
that I repeat to myself. What is the mindset, and
I stick to this mindset, and I stick to this repeatable
investment process. So, of course, and I think that could be kind of my
concluding message. One course of whatever 14 or 15 hours can
never be exhaustive. And for that reason,
I mean, this course, the first time with
the first version that has become public has
been written in 2020. I think it was August 2020. And in the meantime, I've written more
advanced courses about how to read financial statements,
those type of things. And, of course, what we are now trying to do as well
is to integrate all that knowledge into Vin
as a tool to make it as easy to you to have this
247 advisor or let's say, support agent that can help you instead of having
to send me an email, of course, you can
send me emails. I always tend to answer very quickly within
one to three days, except if I'm on
business travel. But I think it's important
that you have also an AI agent that kind of
concentrates this knowledge, and that's really the whole
idea of this Vingch project. So remember that so as I said, that one course
cannot be exhaustive. There are other courses that are more advanced courses than
the Auto Valley investing, but I believe that the Auto
Valley investing is giving you already a very good layer. And I mean having now
given even conferences, public conferences
about this course, to bankers, to investors, I have received a
lot of feedback over the last four years that
indeed it looks I mean, people like to see a very structured
approach that I have versus value investing, including the Level three, where even some investment bankers
told me that something that is not covered very often, in fact, actually
by banks as well. Remember as well, and be humble to yourself
that you will do mistakes when you
invest your real money. What is important is that the mistakes do
not wipe you out. So please, again, that's
really my recommendation. Do not take up debt to
accelerate your wealth because it may really
jeopardize actually whole, let's say, investment
process and the whole investment
that you did over maybe a couple of
years, a couple of months. So learn from it,
iterate from it, and of course, you may adapt
your investment process. This is just, I would
say, as I said, I'm just giving you
how I'm doing it. I hope it's useful for you, but of course, you need
to make your own choices. I do not invest into biotech. I do not invest into banks. I do not invest into insurance, but maybe you feel super
comfortable investing into insurance companies because you're coming out of that area. Again, I mean, you have to I'm not saying that this
is now the Holy Grail, but it gives you some
kind of baseline on at least how I
invest since now, I think it's now 25
years, and, I mean, I have not been wiped out by following this repeatable
investment process. So again, thanks so
much for having taken the time and the patience for
going through this course. I mean, you can follow
me on LinkedIn. You can follow me
on the website, three sixqua capital.com. You can also follow me,
of course, on Ving GPT, as now this is a new project that exists since May 1, 2024. And we do have also
YouTube channel, but you can always contact me either through
Q&A sections of this course or you
send me an email in case you have questions or
things that are not clear. And I have seen over the last
four years that a lot of students have taken
the opportunity either to post Q&A questions. There are a lot of Q&A questions on the learning
platforms, or otherwise, they send me a private email or sometimes they
just come to webinar, and in the webinars, they
happen every quarter, at least. So their people can also
suggest topics that I will then cover during the
webinar if it is not confidential.
That, thanks again. And yeah, I would say,
do not forget, maybe, to do at least the next lecture, which is about seeing how
Ving does a full valuation. Now, just by prompting by providing a couple of
prompts to Ving in fact. And I think I mean, with that, you will gain a lot of time on the valuation of companies
and your investment process. So thanks again and
talk to you very soon.
