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A Broadcaster's Guide To Working With The Media - Ace Your Next TV / Radio Appearance

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    • 2. LESSON ONE - B.L.E.N.D








    • 10. CONCLUSION

    • 11. COURSE RECAP


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This course will provide you with the fundamental skills you will need to engage with the media, whether it be for a television, radio or podcast interview.

This class is for everyone who may have to speak to the public; whether you are a CEO of a successful company, a spokesperson for an organisation, or a student preparing for a class presentation, I will guide you through different media scenarios and help you successfully navigate your way through this, often daunting, obligation.  

The tips I share in this class will help you feel more confident and better prepared for any upcoming media engagements such as TV / radio interviews or other situations where you will be working with the media.

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Sias Du Plessis

Broadcaster, Media Consultant


Hello, I'm Sias.

I'm a multiple award-winning sports journalist and correspondent. I've been in the media industry for the past 19 years.

I got my start presenting sport at the University of Pretoria's campus radio station, TuksFM. From there I went on to Talk Radio 702 and, later,  South Africa's biggest radio station, 5FM, where I worked as a sports presenter, journalist and producer for 10 years. 

During that time, I also worked in television, at SuperSport International, as a presenter, journalist, commentator and producer.

Currently, I work at China Global Television Network (CGTN) as a sports correspondent and producer. I also do media consulting for top athletes and sports franchises, such as Red Bull Athletes and the Titans cr... See full profile

