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How to Easily Start a Podcast for Free and Today — Hosting, Equipment, and Editing!

teacher avatar Chris Spiegl, Creator & Consultant & Multipotentialite

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Lessons in This Class

    • 1.

      Finally Start Your Podcast

      3:50

    • 2.

      The Essential Parts of a Podcast

      4:28

    • 3.

      Prepare the First Recording Session

      8:51

    • 4.

      Recording Equipment

      8:22

    • 5.

      Recording Apps and Programs

      3:45

    • 6.

      Bit Rate and Sample Rate

      2:19

    • 7.

      Remote Interview or Conversation Podcasts

      5:34

    • 8.

      Recording on your Phone

      5:44

    • 9.

      Recording in Garageband

      11:30

    • 10.

      Recording in Audacity

      10:53

    • 11.

      Recording the First Episode

      6:46

    • 12.

      Edit and Export with Garageband

      27:25

    • 13.

      Edit and Export with Audacity

      12:50

    • 14.

      Meta Data and Chapter Markers

      11:33

    • 15.

      Creating a Podcast Cover Artwork

      5:24

    • 16.

      Free Podcast Hosting

      2:35

    • 17.

      Setting up RedCircle for your Podcast

      10:19

    • 18.

      Tell People About it

      1:49

    • 19.

      BONUS: The Sound of Different Microphones

      6:12

    • 20.

      Final Thoughts

      1:25

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About This Class

You would like to launch a podcast but don’t want to spend any money? Then this class is perfect for you!

You will learn what goes into making a podcast, start by building a first concept of what your show will be about and draft the first episode.

You will also learn about different types of microphones, applications to record and edit your podcast, then how to prepare your environment and some microphone technique, and lastly of course, you’ll also learn how to create a cover photo select a FREE hosting provider and upload your very first podcast episode.

Please share your progress and your first episode in the class project so that we can collaborate there and so you can get feedback from other students and myself.

I hope you enjoy this class and get your podcast up and running as soon as possible,

Chris Spiegl — ChrisSpiegl.com | YouTube | Instagram

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Additional Classes

On my Skillshare Profile, you can find more classes around the topic of Podcasting as well as Productivity with Alfred.

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Chris Spiegl

Creator & Consultant & Multipotentialite

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I'm a developer turned mindful consultant & content creator.

Creating was always my passion. In the beginning, I focused on coding, which was around 2003. Later I added photography. Now it's a colorful mix of photos, videos, code, writing, and podcasting. Most of which I taught myself through years of trial and error, learning from tutorials online, and building my own projects. Sometimes I wasn't really clear on what I wanted to really do with this palette of skills, though I believe being a multipotentialite is one of the greatest powers in today's day and age.

Now with years more of experience I finally found the platform that can bring more to life than I ever expected. Skillshare. A platform that empower... See full profile