26. Case study : Procter & Gamble (PG) - full valuation with Vinge: We'll come back, Val investor. So after the conclusion lecture, this is a bonus lecture, supplemental lecture
where I wanted to share, actually, and this is May
2024, an update that we did. So maybe some of you
who did the training in the past are aware that
there was an Excel file where you could actually
you had to manually fill in all the necessary
elements to be able to provide and to perform
an intrinsic valuation. What we did in the meantime, after the announcement
or an announcement that OpenAI did
in November 2023, so which would
actually allow people to create their own custom GPTs on top of OpenAI's CHA GPT plus. So we have actually created over the last six months
a custom GPT. So it's an AI tool for value investors that has
been fine tuned by us, which has around 100
pages of knowledge. It knows exactly. It has the content of the
value investing. It knows exactly what
the level one level two level three analysis
is, and it has around at the moment that we launch it, we launched it May 1, so it's a week ago that
we launched it. So it has rough cut 1 million data points
for the level one, level two, level three to be able to perform
those analysis. So what I want to
show you here is how a full valuation
process would look like, actually, with Ving. So the first thing, I
mean, I mean, here, it's when I was prompting the model. So I was interested in prompt
and gamble and Mondale. So the first thing
is I'm asking winch. And again, there is a
specific training on Demi about how to use Vinch
if you're interested, that really goes deeper
into understanding Vinch, how to prompt correctly Vine. The risk where hallucinations can happen or what
a bad prompt is. So here I'm asking
Vinch to check if it knows Proc Dan gamble if it has the company in
its investment universe. So it answers,
yes, I do have it, and it's part of the industry household and personal products. And now I'm just very
straightforward asking Winch instead of doing
this manually myself, just perform a level one
analysis for the company. So for Proc Dan gamble. The data points are
updated on a weekly basis, so you don't need to download
the financial reports. You don't need the
Morningstar subscription. You just go there or Yahoo Finance website
consultation, just go in there. You ask inch, perform
a level one analysis, and it provides you.
You see it here. The mode, the price to earnings, didn't yield, divident
payout ratio. The profitability ratios
like return on assets, return on invested capital,
the debt to equity. And what is interesting,
it provides you also an interpretation and
analysis of those results. So what is important here
to say or to highlight or to call out and just look at the price to earnings ratio, you see that the price to earnings ratio for
Proctor is above 22. And actually, inch is
mentioning that it's a little bit higher versus the 15 or ten that we
are searching as a value investor for that
specific fundamental screen. We are here on the level
one fundamental screens. How does Ving know that?
Because we have trained inch? So Ving has been trained with the content of the
value investing, so it knows how to
perform a level one test, but it knows what a good or
bad dividend payout ratio is 30 to 70%. It knows what a good
RIC is eight to 10%. It knows as well what a cheap price to earnings ratio or what a
cheap price to book ratios, what a good debt
to equity ratio. So it has been fine tuned by us. So that's why it already is mentioned that 22 is
maybe a little bit high versus the 15 or ten on the PE ratio that
we are looking for. So here I mean, what
is interesting, compared to websites like
Yahoo Finance Morningstar, they do not really provide
you an interpretation. Vinch because we have Fine Tunit is providing
interpretation on those ratios. Now we are asking because we are not only interested
in Proct and gamble, we're interested in Mondiz, which is not
necessarily competitor, but they are very
close, let's say, serving similar type
of customer segments. So we're asking Ving to perform a level one analysis
on Mondiz and to compare it with the
previous level one analysis of Proctor. We don't like is that
too much tax for us, so the results are
there, but we would like actually to have this in
a more comprehensive way. So we're asking Ving provide us the results and
structure the results in a comprehensive
table and provide the results side by side. And actually, you prompt
the model, you see it here, and Vin is actually
indeed showing both companies with level
one ratios side by side, in fact, and then also
providing some type of assessment of so comparing
both companies together. Now, something that
we also, of course, interested in Level one
as value investors, we want to have
consistency on the ROIC. So we are asking Vinch actually, not just to tell us how was the RIC evolution over
time for both companies, but even showing this to
us in a graph format. This is what you see here, and you see actually how and this is something you can
even download the GPAC file. That's something I mean, that's the power of Open
AI. You can do this. And so you can actually
use this GPAC, for example, in a presentation if you'd be student,