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1. INTRODUCTION: hello and a warm welcome to broadcasters guide to Working with the media. I'm Sias Duplessis, an international correspondent, sports journalist, broadcaster and media consultant from Johannesburg in South Africa. I have almost 20 years experience working in media and television, radio and print. I aim to share some of the insights I have learned in my journey with you to make you more confident, capable and comfortable during any media engagements. This course is not just for CEOs or politicians or professional athletes. It's for everyone from someone starting out in their career to an established professional . Students, teachers, anyone who wants to feel more confident when working with the media. We will touch on a number of topics over the course off several lessons, from the blend of technique to how to sit correctly. We'll introduce you to the fundamentals that will equip you with the skills to handle your media engagements. Thanks for your time, and I look forward to taking this journey with you. Let's get started 2. LESSON ONE - B.L.E.N.D: Welcome to Lesson one of a broadcasters guide to working with the media. I'm CIA. Suplicy. Let's get started now before we delve further into television, radio and press conferences. Let's begin with the fundamentals. And one thing I tell a lot of people that I coach, including athletes, is to remember the blend technique. Now. It gives you a place, a foundation, a starting point where you can be relaxed and be ready for your media engagement. At the end of the day, you selling the message by selling the messenger so it's important to remember blend. If there's anything you take away from these lessons, it will be blend. So we start with B B is for breathe. Now it's very important. Before you even start the media engagement to breathe, take a deep breath and do it over and over. If you really need to, you don't need to hyperventilate. We'll breathe fast. Just a nice deep breath. A few seconds in and out just lowers the heart rate and it gets you into a more relaxed position. So that's be in terms of l will listen to the question. A lot of athletes, a lot of professionals. A lot of politicians see years. Don't listen to the question You need to be focused. You need to dial in and listen to what the reporter or journalist is saying because for a lot of the time they'll ask something very quickly. Then you didn't get it, and then you misquoted or your messages and lost. It's important then, to ask them to ask it again. So L is for listen. E is for eye contact. It's very important to dial in to make sure you making contact, eye contact with the reporter and not to be distracted or look all over the place. From that point of view, it just makes you look comfortable. That makes you look distracted and the viewer back home. Well, they're going. He's really not interested in what the reporter has to say, so this comes across as disrespectful. So I contact. Very important. Then N is for not so that is basically just acknowledging the question. You don't have to go crazy. Just a little nod that you dialed in you there that you understand that you are listening, you paying attention. It's very important, En is from not D is for Don't fidget. Don't be distracting. Try not to just your capital buttons or play with things that will make you come across as disinterested or distracting to the viewer or to the reporter. So in that moment, you want to try and keep your hands to your side on the table or class. But like I'm doing right now, just so that you feel more comfortable, more relaxed and ready for any questions that might come your way. So remember blend. If you remember anything from this, that's what you want to take away. B is what breathe l for Listen, E for eye contact in is for Nod and D is for Don't be distracted. 3. LESSON TWO - IN THE TV STUDIO: welcome to lessen two of a broadcasters guide to working with the media. I'm CIA stuporous see that television interviews are probably the most common media engagements, So let's start in the television studio. From the moment you arrive your ushered into the studio, there's a hive of activity this cameramen, that makeup artists, their sound technicians, this floor runners, this floor managers. It's it's very busy. Then you have the presenters who will be trying to talk to you. While the countdown happens, There's a makeup artist generally in your face and a sound technician trying to put a microphone to get you ready for the broadcast. If it's very, very daunting, go back to the blend technique. Breathe, listen, eye contact. Nod and don't be distracting. Sent to yourself. Take a nice deep breath from their When you sit down, imagine that the chance does not have a back. You almost lean slightly forward so your but goes against the back of the chair and you just lean forward. Don't be scared to use your hands when answering questions. If you are uncomfortable, clasped them. Put them on the surface or on your lap is very important to feel relaxed. The next thing they'll be a countdown, and it will be time for your interview. Focus on the person asking the questions. It's very important to focus on, just with voices coming from that will eliminate Aled. The other bright lights, the movement, the distractions and allow you to sell your message. So it's very important not to look at the camera, focus on where the question is coming from and answered correctly. Go back to the blend technique to find that sort of nice, Relax, relax, place and go from there. That is your best way to feeling comfortable, to be in confidence and being capable in a television studio. 4. LESSON THREE - OUTSIDE THE TV STUDIO - ON LOCATION: welcome to lessen three of a broadcasters guide to working with the media. I'm CST policy. In the previous lesson, we touched on television interviews in studio. Now this is when the television interviews happen at a venue at an event after a press conference, wherever it may be. But it's not in the conventional studio setting, so it's important to also once again go back to the blend technique. Remember that and be ready for what comes your way. So a lot of the time there's a lot of variables. It's it's sunlight. It's, you know, all sorts of things. It's a hustle and bustle of the media screaming around you. It might be a lot more relaxed, but it's important to remember how to stand, how to use your hands and where to look during these times. So let's start off. Generally, you'll have a position that is dictated to you by cameramen, and that's purely to avoid something growing out of your head or shoulders. But I think the best ways for me to demonstrate. So come with me, this guy never look in a standing interview. It's important to get your footing right, so a lot of