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1. Finally Start Your Podcast: Hello and welcome to this class on how to start a podcast for free from scratch. And today, I'm sure you have noticed that the industry of podcasting is a booming one. There's more and more shows out there and new ones are added every single day. You might even want to start one yourself. I'm guessing that's the case since you are watching this class. Now, there are all kinds of different struggles attached to creating a podcast. You have to find a way to record the show, structure, it, publish it, and in-between all of that, you also have to edit that show and so on. Now that can be a quite monumental task if your goal is to pretty much start from scratch perfectly, and it can also be a pretty intensive investment. However, in this class we are going to be focusing on mostly how you can actually get started today with the things that you already own. Because I am sure you probably are able to record a podcast with already existing devices. And that is going to be part of my focus. And I'm also going to mention investments and opportunities to improve your podcast here and there with a relatively minimal investment, like for example, getting a microphone that you then can use with a computer together and stuff like that hover. Those are mostly the sidelines objects and they're not going to be the main topic of this class. I'm also going to focus on programs you can use to edit your class, which are completely for free and available for everybody. And the same thing goes for hosting because there are nowadays incredible options out there which are available for free. So you can actually host your podcasts, like you would upload a YouTube video, for example, which does not cost anything to get started. This has not always been the case and that is why I think it is an incredible opportunity to start podcasting now, because you have all of these tools available of the programs, the microphones, or the equipment that you might already have. And of course, the ability to host your podcasts completely for free, which has not necessarily been something that is very normal in this industry. But now why am I teaching this class? Basically, I've been producing podcasts for other people for the last few years. And I also started my own interview show. I've edited hundreds of episodes and all of those combined have gathered millions of downloads. And now I thought I would share this knowledge here on this platform so that you can learn all of that too. Now, I want to stress that this is a getting started guide. This is not necessarily going to go into advanced topics. I will have classes on those specifically on my profile, so you can check those out individually there. I'm mostly going to focus on solo podcasts, meaning you have just your own voice or you have one microphone which you can hand back and forth between two people. For example, if you want to do some kind of an interview for more advanced setups, you can check out my profile. I might have a class on that already there. Now one last thing I want to stress before we jump into the first lesson is that I'm going to try to stress the importance of actually shipping your show and getting it out there publishing your first episode. Because remembering the saying of done is better than perfect. I think that you have to get started. You have to start getting your show out there so that you can actually learn and do that on the job. Essentially, you can improve over a long period of time. Your microphone quality or edit are not going to make or break your show. Especially not if you don't have millions of followers on other platforms, then it may be a good investment to actually have professional help. On the side, this class is for you, the person that wants to just get started with the stuff that you already have with free tools. And then on the journey you can always improve from there. Now, I hope that is exciting for you and I'm looking forward to seeing you on the inside. 2. The Essential Parts of a Podcast: Awesome. Now that you're here, Let's talk about the first essential things of a podcast and what you might want to prepare to actually get you started. The first thing that comes to mind is a rough concept of what your plan is and what you want to be creating. So essentially knowing like what should be the title of the show and what do you want to be talking about? This is especially helpful to colleague know how you want to approach all of the different text elements that you would like to have attached to your podcast in terms of description, title, maybe even text on some kind of a website or similar things. This is also a good place where you can kind of mold what kind of niche your podcasts should go into so that people can know what is this show about, so that they can decide whether or not they want to actually listen to this show. Now the rough concept is one of the first things that you might want to consider creating around this topic. However, it is also not necessarily something that I would say needs to be perfect from the start. Because once more, you can already get started with a show just by doing whatever feels good. What you would like to share. Essentially creating something like a rough draft of a podcast. Because in the end, you can always take episodes offline or even start a completely new podcast from scratch and just do that whole thing over again with an improved layout, design, text and all of those things. Now the next thing that I would consider is a cover photo. This is a cover photo that essentially is like a album cover for your podcast, a one-by-one square image, which is basically the recognition factor for your show in the different podcast directories, as well as on the website for your podcasts and inside of the podcast player apps. You can also have individual episode cover photos. However, that's a ton of extra work and not necessarily something that I would focus on at the beginning. And from that it's pretty clear we need a way to record your voice. So some type of a microphone, a phone, maybe a computer or stuff like that is already good enough. And I will be talking about recording and different equipment that you can use for that. And of course, recording equipment that you probably already have in the upcoming videos. From that point on, we need to edit your files that you have recorded. And again, that will be covered in its own section. Now in terms of recording, podcasts are really relatively simple because they are audio only, which makes it so that you need not as much equipment as, for example, someone who wants to record video as well. And that makes it really easy to get started. It also has the benefit that you don't really have to care about how you'll look while you're recording. You could theoretically do that in bed or something. Let us just very, very comfortable for you, but not necessarily comfortable for you to show in public. However, I personally like when, for example, I do interview shows and stuff like that too, also film the interview because then at least I have that material ready to go as well. It's already enough to just have a simple phone on a little bit of a tripod, film, the whole thing from one perspective, but at least you have that perspective ready to go if you want to also launch a YouTube channel for your podcasts, for example, I personally would always do that because these types of situations might not repeat themselves. So for example, if the person is not available at all times or it's a very special occasion for you to have someone available, then it is a really good idea to include video, even if you're not planning on publishing it at that specific moment. But again, if you don't want to stress about that, then don't just leave it out there and focus on the audio completely. And that's pretty much all that you need to get started with podcasting, a couple of texts, lines, a graphic, but of equipment for audio recording, and you're ready to go. In the next few lessons, we're going to go more into detail with these different aspects in terms of preparation for the first episode, recording the first episode, and looking into different types of equipment that you might already have available, but also possible upgrades if you choose to go that route. And of course, the editing, publishing, and then how you can get it into iTunes and those places. So let's jump in and focus on the first steps, which are the preparations of that first episode so that we can get you going immediately and get your episode out the door as quickly as possible. 3. Prepare the First Recording Session: Now let's talk about what the content of your podcasts will be and especially what the first episode can look like. Now, first up, the question that you can ask yourself is, what could this podcast be about? Notice how I have a highlight on the word could, instead of having it say should or something like that. This is the possibility and that is pretty much the open-ended question that you have in front of yourself to ask yourself, what could this podcast be about? Because essentially, you can always rebrand. You can always change things, changed the cover photo, change the title even, or change the content and concept of the whole show. To mention that you can even also launch another podcast next to the one that you already have. Specifically since podcasts nowaday can be posted and scheduled and hosted for free as well. So that's why I am focusing on the, what could this podcast be about? Now it makes total sense to start with a bit of a bullet point list right here. You can, for example, build a bit of a list around the niches that are interesting to you. What are you specifically wanting to focus on with this specific podcasts? And much, much more. Of course, this is a pretty much a open-ended exercise. So take about ten minutes, maybe, something like that to jot down what your thoughts are around this topic. But there are more questions that are interesting to ask yourself. For example, who is this podcast actually for? Now, this is a especially interesting question because it is all about the whole topic of target audience. For example, what is the age of your audience or the interests that they have aside from the topic that they were specifically targeting. Now, this can be interesting to kind of take at least half a bit of an understanding of what are you going to build your podcasts around? What is the main subject matter, but also what are the other interests of your listeners that you could potentially branch out into? So you're essentially creating a character that specifically when you're doing solo episodes, for example, you are specifically talking toward. So that could be a situation where you have a solo episode and you have a subject matter and you're kind of explaining it to a friend, so that makes it much more easy for yourself to come back? No. Okay, this is the tonal voice I would use in that scenario. Now the same thing also is interesting and important if you are, for example, doing interviews, because there you have the same thought in the back of your head. Are you having a conversation with the person that you are actually talking with? Or do you actually talk to an audience together with the person? Now that's also a whole topic in itself. And I might have a class on that specific topic and interview techniques and styles in the future. But for now, let's jump over to the last point that I have here. And that is, what are you going to have as a show format. So essentially asking, is this a solo show? Is that a interview show or do you have different audio segments that you are stitching together and maybe giving commentary on top of that. That could also be a very interesting concept. Now, here it is, ofcourse course relatively easy and you probably already know if you're doing an interview podcast or you do a solo show, but it's a good question to ask yourself, what is the main focus of the podcasts in general? Or also keeping yourself the open door. So you can try around two and test out if you want to do podcasts, interviews and maybe you are alternating between podcasts, interviews and solo episodes where you're more talking about your journey or something like that. So those are interesting questions to ask around this topic as well. To collect, develop the meat and bone around. What is your podcasts going to be about? Now once you have spent a bit of time on the development of your podcast and have a bit of an idea. Now let's jump into the development of your podcast episode and the first one at that. And here it is very important that I think that it's not necessarily something where you want to spend too much time on the podcast creation process. But just jump into the first episode. Because as I've mentioned hundreds of times before already, this is more important to get this episode out there then to actually have it all perfectly figured out. But as a bit of a kind of structure to go into this first episode, I have a bit of a list right here, and I think that can be a interesting starting point. We are starting out with a intro and that is of course in pretty much any podcast episode, you always have some kind of an intro segment. Now with the intro, it can be really interesting to actually record that after the fact, after you've made the main part happened because then you already know what you talked about. And then you also can teaser that right at the beginning. But essentially a intro segment should have some kind of a welcome to the listener. A, Who are you, especially in the first episode that we are talking about here. Then of course also what this podcasts should be about or is going to be about, and also what this specific episode is about. Now then lastly in the intro, I would include some type of an overview of the content of this first episode. And if you did the recording of the main episode before doing the intro, then it's a great idea to give an overview and a teaser as to what is coming in this episode and kinda what the order is of things. So that's kinda like the structure I would take for an intro. Notice that there's no jingle or whatsoever, because again, we want to get this episode out the door. We don't want to over perfection lies it in any kind of way. So starting out by simply doing something like hello and welcome to my podcast episode. This is a completely new podcasts that I'm creating from scratch. I'm usually a YouTuber working on dadadadada and, and so on and so on. So basically just giving a very warm welcome and giving a quick overview of what is this going to be about. So the person understands right at the beginning, what is this? Why am I listening to this? And do I actually want to keep listening to this further? Then of course we have the main act. And here it can go all kinds of ways, of course, because you are going to create a unique podcast and I don't know what you are going to do there. Now of course, it can be interesting time kinda give a bit of an introduction of you in this first episode. Kinda like an understanding of why you are creating character motivation behind it. And also a kinda get an idea of what are the future ideas for this podcast? And what is the meat and bones? What's the content that you are going to be sharing here? Is that knowledge? Is it stories or do you have interviewed partners lined up? All of those things can be shared in this specific intro episode here. And with that, we are already going over to the outro. And there we have a couple of very important things going on. One thing that is very common with podcasters as well as YouTubers and the likes is to thank the listeners being here and sticking around for the show. Then of course, also giving the people a contact option so that they can find your website, your social profiles. And if you have a guest, it's good idea to actually mention those things in the beginning of the show so that they have the information right from the start. And now at the end you can give them those things. Again. Of course, you can also mention something that your links are going to be in the description of the podcast so people can actually touch those or link them or click on them. And lastly, I would kind of give a teaser for the next episode. So what is coming after this? When is the publishing date going to be for the next episode? And also, do you have a content t's that you can already include here as to what you're going to be talking about in that follow-up episode. Now you may not know when you're going to have the time to make another episode or what is going to be in the content there. So maybe just a general TCE as to what's coming in the podcast in general, it could be interesting or just sending people off and saying, I hope to see you or hear you and speak to you in the next episode. So that's basically my concept idea for this very first episode. And I would not expect this episode to be much longer than, let's say, 10, 15 minutes because it is just a very short intro episode to get you started to get you out there. And with that, we have the first part of the class project. And that would be to create this kind of an outline for your first episode and then share that in the comments section or the class project section. Now this is really interesting because a, it gets you going and publishing because done is better than perfect and published it even better than that. And of course, it also opens up the opportunity to get feedback and give feedback on other people's outline. And I'm also going to try to take a look and give feedback where I can. So one last time, take this outline, make it your own, and of course, share it in the class project section. 