for example. One of the things
that when we discuss, so that's for the
level one part. One of the things
when we discuss the level two part is that, I mean, in the Excel file, you have to decide what are the default values for your cost of capital, for
your growth rates. And one of the things
that we wanted to have because I often receive
that question from students and from
other value investors is so the default value
would be between 6% and 7%. And what we wanted
to have in order to make Winch much more productive
than this Excel file, is that actually we have fueled, we have trained VNC
on various costs of capitals for the I think it
has around 150 industries, and every company, so
when we launched VNG, it had 1,100 plus companies. So every company
is classified in one specific industry
of those, let's say, 150 200 industries, and every industry has its
own cost of capital, and this is updated
on a yearly basis. So it's using Aswadmodarn's public
database of cost of capital. So here you see that
prop and gamble. So you can not only
use a default, cost of capital of 7% in VNG, but you can actually
adapt the calculation and ask Vinch so
either you tell Vinch the percentage that
you want to use or here I've shown you here in this example that I'm
asking Ving to use the appropriate
cost of capital for both companies given the
industries that they are in. So this is actually
what you see here. It comes out, it comes
out actually with ProctnGamble with a
result of rough cut, 7% cost of capital, so 69 or 97. And for Mondes a cost of
capital of 53 rough cut. And now, so that's now the
cost of capital conversation. What is the starting
point for this? And now we are
asking Vin actually to perform the
level two analysis, which is calculate as the IV, discounted cash flow and discounted future
earnings per share. And it will actually
calculate and will provide you so both values for both companies and compare it with the
latest share price. So I think that's
really fantastic. Just have to prompt this.
And not later than today, so we are May it's eighth, yes, 8 May 2024, Wednesday. It's nearly 7:00 P.M.
Malaga time in Spain. And not later than today, I had a student who did the closing assignment
and asked me, can you check if my
calculations are correct? So he was still using the old XL file that has a lot of risk,
a lot of glitches. I remember when I did
the latest update, 2023, I had to do six
iterations because I changed the formulas and
there were errors in it. So I had to apologize
a couple of times before coming up really with a good version of
the Excel file. But at the end, you
still have to do the manual work of retrieving
the information, right? So here, the advantage is that when this student
asked me this afternoon, I think it was a
student from Israel to check if his
calculation was correct, I mean, with one or two prompts. So level one analysis of the company and level two
analysis of the company, done, actually. So it
took me like what, 30 seconds to have
the information. I think that's really the beauty and why we have created inch. I, first of all,
we have created it for us as value investors. So I'm not alone
in this project. We are five people
in this project with other value investors because
we really believe this increases the productivity and the investment
journey by being able to have those data
points by being able to automate level one level two
and level three analysis. So you saw level one,
you saw Level two now. And here you see as well that
you can actually for Vinch specifically ask Winch what are the assumption that
you're using per default? Of course, if you're giving
an explicit indication or information or
instruction to inch, it will use I mean, that will override the
default assumptions. But you could just
ask Vinch perform a level two analysis
on this company, whatever Mondels and it
will use per default, 30 years without terminal value, 3% growth rate for over 30
years and 7% cost of capital. Here, I just wanted to show you through this
prompt that first of all, it's transparently explaining
what are the assumptions. But it's also showing you
that on the discount rate, it has this time specifically
not used the 7% default, but it has used
the discount rate specifically retrieved for
proctanGabl and Mondes. So just to show you
that the model, I mean, you can interact with
the model and play with it. So last but not
least, of course, we have learned in the
Auto val investing level one, level two, and level three, VNG has ten years of
brand data points. It has net promoter score. It has employee net
promoter score. So you can ask, actually, Vin GPT for the
largest companies in the world to provide
brand valuation, brand growth, net
promoter score, employee promoter score,
and those type of things. It has that
information available, and here you see
it concretely on the example of
Proctor and Mondelez. We'll wrap up here. I mean, if you're interested about VNC, you can either go on our
website, vingbt.com, or you have links directly to
having access to the tool. As I said earlier, you will
need a HGPTPlus subscription. That's the condition
that Open AI has set for the time being. It's like this. We don't have the
choice because it's using HGPTFour which is