people tend to plant their feet shoulder width apart and put away their weight on their feet. Then, during the interview, they tend to rock back on their heels or they sway a little bit. My advice. Separate your feet at a slight angle, your left in front of your right. Find dead weight, your center of gravity in the right place. That means that you less tempted to rock back onto your heels or sway, which is very distracting to the viewer. Then your hands Stay away from a defensive position. Don't cross your arms. Don't put it behind your back and don't sort of clutch. This area in a fig leaf position just is very distracting. I encourage you to try and use your hands. Even if its little subtle movements it will make you feel more relaxed, come across as more comfortable and confident. At the end of the day, you are selling the message by selling the messenger. Also, don't look at the camera workers on where the question is coming from. Take a breath, listen to it and answered. Focus on where the next question is coming for. That's the only way to go about it. When you're playing the camera, it just does not look right. So I carried you to focus on the person, asking you the question. Make sure you answer, and everything will be fine. So in summary, it's very important not to sway to get your hand position correct, not to fold your arms and to focus on where the question is coming from and to answer back directly from where it's coming. Don't look at the camera and just remember the blend technique. It will help you find that calm place so that you can handle even the most intense questions from the media. 5. LESSON FOUR - DRESSING FOR TV: thistles. Lesson four of a broadcasters guide to working with the media. Not dressing for television is very important. Stay away from stripes patterns and extremely bright colors. It just leads to distraction. At the end of the day, you need to get your message across, whatever that message. Maybe you don't want the viewer distracted by what you're wearing, so stick to the darker colors. Stick to a single color if you can. It really makes a big difference. And how you come across is also very important because you don't want the viewer going. What on earth are they wearing? You want them to be honed in on what you say. Another aspect. And it is very much a misconception amongst a lot of men who are on television. They don't want to use makeup. Makeup is there to make you look better, and it does no harm. My suggestion is getting compacts and powder and a brush from your local drug. Still, I asked them for something that works for your skin tone and something that just covers the teaser. So if you don't know what a T zone is and it's something have learned recently, it's this area here and across here want powder on the spot set on shiny just like that, and immediately, it makes you look a lot more comfortable. If you are are really uncomfortable with the idea of makeup, then I suggest some oil control blotting paper that you just dab over those shiny spots before you go camera end of the day. It's important to get your message across. I can't stress that enough if you look sweaty, if you look uncomfortable. If you have shiny bits, all of you, it takes away from what you are saying at the end of the day, your time is valuable and you don't get a lot of time on television often, so it's important to get it right to look your best and sell your message. 6. LESSON FIVE - VIRTUAL INTERVIEWS: thing is less than five of a broadcasters guide to working with the media. I hope you've enjoyed the journey so far and taken some valuable tips out off the lessons on how to deal with television interviews. We now moving into another space, and it does relate to television into use. In a way, technology these days means we can communicate in various ways on various platforms with anyone in the world. And often journalists will reach out to someone in another country to do. An interview via these online platforms is conferencing platforms, so what often will happen is on TV. You'll see that the interview happens, but it's very distracting. Either the person has the angle wrong to get up the nose chin sort of shots, or you get the glare from the light being in the wrong place, all there just looking in the wrong place, and it's very distracting. So I'd like to share a few tips that I find helpful when I'm doing these online interviews . Firstly, get your laptop position right. So take some magazines and books and just elevate. It makes the world of difference in terms of the angle that the camera at the top of your laptop has on your face and what the viewer or the journalist sees, remember also to focus directly on the camera at the top. Don't look anywhere else. Don't look at the bottom of your screen. Try not to focus on the picture of the person who's intervene. You look directly at the camera. It's also important to remember that you want the natural life on your face. So best scenario has at a window in front of you with that natural light onto your face. And then also make sure behind you that your bed is made or that your bookshelf is neat or that there is no one going to run in during the interview. It just takes away all the distractions and allows you to focus and come across as calm and as a professional and as someone who is very comfortable doing the interviews. Another thing is, if you don't have a Lector and you need to use your phone, remember when you use your phone, use it in landscape mode. Try and keep it steady in landscape mode. This just makes your face a lot more natural on camera If you go into portrait mode, it's questions your face. And there's these distracting lines either side of the interview. So remember horizontal like this in landscape mode, and that's the way to go about it. The natural light from the front and to look at the camera. If it's the camera on your phone or fits on the laptop diesel things that will help you. Sometimes it's not even for a TV into it, maybe for a job interview or to impress a client. Look your best. Look calm and collected and look like you have your stuff together. It makes the world of difference in selling your message and selling the message. 