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Editing a Podcast Episode Using Ableton Live

Stephen Haunts, Trainer, Public Speaker, Author

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5 Lessons (38m)
    • 1. Course Overview

    • 2. Importing Audio Assets

    • 3. Editing the Podcast Audio

    • 4. Adding Channel Effects

    • 5. Exporting The Final Podcast


About This Class

Recording a podcast is a fantastic way to share your thoughts and ideas with a broader audience. Podcasting has seen a massive surge in popularity over the last 5 years as they are convenient for people to listen to when out and about or commuting to the office.

I have been recording a podcast with my co-host, Kevin, for the last 2 years called theĀ Side Hustle Success Podcast.

In this course, I will show you how to edit a podcast episode together using the popular audio editor, Ableton Live. I will be editing down a real episode that we recorded of theĀ Side Hustle Success Podcast, to get it ready for publishing.

In this course, I will cover:

  • Importing your audio assets
  • Editing the podcast audio
  • Adding channel EQ effects and a final mastering bus
  • Exporting the podcast ready for publishing


1. Course Overview: Hi, My name is Steven Horns. Welcome to this course editing a podcast episode with a built in life for the past two years have been running a podcast with my co host Kevin called The Side Hustle Success Podcast. This is a show about running cypresses while she was still employed. It is a format show where me and Kevin discussed different subjects each week but have recurring segments like what We're up to Questions and Answers, a show topic on our recommendations for the week. Once you have recorded an episode, I think all of the audio edit it together into a Finnish episode. Using the audio editor able to live I Was Alive is a fantastic tool that is very popular with music producers and DJs. But it is also very easy to use editor for producing podcast episodes with minimal friction . In this course, I'm going to take the files recorded from my podcast, which consists of two audio channels for me and my co host Intro and Outro music and midsections things. A walk through the editing process to assemble the entire show and make sure that China was really cute properly and then add a master and busted a final output called him to record the show. Me and Kevin Meeting person means a zoom hate six recorder to capture the audio three lapel mikes that we each wear. This keeps a recording of the show very simple. Once we have recorded the show, I moved the audio False, My Mac and then loaded Montoya Belson Life for editing. Able to live so fast and easy to use. I can get a show recorded. I'm ready for publishing in a very short space of time and so can you, by watching his course, So let's get started. 2. Importing Audio Assets: because on the screen now you can see tables in life. Now, the version I'm using is the standard version. So is our the free different versions you can get is the middle warm on. We're going to use everything or we're not gonna use anything that's not included with the Naples and live. So if you have to, you know, standard version of life, then you're gonna be ableto added a podcast quite effectively. So what I'm gonna do first is we gonna create our project on bring all of our assets in on that point, will then be able to start editing. So first of all, I'm going to create a project. I'm just going to file Save as how I'm going to do is save this onto my desktop. Now, this particular podcast episode is about the no code movement Go home. Which is a movement where people are setting up businesses but not having to hire software developers because they can build their products using off the shelf products. So one that is crazy, that project there. So I'm gonna quickly go to my desktop when we open that fold drop, we could see that we have our projects here I'm gonna do is we're gonna quickly copy some of my assets that were going to use into this project. So first of all, I have the two recordings of me and my co presenter, Kevin, that sees to your files here. So I'm just gonna copy those across. Now, these are straight off of the recording device that I use, which was a zoom hate six device. And then we had to Lavely lapel mikes plugged into the recorder. So one of the channels is my co host, Kevin, and the other one is may. Now, I also have some other assets to be used in an episode social copy days in Islam. So we have sting on two different variations of the theme truth. So when I go back into able to knife, what want to do is onto quickly at that project into the browser here so that we could see all of our assets. So here we could see that we have a short sting. We have our different team trains. That's the entry when this is the exit fingering. So we now have everything that we need now. What were those I want to go to the arrangement view, which is where we got to edit everything together. So you press