the most powerful model, and you can only have
access to it if you have a HGPTPlus subscription. It's not a subscription with us, but it's a subscription
with OpenAI, in fact. That's really that's
mandatory requirement, and you don't have a choice
for using any Custom GPT, not just VNC GPT,
but any Custom GPT. And then on the website, you can also see the link to our discord community
where we are also publishing things
about VN release notes, if there are feature requests,
those type of things. That's the place. So go on our discord community and
provide feedback there. Things that you
would like to see in the future development
cycles of VNC of course. And then you will
have also the link if you're on the Udemi platform, and listen to this video, you can directly see that in the courses that are
published on Udemi there is a specific course
on VNchR to go deep into how to use VNC
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27. Case study : Evergrande : how to analyse its debt position: Welcome to the value investor channel. Hey Val Investors, welcome back to the very investor channel. In this week's episodes where there'll be speaking about the Chinese other grounded group. And more specifically, if the company would pass our debt and solvency tests. So as you may have heard and seen is about ever ground near, there were lately a lot exposing the pressed related to payment issues, specifically on bonds and more specifically their offshore bonds where they were missing a couple of deadlines. Before we go into the analysis of our Grundy. As always, usually financial disclaimer that this communists for informational and educational purposes only and it's not a direct offer or solicitation of an offer to buy or sell. So let's get started. So let's look for us who is of a grandness over grandly is actually the 120 seconds on the Fortunately with I found solace. It's a huge company which serves actually enriches involved in a major industry. So they're active in real estate, New Energy, autos, property services, and even have a theme park. So that is called African and very lands. And they're providing human health services and in a lot of other things. So they do employ around 200 thousand employees in China. And they are linked according to some statistics, to A3 dot-dot-dot 8 million jobs, and they create more than 3 million jobs every year. So if you look at their main revenue pillars, so obviously the property development and this is where the whole depth conversation comes from, is the biggest part of their revenues. So investment, property and property services, those also play some important role, but really, really more than 80 percent of their revenues are linked to property development. And specifically they are mostly present in the east of China. So the Shandong regions, Guangdong, Guangxi, Hunan, et cetera. So there are a lot present day in terms of property development, which other regions that are having most ever a residential projects for sale or that are actually scheduled for sale? The why why are we discussing today? So it's October 2021 way I were discussing this. So there is an issue happening in China and we'll come back to this when we speak about the Chinese government implementing the three red line principles. So that the average house price in China has been growing like crazy since now, half a decade. And it becomes less and less affordable for the people. And some people actually seeing as money is so cheap, which is indeed the case due to low interest rates, that there is a creation of a bubble. And some, actually, some people say actually that ever Grundy is the expression of these real estate bubble that may implodes and we'll have a domino effect on the financial markets. So before we move forward, one interesting point, just to refresh everybody's mind is about this bubble definition or what creates bubbles. So in fact, when we are looking at real estate bubbles and it was the same during the subprime crisis initially, what happened is there was a very rapid increase in the market product property until the process that are suitable in time, they become just or they reach unsustainable levels. And then obviously they're gonna be there's gonna be a decline, so they're gonna be corrected. And you can look into this specifically when you have a gap that builds up between the fair value, so the real value of the asset and the market value when that gap grows exponentially. We're very probably be in a bubble creation scenario. What, and in fact, the Chinese authorities, they, they saw this, they saw the levels of depth that we're growing. They saw the prices of land also that were rising incredibly high in China and also the sales of real estate sales that were booming. And in August 2020, the Chinese government in fact defined and impose three, let's say, three attributes that the real estate developers had to follow in case they would continue, they would like to continue to grow that depth. And three so it's called the three red lines guidance and the three red lines guns actually, and the three attributes later that they are linked to. First of all, that the liability to acid ratio from our balance sheet of the company. So for