4. Recording Equipment: Now with a recording of a podcast, we at some point have to talk about equipment that you can use to actually record your podcast. And this is an area where it can easily obsess about getting the biggest and best set up. However, this is a class dedicated to this setup that costs nothing. And the main reason why I think that this is actually a possibility is because we constantly are using basically voice podcasts in our daily lives called phone calls. And that is one of the reasons why I think that you can actually start a podcast just by simply using your phone. This has a microphone built in, just like your computer also has a built-in microphone. And specifically MacBooks are actually pretty popular in that area in terms of having really great built in microphones. The same thing goes for iPhones or similar phones on the market. Because have you ever hung up on someone because they're sound was terrible. Well, if you haven't, then it's a good chance that you could also just use whatever Mike you already have in the palm of your hand with whatever phone you have or with whatever computer you have and started recording that way. Phones are a really cool choice here because they actually also don't have any fans. So that means can contrast to using a computer, for example, you can record here without any fan noise. So this is one of the easiest ways, and probably in quotes, freeways because you probably already have a microphone. Of course, if you have to purchase a phone to have it as a microphone, that might not be free after all. But essentially, if you have a phone, you have a microphone. And with that, you also have the opportunity to use free apps that are available on iPhone, for example. And I'm not sure about Android because I don't use that platform, But I'm sure also some kind of voice recorder apps out there that you can use for free. Now if you don't just want to use a computer and a phone, there are of course also upgrade options from there. And some of those you might actually also already have available to you. For example, one of those upgrades that I am considering here is you can also use a standard headset as they come, or at least came with the iPhones at some point. This here is one that has a lightning adapter or lightning port on it. It has the headset, Of course, and then it has the mic part right here. Now one thing that I find important here to mention is that these headsets are actually not made to be held close to your mouth. So you should not record a podcast holding it like this to your mouth because this actually would then destruct or not have as great a quality as if, for example, you would just put this into your ear and talk with it like this, because that is the intended placement off this microphone. If you hold it up to your mouth like this, you oftentimes get a whole lot of those wind noises that you make by speaking. And that will be amplified when you record the recording like this and talking directly in it. Even though it might sound counter-intuitive, it is actually better to have it just hanging there and speaking into it like that. So this is one option that you may also already have available in your household and you might be able to find one of those sets around. And from there, I want to speak about a couple of the options that you may have around, but also are not really that expensive with under 100 US dollars. And that would be using a microphone like this. Or if we're staying with the microphone on the phone, then you can also use something like this. This here specifically is a road smart left plus. And this with the lightening adapter, of course, is actually a loved one microphone that is made to be connected to a phone. In this case, I could use this with my phone together, plug this in here, half this one here clipped to my shirt, like so. And again, the placement is actually there. So it should be placed there close to the mouth, but not directly in front of it. And then I can just make a podcast recording like this. Now this comes with a whole bunch of benefits. For one, you can use their phone to record. You don't need any extra very quarters. It's a very small setup, so you can even travel with this and you can also walk around with this type of a setup. So for example, if you want to do a podcast while you are on a trail of walking or hiking in any kind of way, then this could be a really interesting setup and works just about anywhere. Now the other option that I mentioned is microphone's like the one that I have right here. This specific microphone that I have here is the ATR 2100. And this is a microphone that is currently no longer on the market, but there is a follow-up version called the ATR 2100 x. The HR 2100 x is a microphone that costs around 100 US dollars. It is a multipurpose microphone, meaning that it actually has a actual airport for audio recorders and audio interfaces. But it also has a USB port and a headphone port. Now the ATR 2100 x actually has a USB-C port. So if that's important to you, then that is an option right there. And the cool thing about this is that if you plug in headphones with a normal TRS jack, then you actually have something that is called 0 milliseconds monitoring, meaning as you speak into the microphone, you actually also hear yourself through the headphones. And you can also use this microphone as a device on your computer directly with the USB cord. And that way, this here also becomes an output. So you can plug in your headphones right there and have those on. Have this microphone be used, for example, for a Skype call. And you talk into this microphone and out the headphone jack, you hear yourself and you hear the person that you are actually talking with, this microphone or the follow-up version, as well as an alternative that I also want to show you, which is called the Samson Q2. You. This is essentially the same microphone, but it is still at the same price point as the ATR 2100 when it was not the newest version. Right now, the Samson Q2, you is pretty much the same microphone that I have here, but it costs around 60 bucks. And then the ATR 2100 x costs about 100. Now again, the benefit of the ATR 2100 x is that it has a USB-C cord. So you actually get a USB-C to a and a USB-C to use BC Court and also a actual record. So this is the microphone that I have here just in a newer version, but I also have used the Samson Q2. You it sounds almost identical. There are of course, not perfectly the same, but essentially it does not really matter which one of these you get if you are choosing to go for one of these microphones. Cool thing Also, they come with a stand. It's not necessarily the best. I would definitely upgrade to something if you want to and also get a pop filter if you want to. These are these little foam balls right here and you put this onto the microphone like so some people like to put it on just a little bit so that there is actually a little bit of an air gap, but it also has a bit of an air gap in the front, so it reduces the plosives even more. But overall, these types of microphones with the USB cord and also actual, our options are great because they give you the upgradability for later to go for XOR. But they also give you the ease of use to just plugging it into a computer. If you do want to spend some money, then of course I will have links to these microphones in the description below. However, again, this is absolutely not necessary. You can totally start out by simply using your microphone on the phone, just like this, holding into your mouth and speaking into that, I will show you a demonstration of how different those things sound. So you know what you get yourself into depending on what you choose. But again, you have never hung up on a person just because the sound was bad. So let's not focus too much on this any longer and jump into the applications that we actually can use to record the sound of your podcast. 5. Recording Apps and Programs: Next, let's talk about the applications that you can use for recording your podcast. First up, we have a ability to record on the phone, as I've mentioned, with the headset as well as with the smart left plus or just the built in microphone off your smartphone, you can already start recording a podcast. Now on iPhone specifically, we have the voice memos app, which of course could be a starting point for recording voice. And it simply is just opening that up and hitting the record button and you're off to the races and already can start recording your podcasts. Essentially. However, I personally would prefer to actually record in an app called road Reporter. And this is a application which is also free, so it does not cost you any money to get this application up and running. However, it gives you more control in terms of the settings that you can choose, in terms of the quality specifically. And then also for the transfer of files to your computer, you can use different methods there as well. So this is the applications I would use for recording on my iPhone. It is also available for the Google App Store, so you have it for Android as well, and it is free of charge. So that's really cool. But then what to do if you want to record on your computer? And of course there we have a couple of free alternatives to paid software as well. Namely, we have Audacity. This is a program which is open source and cross-platform. So it means that this is available for Windows, Linux, and Mac OS, and it is relatively easy to use. I am going to have a video about how you can set this up for recording and then also some very basic editing techniques for this application later on in this class. Now if you're using Windows, this is pretty much what I would use in terms of the free market of editing software. But if you're using a Mac, then there is also GarageBand, which is already pre-installed on your computer. And you can simply start that up by looking for GarageBand on your Mac. And this actually is a pretty slick looking application. And I'm also going to feature this later on in this video in terms of how you can set this up for recording. And of course also show you how you can edit small things in this application and make your podcasts stand out a bit more. Now with that, we are jumping over to page solutions. And first up we have Reaper. This is actually a application that is a complete audio editing suite. It kind of looks similar to Audacity. However, it is much more powerful. And specifically for podcasting, there's a upgrade or a module for it, which is called ultra shall. Now Reaper itself is not free, however, it is a application that costs around 60 US dollars. However, the module, our plugin for this actually is free and that's called ultra shell and is specifically made for podcasting. Now I would consider this as well as alternatives like auditioned from Adobe and so on and so on. I would consider those later on in the process as you get to know the whole topic of podcasting. Maybe you, once you have done five episodes or so and you know that you're sticking with it. Maybe then it makes sense to transition into applications like reaper and ultra shall, or even audition from Adobe to better make use of your time while editing, however, is something to note there as well, is that some people, if you have a really successful podcast, also outsource the editing or just simply don't edit their podcasts at all. So those options are also on the table for basic editing and making adjustments. Audacity and GarageBand as free options are completely enough and totally worth checking out. And that's also why we're going to focus on those later on in this class. 6. Bit Rate and Sample Rate: Now with recording in any of the applications, you will come across a couple of more details that is not worth obsessing about. And that has everything to do with bit rates and all that stuff. Of course, you will have 1624 and 32-bit, and you also have 44.1 kilohertz, 48 kilohertz, 96 kilohertz, and sometimes even more. And WAV files, MP3 files and AAC files. Now all of that is great to know, but of course it's also not really worth obsessing about because even MP3 at the lowest quality level would still be a relatively good recording. And as long as you don't have an audio file, listening to your audio or your podcasts, nobody really cares all too much. Now, if you have the choice and you want to make the settings the way that it is supposed to be a good choice to be. Then I would start with the top to bottom. Basically, if you can get a recording edge 24-bit, 48 kilohertz into a WAV file, then that is what I would look for in terms of a recording for a voice podcast. If you can get 16-bit at 44.1, then that would be a good choice as well. But 16-bit at 48 would be a little bit better. And then of course lastly you have MP3 files. Now, I want to demonstrate, for example, with the phone here in the road Reporter app, we actually have that exact choice up here at the quality point. And that says standard 48 kilohertz with 24-bit into a WAV file. And then we also have the compressed version, which is a 48 kilohertz, 30 kilobits per second MP3 file, now, 320 kilobits per second, 48 kilohertz. That is still a really high-quality MP3 file. It's actually higher quality than for example, a CD recording or something like that. However, if you want to go for the WAF recording, that would be the step up because the way of recording essentially is eight non compressed file format, meaning you have larger files, but you also have more information to play with once you get into your editing process. And if you want to do some EQ queuing and stuff like that, you just have a more robust raw file to start with. But again, let's not obsess about this. If you have the choice, make it this way, 2448 into a WAV file. But if you don't just record with whatever you have. 7. Remote Interview or Conversation Podcasts: Now I want to take a quick moment to talk about remote interviews. This class, however, is not specifically going to go into details on the services or equipment on that because I have dedicated classes on that topic specifically which you can find on the links in the description or also on my profile here. Now remote interviews have very great benefits because you have a whole bunch of people at your disposal when you don't actually have to just consider people that are right around your vicinity or you have to travel to them, or they have to travel to you. You can do all of that through the Internet. And that's an amazing task or amazing thing to be able to do that, however, what you have to take into consideration there is the quality of recording because, you know, Skype conversations or Zoom calls for example, there, the recording quality can cut out. It can also be degraded quality because it needs to be compressed on the side of the person that is actually sending the audio. And then you are receiving it in a compressed format. And that's not really ideal for a podcast recording. And for that purpose, there actually are nowadays services which make the process of recording a podcast remotely much, much more easy. And especially now also supporting video recording and audio recording at the same time. Now when you want to do a remote recording and it's a good idea to have a high-quality microphone like for example, the HR 2100 x the Samsung Q2 you that I mentioned previously, because both of those have USB connections. And that makes it really easy to just hook this up to your computer and use it straight away without having to use any additional gear whatsoever. Of course, that's going to be an investment. And it might just be enough for you to start out with a headset or maybe even the inbuilt microphone's on your computer. The service that I'm going to mention here also has echo cancellation. So in case you don't have the ability to use headphones or something similar. That also is an option right there. Now in terms of recording your podcasts, there are a couple of very interesting web services available nowadays, which actually offer the ability to record the podcasts right inside the browser, which means that the audio that you're going to record is not previously compressed and then sent over to you, but instead it is sending a highly compressed signal so that you can hear each other and have a conversation. But at the same time, the audio is also record it right in the browser, non compressed into a MP3 or WAF file. The same thing happens with the video file. And then later on, you then get to that file uploaded or actually it is also uploaded during the recording process. But it is also kinda taking into consideration that it's not going to use all the bandwidth if you only have a limited amount available to you. So the service that I'm specifically want to mention here is actually called Zen Castor. And the reason why I want to specifically highlight this one is because they actually have a free offer on their site. So if you go here you can see, you can start with the hobbyist tear. And right here you can see you can have up to four guests and they're kind of playing around with even more than that. But also you have unlimited audio recording. You can right now, at least in this trial beta phase. And I'm not sure how this is going to affect this. Once this goes out of beta, maybe it will be a pro plan feature only. But for now, you have video recording with audio recording, and all of that is going to be recorded into a MP3 file. Now, I don't necessarily consider this a high-quality MP3 file because it's not going to be 320 kilobits or something. And it's of course, also not going to be a non compressed WAV file which you have when you go into the Pro plan here, however, again, let's just get started. And this here gives you the opportunity to get started completely for free with a, in my opinion, absolutely good enough audio and much better audio than for example, using something like Zoom or Skype to the other recording. Because there, you are always going to lose quality with the compression because the audio has to be sent over the air. First, I specifically know a couple of podcasts that are using Xen caster as well as some of these other options to do remote interviews. And the great thing there is that you get those files individually recorded, which means that even if the internet connection has a hiccup and the connection is not that well or that grade, you still have the local recording on the person's computer or on there, it is going to be sent to the Cloud after the fact once the connection is restored and you never really lose a beat in that recording. So that's a huge, huge benefit to all of this. And of course it's also about having a higher quality recording. Now, as I've mentioned, These nowadays also have video capabilities. So you can record video and audio at the same time. You can also choose to only see each other and only record audio. But in my opinion, once again, as I also mentioned previously in this class, I do believe that recording video at the same time as you're recording audio is a great benefit because this thing is happening just once. This conversation is just happening once. And why not have all the things that you can have. So you actually can, for example, make a snippet for social media or also record or upload the whole episode to YouTube. Now, once again, this is not a deep dive. If you want to have a deep dive on remote recording with things like Zen Castro and specifically how that whole process works. I have a class specifically about that on my profile so you can check it out there. And this is basically it for the topic of remote recording for this class here. 8. Recording on your Phone: Now that we have all the prerequisites out of the way, Let's start with our recording and first up, we have the recording on the phone here. Once again, the app of choice for me is the road Reporter. However, the voice memo app or something like that, would work just similarly fine for the settings. We're going to go to the settings screen. And here you want to choose quality standard 48 kilohertz 24-bit in a WAV format. And from there you can actually choose more in terms of the different compression styles that you would want if you wanted to choose the compressed version. But we are going to go with the standard version. Then we have the record screen. And here it is really the symbol S hitting the record button. And from there you can pause and then end the recording. Now if you want to, you could also use a microphone like the smart laugh plus that we have here. This is a microphone that is more or less specifically made for this application or rather the other way around because this smart laugh plus from rotors and microphone that is made to be used with smartphones, hence the name smart laugh plus. The road Reporter app is the main recording application for this microphone. The same thing also goes true for microphones like the headsets that you get with your smart phones. That can also be a great option to start recording here. Now if you don't want to use any of the additional microphones or stuff like that. You could simply just start your podcast recording by hitting the record button and starting to tell your story by basically holding the microphone with the bottom toward yourself. Now you want to be careful not to necessarily speak directly into the microphone because that way you actually have all the plosives also hitting the microphone membrane. So if you hold it coming off to the side and you speak forward, and this is kind of just picking you up on the side here. That would be more or less ideal for this type of recording environment. Now if you don't want to record everything that you're saying, you can also just hit the pause button right there. And now the recording is no longer continuing. And you, for example, can, I don't know, cough or do something like that? Personally? I would probably just have it running throughout this way. It is just one giant file and I have to then edit all of that in the aftermath, however, it makes it a little bit easier to know where I had my pauses or stuff where I did not want to record, where I do have to make a cut because I can see that wave form. And when I don't or when I pause, I don't see any of that change right there and there's no marker or anything like that. Now, once you're finished with the recording on this road Reporter app, you can simply hit the end button at the top right hand side. So once we hit that button, the recording is now ended and we can go over to the library. And here you can see you have your files that are recorded inside of this application. Now if you want to just send this file off to your computer, for example, for further editing, you can go in here and then hit the little Share icon on the right-hand side there. And from there, you actually have all the options available that you usually have. Like for example, using AirDrop and dropping this file over to my computer. So I'm just going to go ahead and use AirDrop to do that. And now if I go over to the screen, you can see I have the file inside of my Downloads folder and it is ready to go. Now you might not want to edit it on your computer. You might want to edit it directly on your phone. Now for that, it is probably a good idea to either send this file directly to the app of your choice, which width you want to edit the file. But you can also save it to your file system. Essentially, for example, let's put it into the mobile video creation folder, save it right there. And now that file is stored in that folder on my iPhone. Now another thing I want to just mention is if you want to rename this before you send it off to anywhere like your computer or stuff like that, you can hit the I on there and then you can rename the recording and you can also have the Delete. And of course, if you want to delete multiple, you can also have it, say select at the top right, and then you can select multiples, share those to your computer, or delete all of those recordings right from there. Now we have stored the file in the file system and then you could, for example, go over into GarageBand on your phone. We just have to find the way to add files. And that's actually with the loopy loop at the top right there. There we can go to files and browse items from other applications, go to our folder, mobile video creation. And now as you can see, we have the 17, 21. This is the audio file that we were just recording. And now we can actually listen to this or drag it over and place it into this application right here. Now I'm not going to go into full detail on the use of GarageBand on your phone, mainly because I don't think that this is the best use of your time if you have any other way available. I might create a specific class about this topic of creating your podcasts completely on your phone with editing and all of those things. But for now, let's jump over to the computer and I want to show you how you can record in GarageBand on your computer in one session and another session with Audacity. And then also look into editing on the computer a little bit more in terms of taking out certain parts, trimming the beginning and end and doing those kind of things. So let's jump over to the next session. 