7. LESSON SIX - PRESS CONFERENCES: thistles. Lesson six and we're talking about press conferences For a lot of people, it's one of the most daunting media engagement's off them, or a room full of cameras, reporters and microphones A lot more than I have in front of me here. But look at it as an opportunity to get your message across the captive audience. An audience that includes TV, radio, print, digital social media It's an audience that is waiting for your message beforehand. Make sure you've prepared correctly. Get your message across the talking points and any potential questions that might come up. Be prepared for them. Remember, as you come in, scan the room. See who's there. Also give you an indication of what sort of questions you might get from certain reporters liaison officers there to guide the questions and to protect you. So wait for he or she to set the timings to get the questions, too. But before that even happens, sit comfortably. Don't mean back, because then they can't hear. You don't mean into the mic. There's no need. Mike does the work for you being slightly forward, but your arms in front of you if you want just to get nice and balanced. It prevents a lot of swaying head movement distractions and allows you to feel a lot more common when it comes to the Q and A on the way the questions are coming from and respond directly to them. If you're not happy with the question, get the reporter to ask the question again. It buys you a little bit of time, allows you to set yourself and answer correctly. Press conferences are there for you to get your message across, so it's important to come across looking your best, sounding your best and knowing that you've got your message right, so you want to be comfortable, capable and confident. 8. LESSON SEVEN - WHAT THE MEDIA WANTS : a big thank you for joining me on this journey on a broadcasters guide to working with the media. This is Lesson seven, and the media is a powerful instinct. We all see the media wherever we are. You can't help but not come into contact with the media in some shape of form. The media speaks to billions of people all over the world on various platforms in various forms. So after almost two decades in the media industry, it's important for me to try and share what journalists want. And at the end of the day, journalists want someone who's reliable, who knows what they're talking about and who is approachable. It's important to have a positive relationship with the media because those opportunities to sell your message are few and far between, especially if you have a bad relationship with the media. The more positive more opportunities there are for you to be the person giving the right message out into the public space, be it someone starting out on the career being a CEO, being a politician who ever you are. So it's important to know journalists want someone who gets to the point, so be as concise as possible. When you see a news bulletin here, a radio bulletin, often what happens is those sound bites are 20 to 30 seconds long, no longer than that. So you don't want a waffle because that leads to possibly being misquoted. Down line. Keep it short, sharp, and to the point the journalists want that. They want someone who gets to that point as soon as they possibly can. It also means that there is opportunity for you to put cuts the right message down the line . So in a nutshell, be reliable, be approachable and be prepared because at the end of the day, journalistic deadlines there under pressure, they're competing with other media houses to get this story out. It's up to you to get yours right every time you engage with 9. LESSON EIGHT - RADIO INTERVIEWS: television gets a lot of attention, and radio seems to be taken for granted that a lot of times. But you cannot ignore the power off radio. It's still reaches millions of people. And with online streaming and podcasts getting a lot of attention these days, it's important to get the fundamentals right because being on a podcast is just a Z, important as it is on a radio station, and they're growing exponentially. So I'm gonna take you into a studio environment and give you some of the basics on how to get through that media engagement. First of all, make sure you early. No one likes someone who's late, But that's not because it drags on the show anything like that. If you're rushing, you can't be composed. You can't get your message across and you feel flustered, so you miss your opportunity to engage with the right message to the audience. Important. Get a drink, some water. Then you'll be moved into studio by the producer. Get the headphones on as soon as possible. Get them uncomfortable. Make sure you're sitting nicely. Just lean slightly forward into the microphone. Make sure the microphone is a few inches away from your mouth. Not too far, I would say about 2 to 3 inches under your nose. So you're speaking directly into the microphone so the audience can hear you. Then you can also engage with the various members of the team. Greet the host when he ants, asking the first question, and just have a conversation, The beauty about radios that you can bring notes and four points you want to bring across. So that's the most important thing. End of the day. Also, be aware of the on air lights when that light is red, your life when it's not. Then you can speak. Obviously. Also, remember what your phone off put it on airplane mode. It just avoids distractions. Remember the blend technique. Breathe. Listen. The eye contact still applies here in the radio context. Not also. And then, of course, don't be distracted, so don't fidget. Don't bumper might don't play with headphones and just make sure that that level of headphone is right for you. You may not always be in studio for radio interview. You may be on a phone call or do it over an online platform, but a lot of the time it will be on the telephone. So it's important to make sure you're in a good network area. So you have good receptions so that the connection is good. The audience can Hugh the host, can here, And more importantly, you can hear the host and get your message across. So make sure that you can identify a nice quiet space 10 minutes before the interview and get ready for it when they phone you. That produces gonna phone you first. Then in the background you're going to hear the host of the show talking pre interview, introducing. Take note of what he's saying. Don't be scared to touch on something that he said there. And use that in your opening response. Greet the host and then focus in on what he's saying. So once again, that blend technique applies. Brief breathe, listen, eye contact. Not so much of the nod, but don't just be distracted by fidgeting or moving around. You want to be a still as possible and dialed in into the interview. It's very important to get your message across, and then, once the interviews done, thank him and then you'll go back to the producer But most importantly, time is valuable radio. In particular, you do not have a lot of time, so it's important to maybe have some notes in front of you to make sure the message you want to portray is in front of you and is made very clear during that radio interview. 