the real estate developers, the Chinese government is forcing them to have a liability to acid ratio excluding the advanced received. So advanced placement payments of the owners that is below 70 percent and that gearing ratio of less than 100%. That's a second attribute. And the third red line that real estate developers cannot cross is the cash to short-term depth of more than one time. So that's the ratio that they need to follow as well. What is interesting, what the Chinese government in fact has decided it's an imposed on this real estate developers is that if they are matching those three red line, so if their liability to asset ratio is indeed below 70 percent and then gearing ratio below 100 and the cash are short-term. Dhap is more than one time, so they have enough cash to support the short-term adapt so they can continue to grow that depth by 15 percent on an annual basis. And if they do not match one criteria, they can only grow the depth by 10 percent if they do not match two of those three criteria, that annual growth In depth of those real estate developers can only grow by 5%. And if they do not match the three criteria, which in fact is the case for ever granted. We're going to see that later on. They indeed are absolutely not allowed to growth, adapt so that the growth of the dapp is, can only be at 0%. And this is something that also UBS has been sharing an interesting documents in January 2000, 2001. If you look also at the, let's say the price of our Grundy have a grenade being quoted on the Hong Kong Stock Exchange. What was interesting to see is that in after oecus 2020, the share price was at around 28 Hong Kong dollars, and today it's at three. So the obviously the, let's say the speculators, I don't think those are investors, but the speculators, they saw that over ground. It was overpriced at 28 and there was a cell of that happened and the sell of continuous up to today. And so if you're interested, you can look on the Hong Kong Stock Exchange ever Grundy, the ticker is 33. 33. And you're going to see that between August 2020 where the stock was priced at around 28, It's no I mean, the stock price has been divided by ten. So what we are looking here is specifically analyzing the adapts. And for those who are interested, you can have access to a depth value investing course on Skillshare and Udemy platform that is called the art of value investing. But here we're going to look specifically at the upper grounded adapter. And we're going to look at a couple of interesting ratios that are part of our fundamental tasks. One being the low debt to equity and the other one being also how external rating agencies, what was their sentiment about the depth that is carried by other grounded in their balance sheets. So if we start with analyzing the debt to equity ratio already when looking at the annual and quarterly reports of ever Grundy, there is already one thing that is pretty interesting to see is that they are carrying bonds. Not only obviously, I mean, the stock listing on the Hong Kong Stock Exchange with a ticker 33. 33 is obviously listed. But you can already see from looking at the annual and quarterly report I've ever Grundy that they carry senior nodes. So Syria, a senior corporate obligations that are due short-term 2022 and 2023 at a massive cost interest rate of 11, 12, and 13 percent, which already kind of shows if you know how corporate bonds work, that the depth is considered as being very risky. So they need to pay off a high coupon in order to be able to put together a fresh money from those corporate obligations. And what is interesting as well, and there's an interesting analysis that has been done also by Bloomberg is that the amount in terms of millions of dollars that have a grand day has to pay. I mean, there is a lot that has to be paid between now, so end of 2021 and by end of 2023. So if you learn something that you need also to know is that there is in the adapt that ever ground is carrying, there is some onshore tab, so that is debt that is due and that has to be paid out to Chinese credit holders. And there is offshore depths and the option of depth. So this is where the credit tellers are outside of Shanna. What is interesting is what happens as ever Gandhi was short of cash over the last weeks, is that ever Grundy was able to cover and to pay out part of the coupons. That Would you, for the own short absolute to the Chinese credit told us, but some offshore creditors and they would not receive the money that they should have received later to bond coupons because actually there was not enough cash in the balance sheet. So as part of the assets of our Grundy and this obviously created a huge increased the fact that markets became very nervous about it. We'll, we'll have a grantee be able to pay off already the coupons and the payments that are due array now short-term, not even looking at what is the amount of coupons that have to be paid out in 2022 up to 2023. So as value investors, we obviously, and this one of a very interesting ratio that we look. The debt to equity, debt to equity analyses the liabilities. And when you have a look at the balance sheet of F0 grand day, and I've been looking at the consolidated balance sheets