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1. Introduction: Hello, and welcome
to the course, handling critique feedback, and alternative interpretations
of your poetry. My name is Zachary Phillips. I am a poet, a writer, and author, and instructor. In these roles, I've helped
thousands of people move from a place of surviving
to passionately thriving, and one of those places is specifically to do
with their poetry. I'm going to be drawing
information from my two books, how to write evocative poetry and poetry from the Dark
Knight of the Soul, to help you to best process and handle putting
your poetry out. To be looking at this approach from multiple
different perspectives for the personal poet, the one that's write
for themselves, the relationship poet,
the one that writes for a one personal
for a certain point, and the professional poet,
the one that is looking to publish and earn a
living off their poetry. All of these three groups of people face
interconnected related, but also specific problems
in relation to feedback and interpretations
and all that stuff in relation to their work. I'm going to share
with you a couple of my poems that have taken off and received
positive praise, but also some harsh criticism. I'm going to share with
you that criticism, share those poetries
with you and also share with you my
reasoning as to why I chose to respond the way I
did and how I can get to the mental state of being
able to respond and continue to produce
poetry that cells, that resonates,
that moves people, and that is meaningful to write. With all of that said
without further ado, let's dive into the
first session and yeah. Let's get
2. Advice For 'Personal' Poets: I said in the introduction, there are three types of people, three types of poets that
we're going to be looking at. A lot of the advice is for
all of you for everyone, but there are some specific
nuances to each view. The first one going to look
at is the personal poet. This is the person who writes poetry for themselves,
as an active expression, as an act of healing, as an act of personal growth, as a form of journaling. Now, if you were in
this group and you've clicked on the course
and you're like, Well, how do I handle
critique feedback, alternative interpretations? My suggestion would be
why are you sharing it? If you are sharing your poetry, it's because you're
looking for some external validation for it. Now that moves you into the
relationship perspective. If you've written stuff as a personal perspective
and you're looking to publish it or put it out there, you're moving
to the professional. A lot of this will be for you. But if you are purely
a personal writer and just writing
for yourself and you're bothered by the feedback, ask yourself, why
am I sharing this? What do I get from sharing it? Is this an ego boost? Do I need some compliments,
some criticisms? Is it something in me
that I'm looking for? Or am I just sharing
it out of a win? Maybe you stop sharing.
That's an okay response. You don't have to share
anything you do with anyone. If you're writing for
yourself and you're finding that you're sharing it and
people start to critique it, you can't handle that,
stop sharing it. Now, that's one response. The second response is this, you may be writing
something for you as an expression of your
soul in this moment. Then you personally look back over it and you start judging your own work and you start finding flaws in
it. That's okay. You recognize the fact that you wrote that poem
as an expression of who and what you were
in that time and the person reading it is a
different version of you. It's a person that was came about because of
the writing of the poem. You didn't write the
poem for that person, you wrote the poem for
the person in the moment. Yeah, so don't judge yourself too harshly based on
your previous work. And that applies to all of us. Don't judge yourself harshly based on the previous
work that you've done. Every word that
you write improves your ability to
write the next word, so just keep writing. And that's a bit of general
advice for all of us. K that if you critique
one of my poems, I'm going to share some with
you throughout this course, but you could critique
it. That's fine. That was past me. The
moment it was written, I am a new person because of the fact that I wrote that
poem. Does that make sense?