10. CONCLUSION: e. I just wanted to say thank you for joining me on a broadcasters guide to working with the media. It's been my pleasure to share some insights with you, and I hope I've been able to equip you with some skills and tips so that you prepared for any future media engagements. One thing, though, I urge you to take away from this. It's the blend technique. Use it as a foundation for any future media engagements as it will prepare you and get you into a space where you ready to take on anything the media has to offer. Please practice. Record yourself on your mobile phone, speak to your friends and family, get them to interview. And once you've done the interview, ask them for feedback because they'll be able to then tell you where you sit in terms of how you've given your message across and use that as a foundation to grow. I'm really confident that you will do well, and I thank you for your time because at the end of the day, the more you practice, the more you engage with the media, the more you become comfortable, calm and capable with any media engagement. Thanks for your time, and I hope to hear from you soon. 11. COURSE RECAP: way have now reached the conclusion of a broadcasters guide to working with the media. I hope you've learned a few things that you will take into your next media engagement, some pointers, some tips that will equip you to be more capable, confident and comfortable when engaging with the media in any situation. I want to use this opportunity to thank you for joining me on this journey and to recap what we've touched on throughout the lessons. Remember, practice makes perfect. It's very important when you're preparing for your next media engagement to practice, to record yourself to do the speech in the mirror, to get a family member or friend interview and to remember the blend technique. It's very important to know about Breathe. Listen, I contacts not. And don't be distracting. So remember blend, and that will put you in good stead for your future media engagement. I just wanted to leave you with a quote from Malcolm X just to point out the significance of the media and how important it is in today society, Malcolm X said. The media is the most powerful entity on earth. They have the power to make the innocent guilty and make the guilty. That's power because they control the minds of the masses. Isn't that true? In this day and age, with all the media that is out there on various platforms, masses are controlled by what's so. It's important to know where your sources were. The origin of the story camps room on that the facts are indeed correct. Watch out for fake news. It's something that really causes a lot of harm. And hence why it's so important when you have your time with the media, your your valuable time to get that message Correct. Now let's touch on what we have covered. And at the end of this, I will go through the class assignment in what you need to do to get you through that next stage and to equip you as a template for anything that you might have coming up in terms of your media engagement. So let's start with TV interviews in the studio. It is a daunting place I've seen. They have presented live sport of worked on World Cup games, and it's busy it directors in your ear. There's bright lights, so I think the biggest thing is when you're a guest in the studio environment is just to make sure that you comfortable that you look your best, you've dressed according to TV Guide lines. There's nothing that's too distracting. You sit comfortably. You look at the person who's asking the questions and, of course, once again use the blend technique. So use your hands to express yourself. Sometimes this release it releases that sort of excitement or nervousness. Don't be scared to do that. And I think when it comes to something like an ear piece, that's something that you'll have to decide. It's it's quite daunting. It's quite intimidating because you hear what the director is saying, so that's up to you. Sometimes they might not even equip you with that. Andi, you won't hear what the director saying for a lot of people, they prefer that other people prefer to know exactly what's happening, what's coming up next and how long they have to speak. Remember, when it comes to TV, you only have a set amount of time, so get to the point. Make sure that you prepared a few notes that you know exactly what you're gonna say and have some fun be yourself. At the end of the day, you must be comfortable and sell your message, because that's very important when it comes to standing interviews, all interviews on location, for example. That's another situation altogether because there's a lot of variables. There's a lot of different things that can happen along the way, so they could be a distracting movement in the background or journalist pushes another Jenna start the way, and there's a media scrum, something like that. So be prepared for that. Once again, it's important not to grab the microphone. Let the microphone do the work for you and just know your surroundings. Know what the situation is, and you'll be just fine. The blend. Technique. Once again, I will come into play, and generally, if it's controlled, you know, then you'll feel a lot more relaxed. Watch that you shouldn't sway your feet positions in the right places we've touched on in previous lessons. You get all those things right, but once again, the broadcasters guide to working with the media worksheet is provided. It's a downloadable option for you. So used that. You know if if it's a PdF on your phone or on your on your tablet or on your laptop. Use it as a refresher. It's there to guide you through any media engagements now, in terms of them virtual interviews, you know, it has been a lot off need for Zoom Skype. Google meets teams on Microsoft. All these various things and covered 19 has Bean the catalyst to get these virtual platforms going. And it's also very important to get that right, because for a lot of people they have no idea how to do it. So it's positioning the phone or your laptop is very important. Remember what we've said about maybe putting some magazines or a book getting the eye level . You know, the natural light on your face, not behind you. It might even be for a job interview. And when it comes to something like that, you want to look your best. You want to sell yourself. You want to impress if it's a school presentation, whatever it may be, if it's done virtually. If you get those simple steps right, it will work for you in a good way. So use your head phones, look at the camera, don't look off screen and just be yourself be comfortable and you'll be just fine. Refer to our lesson if you're unsure on how we did it. Actually demonstrate various ways of using your phone in landscape mode instead of portrait mode as well as the lighting and with a laptop putting it on a raise surface said. It's more level. All things will make you look like a professional terms of radio. Well, that's another challenge, but it's an exciting