of ever granted until end of June 2021. So those those are unaudited figures because it's an intermediate quarterly reports. So half your report, what you can calculate is that ever Grundy is carrying a total amount of liabilities at 2 0, 1 dot 966534. So it's two billions of yuan RMB is, while the equity is only at 411041. And so there is clearly an issue if you would do the calculation between the amount of liabilities and equities, you divide 19, 6, 6 by 4, 11. You, you see that the debt to equity ratio is at 386%, so at three dot-dot-dot 86 percent and even the nuts depth. I mean, there is a problem. Let's be very clear. There is a problem in the amount of adapted that of a ground-up carries towards compared to total equity. And we as value investors, we tend to like to buy into companies where the debt to equity is below 3. So already here, Let's be very clear. It's a fail in terms of debt to equity ratio for APHA Grundy. The second ratio, when we look at depth of companies in general as value investors, is what we call the interest coverage ratio. So the lower the ratio, the mother company is burdened by that expenses and less capital is available. And typically as value investors, and in general, not just the value investors, we tend to say that when interest coverage ratios are below 15 or lower, I mean, what the company generates in terms of profits is being nearly eaten up by the payment of interests. And with that, I mean, the company cannot grow. The company does not have any capital that remains available to be able to expand what they do. So so it's an issue, it's an issue. And if you look at ever granted specifically, again, looking at the consolidated statement of income ending June 30th, 2020, 21, again, remember those are unaudited reports because it's not the annual reports. We see that EBIT or earnings before interest and tax divided by the interest expense. So it's at a 150. So the interest coverage ratio at 150 means that nearly the whole profit that is generated by F0 grand day is used to pay off and to make the payment of interests. So there's nothing nearly left in order to even pay out or reduce the amount of depth is just to cover the interests that are needed, which is pretty, pretty dramatic. Second ratio that is, investors would like to look into is your operating profit before interest. And they are indeed also VM. I mean, if you would add the operating profits and you would add it indeed, with a new divide it by the interest paid. You're going to see you're going to be iteration of one that 73. So again, there is not enough profits generated by the company to cover. Or it's really, really very shorts to pay out what is, in terms of interests needed and what the company has to pay out to the credit totals. So that's pretty problematic here. So again, we would clearly classify the interest coverage ratio as a fail. So that's assigned for us that we would not invest into that company. One of the conversation that is coming up with ever Grundy is indeed, if something happens to have a grand day, that the depth cannot be paid back to those external credit hellos and you have understood there are some onshore, So some Chinese creditors and some offshore, so some external. So it is interesting to understand is who is exposed to the bonds of our ground there. And there has been an interesting articles about this, about who are either the domestic credit holders or the international credit totals. And in fact, there are a lot of banks like the Agricultural Bank of China, the ICC, That's the Construction Bank of China. But also some international banks that have a certain amount of exposure to the ground and bronze, like BlackRock, UBS, HSBC. So, so yes, what happens if ever grounded goes bankrupt? Those banks will be sitting on bonds where they will not see the money coming in because other credit told us because apocrine is just, they do not have the possibility to pay back those, those banks. That's something that we will have to continue to observe what is happening in the upcoming weeks. As you have. What I said earlier is that it's not just now that there are some coupons that are due, but there are many payments that are due between now and the end of 2022 and also into 2023. If one of the interesting tests that I wanted to make as well is also to analyze the three red lines that were defined by the Chinese government in August 2020. So the first one, which looks at the ratio between liabilities and the assets excluding prepayments. And you remember that the first red line asked are requested by the Chinese government is to be below 70 percent. And when you do the math, you see that on the amount of liabilities. If you remove indeed the prepayments, you're at 88%. So clearly the liability to assets is too high compared to the first red line of the Chinese government's already here you have one of the three, which is a fail wherever brand they will already not be able to grow the depth by 15 percent, just by missing already the first red line. They will already only be able to grow the depth by 10 percent, of course, another condition that the other two red lines are not crossed. Let's look now at the second red line. So the second red line is the