3. Advice for 'Relational' Poets: Move ourself into the
relationship based poets. These are people
who are writing for a particular person or
a particular event. They're not just doing
it for themselves, but there's a reason
behind it and they're wanting to share
some of their work. They might be moving to the
professional stage or wanting to get their poetry out there to the masses
in some sense, or it might just be
that they're wanting to write the cliche love
poem for their partner. This is an interesting
space because if you've got a
particular person in mind and they're not
receiving it the way you want to receive
it, that can really cut. But this is an important
thing for you all, no matter where
you're at to realize is when you put your
poetry out there, when you put art out there, any creative
expression out there. That's an expression
of you in this moment, but you're putting
it out there as a gift to the world and
you're allowing people to observe it and
tweak it and change it and interpret it based
on their own perspectives. How you choose to
interpret a world, a word, a moment, an event, a feeling, will be different based on everything that you've
experienced in your life. The education you have, the upbringing you have,
the genetics you have, the religion you have, the race, the gender, the
age that you have, all of these things dictate
your unique world view. Think about the
language. I'm speaking in English right now and we have a very strong subject object way that we express ourselves. If your language doesn't have a very clear subject object, the way that you
express yourself in the poetry will be different. The very nature of the words and the language
that we choose to express ourselves will dictate some of the way that
things are interpreted. The reason saying all of this is to highlight to you that
all you do when you are putting poetry
or art out there is saying here is this
gift to the world. Here is the work that I'm doing, and you have to
just be aware that people will interpret
it differently based on their perspectives. Now, this isn't to
say that you don't want to do your best work
and you don't want to improve yourself and
write the best love poem, the best response to anger, the most applicable
words possible. That's more of a
craft perspective. I've got courses up on skill share where I
can talk to you about the nitty gritty of how
to choose the best words and the best flow
and the best rhymes and all of those things. Let's assume you've done that. You've put your best self out, and someone interpreted
it incorrectly. They gave you some criticism. The feedback was
this fell short, or they just didn't
respond in a way. What do you do?
You take a breath. And you realize that that's their response to
art, and it's okay. From a creative
technical perspective. We'll talk about how to handle
critiques and criticisms in the best way to
grow you as a writer. But from an ego perspective, you need to detach
yourself from your work. You created it and
you let it go into the universe and people choosing to accept
it and take it up. The reason this is important is because if you show the
poem to two people, they will have different
responses to it. Perfect is impossible, but
you might write something perfectly for one person. The second person has
different experiences, different upbringings,
differ everything. They will interpret
it differently. You can't hit perfect
on multiple people. Now, holding that in mind, if you wrote for a
particular person and they didn't appreciate it
the way that you wanted to. You take a pause, you
feel those feelings, you let them sit, you
acknowledge them. You put them aside and you
just have a conversation like, hey, How did what fell
short here, what changed? Also be aware as you're
having that conversation, as you're holding that space, know that you're going to be
hypocritical of yourself. The creative process draws out of you and it's like,
this is this thing, this moment, this is wonder, this glory, and you're feeling
this attachment to it. But the receiver may not be, and they might not
be in the mood or the zone or the mental
state to receive it. There are multiple
factors that are far beyond your control that dictate if someone is going to receive the work in the
same light that you do? Hold all of that and
then you can start to let go of some of
the hurt that comes.
4. Advice for 'Professional' Poets: The professional writer faces a slightly different challenge. If you're someone
like me and you put your poetry out
there and sell it, then you are particularly
the more you get into it. You reliant on sales. This course isn't a
course on how to sell. But if you're not
doing the promotion, the branding, the
marketing, the connection, the relationships,
the cover design, all of the other things that
are involved in selling, and you're looking
at feedback and the feedback I'm getting is
just subpar sub optimal. I'm not selling
people I'm engaging. If you're not doing all
of those other things, in addition to having
awesome words, then you're going to fall short. If you're not doing
all of that, you may be looking in
the wrong places. If you're judging yourself,
if you're judging your worth, if you're judging the
quality of the poem, if you're thinking you're
getting bad feedback because you aren't
getting those sales, it's not necessarily a
factor of the words. You might be the best poet ever, but you're just not able
to promote yourself. Does that make sense?