the tab key and it takes to the arrangement view. Actually, you can press these buttons up here is well suited to take in the views I want to do is remove these two Midi tracks because we're not using MIDI on. What we can do is we could just get our house in order, just get things set up. So this is gonna be for the fame train. This channel here could be our stings. We used the stings to signify that one section of the podcast has ended on the next one is going to begin and then I'm gonna create an of rodeo trunk. This will be my co host, Kevin on of rodeo Track, which is going to be May so I won't go. There's gonna bring start bringing in some of our assets since the festival. We're gonna bring in Kevin. So I'm gonna track this in place it on the timeline in double click on it. Now you'll notice. Here is as it loads in on the way form. We have this walk, but unable and I want to do. For now, it's just disabled that the reason that is is the warp mode is its analysis that's able to live does. And it tries to work out where the beats are in the sound. So if he was a deejay in years bringing in lots of different music, you can actually read time the music or the samples into different time signatures, which is fantastic if you're doing remixes or your sort deejaying on stage. But in this case, we're not doing that. We're just dealing with raw audio. So if we don't care, we can see that we have our file loaded. I'm using the plus and minus keys to zoom in. But we can also click and drag at the top here as well. So I made dinner as I'm now gonna bring in, uh, my audio, which is me. So I was gonna track that in again. I'm gonna quick walk there, just state warp off. We're just gonna let this analysis finish happen. Him. It takes a few minutes, but it takes a few seconds. But once it's done, it doesn't need to be done again. Okay, now that's done is gonna make sure the play head isn't there the beginning. I'm gonna zoom in at the moment. These two files are kind of out of sync. So I'm just gonna make sure that both dragged up to the beginning of the play head, which means I should be both in sync. Hello, and welcome to the site. House of Success Podcast. I'm your host, Stephen Haunts. I'm joined by my co host, Kevin Taylor. Okay, so it's not being done. So what we can do is we can just trim the start of this now what one is I wanna trim off all of this stuff at the beginning to the way I do that. As we put the play head in that position, I press control. So I command in a and that just slices through the audio so I can then go in, delete what we have there. So this now just starts at the beginning where I start talking. Hello, and welcome to the site. House of Success podcast. I'm your host, Stephen Haunts. I'm joined by my co host, Kevin Taylor. So we need to reduce the volume adjustments on this, but wall will handle that in a moment that one doesn't bring in our fame chain. I was going to track this up to the beginning here so we could see that the theme tune kind of ends about this point. Here's what you do is I'm gonna select press shift and select that bottom track, and I'm just gonna quickly line this up. But the Boston here, So as a music towels off, we want the talking to start. So let's see how this sounds. Hello, and welcome to the site. House of Success. That sounded pretty good. Listen to a bit more. Okay? So that loaded in with war Pontes was gonna turn warp off because I was going too fast. Quickly move his play head again. Try that way. Welcome to the site houses. Success Podcast. That sounds good. So we now have our two main, um, audio channels for the talking between me and my co presenter loaded. We have the theme should loaded, and that's a theme. True Finishes playing it, then sort ducks quite nicely into me. Reading out the intro. That's good. So it's gonna quickly do a save is the amount a little bit now I noticed that Kevin's audio is a bit quiet. So what we're gonna do is I'm gonna press tab to go back session view. I was gonna bring Kevin's audio order. That already is quite high. It's one good days. Click on his sample. I'm gonna bring the audio up. Um, down here. Free agents, digital name. So a business idea. So I'm joined by my co host, Kevin Taylor. You do You bring him up just a little bit more. So I'm joined by my co host, Kevin Taylor. So sounds mess. And we can we can play around the volumes a bit more later on. So these amounts we can see here that we have pretty much all of the audio loaded in, and that's all looking quite good. Now what we're gonna do in the next clippers, we're gonna go through it's going to drop out any bad bits from the audio. Just make sure we have some consistent audio, and then I'm going to put in the stings into the relevant positions 3. Editing the Podcast Audio: like I should know that we have, um, four of the audio for me and my co host on we have the intra music load up. What would now do you typically go through and just listen to the entire podcast on, then just delete any bit switch. I