net, net debt to equity. And so the nap that actually you remove cash. So you, you, let's say subtract cash from the liabilities because cash is available directly, It's very, very liquid asset. But even with that is by reducing the liabilities with restricted cash and cash and cash equivalence and dividing it by the equity, you are again at above 300 percent. And remember that the second red line defined by the Chinese government was asking that the net adapt. So the difference between a debt to equity and net debt to equity is that in that depth, you remove cash to reduce the amount of liabilities. But even here, a grander is at 300 percent, so way beyond the 100% that the Chinese government is asking. So consequence of that already, two out of three are not matched. So the level of growth that ever grown it can have in that depth is already at 5% and maximum because you already do not match two of the three red line attributes defined by the Chinese government. So clearly, again here it's a fail. And if we look at the third red line defined by the Chinese governments, so that's the cash to short-term debt. So obviously looking at short-term debt, you need to look at the current liabilities and removing indeed everything that is long-term liabilities. But even here, you see that the amount of cash, and even if I would add the restricted cash, the amount of cash that is available to cover the short-term debt is definitely by far not above 100%. So the ratio again here, it's a fail. So what does this mean concretely, is that ever Grundy is not allowed further to growth, to grow its depth. So we are here at 0% that will be allowed by the Chinese government. What is the consequence of that? Well, we're going to discuss this, but first of all, I mean, it's not just about every Grundy we need to look also at how the other real estate developers, they match those three red line criteria. And there has been an interesting article that was on, I think that the website was bonds evaluate.com where there wasn't analysis that was done and other Grundy in fact, was not the only one that wasn't matching the three red lines defined by the Chinese government August 2020. But they were in fact three companies who have a Grundy Greenland and select China. While other ones. In fact, what happened? And this is something that's and you see it in the presence of a grantee has started to do the I mean, what are the options that they have? They will probably have to sell off some assets at a discounted price to be able to collect fresh money, fresh cash, or maybe they going to ask to their equity holders to do recapitalization, to bring in fresh cash. Certainly increase the amount of equity available, but they do not have too much choices. And obviously you can imagine that selling assets, what we call a fire sales under emergency conditions. Obviously, if you are on the pressure, you going to give a higher discount when you're setting up your assets like flats, like a car, when there is an urgency and you need the money tomorrow, you will be, I don't know, giving a discount of 50 percent, 40%, 30 percent, but for sure you will not sell it at a premium price. So that's really what ever ground has really to do now is to either recapitalize and find new money, not through depth. So they have to look at the equity holders. If the equity holder, so the shareholders can, and otherwise we'll have to sell off assets. And it's kind of going into a partial liquidation scenario. So we already see that's on the the test of having a low debt to equity, which are fundamental screens that has value investors will look into already have a Grundy is clearly not matching this. So above three. And also when you add the three red lines that the Chinese government has, August 2020, I mean, it's three times a fail as well. What's interesting also to analyze as a value investor. And again, if you look at my training, that is called the art of value investing in my level three tasks, I like also to look at not only internal metrics, but also external metrics. And one of the metrics when looking at depth specifically what it is all hear about. Other Grundy is looking at. External rating agencies, what do they say about our grounding? And you remember that when you're looking at the annual reports of a grand day, they were already listing like in a 10 K 10 Q report in the US, they were already listing that there were senior nodes, do 2022 and 2023, that we're carrying a very, very high coupon rate at 11, 12, and 13 percent, which are huge amounts, which shows that the depth is risky. And it is interesting to see. And from the rating agencies, I like to look at Moody's. I like to look at Fitch as well. What is interesting to see is how Moody's and Fitch Rating have a great day. And until, let's say the summer of 2021, Moody's was rating the adapts. So the corporate obligations of ever Grundy as a B1. But it's very, very rapidly. Just a couple of months downgraded the credit rating of a grand day from B1. It's quickly went to B2, then to CA1, and then to see a. So they actually have in downgrading massively since now a couple of months, the, let's say credit within us of our ground there. Same for Fitch Finch was carrying still