9. Recording in Garageband: So now let's talk about how you can use GarageBand on your computer and set it up to record your podcasts session right in there. Now to install GarageBand, you can go to the Mac App Store. So you're just simply open the Apple menu at the top left corner, open the app store and there you can search for garage band. And depending on whether or not you have it installed, you will see either open or install right there. And you can get it this way. Now if you already have GarageBand installed on your computer, you can also use spotlight or for example, Alphabet, which is a tool that you can trigger with command and space on your keyboard. And so then you can actually just search for things. Alfred is a really cool tool for this type of thing to kind of automate things on your computer as well as find files and programs really quickly. And I have a specific class about that because it is such a cool productivity tool. So if you want to check that out, I would definitely recommend it. But essentially what you can do here is search for GarageBand and then just hit Enter and the program is going to launch itself. Now, once you have GarageBand open, we have to choose our project. And in this case, of course, we want to create a new project from scratch. So let's just choose that. And then we have GarageBand opening up and giving us a couple of instructions as to what we want to set up. Now for us, we want to do a recording using a microphone or line input. That's the type of recording we want to choose here. And then we have to choose what are our inputs going to be. Now, right now you can see my instrument is connected with none. So right now there's no inputs available whatsoever. However, we can of course, change that by going into this little gear icon or this little arrow right there, which will bring up the preferences of GarageBand. And you can also go in here by simply going to the GarageBand I can name in the top there, then go onto preferences. And there you have the audio and midi settings. Here we have the output device, meaning the device that is going to play back the sounds that we are going to be recording and playing back. And then we also have the input device. And here we have to choose which device or which microphone we want to record right now. Now, what I have here, which would be one of the easiest to use, that would be the built in microphone because that is of course the mikes that are inside of the laptop already built in and the ones that you, for example, can use in a FaceTime call or similar things. Now something to keep in mind there is that with those microphones, you also are relatively close to the fans of the computer. So depending on what you may be running on your computer, those might be really loud and that is not necessarily ideal, but it's the perfect place to start if that's all you have and simply just start creating from there. And once you are a couple of episodes in, you want to improve or you want to start out with a proper microphone, then I would ask mentioned before, go with the Samson Q2, you or the ATR 2100 x because those microphones are under 100 US dollars and they are giving you the ability to basically connect with a USB cord. Now I have one right here. This is the ATR 2100, but that is no longer being sold. And here we would just plug this in right here at the end or at the end of the microphone, we have a normal USB port right here. And as I mentioned, the ATR 2100 x actually is a USB-C microphone, so no longer USB mini. However, I think the Samsung Q2 you has a mini port still. So you might need any kind of adapters or stuff. This here is a USB-C adapter for my computer. Now, I'm just going to plug this into this computer right here to kinda like half this connected. And now, once I go back onto my computer, when I go into the input device area that I can find this out and you can see I have the ATR USB microphone. Ask one of the options. This is now this microphone that I have right here connected to my computer. And you will see that signal in a moment. And I'm going to have a comparison video where I show you specific sounds from different devices and of course also microphones in this class. So check that out if you want to know how these different types of microphones sound and if you want to invest something or not, or you can start with whatever you already have. Now here we are pretty much done. I want to use the system settings for the output, and I want to use the ATR USB microphone for the input. And now we can close this off. And here, Why did not, why did this not update? Let's just try this again. Okay, so it's still says none. Well, let's just create our chosen track layout with the record using microphone. And I wanted to do build an output Create. So now we are creating a track right here, and we don't actually use or need the library here on the left side. So I'm just going to close that off. And now we have this track. However, I don't see whether or not that is recording. I don't have a good timing here at the top. I personally prefer to not use this layout and instead I want to set this up to time. So we actually have something that we can work with when we're doing podcasts. And we want to have a time which starts at 0 and then we just know how long the podcast episode actually is. We don't want to use the metronome because we don't want to have any clicking sounds or stuff like that. And depending on how you want to use this, I don't use the count in if you want to have like a countdown before, which is like click, click, click, and then it starts recording. Then you can of course use that. Now in GarageBand, I like to change my track way out here on this side, which is configured track header with a left or a left-click, right-click or control-click, and then configure track header. And I actually like to use the track lock and record enabled, so I actually know what is going on. So right now we have this audio track, which is the only audio track we have here in GarageBand. And down here, you can see that we have the track settings and the master settings for certain effects that we want to use. And with these tracks settings, we actually can now select our microphone, however, of course depends on the setting and if you go and go and command comma, that also opens up the preferences, the same thing as going to the name preferences. And then you open this up with the audio midi right here you have the input device, which is the ATR USB microphone. And now this is actually available here in the track. And then we can go in and say we want to have the HER USB microphone on that channel. And now you already can see the input signal right here when I speak into the microphone, and as you can see, it is pretty loud. Now, what we have here are more effects and settings like that. And those are actually applied after it is being recorded. So we don't have to worry about this right now. We can just simply start our recording. Because now we have the signal going in here. And now we can arm this track for recording. I personally like to use that asset mentioned with the changed headers so that this is actually active. And depending on what you want to record, I would record in mono, which is setup right now. And you can see this in the input area here at the bottom left-hand side. With this circle. If you click on it, it now becomes a stereo recording, which means that it will actually take both of the channels off this microphone. It does not make sense to use that for podcast recording because you are going to be delivering most likely an experience that is a mono microphone. So you have just one microphone and even if you have two people in the room, I would never split those to the left and the right ear or even just slightly pan them to those sites, makes no sense. You want to have a mono signal so that both of the ears hear the exact same thing so that it's with clarity because there's just too many instances where, for example, people are sharing their headphones and they both want to hear the exact same thing. And when you do kinda like pans stuff around, that's not possible. If you are creating some type of a audio experiential or something, maybe then it would make sense. But generally speaking, just keep it as a mono signal. So now we have the HER USB right here. We have our audio track. We have armed it for recording, and now we can hit the record button right here at the top. And once I do, you can see we are now recording and this is the microphone that I am now speaking into and that is being recorded. And if I tap that, you can exactly see that that is actually the microphone that I am working with. Now. We have now already recorded like 20 seconds. And as you go forward and you record and continue and your cord, you will end up with 10, 15, 20, 30, 40 minutes off recording. And you will have to probably trim some bits or remove certain pieces or stuff like that. But generally speaking, this is how you start to recording. And as you can see, this is pretty simple. You can see how long you've been recording for, and you can also see whether or not you have a signal going on there. So that's about it. Of course, hit the pause button or better yet you can hit the stop button, but you can also hit the play button. And now we have basically stop the recording and you are ready to go into the editing of this specific track, or you can listen to it again and hear what you have been recording. Now if you want to continue recording and you want to add more to this, you can either put it somewhere behind or you can also just put it right here at the end. I would at this point not worry about any kind of changing things or like taking something out or trying to edit right now, like cutting something off and then doing that. Because at this stage you are going to, or at least I would want to focus on just the recording, nothing else. So with that in mind, if you have something that you want to retry or maybe you I don't know, hat the mailman coming or something and you had to go there to the door and stuff like that. You stop the recording. Now you're back at the end right here. You simply just hit the record button again. Continue where you left off and just do your recording, do your speaking, and you are off to the races. Now. That pretty much sums it up in terms of how you record inside of GarageBand, how you can do all of this. There will be another session on how you can then edit your recording in GarageBand, at least to remove some parts. But with that said, let's jump over to the other program, which is Audacity, which you might also want to use, or specifically if you are using Windows. Well, I don't know why you exactly watch this session because it is for GarageBand only. But the next one about Audacity will be something which you can also use if you are on Windows. So let's talk about that. 10. Recording in Audacity: Now let's dive into the setup and recording with Audacity a program which is cross-platform available on Mac OS, Windows, and Linux. Now I'm obviously on Mac OS, so that's how I'm going to demonstrate things here. But it's probably going to work somewhat similar on other systems. To get audacity. Of course, you want to go to the website which will be linked in the description or the text details of this class. And then you can download Audacity from that website. Now, here it can become a little bit convoluted depending on how easy it goes for you. Now, I want to go with macOS, and as you noticed now I click the Download button. It already took me to the macOS site. And here the download is supposed to start within the first few seconds. And there we go. We actually have the record. We have the download happening to the download folder and I can save the file right there. Now I'm not going to go in depth with the download or the process of how you can then install this program. But basically, you will end up with this type of a file structure once you went in and opened the DNG file right here. Now, then you end up with something like this. And then you can simply just drag and drop the Audacity icon into your applications folder. But that's how you can do that. And then you can actually delete that file from your downloads folder because we are not going to need that anymore. Now let's just close this off and launch it. Basically just launch it as if you were launching a, any other program on Mac OS. I personally like to use Alfred, which is a great productivity tool, but it works the same with Spotlight, for example, just command pause or Command Spacebar. And then you can just audacity. And then you have it right there. Hit Enter, and it opens up this program. Now, once you have this program open, it's a good idea to simply start a new recording. However, that of course already started by opening the program and not having anything else open on the spot. However, if you save this project somewhere, that would be a good idea because of course, you might want to just have this as a starting point file and already save it somewhere so that you can simply do a Command S or Control S depending on which kind of system you are on and save that project to a folder structure. Now it is going to warn you right here, and especially if you do this the first time, I of course would hit the don't show this morning again. But the saving of the project is not the same as the export when you are creating the project file and you're just working with it in that regard, you are going to have weird kind of files that don't really make any sense for audio playback or any other kind of program. If you want to send the recorded the final file to a podcasting hosting platform or stuff like that. You will have to export your phone. But it's still important to save your file so that you don't lose any of your recording, especially when you crash the computer or if you want to restart your computer or something similar, then it is always important to have the project files saved on the spot. Now, I know that this is the difference and you know now too. So that's just hit Okay, right there. And now we can choose where we want to save this. I'm going to choose the desktop right here. And let's just call this the old udacity test recording. And it is going to save this as the AUP three file. And that's just hit the save button right there. And now when I open up the desktop, you can see we have a AAUP three file as well as AAUP 3 minus W a L file. Those two files are regarding this specific project that I have right here. Now, instead of audacity, I want to add a new track. And for podcast recording, I would recommend to add a mono track because we don't really care about left or right In this recording. We just want to have one microphone recorded to this program. And now we want to choose which microphone we actually do want to record. And that is done with the little bar at the top right here, we have the core audio component. And then we want to choose the type of microphone that we have. And I would say, I would choose the built in microphone as an example. Then we have a mono recording channel, and we want to have the built-in output as our output. That's fine as well. Now, with this selected, I can actually click onto the monitoring bar up here. However, what you can see is that there is no signal whatsoever coming into the microphone at the moment. So why is that? And for that we probably have to go into the system preferences. And there we wanna go into sound. And from this point we have the input. And this, when we look at the built-in microphone, where is it internal microphone, you can see that the input volume is set to 0. Now as I bring this up and the monitoring inside of audacity is still active. You can see that now we have a signal recorded from the internal microphone off the computer. So that's what you have to do if you don't get any signal. It may be because of this setting inside of the system preferences. And it is kind of annoying that you have to go into two places to check for that. But that's how it is at the time of this recording with Audacity. Now, if you want to use a microphone like the ATR 2100 x or Samson Q2. You, you might just want to hook that up with USB. Now with the ATR 2100 or the Sampson cue to you that is with a mini USB cable and of course a normal USB cord. And I need an adapter because I have a USB-C based laptop here with the ATR 2100 x. This is going to be a USB-C port. And you have a USB-C to use BC chord or a USB-C to USB-A cord. So depending on your computer, you might work with any of those. Now I'm just going to plug this into my computer here on the side. And now with the microphone plugged in, we can go in here to the same section as before. Choose the microphone that we want to have. In this case, it's the ATR USB microphone, select that, select Mono and then hit the Quickstart for monitoring. However, you might get an error message like this or the microphone might not even show up in the list. And that is because we have to restart audacity so that these changes actually take effect. So I just command queued the closing of Audacity. And now we have the AAUP three file on the desktop right here. And I can just double-click this file