know. Good. Now I know that the recording this is actually pretty good. It's not really anything I actually want to delete, but I will show you kind of what that process looks like. So let's say, for example, we just want to remove this section here. That seeming so that's just a shame. This is, despite being done in error. So you can just grab a beer if you wouldn't say. You know, I think at the moment you got balls, a beer. So to delete this, what I do is I just put the play head in the correct place to control a control a on both the tracks and do the same here. Then I could just go and delete that section and then close the gap. No, I never had a beer there, but I think the future gonna have, like, a tap. You know, we were got something that is a proper hips it? Yes. So they have just removed a section. I don't actually want to remove that. I want to keep that in. But this is typically what you know. You just put the play. Headway wants it, deletes you don't find slice, and then you close the gap. So what do you actually want to do is try and find where the end sections resection podcast are so that I can add in stings, so I should see where we are. Movements should be a good one. Yeah, a lot of ominous alienate listeners if your software developer, please. So this is kind of where I'm doing some of the intro. So what I want to do is find the bit where we go from the intro there mean, Kevin, talk about what we've been doing over the last week, and then we go into a question, announces sections. I was trying to find that section. That's because what it when I first wake in comfort, I hired a fixed ask. Oh, you have? Yeah. That wasn't Yeah, normal is the area is just down the case with Venice, which is one of the real. Okay, so this is the points here where we move over to the question section. So I had to listen through quite a lot. This just to find where that point waas off, See, with the power of editing in this video, removed a lot of that. So we know. Now, I know this is the point where we want move sections. That's just listen to this book. Beauty survived. Stock question. Hey, which we have. So, at this point, here is where we're gonna move over to the question. So what I'm gonna do is I'm gonna put a slice. It's gonna zoom in and slice the audio. That kind of about this point here, hair slice in there put slice in there they want to do is I'm gonna take our short sting, and I'm gonna bring that in this section here. Then what wants to do is just drag where are slices audio and bring it out on the tail end of this sting. So see how that sounds on that question, which we have. Okay. So again, I've liked that sample. INGE is walked. It's not going to turn that walk. Half warping is brilliant. If you're trying to bring in different beats, if you're making music, you want the beats toe go from one tempo to another because we're dealing with just static pieces of audio. We don't need that on that question, which we have no escape from A as I question from Jill, of which we have no escape from it. As I question from Jill. So it doesn't public, as I question from Jill, so it doesn't public. So this little bit here, I'm gonna remove that it doesn't really add anything and then just bring our audio back into back a little bit to the end of this stink like, let's try that again. Question. OK, as a question from Jill, so does a public health issue. Okay, so what we've done here then So we've now splits the podcast into its first section. So we had the entry music have a section where I mean, Kevin, just talk about what we've been doing since we last recorded. So we take it turns just to say what we've been doing in the running of our businesses. Then when we get to the end of that section, our next part of our first folks. We have a kind of a strict format that we follows you then go into audience questions. So to help the notes, the move into that section we have that little sting that plays and then we go into the questions. So what I now want to do is find where we get to the end of the audience questions, then go into our main topic for the show. So that's trying to find where that is, isn't it? So, yeah, if you have to do it, Yeah, two week isolation. Okay, so that's still in the questions. E. This is the area where we're gonna move on to the main topic. So again, I'm gonna quickly zoom in and find a good place to cut something. Say, here's a good place to come. How often do you complain about that? Cos quite a bit. Yeah, a case that spoof on certain. So again, I'm gonna put the play head rolls Did slice I'm going to do Come on key and a again to do that slice. Now we can just move this next section out a little bit. So again I'm gonna bring in another copy of this thing. Yeah. I want to bring this to start this fairly early. And I'm gonna, through cuts, get into this kind of superfluous audio that's in there and then bring this back a little bit. See how that sounds. Do you complain about the company's quite a bit. Yeah. The case has been