Consider that. The second thing I would
like you to consider is the concept of the
different parts of you. This is quite an
important concept, and I think that for all
writers are all creative, you need to split yourself
into three parts of you. Write you, editor,
and entrepreneur. The writer you writes, The
writer you gets into the zone, channels the use,
taps into creativity, whatever you call it,
whatever your process is, and just expresses. There's no regard
for the audience, there's no regard
for anything else. There's just this
creative expression. That person's job,
that part of you job is to just get
the words out. Yeah. Then at a later stage, the editor you comes around. This is almost like it's
a different person. This person didn't
write the words, but it's their job
to tweak to refine, to get it into a way
that is applicable to a more complete product. Now, if you're a personal
relationship writer, you may not engage these
other parts as much. You still probably should
edit your work a little bit. You might be split
between the two, but You definitely should do your editing separate to your writing, at
least starting out. Writer you writes,
edit to U edits. This person chops
off some words. This person looks at the flow. This person considers it
from a detached perspective. You might be able to edit your work the moment
you've written, you might be able
to edit it a week or you might need
a month later to really detach you from that piece. It's not
you that wrote it. It's a different
part of you, and that gives you the
ability to step back. Now, what this does, and particularly
when you add the entrepreneur you into it, is it gives you a
detached perspective. It's not you that
wrote the product, it's the process of you that wrote the poem.
Does that make sense? Once you've done that, and
this is for the professionals, the entree you comes along and markets the poem
and shares it and expresses it and does all of that business stuff to bring
it to market, so to speak. You need all of those things to even give the poem to the world. Yeah, and then the feedback comes in and people will
interpret it differently. I want to phrase this whole encapsulate
this whole problem because there will be
different parts of you or different reasons
that we're writing, the personal, the relationship, and the professional writer, and there was different parts
of you doing the writing, the writer you, the editing you, and the entrepreneur you. All of those parts
need to work together. And if you can work
together and not sort of associate too strongly with
the work once it's done, little bit of attachment,
little step back. When the feedback comes in, you won't take it as personally. So in the next video, we're
going to talk about a poem of mind and discuss the specific feedback
issues that it faced.
5. Handling Feedback & Criticism: To put this into
perspective, I'm going to share with
you now a poem of mine called Do you Love
me or just the idea of M. Then I will share
with you some of the feedback I've
gotten for that poem on the same day and
contrast the two to highlight the difference
between my understanding, my interpretation, my intent
versus the reader's intent. Does that make session? Now, you can click in
the show notes and grab yourself a PDF of
this to read along. But the poem goes as such. Do you love me or
just the idea of me? I may be your dream girl. But I am real and that reality is different
from your fantasy. How often must we fight, just to clarify that
you expected me to act differently, to
speak differently. How many tears must fall, just to realize
that you expected me to be something I'm not. If you love me, please
drop your expectations of me and open your
eyes to the real me. My body has blemishes. I will lose my temper.
I judge unfairly. I get things wrong.
I'm not perfect. No one is, unless of course,
they are just a dream. Now, you're free to interpret
that poem however you like. But I put it out there
and on the same day, different mediums of
responding to the poem, but I received these
feedbacks almost instantly. The feedback, the
first one was this. I feel like I've gained a
deeper understanding of the complexities of
love and relationships. The author's insights into the importance of being
honest with ourselves and our partners and the need
for genuine connection in our relationships are both valuable and thought provoking. This poem has given me a lot to think about and
inspired me to examine my own motivations and desires when
it comes to love. I would highly recommend
this poem to anyone who's seeking to build stronger and more authentic relationships. Boom, I feel great,
amazing, validated, right. Check across to a
different area, and this is the feedback I get. Sucks to be her then, Lol. Every woman is an
empress inside. Your subject is quite pitiful,
not a good look at all. There you have it. Same poem, same day, different people
responding differently. Your response to the
poem will be unique to you and I invite you
to share it, of course. But here's the butt.
I put that piece out. I wrote it as an expression, and we're going to talk
a little bit later about the alternative
interpretations of the poetry with a
different poem. But the point is,
I had an idea in my mind of what I was
trying to project. I was responding to an instance in my past where a partner of
mine said to me, Do you love me or
just the idea of me. I was expressing that and having the maturity in my mind to process and go through what
I couldn't at the time. It was the adult me
helping the teenage me process a little bit more and come to terms with the
reality of the situation. I was unfairly judging. I was doing all of those things. Now the reason I'm sharing
this with you isn't to go into the depth of my back
end reasoning of my poem, but to share with you
the feedback that I got. Now, I got more
than that feedback, but how do I handle this? How do I deal with the first praise and handle the critique
of the second praise? Well, thankfully, they
both came at once. So there's a bit of
balance, but there's a phrase that really I try to resonate with that I try to sit with whenever I put
my poetry out there, whether it either be professionally
or relationship wise. It goes like this.