and audacity will open up that project. And now we have this open again, the ATR USB microphone is selected. I can also select it again. Choose mono, start monitoring. And there you can see we have a signal showing up in the monitoring section. Now if you want to increase or decrease the gain, there are two places you can do this. You can increase it right here. So now you are at a one-point zero, or you can decrease it. So now that you have a less loud signal, however, there's also the system preferences and those are not necessarily synchronized here. So if I put this to 0, now, this is also actually showing up at 0, which is kinda weird because sometimes these don't sync very well. So if I put this at the top here and I go back into Audition or Audacity. This is still at 0, but you see the volume level is much higher than that. So choose either one of those two. Probably depends on what your experiences with this program. It is an open source on completely free program. So that is something to be aware of in this case. But to check whether or not you have this microphone or the built-in microphone, it is best to simply tap on the microphone when you're not speaking whatsoever to see whether or not you have a signal because of the tapping is not a loud enough sound that actually gets transferred to all the other microphones you might have running in your room or on your computer. So let's do that just now. And that sounds like or looks like a good confirmation right there. Now if you want to monitor your audio right now, you can of course, use the inbuilt monitoring of this type of microphone. If you want to use the monitoring on your computer, you have to plug in headphones there and try to set that up. But for now, let's just focus on recording something and then listening back to that. And as we are setup here, essentially, we're pretty much done and ready to go for the test recording and simply hit the record button right there. And as we do that, you can see we have a signal that is getting recorded right now. And it's just going to move forward showing the time at the top, the wave form as in the blue colleague, I don't know, Zagat eagle ions, those are the volume of loudness that we're speaking here. And you can see how all of that translates there. And yeah, that is pretty much how you use Audacity to start a recording. And now of course we can hit the Pause and Stop button. We pause this. You can see that the recording actually stays active and it just does not continue the recording. This may be useful if for example, I don't know, someone rings the bell and you have to go to the door and now you have paused the recording and then you want to continue. And you can simply just click the Pause button again and you exactly continue or you stopped or pause the recording. If you want to stop, you can simply hit the stop. I can end the recording is now stopped. Now this essentially is just one long track. And if you start recording again, it will actually start, continue basically where you left off. So you can't really just overwrite something right here. If you just hit the Record button, you can see it actually started right here at that mark where we left off the first time. So that's how you can continue recording as well, despite using or maybe not having used the pause button, you just keep continue recording at the end. Now in terms of editing, doing some kind of effects, noise reduction, stuff like that, we will talk about a different segment or have a separate segments specifically about Audacity and how you can, for example, remove a segment and actually have everything kind of stick together like you saw just now. But that's going to be a different segment. And for now, let's move on with the next segment. 11. Recording the First Episode: Now I hope you could choose between the different programs for recording, whether you want to use your phone, your computer, your Windows, laptop, or something similar. It doesn't really matter. Now it's time to talk about what to be aware of when you actually record and hit that button to start the recording. So when you actually want to start your recording, you want to make sure a couple of different things. Number 1, I would make sure to have my phone on silent or ideally even airplane mode so that you are not going to be disturbed during the recording session. This is true for solo recordings, but it's also equally true for recordings of interview and any type of like that. Now you also don't necessarily want to be typing ahead on a computer while you are doing a recording because that's of course also intrusive off the recording. And you might wanna do if you, for example, are in some kind of an interview setting, if you have to do some research or something, use a phone, a smart phone, because the tapping on the screen is by far not as loud as most keyboards. And of course, you also want to turn off any air conditioning or try to be in an environment that is not as loud as you are usually, maybe around you. So it's not necessarily the smartest That year to sit right next to the fridge, for example. And every so often That's turns up, it's cold pump or something like that. So just make sure you are in a quiet environment. And the next thing is that it also is a very helpful to have a soft environment, meaning, for example, to have cushions, a bed or maybe a sofa around and a carpet or something similar, so that you don't necessarily have all that echo happening, which will happen if you have a very sterile room with hard surfaces are around you. Something like a kitchen, for example. It's not necessarily the most ideal for that type of error according now, microphones like these are usually not necessarily as prone to picking up those types of noises because they are mostly focusing on the front of the microphone, not the sides and not the back. So those are really good at rejecting those things and just picking up what you are speaking directly into them. But that also means that with microphone technique, you really have to connect speak into this microphone directly. And at the same time, you don't want to speak into it directly like this, because then you have the plosives. There are always going to hit the microphone membrane. And that means that those plosives are really explosive coming through in the recording. So try to make sure that you are kinda speaking your wind or blowing your window next to the microphone and not into the microphone. And of course also having some kind of a pop filter like this. Instead of just having a microphone completely bare like this. The same thing is also true if you're using your smartphone for recording purposes. For example, I mentioned this in the smartphone recording section. Basically, hold the microphone to your mouth, but don't speak into it like this because this way you are blowing the air directly into the microphone and you don't necessarily want that. So holding it kinda like off to the side is probably the best idea. Now if you are using something like, for example, the headset off your camera of your phone, then it is best to use it in a way which is natural to the microphone, meaning that this specific headset, for example, it is made so that you have one piece in your ear and it's kind of dangling here right there next to your mouth. You don't want to put this right here in front of your mouth because again, you're going to have all those plosive sounds, those wind noises, and also your mouth clicking in tracking and all of that will be recorded if you hold it up to your mouth, close like this, you're also probably going to overdrive the microphone. If you are going to be this close, then it is way too loud for your microphone. But it's probably best to simply just record with AI on the meters, which tell you how loud you are actually talking and how loud the signal is actually going to be recorded. So for example, if we go back into GarageBand right here and we have the microphone set up to be the one that I have right here in front of me. And I'm going to go close on the meters right there. If I talk right like this, you can see that it is basically clipping at the top and that would be overdrive for this microphone. It would probably just be better to basically talk like this and have it around the yellow greenish area and not clip right at the top with this dark orange that you can see right there. It is best to just have the signal coming in that end of green in the yellow area to record right there. So you don't have those noises that come with over driving a microphone. Last two things that I want to mention is 1.5 something to drink around you so that you have something so that you can basically wet your mouth every now and then. And a dry mouth can sound kind of clicking clinically. There's like these click noises and mouth noises that you make when you have a very dry mouth. And then you're ready to record your podcasts for your listeners. And something to keep in mind there is who those listeners are based on your target audience analysis that you made in the beginning to kind of think about, how would I speak to those people? Am I someone who is like this hyper energetic person that is kinda almost screaming into the microphone? Or are you come and want to just slowly and elaborate chiefly? Speak your thoughts and do so with a calm voice. Those are different choices that you can make here and of course, experiment with as well. Now with all that, you have your room, which is quiet. You have your soft areas around with a sofa or a carpet or something like that. You have your program ready to go set up for the correct microphone, test that whether or not it's the microphone by doing the tap test. And then you simply just hit the record button, Start your podcasts with whatever you want and talk about what you have to say as you have outlined in the segment where we talked about that outline for your very first episode. Now with all that, I hope you have a finished recording now or can get your finished recording going. And I would actually suggest to share that law episode if you want to in the class project area. Because that can be really interesting to see how other people are reacting there, what they are talking about, what they're sharing. Now, you might not necessarily feel comfortable sharing the raw episode. Maybe then it is time to jump into the editing process and touch up that episode to make it a little bit more round as an experience and of course also polished so that you don't have all the mishaps or mistakes that you made along the way in there as well. We want to be able to take those out and reduce some of the noise, maybe even so all of that will be in the coming segments. 12. Edit and Export with Garageband: Now that you have your first episode recorded and ready to go, let's tackle editing in GarageBand. Of course, there will be other tutorials in other programs as well, but GarageBand is the first one we're going to cover here. Now, GarageBand is made to be relatively simple. However, the problem with GarageBand is also that some things are too simple in certain regards and some functionalities are in a way hidden so that they are not as accessible. Now, first things first, let's talk a little bit about the interface. First up, we have the track that we have our audio on. Sometimes you have multiple tracks. If you have a interview, for example, recorded with something like Zen casts or, or with an audio recorder where you have different microphones for different people and all of those are recorded onto their own tracks. In this case, I have just one kind of demo recording right here and with a pinch and a zoom. So doing the motion on a trackpad, specifically for a MacBook, for example, you can zoom in and out, scrolling left and right. You can of course, scroll through the timeline, scrolling up and down the same thing. Now at the bottom here we have our effects. In this case we have the track effects, but there are also master effects, which means that all of the channels are going to be affected. Meaning that if you have multiple tracks for different people, different microphones, that is something that you would do here and it would have an effect on all of them. Now, what you can see quite clearly here is that there are pauses and we'll have to try to get rid of those. So that's something there. I also have the issue that in the beginning I have a bit of a pause or some thinking time that I want to get rid of. And throughout I have more because there I have segments where, for example, I did a couple of claps and those are oftentimes helpful as indicators that there is something important happening that I want to have to take into consideration or look at. Now once you just saw right there, what's that? I grabbed this and move it around so you can see you can just grab a track and starts to move it around. And that, of course, can also be dangerous because you might move things to a different spot where it does not belong. Now if you want to place your time marker so that you play your track from right here, for example, you want to do a cut right there or something, then you actually have to grab in these little bars right there. However, you also don't want to drag at the top right there, because as you can see with that, you kinda select a certain area. So now we have the area from like 30 seconds all the way to one minute and a couple of seconds selected. And then you have this looping active at the top right here, meaning that now it would just play back in this segment over and over and over again. Now, I just don't want to do that. We have can disable this. And now we can start by going all the way to the beginning and start playing back the track and seeing what we'll have there. And you will hear basically also what this track is going to be doing and what is coming out of that. So let's see what there. And you can already see there's a way too long of a pause. I had like a bit of an exhale. They are welcome to the Chris Spiegel podcast. Today I am restarted the recording episode. I'm going to give you a bit of an overview of what I am planning to do with this podcast. But also I want to tackle one question right from the start, but put lawsuit. So as you can see, I tumbled toward the end right there. I had to rethink what I wanted to say. So we need to remove a segment right there. And for that, I want to go in and say Edit. And there you want to go to the split regions at play hat. And what that does if I go in and do a command and t, That's just simply splits right there into two separate files, essentially our tracks, so that we can actually continue editing those right there. Now what I want to do also is go back. However, I wanted to make this cut first because this actually helps me to later on get back to this point. No. Okay. Yeah. I wanted to still fix something right there. So making a cut right there is really helpful. Now I want to go back to the beginning of this because I have some segment here that I wanted to also remove because of course I don't want to start with it's seven seconds silence or exhale. I want to start about right there. So first thing I wanna do again Command T, do a cut right there. But as you can see, it did not do anything. But that was because the track was not selected. So right now the track is not selected. The headline here are the topmost line is not selected. If I do a commodity, it does not change anything. I have to select the track and then I Command T, and it will split the track into two halves. Now with that, we have this beginning part, and I can just simply hit the Delete key on my keyboard. But now you can see I still have the silence. Now I can drag this over to the beginning, but as you can see that I have this PaaS or the silence right there. I don't have to fix that as well. And that just doesn't work really well if you want to actually do a longer podcast edit, and especially not if you want to do those edits after the fact. And if you want to, for example, change some things in the beginning of your podcasts and you don't want to mess up everything at the ending of the podcast. Now something that we can do there is called a delete and move. However, by default, this actually does not have a shortcut. It's just a function that you can do, edit or like edit and delete and move. And what you can do with that is when you have a track like this, you have split the segment already. So you have two separate tracks right there. When you select the one that you want to remove, you can go in and go edit, delete, and move. And all of a sudden, it basically takes that segment, removes it, and moves everything from back there to that place. So right now, the beginning is actually at basically 000 and welcome to the, so that's how you can remove something and automatically move everything that comes after to that place so that it is still kind of glues together. The same thing we can do now, right here I have some thinking time. Then I started again there. So in this first podcast episode, I want to discuss one of the theories that I've remembering. I also did not finish that. Rather, we're talking about the nature is not free anymore. So that's C. I wanted to reconsider their kind of remembered that I wanted to do that about there. I'm guessing that that's the right place. Now in this first episode, let's talk about in this particular one, another one of those situations where I want to restart. So this first episode, I plan on talking. Now in this first episode, I want to give a bit of other restored of what changes with and let's just make our trim or our, our split right there. So again, selecting the track Command T so that it is selected. It is actually telling splitting the track right there. Then we have that segment that we want to remove and we can go to edit, delete, and move. Now you see how useful that Delete and move this. And for this to be actually accessible via a shortcut, we will have to set that up manually. And how you can do that is actually to go into the Apple menu in the top left corner, go to System Preferences. From there, you can go to the keyboard. There we have a segment called shortcuts. And right here, you have the ability to actually add specific shortcuts for different apps. So as you can see here, App shortcuts is the segment. And there we have all applications and then we have GarageBand. Garageband is not by default in there. You can however, go in and add the plus icon, select the application that you want to use. So there are a bunch of them available. Here. You would simply enter what menu item you would like that shortcut droopy assigned to. So going back to GarageBand into the edit segment, there is the one, delete and move. So that's the exact name of that segment. And now we can actually type this in exactly. So delete and move. And now we can actually assign our shortcut that you would like to choose for this effect. Now, I found that command E is a shortcut that worked. However, something tricky here is that you actually have to choose a shortcut that is not being used by another application or any of the additional shortcuts services that are attached here. So as you can see here, for example, there are tons of different shortcuts that are attached to all kinds of things. And you will have to make sure that the one that you want to use right here is not already attached to something else. Now you can see we can actually attach something like Command C, for example here. But if I go back into this program, into GarageBand in this case, and I select this first track, for example, and I do a Command C, you see nothing happening. And the reason is because you can assign a shortcut here, but it doesn't mean that it overwrites something that already exists because of course, command C is copy and not the lead and move despite both of them now being attached to that shortcut. So you have to make sure that you attach something that is not already attached to something else. In GarageBand, I found Command E works. Now you also have to make sure that it does not be overwritten