sponsored today. Show topic scared. Just want to bring this ever so slightly. It was just a little bit too much of it. The late for this thing started. Yeah. Theo Case, Let's move on to today Show topic, which is great to have now put in the peace row next section. So what we do now is me and Kevin talk a bit about the main, the main topic of the show. So on this particular episode, we're talking about the no code movements, which is about startups who I want to launch a products, but they don't want to hire developers. Are there that have the skills to do developing themselves. So they using off the shelf products to build their businesses. That's what we're discussing in this episode. And then once we get to the end of that, but we then do some recommendations where we both recommend something that maybe we've seen on TV or saying that purchase, which is kind of useful to running businesses, are now need to find that section. Similar racial think slowed it up here way found the bit where we transition to the final section so I can zoom in. And I was gonna put a slice in there. She's double check because myself about it, and it helps your baby people get cool. Let's move on to our recommendations. And so great. So it's perfect. So we've got a bit of kind of dead air War audio here, so I'm going to remove that, and then we'll bring this sting in again, again. Turn off warping, see how that sounds about it. And it helps people cool. Let's move on to our recommendations. And so what you got to recommend? Yeah, Okay, So in terms of our show, those are the main sections that put in. So we have the intro section where we discuss what we've been doing since we last recorded . We have the section sting which denotes that we moved on to the next section will then have the section here where we do audience questions again. We split those sections with a sting sound. So we know we've moved into the next bit. Then we have our discussion of the main show topic in this area again. When we get to the end of that, we have a sting. And then this is where we do our audience recommendations products that we recommend into the audience. So resume in tow near the end, they should begin to the show. Just like what I see. Yeah. Interesting debate now. Well, you might maybe should recommend bait trimmers next to matrimony. I am? Ah, yeah. Okay, so I think that's a wrap When they said, Yeah, that's around natural way. So you're so okay saying quite nuggets. That's definitely our ends. What we want to do now is you want to put our second variation of the theme tune in I'm gonna dry class in, remove the warping and then set that to the correct place. So as we finished talking and say goodbye, we want to have the music start plane. So let's kind of see how that position works to wrap when they send yet Yes, around natural way So you also okay? Sitting quite but great. That sounds pretty good. So it's gonna remove some of this dead air with the end here? Yes, I did. The music will keep playing. Then it will fade out. So that's where we want the end of our episode Britain. So the actual main editing, you know, dropping up the audio is now done. Typically, what I do at this point is are then go and listen to the entire episode back on. And if there's any kind of areas of dead air which I just need to move or any sort of vocal flubs that I need to remove, I can just go and trim them and then sort dragon going into the right positions. But I'm not gonna make you listen to this whole episode now while we do that. Well, I'm gonna do is I'm gonna remove this region. So it starts at the beginning here on and goes away to the ends so that when we come to export our episode, it will export the entire region. Remember being Kim perfect. So now we have why deemed to be a rough cut of the episode. So what we want to do next is also adds e que effects onto each vocal channel so that we could do a bit of processing and just a bit of tidying up on the sound off our vocals and want to finish off by adding what's called a master and compressor limiter to the Output Channel kind of help Just regulate some of those volumes and give you that kind of radio sounds a little, so we'll do that in the next module. 4. Adding Channel Effects: So now we have a rough cuts of our episode, which is great. So I want to do now is, first of all, I'm gonna go back to the session view on and typically what I do, because when me and Kevin record the podcast, we always record in person because we just enjoyed during that on Kevin away sits to the left of me and always sit to the right side. Typically, what I do is I take the panning controls and I would just do a little just a gentle pan. IV aside, um, just gives up kind of that sort of spatial awareness. It kind of gives it the feel of as if the person listen to the podcast is sitting in between us and, you know, we're still sitting either side. So I go and do that first. Now I want to do is adds an equalizer onto each of our wish channels. It's what we do is we go