one. It's one that comes with its its own approach in terms of there's no cameras while they might be streaming on YouTube or on Facebook or something like that. But just be aware of that so it doesn't hurt to dress nice. Also, remember what we said. Try and be 15 minutes early on and be ready. Have some notes and paper with a few things jotted down on that will certainly help you. And if it's on the phone and not in person, listen to just before they introduce you to what they're talking about. It might give you a nice Segway to join the conversation, and it comes across like you care about what they talking. So it's important to create that feeling that you actually want to be there on that your time spent with them. This time you've chosen to spend host and his team. Generally your responses. When it comes to radio, try and be as concise as you can, but there is a little bit more leeway as to what you can do. Press conferences. Well, that's something to get used to. The breathe technique comes in here. It's very important in the way you go about things. You know, if you're an athlete coming off the field, get away tall and just wipe yourself down this time. Have a shower, get dressed and feel a bit fresher, and more hand positions are important. We rest your arms, so make sure that you're that you comfortable for this one. You're leading sake forward and you answer from where the questions going. I think from then the most important thing to remember is it's just to breathe. I really do think when it comes to the blend technique, and I can't stress this enough breathe so important. It makes a huge difference and it takes the pressure off. But in a nutshell. If you're nervous practice, don't fixate on your mistakes. and ask for feedback. Don't be scared to ask for feedback for any media engagement that you have. You can only learn, and I wish you all the best, and I'm sure you'll do fantastically well. It's time now to take you through the cast assignment and what I'm expecting you to do, and this will help prepare you for your future media engagements. 12. CLASS ASSIGNMENT: So your project? Well, it stems from practicing, and I think it's very important to realize that the only way to improve is by practicing and practicing and and by speaking in public and doing these things that will help you to face the media engagement with confidence and capability and to come across as someone who is a complete professional. So I've given you this class projects. Follow the instructions. It's it is available as a download, so you have access to it and you'll see there's a place to write. So if you want a print on it printed out a big pardon, put on your tablet and riding it, that's that's up to you. But Section one is to identify the common mistakes. I mean, you've seen some people being interviewed and look all over the place, or they kind of grabbed the microphone and scream into the microphone, especially into being fans. And that's something. But what I would like you to do is to learn from these areas that people make on television , so tune into your local news station spent about 30 minutes. I think that's that. That's fair enough watching and observing, then answer the following questions. What was the interview about? Some? What did you notice about the person being interviewed? That was question one question to Did the person being interviewed do anything distracting ? If so, what was it? What could they have done to come across as more confidence and comfortable? Question three And the question for was the line of questioning fit. Now the reason I'm asking this is because sometimes journalists will ask you something, and it will come with an agenda, or it will be a loaded question and they're doing it particularly to expose you or to set you up. So be aware of these ones. That's why I would like you to see when someone is being asked a question of some politician or if it's someone from a business that's in trouble, whatever. Maybe, did they get their message across? How did they handle the situation? Just a few a few lines with your thoughts. And what does blend stand for in which aspect would you be more likely to use in your next media again? That's question five off Section one that wraps up section one section to imagine you're a well known celebrity actors, singers, sports person on influence on YouTube or whatever. It may be you being interviewed about a charitable foundation or that you that you started and then we'll go through the questions, of course, But what I would like to do is make sure that you can prepare, so write down a few notes in your preparation. Reinterview. The goal off the notes is to help you formulate a message. So next time you're in a press conference, you get public speaking a job interview, a class project. You've got a few nights down that your head is in the right space for this, so include your set Liberty name. But you know, in for your foundation on the notes provided and write down a few things there. So that's in a section two Section three. Use your phone or a camera to record yourself practicing, answering the interview questions. That's for your your foundation. Because you are a world famous person. Uh, watch the recording and take notes of where you can improve, where you can apply the blend techniques, so ask someone else to watch it on. They can give you the feedback. The second opinion is very useful. And what people remember from the interviews often guideline to see if you've sold your message six and full. Use your phone a camera to make another recording. Ask a friend or family member interview you using those questions that you've prepared. It's very important to used to camera on you speaking into it. A lot of people don't like the sound of the voice, but something that I encourage you to get used to your voice is not as bad as you think. It sounds. So you just keep practicing and then you some of the video sharing platform so that we can have a look we can way can really help you and improve and whatever you want to do, what message you want to get across and just a week more confident. YouTube, Twitter instagram. The ones I recommend is probably YouTube. It's easiest one, but I think those are meaningful spaces and putting it out there. It's not to be criticized to learn, and I must stress that I'm here to help you learn to be more confident and capable, and I'm sure by following these projects steps and getting through them, you would have learned to love Your confidence will be up. The's reach out is a happy thank you for watching I really, really appreciate it. And yeah, I'd like to see how you go. Please reach out If you anything that you want to ask me at sea. Sdpc on Twitter on I'll be happy to help and share my insights on a broadcasters guide to working with the media.