You are not as good or as bad as
they say you are? You are not as good or as
bad as they say you are. This is an important
thing to hold on to. People can praise me to no ends, and if I agree with their
praise, what happens? Then I stop writing,
I stop going deep, I stop trying to push the envelope. Because
I'm there, I've made it. What happens to artists
and creatives and musicians and actors and all of these people
who just coast. Inevitably, they drop off. What happens to those that keep pushing the ver, keep trying. They keep growing, they
keep evolving and their art stays pure and resonant
and it expanding. That's what I want to be.
I don't want to accept the positive feedback
as the epitome. It's not me. It's
just that poem. In fact, it's just that person responding to that
poem in that moment. Similarly, with the
negative feedback. Yeah. Maybe my poem hit a nerve. Maybe that person had
been treated in the way that they received that poem and go, I've been
treated like that. Sucks to be that girl.
I used to be that girl, and you're a bad person
for writing like that. Maybe I can't dictate
who's going to read the work and I can't dictate how they're
going to respond to it. But I know that
they're responding to the work to the
poem, not to me. There's a distinction we're
trying to make from here. I am not that poem. I'm not that poem. I am the person who wrote that
poem in that moment. I'm not even that
person anymore. I am me now that has evolved
and changed and grown as a writer and a person
because of writing that poem. That
feedback that came in. We talked about it
in earlier video, that the person receiving
that feedback is edit to me is in a
sense entrepreneur me, and they'll both
respond differently. It is not right to me.
We just ignores that. R of me just keeps going and doesn't
listen to the feedback. This is a trained skill. I didn't have it always and when I first put
myself out there, any little negative
feedback would crush me. But there's a little
bit of an anecdote. Studies have shown that
if you are, for example, to be given $100 or find $100 on the ground,
that'll move the needle. You'll feel great for
a little bit of time. But if you lose $100
or someone takes $100 from you, that
will move the needle. Ten to 100 times to
1,000 times more. It will significantly
impact you and statistically significantly
everyone, f f. Same dollar amount
going up or down, but we handle loss AKA
critique, far worse. That's an objective fact, but if we apply it to our
writing, we know that, I need to up the feelings
when someone says something good and dampen the feelings a little bit when someone
says something bad. I want to be in
that middle road. We come back to that statement. I'm not as good or as
bad as people say.
6. Your Art As A Mirror: I really want to
just drill down on the idea that art is a mirror. You are creating something that shows people an
aspect of themselves. The goal of good art is to move people to make
them feel something. You're saying, Hey, think of this thing and it
changes their mood. Now we want to
change their mood in every way but towards bortom. If you write a
thriller as an author, you want to freak them out, scare them, make them intrigue. If you write a romance, you want to trigger those feelings. No matter what of
creation you are doing, you want to move the
reader towards something that changes them towards or towards
feeling,wards passion, towards fear, towards
hatred towards love. That's the whole point. The
reason I'm saying this is, if you in your work inspire someone to write
a negative comment, AKA, you've got a hada, you've inspired them in
a way to Well, engage. Now, it might be engagement
in the way you want, but you've made them care. Now this is a strategy
that people use as a promotional strategy
to write on topics, write about topics, right in a way that causes controversy. You're putting people
into two camps, you love it or you hate it. This isn't pure creativity, but maybe the entrepreneur
part of you goes, Okay, if I stoke a little
bit of controversy, if I attack, if I address, if I handle some certain themes, that's going to cause people to respond in a way
that is passionate. That actually helps
you. It helps you whether they care
positively or care negatively enough to
comment enough to engage enough to offer that
feedback because they care. The worst kind of feedback, the worst interaction you
can get is a lack of. I boredom, is disengagement,
is clicking away. Yeah. That's even true if you are a relationship based poet. You're writing for a wedding, you're writing for a partner, you're writing for
a particular event, you want to make sure that people care and
sit and resonate. You want to engage them. You add some humor, add some
personality, add some depth. Yeah. If you're writing
particularly to sell, particularly to make some
money to engage in that sense, you want to hit the
emotionality of someone. You want to plant the seed in their soul that goes far out, I care about this
positively or negatively. Going down that
partisan approach, it's like, I care so much,
I need to share this. Oh my God, I care so
much. This needs to be. People need to know how insert how bad this person is
for having these beliefs. But From my perspective
as the poet, I just want the reaction.