in September 2020, have a grand day with a rating of b plus. And then they downgrade it to be minus in June, CCC plus in July, and then CC in September. And by end of September, they even further downgraded the rating to a C. And just as a reminder, when we look at, so typically as I said earlier in the rating agencies, we do have a Standard and Poor's, Moody's and Fitch. And Moody's and Fitch tend to give those fingers available, let's say just by registering to their websites. So before the crisis and all this news and press coverage starting with ever ground day, the depth of our grand day wasn't ready in the category of high credit risk being rated B1 on Moody's and Fitch. So we were already not in, let's say investment grade bonds. And now actually, if you remember that depth a of a ground day by Moody's have been downgraded or has been downgraded from B1 to a CA. And for Fitch from a B plus to a, see, the category actually is a near default with possibility of recovery. So I mean, a further downgrade is that the company has to go into liquidation and the company goes bankrupt. So you see that the risk, as they see it, is extremely high, that the company is very, very close to default. One thing and it's not the purpose of discussing it here. But what could be discussed is why, why suddenly in just a couple of months, let's say in 34 months, adapt that was rated as high, credit risks suddenly went down to near defaults. So that's something that we could discuss. Why the rating agencies only did this over the last three months, but at least what? They did it and I wanted to give it the proof that since June 2021 for Fitch and again, more or less the same time period for Moody's. They indeed have been downgrading the depth of Afghani. But again, remember, if you would have invested into our Grundy, you were already with corporate bonds that were considered as high credit, so we were not in the investment grade. So here again, as a value investor and we like to have investment grades, corporate bonds so that the external rating agencies consider that it's a serious company that will have enough money to pay back the extra credit TO loss. We want to have at least a kind of triple B rating up to an a double or even triple a. So clearly here I have a grantee is also failing. If we look at this from the reading glasses of a value investor, has been failing on this task as well. So one of the things that I always like to do, and because I always believed that value investors, they make kind of a mystery what they have in their portfolio. I always like to also to benchmark and to compare my portfolio, my investment portfolio, with the cases that we're analyzing. And in this case we are analyzing our grand day. And so if remember, if you have been looking at my training or going onto my website, 36 square capital, this is my family fund that is being run where I expose what are the positions when I sell and buy things. So currently I still holds publicist, which is me, I communications, Nestle, diamond or BAs after non-unique and Telefonica, Microsoft and Kellogg's. So I have, you see a couple of seven European companies and to US companies. And you can see from, I mean, if you look at it from an investment grade perspective, all those companies are at least triple B, so considered with an adequate payment capacity to a strong payment capacity. And the resident one company, which is Microsoft, which has a triple a. So they have the highest quality in terms of corporate obligations. And obviously looking at the debt to equity at cash to short-term debt at liability, to assess the interest coverage ratio the companies that I have invested into, they match a lot of those criteria. We want to have as value investment terms of having a low debt to equity ratio. So below three at the cash to short-term them is pretty high that the liability to asset is below 70 percent, that the interest coverage ratio is way above 15, so that the profits that the company generates only a very, very small part is used for paying back debts and interest payments. So and this is a reason why on my nine companies that I currently carried my portfolio in October 2021, all of them match those criteria because I do follow obviously my own rules as a value investor. So if you compare now those ratios and this, what we have been discussing in this session, obviously you can refreshing everybody's mind you that the debt to equity of our ground is a three dot 86. The cash, the short-term DHAP is very low. Liability to asset is way beyond 70 percent interest coverage ratio is very close to one. So nearly all the profits of the company are being used to pay back just the interest payments of the credit of the US. And you have seen, and you have heard through the looking at Moody's and Fitch at the external credit rating agencies have been downgrading strongly of the last three to four months. The rating of the bonds, the corporate obligations of African day. So with that, thank you for having listened in. You can find an in-depth and invest in training called the artifact investing on Skillshare and Udemy platforms. And don't forget to subscribe to my channel and make sure to use the subscribe button below. Thank you.