to audio effects, and then we have a plug in here called E Q eight, and I was gonna drag this one of these onto each channel. So if you start off with Kevin, not typically What we do is I put a low box called a low pass filter or high pass filter in place. And what we're doing here is we're just cutting off some of this sort of the low booms. So why go over to Kevin's Channel? Just hit solo. So that means it's only Kevin this plane Wild. I can die and some senators Great instanet. It's just really nice. Actually. Now what this does is it means only the high frequencies will pass, so it actually cut off a load of low frequencies. Some senators, great Internet. It's just really nice, actually, because what you confess, I working profit. I hired a fixed ask Oh, you have? Yeah, This is really good for just getting rid of any kind of extraneous, low rumbling noises on kind of high pitch noises as well. That's while also doing. Kevin will go to number four here, and I'll set that to a low pass filter again. This is just going to stop any kind of unwanted high end signals from coming through in the audio. I am, Yeah, it's quite nice is this is a lot easier if you just want to test an idea that I'm to pay if you're nontechnical. Person is, it's a great tool. This is just a great waves or tiding up the audio. So if there is any kind of low, low end rumbles which come through in the audio, any kind of high pitched civilians, noises just kind of help trim some of that out. So in the duties for me as well, it says, it's the high pass, right? We'll do the same here. This is just kind of good practice to does. It just stops any kind of lower frequency noises, any kind of higher picture noisy, which could be really pronounced when someone's listening to a podcast on headphones. Let's just listen to some of my order and see how that sounds, please. Then it's up, yet we will explain course I would. Yeah, stomach this really cool like Coworking space in double benched. It's it's called, even though I have soloed my audio only because being Kevin recorded in the same location we were wearing lapel mikes. See, when I talk for my lapel mike, you hear me quite loudly, but Kevin's literally sitting within a couple of meters off me so you do hear some bleed from his voice, but when you have both of our channels mixed and sort synchronized together actually doesn't sound too bad. Actually saw it sounds quite full on Rich. Okay, so what we've done that is so I've added that equalizes reach of our channels. Typically, what you do is, once you've done an edit of the podcast is you might before you do the final export, you might just starts week around possum headphones on. See how it sounds with some headphones on in. Just tweak the EQ you if you need to. But the fact you've got the U they're set up means you've got the tools ready to play with . So I want to do now is sort of look at the final mastering chain. So let's just look at the general kind of level of audio that we've got. Please let it stop yet. We will explain. Uh, course I did not see coming. Okay. So we could see we can see down here in this section of the audio Wasn't peak. It's not up yet. We would explain. So what we're gonna do now is we're gonna point in an audio effect back. And then we've got his mix in the master in section. And then where you can do is you can use what's called on effects rack enables. In life, which is a collection off audio effects plug ins have been trained together, making use ones have been created by I was in themselves. We can use something like so I normally use, uh, wide and warm masters, one that I typically use, but you can experiment with them. I was gonna drag this on to our master channel. What this does is it gives you compression and limiting. Now, what this means is that, well, what compression does it helps you compress the dynamic range of the audio, which kind of sounds a bit complicated, but effective. What that means is imagine you've got a song, for example. This is a good way of describing it. A typically a song or verse in a song is gonna be quieter than the chorus. So the verse will be at a lower level when then normally go into kind of like a high, punchy chorus that a difference between that volume of the verse and the volume of the chorus is called the Dynamic Range. So if you don't do any kind of compression so that signal, then you might have a fairly choir chorus. So votes and then which means you turn the volume up, just make it a bit louder. But because you turned the volume up, once the chorus kicks in, it's gonna be too loud. So what you want to do is you want to reduce that difference between the lower volume audio in the higher value audio on it. So we used to do that is called compassion. Once you've done the compression within what use a limiter to help just kind of push that total volume up. And it kind of gives you a more balance rounded sound. So now we put that on next, Just have a look. Listen to our audio and see how it sounds and in just