I want to move you. If in that previous poem or the next one that I'm
going to share with you, it makes you feel something, I win. That is the goal. The goal isn't to make
you feel a certain way. It isn't to push you
down a certain path. It isn't to make
you feel something specifically or to make a point. It's to move you as a reader. Now, we'll get into
alternate interpretations of your work with
this next part.
7. Poem Example 'Burn These Pages': Next poem we're
going to look at is called Burn these pages. In a moment, I'm going
to play a video for you that will engage you
and show you that poem. But once again, you
can click the PDF and read along if
you like as well. Enjoy the poem, and
then we'll talk about the different
interpretations of the poem. Brevity may be the soul of wit, but destruction is
the soul of poetry. Observe. In your hands, you hold Nature's Majesty reduced to mere
sheets of dead wood, marked by the transient thoughts of one blind to the moment, hoping to inspire a fraction of the awe that its
life once gave. Burn these pages and
feel the flames as they touch your soul deeper than any collection of
words ever could.
8. Addressing Alternative Interpretations: Okay, so this pom, burn these pages and this video. The feedback that I got from this poem was
all around positive. The direction of
the feedback was, wow, amazing job,
insightful, this stuff. Thank you so much, but I'm not as good as
people say they are. But the point of sharing this
poem with you is to talk about alternative
interpretations of the poem. Having read or watched
that poem, now, you can start to see or have an idea of what I was going for. I ask you, what do you
think I'm driving at? What was my author's intent? What was the message that I
was trying to project to you? Now you're free to
interpret however you like. But I'll tell you what I was thinking versus what
people came at me with. What I was thinking
and what some people responded to me in that poem was this idea of the poet trying to do what nature
can do effortlessly. If you just spend a mindful
moment observing nature, you will feel an awe and
a wonder and a joy and an elation that goes beyond any words that one
person could write. It seems like I
wanted to highlight the irony of the fact
that we chop that down, put it on the page
to just try and make a minute perspective of the thing that a chop
down could create. I was hoping for a
bit of an irony, a bit of spiritualism, a bit of that ethereal
pointing to the moon feelings.'s going to
this sage like quality. I'm going to put it into a
work that is in that mode. That's the goal
that the editor and entrepreneur is
looking towards using that piece for. But what
feedback did I get? Well, the feedback I
got was interesting. Once again, it was all
positive, so that's great. But they didn't get it. So people didn't get it. The main way they didn't get
it was that it seemed like I was speaking as a
environmentalist, that this piece was a
protest and it was like, Yeah, we do burn
down the forests. You're right, trees
make us breathe thing, and there's too much
pollution and going to this global warming
da da da data. That's the feedback
that came back. In my mind, I put something out there that I was hoping to evoke a certain level of thought and I got a
different level of thought. What do I do about
that? Because that's not the only time that happened. I've released thousands of
poems and the feedback that I get when it does come back is wildly varied from
what I was going for, and rarely does the
emotionality, the feeling, the idea, the point
that I'm trying to make return back to me. Two things. Two things. Number one, I realize
as a consumer of art, my feelings are mine. And I'm like, that's
the author's intent. No, it's not. I can never
know the author's intent, just like you can never
know my author's intent. Just like in a sense, I can never really