or does not override something in those other shortcuts. But that's something that you kind of have to look through. You have to find the right one for you. Now I find command E is relatively close to command T. So that kinda makes sense so that you can split and then delete and move with one shortcut or Basically just one hand motion. Now we will have to do that in the later part of the podcast, but let's just go back in here. Now I want to show you a couple more things here as we are going through this edit and listening to this, you sat the GarageBand and does not make it possible to actually have a faster playback speed. So that's something that is not in the feature set of GarageBand. And it actually is a bit of an annoyance because I think that that is a super useful tool when you are listening to yourself, you know what you're saying. You don't really have to listen through the 40 minute podcasts are recorded. You can also just play it back and double the speed or something like that. But that's not a feature that I know off is implemented in GarageBand. So unusual most other applications you can use the L key to double the speed or the playback. And that is really helpful, but here you can't people. So now I have a couple of moments here. The places we have two were me, I'm Chris Beagle. So that's another intro there about what I am thankful, but also sharing in-person interview. And there you can see I have another situation where I resisted certain segments but also shear. So there I started, but also sharing, saying, but also sharing. And let's just select that command T for the trim or the split. And then going here, but also sharing these and there it seems to be continuing. And let's just go in into the details. Select Command T. And now I can Command E for the delete and move and you can see everything moves over. And now I have this interviewing people, but also sharing these solo. And there you can see we have a nice or interesting transition. Right now. I know there are no edits, right, of my file, so I can just simply take this and move it a little bit over and potentially even bring back a little bit off this file. So taking this can see there's nothing there. And then if I go here and pull those, and then I can kinda of overlap them a little bit and try and listen for a nicer transition between people, but also sharing. And there you can see there's a breathing happening on this one recording. So let's just move that out of the way and move in a little bit closer like so many people, but also sharing these and we have a too long of a pause essentially. So that's moved us there and getting people, but also sharing there we go. The Arizona which transition where I just want to talk about a and with that where you can basically just go forward and throughout the whole thing. Do that, edit, listening for your changes that you want to make. Now, all of those things break here there. So what's going on there probably knows all that said when I continue keeping there and probably had just a thinking PaaS. So Command T to trim there. Do the same thing here, Command E for the delete and move. And now looking into the details here, there, and with all that, and there we go, I have the basic colors. The start of the main episode, like this world is just not free anymore. And here we have a couple of claps and that usually means for me something like, Oh, I wanna do an edit here, I want to change something. Now in this case, I have a segment here where I'm basically saying that I'm not going to have the full recording going on here and I'm not going to bother with the main part of the episode. And then we are going to just continue here with the ending of the episode. If you want to hear this full raw file, this full demo recording, essentially I have that available in the files of this course here as well. So you can check that out and maybe even edit your own version of this. But let's just take this out again. Command E moves everything together. But usually this, in this case, this of course, would be where you have your main part of the episode. So you might wanna do something differently there. Come on, eat, taking this part out. And now we can go in. And now we have the ending of the podcast here, which essentially just talks about all the things that I mentioned in the previous parts of the course about how you can connect me or how you can find information. What the next episode we'll be about when that will be published and also thanking the people for listen. That was the first episode of the new podcast. So that's going on there. And then towards the end, Let's see if I have sampling error either mistakenly going to talk about a couple of my ideas around launching a YouTube channel growing on that platform and seeing how it can go from there. And I will here you see you or connect with you in the next episode. Thank you for. And there you can see, I am normally creating video podcasts. I speak like I'm speaking to a camera or at least that's how it sounds to me. Now, at the right end, rosier child shall we have the chow, Chow, and then I can just cut there and again, delete. In this case, it doesn't matter if it's a delete and move because it is right at the end of this episode. And with that, we have taking out some of the most annoying part of this podcast. And we have a segment which is intro. And then directly after that we have the outro. Now something else that you might run into is the difference in audio volume. Now in other programs you have abilities for normalization and stuff like that. Now here we don't necessarily have that, but we want to bring up the track management for the effects again. So that's with the b in the keyboard so that you can bring that back up. And we have these things right here. We have our compressor, we have an equalizer as well as the amines or reverb, we have a equalizer as well, which is also more detailed right here. And of course, we can change things with different types of plugins and also make adjustments right here. Now, what we can do here, for example, is we can jump into the equalizer and I can show you a couple of the very basics, essentially. So one thing that a lot of people do is take out most of the lows or some of the lows, but not in this way. So this is actually not something that I would necessarily suggest because with the way that this equalizer took out the lows, it was coming on notch filter. Let's just disable this. How can I get rid of this? So now we basically have no effect right here and we make this normal. You can also use something called the analyzer, but I want to do a low cut filter. This means that I want to cut certain frequencies down. So if I put this like this, for example, you can see that we are taking away the frequencies at around 80 hertz. And that is usually something that you do in audio because this way you are getting rid of a lot of the rumble and also the air conditioning noises, the wind, if you have any, those kinda things are now no longer part of this recording, essentially, as you listen to it. Hello and welcome to the Chris Spiegel podcasts. Today, I am recording this first episode. I'm going to give you a bit of an overview of what I am planning to do with this. Now with that, we also can enhance some of the myths essentially so that we can have a bit more in that spectrum, this podcast. But also, I want to tackle one question right from the start. Now this first episode, I want to give a bit of an overview of what changes with society as we are growing further and further. And then with the later part here, with the high, we can also just take a little bit out there because usually that's an area where we don't have any voice becoming more and more people. And one of the effects of that is that I find that nature just isn't a free anymore. We can't just go all the way. Now that's the basics of a queue. You can do much, much more with this, but that's as far as I want to go with it. So you can cut a bit of the lows, cut a bit of the highs, and maybe accentuate somewhere in the middle so that you have a nice sound or nice tone. You can actually go in here and to basically hear what sounds better, you can sometimes overdo it a little bit. Don't overdo it too much. You might break your speakers or ears, but basically just listening for what sounds more pleasant, what doesn't. So that you can basically remove certain frequencies or at certain frequencies if you pull them up right here. Now the next thing also is the compressor. And for that you can actually go into the details when you open the plug-ins here on the left side in the track editor. And there we have the compressor, and then we have this setup right here. Now, this is probably way too much to go into all the details, but you can use something like the voice one right here. And then you have something like the vocal limiter, vocal hard vocal first, and so on and so on. Let's choose the studio. And now when I play this back with the compressor on and off, listen for certain changes, a bit of an overview of what changes with society as we are growing further and further, and we're becoming more and more people. And one of the effects of that is that I find that nature just isn't a free anymore. We can't just go all the places there you can hear that this adds a bunch of punch to the sound. It basically makes everything and a little more harsh, a little louder. And that is pretty much what you'd expect from something like this. Let's try what this classical vocals compressor does. And it does not seem to be as aggressive. Starting at minus 14 db test, we have to pay entrance fees for natural parks and stuff like that. All of those things are going to be talked about in this podcast episode. Now a quick thing about, and you can see that here based on these LEDs that are very aggressive on the first one. And now it's not just not as much. This essentially takes the edge off of less of the things then this extreme compressor that we have beforehand. The basics of a compressor are that everything that is louder than a certain threshold is going to be dumped damped and down so that it is not as extreme, but at the same time it also makes everything a little bit louder. That is the gain that you see right here. Basically with if we were to do a plus 10, now everything is 10 decibels louder, but at the same time, everything that's as loud as minus 14 or over that threshold is actually getting to be a little less loud by a factor of four to one. So now if I play this, this should have a very, an extreme gain going on here. And I'm Chris, I'm a YouTuber, a content creator and consultant, and I am launching this podcast as a outlet of ideas versus essentially to share more about what I am thinking about and also just how life is going. So if you're interested in that, stay tuned for this episode and also future episodes where I plan on interviewing people but also sharing these solo episodes where I just want to talk about a certain subject matter. Basically bounce off ideas and maybe connect with you in the common section of any. And there you can see basically as you make this threshold more aggressive and it will be as or more other ways. 13. Edit and Export with Audacity: Now let's talk about Audacity and how you can edit your podcast in the air, or at least to some minor tweaks. Going over to the screen. We of course have audacity open and we have our test recording. Now I can just drag and drop this in and we have a new track ready to go. Now you can see there are a couple of things going on immediately. We have a bit of a pause right here at the beginning. And I have something we're obviously I was kind of thinking around there are high spikes, right? The error twice, which means that I have clapped a couple of times, which is a indicator for myself too. Yep. That's a segment where I want to keep an eye on or I want to have to check that out again. And we have a ending. One's more where I don't have anything to add there, or where there is a pause essentially. Now first things first, let's just have a quick listen right here at the beginning. And there you can see that obviously is not something that we want. Hello and welcome to the and there we have the beginning of the podcast. Now, to get rid of this, you can simply just select everything, like just drag and drop on the track. And the delete key on the keyboard will then just take that segment out. And now we are at the 0 mark and we had Pele. And you can see it immediately starts the podcast. So that's already one of the first things that we want to have to take care of. Now, right here you can see there's also a pause, so it's worth listening in and listening for what is going on there. One question right from the start. But put Mazu obviously I was rethinking and reconsidering and stuff like that. So let's just set a bit of a delete, right? The're, so removing all of that. But you can see that you don't actually see the edits in this program. So what we can do in this was Command Z. So that command to basically redo something, we can go into the edit and there are actually different ways of removing something. So you can split, cut, split, delete, silence Audio, or trim the audio. Now if I want to trim the audio, it would remove everything left and right from this. So if I trim this, we are just left with this part that we did not want. So if you go back in and remove special and say we want to split, delete. You can see now we have a split right there, and we have a split right there and we have nothing in the middle. So now we have this removed, but there's nothing. Instead. The same thing is in a way kind of true the for the silence audio. So Command L, that would be, and then you just have no cuts whatsoever, but you have silence. So in this case I want to do a split the lead, which would be Command Option K. So let's just hit that because it is a indicator left and a right of something happening there. And now I can go in and listened further, what actually, or where do I want to restart and what is the actual restored? So in this first podcast episode, and I remember what I did there. So now I can jump forward about the nature is not free anymore. That's NCI kinda reconsider it something and if you want to have the recording, I have this available in the class project files and all of that, so you can check that out for yourself. Now something else I want to mention here is how you can actually change the playback speed, which is super important if you want to listen to something like a podcast which is 45 minutes, but you don't want to spend 45 minutes editing all of that. And that is actually a segment right there, which is the playback speed. So right now it is set to 0 or one rather. But I can change this to be a three for example. And then it would sound like this. Now, that's not necessarily understandable. But if we go down to, let's say a 2 something, let's say a two, something like that, and hit the Play button there. That's still understandable, but it is way faster than if I were to just listen at this with normal speed. So let's jump in here and listen with a little bit faster speed, but maybe not all too crazy and see where we can find the next beginning. Now let's talk literate. Now just based on how this looks from this point forward, I had a couple of retries, but here it sounds or looks like I'm actually continuing my talking. So let's just go back. And now we want to select all of the things that I have from right there. And in this case, I'm just going to go ahead and hold the Shift key. And I have the play head at that position. And now I want to select everything to this point right here. Now, I want to just delete everything there and move everything to that point. And in this case, delete key, and we are done. And all of this is moved together now with different types of recording with multiple tracks, for example, you have to take into consideration those other tracks as well. Otherwise everything is out of sync. So that's also not something that you want to necessarily do. But with this one track recording for a solo interviewer, for solo recording, we make, we can just go ahead and use this like that. And now we can listen to this again and see what the cut is sounding like right from the start. Now this first episode. And there you can see we have a bit of a at the beginning, but we can maybe just get rid of that black this start. Now this first episode. And there we go. We have already fixed this and we have now shortened this segment to be able to have all that in there. Now I have another pause right there, first and interview. But also sharing in. And you can see I now want to make this again Command Option K to just have this, basically this marker caught here to search for what also hearing these solo episodes. And there we go apparently. And now I can cut this and move it back together. So sharing, but also sharing. And I want to just apparently also dosage. Take out this part because it is duplicated. Otherwise, I plan on interviewing people, but also sharing. And we have another breath right there, which I want to also cut out. So let's just take that out as well. Interviewing people, but also sharing these solo episode. And there we go. So now we have that segment taken care of as well. Now you can see there is another pause right there. What was going on? They're going to be there. And it just basically fit with all that finished. And now I'm starting the podcast with my introduction. So let's just take out this whole pause again because obviously we don't want to have a pause which is like, what forth three seconds or something like that, going to be there. And with all that said. And that basically brings us to this point, which is the start of the main episode or the main recording essentially. And there we have this segment which basically just says, I'm not going to record a full main segment right here. And then we are at the ultra 0, and then we swing that, that was the first episode. And there we have the altro. And at the end of the altro, I want to just basically just removed the silence at the end so that we don't have any weird noises happening right there. And now we have a edited episode, basically just a overview here. You can take out parts, you can move things together, and you can remove all of the mishaps that might have happened during the recording. Now there are a couple of things that you might want to do when you do have a editing like this. Because now what do you do with, for example, the loudness of the whole thing and what do you do with different frequencies if you are in a remove certain frequencies and stuff like that. And for that we have the Effects panel right here and there. We actually have a couple of things that I would try to do in the beginning or whenever you want. Because now we have the normalization and loudness normalization available to us as effects that you can either do on the raw file that you get when you are starting or once you are done and half your edited episode. Now, I want to do a normalization right now. And you can see that it says, I have to select everything to be able to do a normalization. So Command a to select all of the available audio essentially. And now I want to go back in and do a normalization. And you can see we want to normalize all of this to a offset of minus one decibel, say, okay, and now everything is at a maximum minus1 decibels. However, we still want to normalize in terms of the loudness. And you can see there's different loudness tones going on here based on the wave form. And for that we have the loudness normalization. Same thing applies. You want to do a command a to select everything that is in the track. Now we have our setting, so that's a perceived loudness at minus 23. Now podcasts are generally at a minus 14 or minus 16, so that's a way higher loudness, but that's pretty normal for, for example, Spotify, YouTube and similar places like iTunes as well. And then we want to say treat mono as stool mono recommended. That's just fine with us and we do