week around with some of the settings . Hello and welcome to the site House of Success podcast. I'm your host, Stephen Haunts. I'm joined by my co host. So this comp wet, dry dial here. So when it sets 100% west, that means you're hearing everything that's coming through this particular effects. Plug in When you such it's a dry. That means you're hearing none of the effects of this plug in your just here in the original signal. Specifically, one liters. I'm gonna have this sets 100% wet. Hello and welcome to the site House of Success podcast. I'm your host, Stephen Horns. And I'm joined by my co host can maintain that this is a show for anyone who has a product or business idea. It wants to go full time on it eventually or maybe already have. This is a show about product design entrepreneurs, freelancers, contractors, free agents, digital Neymar's and anything in between. In this episode, we're gonna talk about the no code movement should be a good one. Ominous alienates our listeners. If your software developer please let it stop yet, we would explain, uh, course I would not see current yet. So what I've been doing here's I've just been pushing up the gain of the limits. So what we have happening is the dynamic range between the quiet parts of the track and the loud parts have been kind of squashed. So there's not so much difference between the two and then they them pushing up the volume of the whole signal. So if we listen so it with the compression on, and if I just quickly turn it off, we should hear a difference. And welcome to the site House of Success podcast. I'm your host, Stephen Haunts. I'm joined by my co host can maintain that this is a show for anyone who has a product or business idea. It wants to go full time on it eventually or maybe already had. So you can see that when I turned it off, everything went a lot quieter and it kind of felt a lot more week. But then when you turn it on, I think sounded more rounded. Germany louder on a bit more punchy, which is good. So Germany, what you do when you read it in a podcast room, you've just quickly places on him have just tried fiddling with some of the settings on. A lot of it is kind of experimentation, but what I recommend you do is that you listen to it free speakers and you also listen to it through headphones as well, because the vast majority of podcasts are listen to one. Headphones or earbuds are not necessarily high quality. I'm headphones. Avery could just be no the air, but that someone's got where their phone village put them in. There is what they go for, a walk or commuting to work. So once you got these effects in place, you do want to experiment within, kind of see how things sound. But for now, you know, let's just assume that's the episode edited on that we've gone through. We've listened to it on different headphones are now ready to start exporting, which is what we'll do in the next section. 5. Exporting The Final Podcast: So once you've gone through and you've edited all of the audio few podcast you've added in new music you added in your e que channel effects on DSO the master in effect on the Master Channel. Once you're happy with the final results, you don't want to go and export it so that you can go and load it into your podcast host of choice. So the way we do that unable to live, he's actually very easy. So we go up to the final menu and then we say exports audio and video, and that brings up this kind of dialogue panel here. Now you you need to tell it what channel we want to render. So in this case is the master. That's what pre selected now because we set the region marker across. The entire episode is already set those lamps in place, so we know it's going to give us the entire episode. I'm just gonna leave these default setting, see hand go and change the resolution sample rate that you can record that I'm going to keep the same. They are two different options or explanations. We've got PCM, which will give us a sort of longer un compressed way file. But you concern on offer in this case, I'm not going to use that because when you upload a podcast to hosting site is typically gonna be done via I'm MP free. So this case is already pre selected. So we have MP free. It's going code at 320 bits. He's in a constant bit, right? We're not recording a video, so I'm just gonna go exports. We then need to select. We want support it. So I'm gonna stick it on my desktop for the moments well hit, save on that. Start exporting that export would take a while so as to render the audio. And then it has to encode the full audio into a plug in there. This episode is about an hour long, so it's gonna take just a few minutes to export. So I'm gonna use the magic of editing just of whiskers free to the end. Like I said, the actual render has happened Now is doing re sampling where it is converting the exported audio into the correct desired sample rates of 44.1 hurts. Now that's done is now going to encode that master Channel into an MP. Free this. You will take a few minutes, but