know my own intent. I tried to explain
to you the reasons, my back end reasonings
of that poem to you, and it makes sense in my mind, but trying to
articulate it to you. It's still not even fully clear. There was a feeling
that I guess if I have meditated on it
for hours for days, for whatever, I could come to the term and explain it to you. This is the point of that poem. But I haven't done that. It was an expression of the moment
of a collation of things. People observe this collation, observe the poem, and they
interpret it their own way. What do I sit with,
what do I do? Well, I can do a
couple of things. I could choose respond
to them and say, Hey, thank you, but
this is the point. I choose not to do
that because I don't want to take away
your experience. If I have a mind blowing
awakening, opening, resonant experience with a poem, and I respond to the author and the author responds
back to me being like, actually, this is
what it's about. Not only does it reduce, diminish or eliminate
that feeling. I now have some issues with the artist because the artist is telling me how I should feel. Sorry, buddy, you put
your poems out there, then you're letting
people take what they want to take from or not even what they
want to take from. People will take whatever
it comes, whatever arises. I put that poem out
there burn these pages, and some people took it as
an environmentalist message. Yeah, cool. Some people look at the poems that I put out
their different poems and go completely 100%
diametrically opposed to the point that I
was putting out there. You can see this with
mainstream media. People can look at the
same product and have wildly different
understandings of it. That's the point of art. As the author, as the
artist as the poet, your job isn't to dictate
down those paths. It isn't to say, Hey, this is
the point, not that point. Because the moment
you start doing that, you're lowering your art to a lower level and
it's derivative. It's saying, Hey,
this is the point. You can feel it when
an artist does that. You can feel it when people are no longer writing up here, they're writing
down here and say, I've got an agenda to project. Now if that's what
you want to do, if you want to
project an agenda, and people aren't getting that projected agenda
appropriately, you're either not marketing the book right to
the right people, or you're not doing
a good enough job. Either way, there's
more resources available that you can
learn those two taps.
9. When & How To Receive Feedback: We need to talk now about how to actually receive feedback. When should you take
the opinions of people? When should you listen?
I'm of the belief that you shouldn't really
listen to the feedback and take it on as
advice to do something. Haphazardly, you shouldn't take on unsolicited advice as gospel. You should barely give
it a grain of salt. If I share with you my poem and you don't like it
and you tell me as such, and you tell me I should
change it tweak it, do something different or that's not even a poem,
that's just whatever. If you're giving me
negative feedback or things to even help me, even if it's with good intent, if I didn't ask you
for that feedback, if I didn't engage you with it, if I didn't say, Hey, like, can you help me with this, I'm just
going to ignore it. I'm going to ignore
it because I'm not in the space to receive
the feedback from you. If I've had a bad day and you critique me and
I take that on, I'm now going to think a
lot worse about myself. That can lead to
downstream consequences to my writing into my life.
It's just not engaging. It's not a good
practice. What's more? This is maybe even more important? I don't
know who you are. AK, I don't know who the
random commenters are. With the first poem
that I shared with you, those two people that commented, I have no idea who
those people are. They are strangers to me. Are they good writers?