that. Ok. And now you can see that the loudness or the overall loudness off this track has actually changed and it will be a bit louder. You off What? Now there are tons of other things that you can do with effects right here. For example, you can also add F graphical equalizer. So you can see that right here. You can add certain frequencies and stuff like that. The problem with a equalizer like this is that it is relatively nothing saying in a way. And it also does not really help in terms of giving you a good representations of things. However, there are different equalizers and effects that you can play around here. Compressors are also really interesting because they help you bring up the volume of certain small silence segments, but it also helps you to dampen the loud segments. But with the loudness normalization, you're already going to go into a nice little area there and have most of those problems taken care of. Now over the long term, more of these effects will probably go into your development of how you edit your podcast. But right at the beginning, let's just keep it simple. Again. You want to just shorten everything up, cut out the things that you don't want to have in there, do maybe a loudness normalization to minus 14 value of S or the perceived loudness standard. And then we're ready to export. And to do that here, we are going to go into File and then Export. Because remember, saving the project is not the same thing as saving an export with the project file. You end up with something like this, the AUP file right here. And as you can see, this is a 172 megabyte file. Now we want to export this and exporting go to File Export. And then we can choose between MP3 and a WAF file. Now if you want to have a raw file, essentially a high-quality, uncompressed file in your Google Drive or Dropbox or somewhere where you want to archive your show, then I would choose that because later on we will talk about the metadata embedding and that program actually also can convert to MP3. That's something that you can do if you want to have an archived version. Now let's just focus on the MP3 though, because that's basically giving us a found that we can straight up, upload to any place we want in terms of the hosting of this show, again, we wanna do this on the desktop. We have the audio test recording MP3. We want to have an average, and the average should be a 128 kilobits. We want a force export to mono because we don't need any other stuff like that, because this is a mono file anyways. And with that we have average 128 kilobytes, which is great for audio of specific be voice and speaking. And we have a forced mono file and we can just save that. And here you're asked to enter your metadata. However, we are going to set the metadata specifically in a specific program which is made for podcasts metadata and also has capabilities like for example, adding markers for your show notes so that people can jump to certain specific topics that you cover in your episode. So let's just export like this. And you can see the export is really quick. And if you have a very long recording, that might be not the case. It might take a little longer. Now in the next segments we are talking about the metadata and then it's up to the upload. 14. Meta Data and Chapter Markers: Now that you have your finished edited file for your podcast, it is time for the metadata, and that is description, title and all of those things for your podcast. And specifically also embedding that data into the file for your podcasts MP3 file that we then later can also upload to your hosting provider. Now the two text elements that are important for your podcast in terms of metadata are the title and the description. Now the description can be a lot of things because it also can include any links, for example. But basically what I would do is open up some type of a text editor, Word or Google Docs. Or in this case I have IA writer and then start with something like your title. And then write the episode title. First episode, why? The world is not free anymore. And then you have the description or show nodes. And here you want to have a Basic First Paragraph about what is going on in this episode or basically describing what this episode is about. And then I like to also include important links and stuff like that. And I, for in this program specifically I can do a bold text element like this, links and resources. And then maybe this includes your website for example. So in my case, Chris Spiegel.com. And then I want to link this. And maybe you mentioned some type of a article in the whole thing. Let's say that. And you can just link that as well as to, let's say this is on whoever's website, Medium.com. And maybe you also want to include your contact details or contact social media. And just like that, you have a basic setup of course, you can also include your Twitter or YouTube or whatever. I would not try to overdo it with the social media links or the other stuff. You can have, things more or less minimal, point people to your website. That's really helpful because that is kinda like a hub or you can then distribute the people again. But this is basically the setup that I would have for a show node. A first paragraph describing what's going on in the episode. If you have guests, you have those links to their details as well, their social media, their website and stuff like that. And of course you need a title. And in terms of titles, There's one specific very interesting thing, and that is about the use of numbering inside of the title or not. Now, iTunes doesn't really like you to use any numbers anymore like Episode 1 or stuff like that, like one colon and then you are titled after that because they actually include that type of information already in their own setup or in their own applications. However, I have found that titles are still a place for numbering because it is very easy or it is much easier to search for an episode if you have a number in it. So for example, if you find a interesting episode online and you want to find the same episode in your podcast player app, then it can be really helpful to have the number, at least to give you a feeling of like where am I in the search of this episode? Because sometimes it's not necessarily that obvious. If you just have a title, is the episode that is like 300 episodes ago or is it something that is very recent with a number is much easier to kind of gauge that range. So I personally like to have numbers in the title, but that's something that is up to you, whoever wants to run the podcast, if you have podcasts that are very much just a one-off topic or something, then it might be good not to have any title or not to have any number in the title whatsoever. But now what do you do with this information? And of course, you will need this information when you have your hosting setup because they are, we will also have to use a title and a show node segment for all of the things that people can find this information on a website. It's basically a little mini blog post, but there are also tools like, for example, forecast and podcasts, chapters. And these actually help you to bring this information directly into your MP3 file. And that is particularly interesting or important because different applications actually also display this information. And they are really helpful in terms of giving your files a cover photo instead of just showing the normal kind of like the typical file and that I MP3 file it would show. And this helps you to be basically more of a well-rounded product. In this case, we have forecast, which is a free application. You can simply just download this from the website of overcast dot AFM slash forecast, and then we have a podcast chapters. Both of these will also be linked in the resources segment, of course. But the podcast chapters is a more powerful tool. It also has the ability to show you a waveform and you can actually listen back to the episode to check if your chapter markers specifically are set correctly. But it also costs a bit of money. So this might not be for the starter code, but if you are going to start out with something, I would definitely go for forecast and we'll have a link or we'll have a look at that right now because we are going to take our, let's say the GarageBand test recording. And I'm just going to open this with forecast. And for that, for cast, I'm going to open forecast up now to import a file into forecast. One thing to notice that if you click the Import Audio, it only gives you the option to import WAV files. However, if you go in with the file and then open, you then can also select a MP3 file and open that up. And of course now we have this open and it is going to transform your file. If you selected a WAV file, it's going to make a MP3 out of it at a selected betrayed. And then we have our podcast title, episode title, and the summary. Now I would copy and paste the title over, so we have that right here. And then we also have our show notes or the episode summary. Put that in here as well. And then of course you also have your podcast title. Now in my case, I have this Chris Spiegel, thoughts, stories, and ideas. That is one of my podcasts, for example, where I have the setup now you have also the segment down here for chapter markers and there we can actually add some. So now we want to, for example, have at one, we have a intro. And then now becomes a bit tricky because depending on your program, you might be able to set these markers in the beginning. Now if you don't have that, kind of write them out while you are recording or while you are doing the editing. And then you can add these here. So have your time markers, let's say at one minute and I don't know three seconds. We have main episode. And then maybe you have a segment where you have a specific topics. So let's say that's at one minute and 45 or something, 41 seconds. Then you have question, are you reel? And you can also put links right here. And this is interesting because some actual programs for podcast listening will give a specific intro or a specific list of chapters. These links attached so that the person listening can actually click on these things and that makes it really convenient for some people, and I personally find them really important. However, adding chapters is also something that is much more powerful if you have a program that can handle all of that for you. Now if I go into the other program, so the podcast pod cast chapters, and I open that up and now I give this file, the GarageBand fall into the air. Let's just drag and drop this in there. Now you can see we have similar options. We have our podcast with a title and author. Then we also have our title for this specific episode. We have a description. Now, let's put these side-by-side. We have the title of the podcast episode, and we have to remove this line break there, and we have the description right there, and we can just paste that in there. Now we also have a, basically a audio player built into this. So I can go and basically select 000 and there we have nothing going on. So we can add a chapter which is at 000, 000 and so on. So let's call this intro. And now when we go in and let's say we listen here and have a playback, whereas the playback button There, we are growing further. And let's say I found my place right there. I can now add a new chapter with the plus icon right there and say this is the main episode, and so and so forth. So this kind of makes a little more handy because you can actually click through the episode and you can listen back and stuff like that. However, on the other hand, the other program is completely for free, so you can basically decide what you wanna do there. Now at the end, you want to go in and hit the Export button right there, safe the MP3 file again. And the same thing goes with garage with the forecast application. You can just save this information and it is actually going to be saved into the same file. If you open a MP3 file, if you open a wave file, it's going to be saving that into a new file and you will have to choose where you want to store this. Now what you can see though, is that we don't have a hard work yet. And I can just use a Artwork of one of my podcasts. Let's say I want to choose something of the maker coffee, which is a German podcasts that I host. And there we have the base files and there we have the cover photo. And this here is my cover photo for that show. And I can just drag and drop that into here. And now if I save this and you can see the MP3 file there, just close that off. And if I save this file, you can see that this actually upload our updated the icon on this MP3 file. So that's something that I find really, really cool to be able to have. This really represents my podcast and have all the details. Now, we are going to talk about how you can create your own cover photo. In the next segment, I just wanted to show you how you can actually attach it to the MP3 file with forecasts or the podcasts chapters app, and so that you can set all the metadata up for your podcasts. Now let's just copy over this as well, so that we have podcast title here in this file as well, so that it basically becomes our template file. And also maybe we have a podcast description. And in this case, let's just use some Lipson. And just like that we have a bit of a demo text. We'll just say at Lorem Ipsum texts that we can use later on for the setup of this podcast on our hosting platform that we'll talk about in one of the next lessons. So let's jump over there. 15. Creating a Podcast Cover Artwork: Now it's time to create a cover photo for your podcasts. And the main reason why this is so important is because it is basically the first thing that people see. It's almost like a logo or of sorts in different podcasts applications, these are incredibly important because they are the main factor that people see when they see your podcast in a directory of multiple podcasts. It's basically like a CD cover or something similar. It's incredibly important album artwork. And we are actually going to start out using Canva, which is a free tool that you can use inside of your browser or even on a mobile device. And the first thing is first, the cover photo of course, is a one-by-one graphics. So let's just create a design. And in this case, we want to create something that is a one-by-one and it doesn't seem like we have something that is available here, which makes a whole lot of sense. Let's just create our own, let's make it a 3000 by 3 thousand. And there you were able to see with the 3000 entered, it already opened up the suggestion to be a podcast cover. So let's just choose that suggestion. And just like that, you can see we have a one-by-one square, which we can use to create our podcast. And you also see we actually have templates available that we can now use to create our podcast. Now I found, or I look at this one and I really like it and it's a free template. So let's just open that up and you can see we now can change what we want on the thing. Now in this case that say this is for r from me by tourists Spiegel or width, let's say with Chris Spiegel in terms of that. In this case, it's stories or thoughts, stories and ideas. Let's look how that looks. Maybe we have to count. Squeeze that in a little bit. How do you change the circle? Because apparently if I changed the size of the circle, it doesn't change how big every node There we go. So now we changed that. Now the inside thing is no longer correct. Let's remove the inside thing. You don't need that extra text, but now we can put this right there. And maybe we want to remove the background because obviously that's not me. But let's put something else there or put myself there. And for that, let's upload some graphic upload media from my device. And I want to go into my Google Drive and I have my avatar taking this one. And then I could put this on top of here. And this would be something that was very recognizable because it is my, basically my graphic avatar that I use on all other platforms. But we have to put this into the background. So let's say send it back or bring, send it back. Send it back all the way. So we have now, we have this Chris Spiegel at the bottom here. We have the thoughts, stories, and ideas right there. But we want to make this bigger again. So let's say we want to have, where does it go? We want to be able to make this bigger. And is it possible to change this here? And then we have these things here, which let's put them in the years or around the ears, which is kind of funny. But the end goal here is to create something that of course, you like for your style. Now, I think that's kinda cute. Let's just roll with it and use that. And once you have created this or used different kinds of elements and put those in there, maybe you find some type of a microphone that you want to include or whatever you wanna do there. You can just use this application to create your cover photo with a one-by-one style. Click the Download button, choose the JPEG because we want to include this inside of our other files. So we want to include this into the MP3 file and so on and so forth. And then you can basically just say download. And with that, this is going to be ending up in the downloads folder. So if I open up our downloads folder right here, we'll have that JPEG showing up in just a moment, or rather, my computer's going to ask me where I want to store it, put it in the downloads folder. And now we have the width Chris Spiegel file right there. And as I've mentioned before or as you know, we just looked into forecasts. So if I open up this file again, instead of forecasts, I can now drag and drop the MPI JPEG file into there and save that. And now we have this cover photo ready to go on our file. And I want to also put this right next to the MP3 file because we will want to use this as a cover photo for the main podcast on the hosting platform that we are going to be setting up in the next step. 16. Free Podcast Hosting: Now it's finally time to set up a hosting platform. And for that, we have two different ones that I would recommend to you specifically in the free space, we have red circle and we have anchor. Both of these have pros and cons. Now personally, I'm going to recommend red circle, mainly because they have a interface which facilitates things like multiple podcasts by one person. They have unlimited podcasts hosting and they have a bunch of extra features like for example, donations, as well as features to collaborate with other podcasters to shout each other out and become more popular and also integrate with advertising deals. Now, this platform is free and the way that they make money is that they are then basically giving you a chance for sponsorships as well as collaborations and stuff like that, and they take a percentage of those earnings. On the other hand, anchor is a alternative which is also a free app on your phone and a online service for podcasts hosting, which also facilitates things like donations and also voice calls or calls basically. So you can use those features to create your podcasts episodes inside of anchor as well. However, personally I find the interface limiting and especially if you want to host multiple podcasts, It's not really that easy done with anchor. Again, I'm going to be focusing on this red circle because there we are going to be able to do all the things that we want to be able to do. Now the thing with podcast hosting over the long term was always that podcast hosting was not free. The reason being you have to host those MP3 files and there are hundreds, if not thousands, of people downloading those files whenever you publish a new episode, and that incurs a charge because traffic is not really free on the Internet nowadays, with YouTube being as popular as it is. It was really just a matter of time until some offer came along where podcast hosting also would become a commodity. And that has happened with the likes of anchor as well as red circle. Now again, I personally much prefer red circle because they offer a more robust solution overall, which helps you be better at managing things that give you statistics that give you brand management tools and advertising deals, opportunities if you want those, you are not, of course, forced to use them though. Now we are going to be looked into the setup of your account with red circle and what you can do there or how you can get that first podcast up and running. Show you the interface and all of that in the next segment. 