getting more. Use the magic medicine and we'll skip this through to the end. Okay, so the encoding is just finished. We now have on exports it and podcast episode, so I just quickly saved on the desktop. So if we go here, we can see this is how final episodes fighters hit. Play on here. We can hear it. - Way . Welcome to the site houses. Success Podcast. I'm your host, Stephen Horne. I'm joined by my co host. This is a show for anyone who has a product or business idea. It wants to go forward. Yes, So you get the idea. I'm not gonna play the whole episode, so I we just recap what we have done. So we've used able to live, which is traditionally it's all that's used by music producers produce, you know, dance music or what music? Anything like that. But as an actual editing tool, is probably one of my favorites audio editors to use out there. It's just so flexible, powerful window of it, and it is an absolutely perfect for creating podcast episodes. So to recap the way Me and my co host Kevin Recorders. We you know, we set a table. We have a zoom hate six audio recorder with two lapel mikes on. We just sit there and we tracked, You know, we have a rough kind of structure that we use for our show. We just sit there and we have some show notes in front of us and we talk on. It's just really kind of a nice chat, Really? Then what I do is I take that audio. I bring it into able to life. I bring in the assets that we need to the theme tune in This stings and I think, just go through and just gradually sort of start. You know, any mistakes, find where the splits between the sections are on at these things in between. And then I do that. No. Until I get a rough cut of the episode, I will then go through and listen to the whole episode. Make sure that there aren't any sort bloopers or just bits that I want to remove from it. Then what I did is I take mine and Kevin's Order and I pan Kevin to the left a little bit of me to the right just a little bit, because it kind of reflects how we recorded the episode in the first place. We've Kevin saying just the left of me that at that point I bought in, um, an equalizer, the graphic equalizer. I mean, why did I put a high part in a low pass filter onto each of our channels just to get rid of any of that kind of lower frequency rumbling, which would, at 71 or any kind of higher frequency semblance or noise and then typically, what you wanna do? You wanna listen to that through some headphones? Just tweak the EQ. You just make sure sounds good. Stephen's voice is different. So how I edit mining Kevin's voice might be different to how you edit your voice, for example. So you just need to tweak that. Once I was happy with the over a week you internal balance off the show. I then went on to the Master Channel, and I puts one of the pre built audio effects racks in their mixing a master in sections. Why preferred one called wide and warm. Then why does I just tweak the settings in there a little bit just toe. It's like the dynamic range between bits where we talk quieter versus bits where we talk a bit louder. I just kind of reduces that down dynamic range a little bit, and then we can give a little bit of a push to the overall volume. Kind of the best way I could think of this quietness. You kind of gives it that kind of radio sound. If you listen to a talk show on the radio, it kind of has his kind of low end, no gutter or earthy sounds on. This is kind of what compression and limiting those. It kind of gives it that radio sound, which is great, cause podcasts are effectively Internet radio shows. So once we did all that Sweet, then went on, exported our audio eso. First of all, I set the play head or that the region marker to span the entire episode and that pre fills in a render lev in the export settings, and I then told it that, too. I told her that I wanted to explore an MP free, which I just hit export. It took a few minutes for that to export converts. Once he's Danny, then end up with an MP free foul, which represents your whole episode. So I really do you actually looking at a point in life. There's various different versions you can buy from a very limited version, which is actually more than suitable for doing what we've done here with this podcast. Mommy's in the middle version called Our Tables and Life Standard, and there is also a kind of a more expensive suite addition. But really, for doing what we're doing here, Podcast. It is overkill. You don't you don't need that unless you're particularly looking stupid music production as well, but as a tool able to lives. Actually, fantastic is probably, I think, one of the best tools out there for being able to bring audio into an environment and then smear, want to edit it and drop it around really, really easily without any friction. I hope that kind of a message you take away from this you need. We've got podcast with no four tracks of audio, and I should be very easy to bring it all together and just medicine altogether. So if that thanks for listening