Are they bad writers? Do they have any skill at all? Do they have my good intentions at heart or my bad
intentions at? I don't know. I
didn't engage them. I didn't ask for the feedback. Obviously, you put it out
there and people will comment, and you can engage
with those comments as a form of promotion. That's a separate task. But in terms of taking it as a feedback in terms of making it change your process or your
product, your palms. Let's just put it aside. I'll suggest you ignore that. Do your best to ignore it? Un less little caveat. You're getting the
same feedback over and over and over and
over and over again. If you're always getting told
that something's going on, then you might want to
consider might and consider, not definitely and yes, change. Ultimately, you are the artist, and if you've got a style that
you know works for you or that he's expressing a truth
or just is what's flying, then that is the sacrament. That is the thing
that you've got to defend and just
put out there. A lot of art, a lot of
creativity, a lot of books, a lot of all of this
stuff feels like a little sapping plants and
it grows and it's delicate. Until it grows into
a big tree and can weather the storm of
critique and criticism. You've got to defend that
thing. You got to build a walled garden around
it until it can thrive on its own accord,
so protect itself. But who do you take
feedback from? Well, I suggest that you find a person or a group
of people community. That you trust. You need to trust this person
for two things. Number one, if you want
legitimate feedback, they're going to
say harsh stuff. They could hurt. You need to be open to that person saying stuff that you
don't want to hear. I've got a couple of
people in my life and different projects change
depending on the person. I've got one person
that I mainly use, and then I've got a
few other people for the different of projects
because they've got very specific interests or resonates with them, the
stuff that I'm doing. I basically pick these
people purposely. What I do once I
pick these people purposely, I'm like, Hey, can you give me
criticism, feedback, editing, whatever it is, I ask them for the specific thing. Here's a poem. Tell me about it. Now, that burn
your pages poetry. I shared that with
one of these people. They came back to
me and saying, Hey, how you're saying the
words in that poem. Sounds a little bit pretentious. It sounds like you're trying
too hard. Good to know. Good to know that that's how
it's coming across to you. Noted. I've noted
that down and in future works where I
present my poetry thus, I will tweak and change. Maybe. It's still my choice. But I trust that person for
the feedback. I received it. I felt like, that does
hurt a little bit. I was trying. I put
myself out there. The performance of the poetry is another way that poetry
expresses itself. It is still poetry. But other people will say,
I think you're trying too hard or that you're
not making sense here. I remember giving a
completed book to someone and they read
through the poems like this is all great except
for these three poems. I have no idea what
you're talking about. This doesn't land at all.
In fact, it's confusing. You've lost me. Cool.
Let's talk about it. Let's look into it, why.
They gave me that feedback, but I asked specifically for it. The final thing on this is when you're approaching someone, You need to ask them either to critique you or compliment, critique or compliment, because you can't easily have both. If you come to me for
advice and say, Hey, can you critique this, I will give you the
critical feedback. Can you critique this in a way
to make it viable to sell? Sure. One advice. Can you critique this to make it
the most evocative poem? S, another feedback. Can you critique this
in a way to make it as minimalistic as possible? Cool. These are the
different things, or alternatively, can you
compliment me on this poem? Great. You did a great
job on the poem. Do you see what I'm
saying here and I'll tell you why it was good? You've got to work out
of feedback you want. Ask for that feedback, be able to receive it and be able to ignore
the rest. Yeah.
10. Battling The Bruised Ego Blues: All of this advice aside, there is still going
to be an ego cut. No matter how much you block
off the outside world, no matter ho much you say, I'm not going to listen
to these comments, no matter how much
you do any of that. There is still going to
be an ego cut that hurts. That's part of it.
How do you get good? You will develop a thick skin. Yeah. No matter what you do, there are still going
to be times where you read a comment where
someone says something, just trying to help and
it gets under the skin. You didn't have
your defenses up, you didn't ask for it
and it just comes. Or someone will
say and say, Hey, that poem you did
on this topic and they completely don't get it. Okay. You accept it. You take a breath and
it makes you stronger. It's like muscles when you're doing exercise,
your muscles are growing. That's the pain of growth. It will happen, it will come. You just take that
breath, you accept it, and you move on and you
write the next work. The only thing that can stop you is yourself if
you stop writing. If you let the feedback get, then projects can die. I was writing a book and
I was 25,000 words in, and I made a very big mistake of sharing it far too early. I shared it far too early, some feedback came in, and
that just crushed the project. It's been five years. I've
not looked at it since. Now I've learned. Okay. Let's make sure we
allow that seed to grow before we share
it with the world. Now I am going to
come back to that, but it will be harder
to get back into the mode. That's more
fiction writing. But the same thing
with the poems, if you are not in a place to get the feedback, projects may die. Poems may never be written,
never be released. You take that L and know that, you're judging yourself
based on the body of work. It's not just this one poem, it's overall poetry
that you're writing. If you're the professional
poet, it's just one. It's just one poem.