17. Setting up RedCircle for your Podcast: Now let's jump into the account creation and setup with red circle. The links to the platform, of course, will again be in the description of the course. And once you get there, of course, we want to go into the sign-up area and they are, you want to choose? I am a podcaster here. You just have a couple of details. Create the account, and then you are there. I'm going to just sign in for myself. Now this is what it looks like if you have a couple of podcasts published, and of course you can manage more. Now, something I would look into, of course, are the account and there you can have your profile setup as well as the notifications managed. You also can manage money in terms of how you want to set up the donation functionalities and stuff like that. You also have the ad platform, dynamic insertions, cross-promotion with other podcasters, which is something that we can look into another time maybe. And then specifically also your analytics for different parts of your podcasting journey. Now, we want to create a new podcasts or we can hit the Create new podcast button right here at the top. And with that, we are asked for some of these details and we can now take our details from the file that we have just created. So let's open that up. The details right there. And of course we also have our graphic that we just created in Canva. So let's take the cover photo, drag and drop that in there, and then we can choose the name of the podcast. So this is going to be thoughts, stories, and ideas by Chris Spiegel. So let's put that in there. And I'm just going to go this demo at the beginning because of course, that's not going to be a podcast I want to be publishing. We have our podcast description, which I'm going to put right here. And you will notice that maybe you want to have some links here as well because you might want to link to your Instagram account or similar things. So let's just type it out Instagram or follow on Instagram at Chris Spiegel. And we can link that to be my Instagram link. And just like that, you have a link inside of your podcast description. You have a custom link. And I personally would try to get something really nice. So let's say you wanna do something like this, or just your name of course, and have bat. And then we have our primary category. Let's say this is about life. Life science, no lifestyle and was what I was looking for in a way. And let's say we have leisure. Hobbies. Yep. Let's talk about hobbies. You have your contact e-mail address and your author name. In my case, that of course is my own name. And just like that, you can already hit the Create button and the setup process for this podcast will commence. And once you have that, you can click on it and you have your first podcast created on red circle. Now again, one of the best things I think about red circle is that you can't have multiple podcasts up and running on this platform completely for free, with unlimited episodes and files attached to those episodes are attached to those podcasts. So I actually have a couple of them. I have a German podcasts. I have a podcast with my girlfriend, and I also have a English podcasts which is not yet up and running, but I am planning to launch later this year. So you can see I have a lot going on here, and it's really easy to manage all of that in this one platform. Now, with this setup, you can see everything is grayed out except for the episodes because we need a first episode to actually start publishing a podcast. And for that we can open this up. Episodes, create a new one at the top right here. And once more, we can take our details first episode and, and our details from here as well. Let's copy this as a formatted string and put this in. And there you can see we have our links as well. And now we have the episode artwork. And I would just upload the cover photo of the main episode or the main file essentially. And then we can also upload our MP3 file. And that's of course, the GarageBand test recording, which also includes the cover photo. So let's just drag that over there, open it up, and now it is being uploaded right there. Now you can choose whether you want to schedule the episode for a future date. Let's choose the 13th, for example. And then you also have more details that you can enter here if you want to know, since we are keeping things simple, let's not worry about those things. Now. You can lastly, save as a draft or publish. Now publish if you have a future date, of course means that it's going to be scheduled for that time. And now the MP3 file, the cover photo, all of those things are going to be uploaded, then they will do some processing which I'm not essentially sure what they are doing. They are probably kinda like checking the file whether or not it's a, at a bit rate that is compensable or okay. And just like that, we are in the editor for the mineral ads if we want to add any. So as you can see, you could now insert, add points at insertion points into your podcasts, but I don't want to worry about that with this first podcast. So let's just save without any of those. And just like that, we have our first episode added to our podcasts right here on red circle. And now I can go back to the main page for the podcast and you can see we have the other options available as well. We can embed a podcast player or on a different website. You can enable donations. You can have exclusive content so that you can actually have people that are paying customers. And you can basically send those individual or specific podcast episode that are just available to those people. And also you can talk about distribution. Now, one thing first is the public podcast page. Before we jump into the distribution on Spotify podcast, apple, Apple podcast and some similar things. We want to take a look at the public page. And for that you can copy the link right there, open a new tab and open this page and add red circle.com slash shows slash demo Chris Spiegel, because that's how I called it. And there you can see we have the cover photo at the right-hand side. We have the title, we have our description including the link, and we can play now, share or listen on. And there you can see we have links to all kinds of different platforms. Now, as you add more distribution channels, those will also show up here, which is really cool. We also have the share functionality. And of course, once you have your podcast episodes live, they will be listed on this page as well. You also have a segment for related shows which can be really cool because that also helps you become more popular in this network as the, basically the system gets to know your target audience and then can recommend you to other people that might not. I have heard of you or are interested in your show. So that's really cool. And now back in the red circle Administration Center, you can still make a lot of changes by, for example, going to the right hand side with the three dots right there. Go to podcasts settings if you want to change any of these things right here, your title, your description, and such things. And you know, I always am a big proponent of being able to change things later on because you are going to grow into your podcast and you will be able to make those changes like so. And lastly, one of the most important aspects of a podcast is the distribution. And for that, you want to go into the distribution area and choose where you want to distribute your podcast. Of course, two of the main places where you want to worry about or what you should be worrying about is Apple podcasts and Spotify. And those are the two biggest places for podcasts at the moment. Now, you can see, you can choose here between, I am already on Apple podcasts or you want to distribute on Apple podcast. And then you have a whole tutorial right here, which basically describes how you are going to be able to get yourself into Apple podcasts. And I think it's relatively easy to do. You just sign up to Apple podcast and then you click the new show button, add an existing RSS feed. They are actually showing you the RSS feed for your specific show, which you need to ask to Apple Podcasts. And then you can go through the process and copy over the podcast link for your show. And once you've done that, then actually on the page, it will also show that as a listening option. And the same thing you can also do for Spotify. And right there you again, I'm already on Spotify or I want to dispute it there. You can click the Confirm button and then they will do that process for you, which is quite handy. And then you also have the last two, ajar Stitcher and Amazon music. I would not necessarily worry about these two as much they are nice to have if you want to have your podcast just about everywhere. But at the beginning it's not, it's not the worst if you don't have it available there. Now, that's something that you can do if you want to have the episodes available on those other platforms. If you just want to have people find their website and listen on the website, then you don't need to do that. But it's highly recommended to at least add Spotify as well as Apple podcasts because that makes it so that people can use whatever podcast player they want to listen to your show, specifically with Apple podcasts, because that's a player or a network of players which all base their information on that specific host, which is Apple Podcasts. And then you can, for example, use overcast or any other podcast player or on iOS, for example, to interact with the show, download new episodes, subscribe and much more. And just like that, we have your first episode up and running on the web. And I hope you've figured out the distribution for yourself for this process. Now in the next step, it's time to actually start talking about your podcast and sharing it with the world. 18. Tell People About it: Now that you have your very first episode online on red circle, you can actually start out sending that link to other people and inviting them to be part of your listenership and of course also interact with you about that episode. One of the easiest way, of course is to just simply link them to this page. Red circle.com slash shows slash, and then your domain name or your name of the podcast which you set up when you were setting up that podcast on red circle. However, you can of course also link them directly to Apple podcasts or whatever place they might want to go by just having that open up and then sending them those links that might be specificly interesting or helpful if you have people that you're explicitly know where they are going to be listening and you just want to invite them to subscribe to your show that way. Now there are tons of different tools on the market to actually share snippets of your podcast, cut out certain pieces to be able to share those with your following on other platforms to actually start growing quickly on your podcasts and get more listenership that way. However, those tools are not part of this course at this time. Maybe I will have another course about sharing snippets and hot outs of your podcast. As I will produce more courses on this specific topic. Now it is time to send to the podcast out to your friends and followers and get feedback so that the next episode can even be better. However, if you don't want to share that publicly yet, of course, you can also share it in the class project so that we can give you feedback on this with other students as well as myself, taking a listen and giving you feedback on your podcast and also seeing what you might be able to improve or what is already really, really good. And with all that said, I think it's time for my final words and maybe also a microphone test. 19. BONUS: The Sound of Different Microphones: Now at last I have a bonus lesson for you where I'm going to compare the microphones that I mentioned throughout this class and rank them based on how I would choose them in order. Now first, here's a set of comparisons so that you can listen for yourself how these different microphones sound. This of course, is in my room with my environment, meaning the walls are pretty clear in front of me. I have basically blankets hung up so that I am speaking toward those. The ceiling is also pretty hard and the floor has a couple of carpets. This of course is all going to change depending on how you are having the environment. But now, let's dive into these comparisons so that you can hear for yourself how these different microphones, the headset as well as the smart laugh and also the inbuilt microphones off the iPhone, the MacBook, and of course the ATR 2100 perform. This is a test recording directly into the bottom microphone off the iPhone 11 Pro Max. This is how it sounds when you record a podcast with this type of microphone. Now this is what happens when you talk directly into the microphone. It is not necessarily recommended. I would use it off to the side so that the blowing of air can go away or passed the microphone instead of directly into it. Right now you're hearing how it sounds when you use the microphone that is built into the headset of the iPhone with the lightning connector. This is supposed to be around your mouth, however, not directly in front of it when you're bringing it up close to your mouth and you basically talked directly into the microphone. This is how it sounds. Right now I'm using the road smart laugh plus to record this audio. This is how it sounds when you place it around your colon or your neck area, or a Olivier or lapel microphone is supposed to go. Right now you're hearing how it sounds when I talk into the microphone that are built into the MacBook Pro 2017 model. This is how these sound directly without any additional effects or whatsoever. I'm just basically sitting in front of the microphones or the laptop and the microphone's do all the rest. Right now you're hearing how the sound of the ATR 2100 performs, comparing it to all the other options with the pop filter on top. This, in my opinion, is probably the best sounding solution of the bunch, mostly because of the characteristics of these types of microphones, because they don't really pick up much of the room tone. They don't pick up much of the reverb or rents and stuff like that or other minor sounds that are maybe in the background like fan noises and stuff like that. I also want to show how the sounds without the pop filter, especially when you now put your mouth against this and basically have a lot of sounds that are with the p sounds and bring pizza pronto, for example. Now when I bring back the pop filter and I say the same thing, bring pizza, bring pizza pronto. Now those sounds should be a little bit more dampened and not as extreme. Again, best thing is to basically speak to this or into this from the front, but a little bit off to the side so that the p sounds and the wind gushy can go straight across the microphone instead of into the main capsule. Now with this comparison, I wanted to give you a overview and a ranking in terms of how I would choose between these different microphones. And the order is pretty much exactly this. The ATR 2100 to the microphone that I have right here, the new version or if you want to go for the alternative which is the Samson Q2, you is of course going to be the best solution for this because of the characteristics of this type of microphone in rejecting most of the noises from a rounded and also with that rejecting most of the reverb, right, then as the next best solution, I would say it's the smart left plus from road, which is I think around 60 US dollars or euros. And of course you would use that together with your smart phone. This combination sounds pretty good to me as well and is easy to use, small to pack away, and a good solution for that purpose. Then we have the actual built in microphone off the smart phone. And actually I was super surprised to hear how good that actually sounds. It is a really nice microphone built into your smartphone, and you can simply use it by holding your smartphone up to your mouth. Of course, then you kind of lose the ability to use your smart phone as a camera. But maybe you have a second smartphone, maybe an old smartphone or whatever, then maybe you have a solution for that as well. Now if you want to make it a little bit more handy, of course, you can use some kind of a smartphone tripod and just have it basically propped up so you don't have to hold it the whole time. But even holding it, I think works great. Then we have the AirPods or ear pods from Apple, of course, the wired version. And these are, they've really bad solution in my opinion, but so are the built in microphones off the MacBook. These types of headphones are simply not really made for the recording of a full spectrum good sounding audio. So that's why I'm putting the ear pop your plots, or also the built in microphones off the MacBook. But I'm also guessing the AirPods to be in this category as well of microphones. Let R rather low on the end of the spectrum in terms of what I would choose. Now if I were in a situation where I don't want to spend any money whatsoever, I would just simply start out using my smart phone and use the microphone that is built in there. The same actually is also true if you just want to start making YouTube videos, for example, I would also just start out with my smartphone, use it as a camera, just like this, filming myself, of course not with a screen towards me because the cameras on the back are just that much better. But the same thing again with a podcast. Just start with your smartphone with the microphone that is built in here, and then you can step it up from there. And of course, I would at some point recommend going with a laptop and a microphone like the ATR 2100 or similar versions like the Q2, you and so on and so forth. Now, if you have any questions around the microphones that are tested here, or have further questions around the topic of microphone choice. You can leave those in the discussion section. 20. Final Thoughts: Now at this point, I just want to say thank you for taking the time to be part of this class. I hope it was helpful in getting your podcast out to your listeners that you can start growing your own podcasts and also start the journey to becoming a better podcasts or with every single episode that you publish, as I've mentioned before, please share your podcasts in the class project section. I would love to take a listen and I'm sure other students will also give you feedback on your progress with your podcast if you have any questions or suggestions in terms of more classes on the topic of podcasting or improvements of this particular class. I would love to hear about that in the discussion section or on my Discord server, where I have a community of people who are all in the topics of podcasting, film making, YouTube, livestreaming and similar areas. That's a really cool place to learn more about these different topics from others as well as myself. And of course also know about whenever I am actually going to be publishing new classes right here. And while I'm at it with self-promotion, you can also check out Chris Spiegel.com where you'll find all kinds of links to my resources, my dear, my semi-regular newsletter, and of course also my YouTube channel. All of the links that I've mentioned throughout this class. And also here at the end of course, you will also find in the description or the text details of this class. And with all that said, I hope you are building an amazing podcast. Create stories, and of course, share them with your listeners. Hope to see you in another class, charge out.