It's just one line. It's just one book,
one collection. Take it, take a breath, learn about yourself and
your own process and your own response to that
feedback and move on. Yeah.
11. Class Project: So project time. What we're going to do in the
project is this. You're going to share a poem
that you've written or that this course has inspired
you to write or a part of a poem.
Give me something. Share a poem and ask, can you please critique
or compliment this work? Critique or compliment. You write the poem, and you
say, critique this poem. Or compliment this poem. I will come along and
critique or compliment. What this is doing
is two things. One, you are getting used
to sharing your work, and you are asking
for the feedback you want, and I will
give it to you. If you want me to
critique it, ask me how. Give me specific
instructions on how you want that poem critique. If you want compliments,
tell me why or which way you want to be complimented
on that and I will do it. Then there's one more thing
and this is optional, but I really do
encourage you to do it is go along and look at the other projects that
have been submitted and offer them the same advice. If they asked for
critique, critique them. If they ask for compliments,
compliment them. Do so with respect, do so with good bedside matter for
lack of better expression. When you're receiving
this feedback, know that it is
given in goodwill. We're not trying
to demean anyone. We're not trying
to judge, we are trying to help each
other improve. We're helping each other
improve by asking for the feedback in terms of a
compliment or a critique, and we are helping
each other by giving it in good faith and
receiving it in good faith. It is a bit of a
practice. Please do that. Post the poem and ask for
the feedback in terms of criticism and compliment,
which one you want. You can't have both
unfortunately. Then if you can, go into the classroom and look at the projects
and ask people to say, Hey, tell people give
them the feedback, the criticism, or the
compliment thereafter.
12. Recap & Review: Well quick recap and
review of the course. Just be aware people will respond to your work if you
choose to share it with them. If you choose to
keep it to yourself, great, write for yourself. But the moment you
start sharing, people will respond and
they will respond in a variety of different
ways with their words, with their facial expressions, or if you're trying to sell
your work with their dollars. They will respond
in a certain way. People will offer
criticisms and feedbacks and compliments and advice
and all of these things. It's up to you to develop
the thick skin to both choose when to take and
choose when to ignore it. I like to hold to the idea of I am not as good or as
bad as people say I am. I'm not as good as bad
as people say I am, knowing that people
will compliment, people will critique,
but my art, my poetry, is an expression
of the moment and I'm giving it to the world and they're choosing
to receive it, how they receive it. That
is where they're going. The main bits of
advice that I have touched upon from this book
are covered in my book. How to write evocative poetry. It is a guide book that goes in depth on all of this stuff, and my recent collection
is poetry from a Duck n of the soul where I share and express the
poems that are coming. Once again, I invite you to
check those out and grab a copy and critique.
Tell me how I am going. I want to remind you
that the poems that we looked at in this course are available as a PDF
if you want to grab a copy and have a look
through and re read those. I also want to invite
you to do the project. The project being
you share a poem, you asked for feedback
in the form of praise or rather a
compliment or a critique. Yeah. You're going to ask
for a compliment critique. I will offer that to you and you can offer it
to the other people doing their projects in the classroom as well.
We're going to receive it. We're going to learn
to ask for it, we're going to
learn to receive it in the way that it's
meant to be received, and we're going to
ignore everything else. One thing I want to suggest is that if you've like this course, somewhere will be the option
to rate and review it. Please do rate review. Let me know getting better here. This is me asking for feedback. I'm saying, Hey, how
did I do in this video? Tell me. Tell me
what I did well, tell me how I could improve, tell me what questions you want to answer and I will do it. Does that make sense?
That is the opportunity for you to give
me that feedback, and it really does help. Either way, I've got a bunch more courses on poetry and writing
and expression, both available now
and coming soon. If you'd like this,
follow along, check out the other
stuff I've got going up on Skillshare. Yeah, let's write some amazing
poetry together. Gotcha.